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Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:02 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Would love to know what he done to deserve such disgusting treatment from Milky


Would love to know why Ole immediately bombed him out on loan too.


Very good question :thumbright:


he put a bunch a players out on loan so i don't see why this is being singled out we had two match fit right backs and ole gave him a chance to impress him out on loan which he did so it's more than likely ole will give him chance in pre season

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:02 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Would love to know what he done to deserve such disgusting treatment from Milky


Would love to know why Ole immediately bombed him out on loan too.


Very good question :thumbright:


No not a good question, common sense should tell us all as to why he went out on loan

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:06 pm

Arrow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Would love to know what he done to deserve such disgusting treatment from Milky


Would love to know why Ole immediately bombed him out on loan too.


Because he obviously wasn't match fit after spending 5months+ without any first team football because Malky decided never to use him. Never going to be fit enough for first team Prem action is he? Come on mun.


Still fit enough to make an instant impact for Sheffield United, be one of their star players, help them get to a cup semi final and get all their fans to talk about growing their own beards in honour of him.


Smell the coffee mate, he wasn't fit enough for the prem because he fell out with Malky and didn't get any game time, not that hard to take on board. Ole put him out on loan to give him game time :ayatollah:


But the instant impact Brayford made for Sheffield United showed he was match fit and didn't need any game time at all. If you watched him play for them and watched the reactions of what their fans thought, you will have to be honest and admit that's a fact to rubbish your assumption I'm afraid.

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:10 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Arrow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Would love to know what he done to deserve such disgusting treatment from Milky


Would love to know why Ole immediately bombed him out on loan too.


Because he obviously wasn't match fit after spending 5months+ without any first team football because Malky decided never to use him. Never going to be fit enough for first team Prem action is he? Come on mun.


Still fit enough to make an instant impact for Sheffield United, be one of their star players, help them get to a cup semi final and get all their fans to talk about growing their own beards in honour of him.


Smell the coffee mate, he wasn't fit enough for the prem because he fell out with Malky and didn't get any game time, not that hard to take on board. Ole put him out on loan to give him game time :ayatollah:


But the instant impact Brayford made for Sheffield United showed he was match fit and didn't need any game time at all. If you watched him play for them and watched the reactions of what their fans thought, you will have to be honest and admit that's a fact to rubbish your assumption I'm afraid.


LEAGUE 1 :thumbup: big difference so that has rubbished yours

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:13 pm

Arrow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Arrow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Would love to know what he done to deserve such disgusting treatment from Milky


Would love to know why Ole immediately bombed him out on loan too.


Because he obviously wasn't match fit after spending 5months+ without any first team football because Malky decided never to use him. Never going to be fit enough for first team Prem action is he? Come on mun.


Still fit enough to make an instant impact for Sheffield United, be one of their star players, help them get to a cup semi final and get all their fans to talk about growing their own beards in honour of him.


Smell the coffee mate, he wasn't fit enough for the prem because he fell out with Malky and didn't get any game time, not that hard to take on board. Ole put him out on loan to give him game time :ayatollah:


But the instant impact Brayford made for Sheffield United showed he was match fit and didn't need any game time at all. If you watched him play for them and watched the reactions of what their fans thought, you will have to be honest and admit that's a fact to rubbish your assumption I'm afraid.


LEAGUE 1 :thumbup: big difference so that has rubbished yours


Match fitness is match fitness, whatever the standard. Brayford's second game for them was against Premiership Fulham wasn't it not? Brayford had a stormer relentless running up and down the right, showing he was definitely match fit.

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:14 pm

Whopper with cheese & fries and extra large milkshake is off again :lol:

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:16 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Match fitness is match fitness, whatever the standard. Brayford's second game for them was against Premiership Fulham wasn't it not? Brayford had a stormer relentless running up and down the right, showing he was definitely match fit.


Premier League Fulham my arse. They had their reserve side out. All youngsters.

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:20 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Arrow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Arrow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Would love to know what he done to deserve such disgusting treatment from Milky


Would love to know why Ole immediately bombed him out on loan too.


Because he obviously wasn't match fit after spending 5months+ without any first team football because Malky decided never to use him. Never going to be fit enough for first team Prem action is he? Come on mun.


Still fit enough to make an instant impact for Sheffield United, be one of their star players, help them get to a cup semi final and get all their fans to talk about growing their own beards in honour of him.


Smell the coffee mate, he wasn't fit enough for the prem because he fell out with Malky and didn't get any game time, not that hard to take on board. Ole put him out on loan to give him game time :ayatollah:


But the instant impact Brayford made for Sheffield United showed he was match fit and didn't need any game time at all. If you watched him play for them and watched the reactions of what their fans thought, you will have to be honest and admit that's a fact to rubbish your assumption I'm afraid.


