I believe Vincent Tan

I also heard Julian Jenkins is behind the kit delay, hmmm,

What I've been hearing is that JJ was fiddling things to do with the new kit and that Tan had hand to get involved last minute to make sure it gets done. Something about arranging a deal for Ely rangers which would also help jj out. I'm also hearing he was behind the two tone red last year

Tan is slowly getting rid of the conniving snakes at the club

all ifs and buts about tans involvement again very rarely get conclusive proof he's involved? or important bits conveniently missed out

I heard this stuff about jj last week, then we get this and jj is one of annis and carl's moles in the club. Just trying to cover his back now he's gone and of course guide ammunition to the tan haters

all this is {quote} i believe ect ect what happened to pure facts?

You've got a point. I don't know if it's true by its what I've been told and it certainly puts another perspective on this if it is

Yet everyone seems to like to conveniently ignore that again gigs is not Tan's doing

So you slate Annis for putting out what he hears and accuse him of attempting to influence the fan base... and then expect everyone to listen you you when you do exactly the same.

Hey troll

all ifs and buts about tans involvement again very rarely get conclusive proof he's involved? or important bits conveniently missed out

I heard this stuff about jj last week, then we get this and jj is one of annis and carl's moles in the club. Just trying to cover his back now he's gone and of course guide ammunition to the tan haters

all this is {quote} i believe ect ect what happened to pure facts?

You've got a point. I don't know if it's true by its what I've been told and it certainly puts another perspective on this if it is

as they say always two sides to a story?

all ifs and buts about tans involvement again very rarely get conclusive proof he's involved? or important bits conveniently missed out

I heard this stuff about jj last week, then we get this and jj is one of annis and carl's moles in the club. Just trying to cover his back now he's gone and of course guide ammunition to the tan haters

all this is {quote} i believe ect ect what happened to pure facts?

You've got a point. I don't know if it's true by its what I've been told and it certainly puts another perspective on this if it is

as they say always two sides to a story?

Yep. Just hope people bear that in mind when reading the stories on here which are reported as 'fact'

i believe ect ect what happened to pure facts?

Twiter

Mr Tan
Just return us to blue u muppet and we'll wear the shirt, manufactured by nike, macron, errea, puma, tan sport/dragon sport who gives a f**k, anyone.
Just do the right thing and reunite a proud club back together.
Give it a go why not, u might be pleasantly surprised and suddenly receive that adulation and hero worship u so crave.

I mean Vince, what purpose in life do you have to piss us off anymore than you already have?

YAP YAP YAP

Interesting theory. The guy in charge of the shirts mess up, Tan step in and clean up. The guy with the shirt is leaving the club and being accused of being a mole. The OP knows this through his mole, but push the story on the shirt anyway, putting bad publicity onto the club and Tan. That raise the question on how often this have happened and why. It answer why post like this is being deleted, but not why so many fall for it and why nothing is being done. In theory. Hmmm

Did hear originally it was gonna be made by Tan sports. But heard more recently its gonna be made by Macron.
Dont know 100% but just thats the rumours iv heard

Did hear originally it was gonna be made by Tan sports. But heard more recently its gonna be made by Macron.
Dont know 100% but just thats the rumours iv heard

I heard originally it was going to be made by Tan/Sports/Dragon, then yes Macron stepped in after Tan changed his mind, then I am led to believe Tan changed his mind again, I am not 100% sure on the last bit though?

As to someone making up stories regarding JJ, he never ever had anything to do with the kit and has left Cardiff City very amicable of his own free will for a better job, he gave the club 2 months notice


I am sadly 100% sure on this, its that despicable Red

When I had a stadium tour of the CCS last season the guy who showed me around from the 'house of sport' said the following:

'Next seasons kit is being made by Tan's own company so that he gets 100% of the income from shirt sales rather than giving the large slice of cash to a third party supplier.

I then asked, whats Tan's shirt manfacturing company called?

He said, 'I heard its Tan Sport or Dragon Sports'


The guy didn't exactly seem a fountain of CCFC knowledge during the tour, but this bit of what he said fits with Annis' original post on this thread.

Gavin, We heard virtually exactly the same

Whatever the real reason behind the delay in announcing next seasons playing strip one thing is certain and that is that horrible "Two Tone" Red kit had already been announced for last season at this stage. I believe it was late May or early June last season so there is a delay and the question is, Why?