LEAGUE 1 :thumbup: big difference so that has rubbished yours


Match fitness is match fitness, whatever the standard. Brayford's second game for them was against Premiership Fulham wasn't it not? Brayford had a stormer relentless running up and down the right, showing he was definitely match fit.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: comedy gold

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:26 pm

Super Kev wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Match fitness is match fitness, whatever the standard. Brayford's second game for them was against Premiership Fulham wasn't it not? Brayford had a stormer relentless running up and down the right, showing he was definitely match fit.


Premier League Fulham my ar se. They had their reserve side out. All youngsters.


Fulham
13 Stockdale
46 Passley
35 Amorebieta Booked
28 Parker (Sidwell - 69' Booked )
05 Hangeland
33 Burn
08 Kasami
43 Tankovic
20 Rodallega (Dejagah - 59' )
32 Dempsey
11 Kacaniklic (Duff - 59' )

Substitutes
01 Stekelenburg
07 Sidwell
14 Karagounis
16 Duff
24 Dejagah
30 David
37 Christensen

That squad doesn't look all youngsters to me. That's totally irrelevant anyway. The fact is Brayford played the full 120 plus minutes that game on February 4th, had a blinder and was match fit.

So now I have proven he was match fit and could have offered us something, why was he not played by Malky and immediately loaned out by Ole?

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:30 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:So now I have proven he was match fit and could have offered us something, why was he not played by Malky and immediately loaned out by Ole?


Jesus Christ. Literally like talking to a brick wall.

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:36 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Match fitness is match fitness, whatever the standard. Brayford's second game for them was against Premiership Fulham wasn't it not? Brayford had a stormer relentless running up and down the right, showing he was definitely match fit.


Premier League Fulham my ar se. They had their reserve side out. All youngsters.


Fulham
13 Stockdale
46 Passley
35 Amorebieta Booked
28 Parker (Sidwell - 69' Booked )
05 Hangeland
33 Burn
08 Kasami
43 Tankovic
20 Rodallega (Dejagah - 59' )
32 Dempsey
11 Kacaniklic (Duff - 59' )

Substitutes
01 Stekelenburg
07 Sidwell
14 Karagounis
16 Duff
24 Dejagah
30 David
37 Christensen

That squad doesn't look all youngsters to me. That's totally irrelevant anyway. The fact is Brayford played the full 120 plus minutes that game on February 4th, had a blinder and was match fit.

So now I have proven he was match fit and could have offered us something, why was he not played by Malky and immediately loaned out by Ole?



Not match fit for the prem the pace of the two leagues are not the same, he would of been on his arse in the prem can't you see that :roll:

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:46 pm

Arrow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Match fitness is match fitness, whatever the standard. Brayford's second game for them was against Premiership Fulham wasn't it not? Brayford had a stormer relentless running up and down the right, showing he was definitely match fit.


Premier League Fulham my ar se. They had their reserve side out. All youngsters.


Fulham
13 Stockdale
46 Passley
35 Amorebieta Booked
28 Parker (Sidwell - 69' Booked )
05 Hangeland
33 Burn
08 Kasami
43 Tankovic
20 Rodallega (Dejagah - 59' )
32 Dempsey
11 Kacaniklic (Duff - 59' )

Substitutes
01 Stekelenburg
07 Sidwell
14 Karagounis
16 Duff
24 Dejagah
30 David
37 Christensen

That squad doesn't look all youngsters to me. That's totally irrelevant anyway. The fact is Brayford played the full 120 plus minutes that game on February 4th, had a blinder and was match fit.

So now I have proven he was match fit and could have offered us something, why was he not played by Malky and immediately loaned out by Ole?



Not match fit for the prem the pace of the two leagues are not the same, he would of been on his ar se in the prem can't you see that :roll:


There is a difference between a player being too slow for the Premiership (Hudson for example) to a player not being match fit at all. Also, there are quicker players who can cover more ground in the lower leagues, but they play at that level because they have less quality on the ball. Willie Boland would get a higher score in a bleep test to Tugay (the ex Blackburn midfielder) for example. Let's just leave it there. :lol:

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:49 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Arrow wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Match fitness is match fitness, whatever the standard. Brayford's second game for them was against Premiership Fulham wasn't it not? Brayford had a stormer relentless running up and down the right, showing he was definitely match fit.


Premier League Fulham my ar se. They had their reserve side out. All youngsters.


Fulham
13 Stockdale
46 Passley
35 Amorebieta Booked
28 Parker (Sidwell - 69' Booked )
05 Hangeland
33 Burn
08 Kasami
43 Tankovic
20 Rodallega (Dejagah - 59' )
32 Dempsey
11 Kacaniklic (Duff - 59' )

Substitutes
01 Stekelenburg
07 Sidwell
14 Karagounis
16 Duff
24 Dejagah
30 David
37 Christensen

That squad doesn't look all youngsters to me. That's totally irrelevant anyway. The fact is Brayford played the full 120 plus minutes that game on February 4th, had a blinder and was match fit.