I just hope that JJ has his side of the story straight because having now left the club he will become an easy target for VT and his yes men when they are looking for someone to blame. As Commercial Director surely sorting this out fell under the remit of JJ, maybe not signing off design, but the "Commercial" negotiation of supply contracts must have been part of JJ role.

In the last couple of seasons the club has held back shirts going on sale and have arranged an "Evening" stadium event before the last pre season friendly before the shirts have gone on sale. Are the club intending to do the same this season? because if they are then the only "Delay" is showing a photograph of the new playing strip.

With the stadium expansion due for completion mid-late July it would appear that the club has a ready made reason to have another "Special Evening" event to mark both the opening of the new stand and the new kit launch.

If that is the case then all of this is a none story but with the Trust having done such a good job on the design on a "Blue" shirt and the launch planned prior to the start of the season the club may well be in for a shock when the "Red" shirts go on sale.

It's certainly going to be interesting to watch how this all develops and if it does go the wrong way for the club expect announcements from the club giving JJ pelters.

all ifs and buts about tans involvement again very rarely get conclusive proof he's involved? or important bits conveniently missed out

I heard this stuff about jj last week, then we get this and jj is one of annis and carl's moles in the club. Just trying to cover his back now he's gone and of course guide ammunition to the tan haters

all this is {quote} i believe ect ect what happened to pure facts?

You've got a point. I don't know if it's true by its what I've been told and it certainly puts another perspective on this if it is

as they say always two sides to a story?

Guide ammunition to the Tan hater?

Nathanial don't you think Tan does that himself:

Supporters come customers.
Ole is better than Malky.....that is why we are back in the Championship.
Debt to Equity.....well some of it wil be converted.
There will be a red revolution.......when will this happen.

all ifs and buts about tans involvement again very rarely get conclusive proof he's involved? or important bits conveniently missed out

I heard this stuff about jj last week, then we get this and jj is one of annis and carl's moles in the club. Just trying to cover his back now he's gone and of course guide ammunition to the tan haters

all this is {quote} i believe ect ect what happened to pure facts?

You've got a point. I don't know if it's true by its what I've been told and it certainly puts another perspective on this if it is

as they say always two sides to a story?

Guide ammunition to the Tan hater?

Nathanial don't you think Tan does that himself:

Supporters come customers.
Ole is better than Malky.....that is why we are back in the Championship.
Debt to Equity.....well some of it wil be converted.
There will be a red revolution.......when will this happen.

Ian, I honestly cant still get my head around it that Tan still has his lovers/followers after all he has done to our club, ripped it apart,destroyed the heart of it,divided it that we feel no pride and guess what were back in the Championship,£150 mill in debt,10,000 less fans next season(that speaks volumes) and No identity.



" WE ARE CARDIFF CITY WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

all ifs and buts about tans involvement again very rarely get conclusive proof he's involved? or important bits conveniently missed out

I heard this stuff about jj last week, then we get this and jj is one of annis and carl's moles in the club. Just trying to cover his back now he's gone and of course guide ammunition to the tan haters

all this is {quote} i believe ect ect what happened to pure facts?

You've got a point. I don't know if it's true by its what I've been told and it certainly puts another perspective on this if it is

as they say always two sides to a story?

Guide ammunition to the Tan hater?

Nathanial don't you think Tan does that himself:

Supporters come customers.
Ole is better than Malky.....that is why we are back in the Championship.
Debt to Equity.....well some of it wil be converted.
There will be a red revolution.......when will this happen.

Ian, I honestly cant still get my head around it that Tan still has his lovers/followers after all he has done to our club, ripped it apart,destroyed the heart of it,divided it that we feel no pride and guess what were back in the Championship,£150 mill in debt,10,000 less fans next season(that speaks volumes) and No identity.


" WE ARE CARDIFF CITY WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

I think these people know that Tan is responsible for the mess this club is in. They are just not big enough to come out and admit it as they have been licking this guys backside since we got to the premier.

Mr Tan
Just return us to blue u muppet and we'll wear the shirt, manufactured by nike, macron, errea, puma, tan sport/dragon sport who gives a f**k, anyone.
Just do the right thing and reunite a proud club back together.
Give it a go why not, u might be pleasantly surprised and suddenly receive that adulation and hero worship u so crave.

I mean Vince, what purpose in life do you have to piss us off anymore than you already have?

The fans are dividing the fans not tan although they are hanging out on something that Tan had done. If the colour goes back Blue they'll only find something else to beat him with, like ridsdale

The fans are dividing the fans not tan

Quite the contrary Ian

Quite the contrary Ian

Really, you don't think Tan is responsible for the change of colour then that is the cause for the divide or bad feeling between the club and its fans?