So now I have proven he was match fit and could have offered us something, why was he not played by Malky and immediately loaned out by Ole?



Not match fit for the prem the pace of the two leagues are not the same, he would of been on his ar se in the prem can't you see that :roll:


There is a difference between a player being too slow for the Premiership (Hudson for example) to a player not being match fit at all. Also, there are quicker players who can cover more ground in the lower leagues, but they play at that level because they have less quality on the ball. Willie Boland would get a higher score in a bleep test to Tugay (the ex Blackburn midfielder) for example. Let's just leave it there. :lol:



I will now you have asked to :thumbup:

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:47 pm

Bring him in and give him a chance.

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:56 pm

But Fulham are a championship side that we're hiding in the premiership at the time.


Still want Brayford here though :bluescarf:

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:16 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
math_robz878 wrote:100% yes ... He'd compete well with Super Kev, Fabio and Declan John can compete on the left, KTC is good for his versatility and can cover injuries anywhere in defence. Be best if we moved Connolly on then.

Our defence could be...

Left Back - Fabio/John
Centre Back - Hudson/Turner/Cala
Right Back - McNaughton/Brayford

:ayatollah:


I don't understand why lots of people want Connolly offloaded. Connolly was one of our best players in the Championship and his versatility is vital. He's also an experienced, solid defender who has been there and done it with ourselves, QPR and Reading. Connolly knows the division inside out and knows how to succeed in the Championship. He is also the type of character you need in a club wanting to get promoted out of the Championship. I'm not bothered one bit if he isn't as able to go on overlapping runs and put crosses over. To keep clean sheets and get wins, your full backs need to be defensively solid and at Championship level, you'll struggle to find a battle hardened centre back/right back as defensively solid as Connolly.

Hallelujah :notworthy: :ayatollah: :thumbup:

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:41 pm

Gonzo wrote:He was never given a chance. He should certainly be no1 full back for next season.

Whilst we're talking about defenders and chances, wtf happened to Maximiliano Amondarain?

Yet another quality Milky signing.

Amondarain was on loan at an Argentinian club (I think). He's a young player who will take a while to break through.

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:11 am

Brayford should be given a second chance.

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:26 am

Valley Lad wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
math_robz878 wrote:100% yes ... He'd compete well with Super Kev, Fabio and Declan John can compete on the left, KTC is good for his versatility and can cover injuries anywhere in defence. Be best if we moved Connolly on then.

Our defence could be...

Left Back - Fabio/John
Centre Back - Hudson/Turner/Cala
Right Back - McNaughton/Brayford

:ayatollah:


I don't understand why lots of people want Connolly offloaded. Connolly was one of our best players in the Championship and his versatility is vital. He's also an experienced, solid defender who has been there and done it with ourselves, QPR and Reading. Connolly knows the division inside out and knows how to succeed in the Championship. He is also the type of character you need in a club wanting to get promoted out of the Championship. I'm not bothered one bit if he isn't as able to go on overlapping runs and put crosses over. To keep clean sheets and get wins, your full backs need to be defensively solid and at Championship level, you'll struggle to find a battle hardened centre back/right back as defensively solid as Connolly.

Hallelujah :notworthy: :ayatollah: :thumbup:


agreed - ideal for the Championship, and scored a few goals too with his height.

No idea about Brayford - my mate is a Derby County man, really rated him in a season when they weren't as good as the last. Seems a shame we can't get any benefit from him - something behind the scenes no doubt.

As for OGS sending him on loan, that is obvious really.

Re: Should City give him another chance and keep him?

Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:25 pm

Cardiff City's forgotten man John Brayford looking for a second chance for the Bluebirds in the Championship

Mention the name John Brayford to your average Cardiff City supporter and watch the look of confusion cloud their face.

Wasn’t this the man drafted in to sparkle at right-back as the Bluebirds entered the turbulent waters of the Premier League? The man whose credentials went before him? The man described as ‘the best full-back in the Championship’ by none other than former Bluebirds boss Malky Mackay himself.

It was the Scot who brought Brayford to the Welsh capital last summer for a price tag of £1.5m from Derby and at the time of the deal Mackay was effusive in his praise of his new acquisition.

“I am a long-time admirer of John’s and I’ve watched his career closely,” gushed Mackay

“He has consistently been selected in teams of the year and, for me, he was the best right-back in Championship football last season. He is extremely attack-minded and very athletic. He is somebody who desperately wants to kick on and play at the highest level. His attitude is spot-on and will add to the squad.