Quite the contrary Ian

Really, you don't think Tan is responsible for the change of colour then that is the cause for the divide or bad feeling between the club and its fans?

There's always been a divide.

Whether with Sam's Mates and people against him.
With and against the Riddler.
With and against Dave Jones.
With and against the Malaysians pre rebrand.

Anyone expecting the fanbase to magically recover whenever we return to blue is sadly deluded in my eyes.

It'll probably end up in arguments between people who pushed hard for blue criticising people who didn't do enough or something.

Quite the contrary Ian

Really, you don't think Tan is responsible for the change of colour then that is the cause for the divide or bad feeling between the club and its fans?

spot on aramore!

There's always been a divide.

Whether with Sam's Mates and people against him.
With and against the Riddler.
With and against Dave Jones.
With and against the Malaysians pre rebrand.

Anyone expecting the fanbase to magically recover whenever we return to blue is sadly deluded in my eyes.

It'll probably end up in arguments between people who pushed hard for blue criticising people who didn't do enough or something.

Quite the contrary Ian

Really, you don't think Tan is responsible for the change of colour then that is the cause for the divide or bad feeling between the club and its fans?

There's always been a divide.

Whether with Sam's Mates and people against him.
With and against the Riddler.
With and against Dave Jones.
With and against the Malaysians pre rebrand.

Anyone expecting the fanbase to magically recover whenever we return to blue is sadly deluded in my eyes.

It'll probably end up in arguments between people who pushed hard for blue criticising people who didn't do enough or something.

Spot on aramore! People will just find something else to beat tan with.

Besides, tan changed the colour of the shirt. He didn't tell one fan to call another a sell out, he didn't tell them to abuse each other or anything of the like. We've done that ourselves

Quite the contrary Ian

Really, you don't think Tan is responsible for the change of colour then that is the cause for the divide or bad feeling between the club and its fans?

There's always been a divide.

Whether with Sam's Mates and people against him.
With and against the Riddler.
With and against Dave Jones.
With and against the Malaysians pre rebrand.

Anyone expecting the fanbase to magically recover whenever we return to blue is sadly deluded in my eyes.

It'll probably end up in arguments between people who pushed hard for blue criticising people who didn't do enough or something.

Spot on aramore! People will just find something else to beat tan with.

Besides, tan changed the colour of the shirt. He didn't tell one fan to call another a sell out, he didn't tell them to abuse each other or anything of the like. We've done that ourselves

Of course there has always been a divide but to what extent? Compared to this the Dave Jones/Ridsdale era was minut.

What Tan has done has made us a total laughing stock. Even under Ridsdale we never got this. We have been ridiculed more than ever and rightly so.

Fans give us grief, if it weren't the rebrand it would be something else. I don't think I've not seen anyone anywhere describe us in ways akin to being a laughing stock

e Have to take responsibility for the way we behave. Tan doesn't put thoughts it or heads, words in our mouths or make as behave aggressively towards other fans. We do that all by ourselves.

Whatever the real reason behind the delay in announcing next seasons playing strip one thing is certain and that is that horrible "Two Tone" Red kit had already been announced for last season at this stage. I believe it was late May or early June last season so there is a delay and the question is, Why?

I just hope that JJ has his side of the story straight because having now left the club he will become an easy target for VT and his yes men when they are looking for someone to blame. As Commercial Director surely sorting this out fell under the remit of JJ, maybe not signing off design, but the "Commercial" negotiation of supply contracts must have been part of JJ role.

In the last couple of seasons the club has held back shirts going on sale and have arranged an "Evening" stadium event before the last pre season friendly before the shirts have gone on sale. Are the club intending to do the same this season? because if they are then the only "Delay" is showing a photograph of the new playing strip.

With the stadium expansion due for completion mid-late July it would appear that the club has a ready made reason to have another "Special Evening" event to mark both the opening of the new stand and the new kit launch.

If that is the case then all of this is a none story but with the Trust having done such a good job on the design on a "Blue" shirt and the launch planned prior to the start of the season the club may well be in for a shock when the "Red" shirts go on sale.

It's certainly going to be interesting to watch how this all develops and if it does go the wrong way for the club expect announcements from the club giving JJ pelters.

regardless of any delay the kit would have had to be submitted to the football league before the end of may so the design must be out there somewhere