" I have been told totally different regarding Vincent Tan"

Its exactly the same. He is the clubs debts.

Not if he sells the club and those debts are included in the asking price. If he uses the parachute money to pay off part of the debt then potential buyers will have to pay less. If he syphons it off then any potential buyer is going to have to pay more.

No they wont. The less debt the club is in the more valuable it is. And the less debt the club is in means the more money Tan is getting to be getting as he is the debt.

There is no question he will be keeping the parachute payment, no brainer.

If tan is taking all the money who will be paying the bills?

The new owner.

This season's bills. Did you not say he will be taking the transfer money from sales of Caulker etc and the parachute money.

I did. He will probably cover any shortfall and tack it on to the cost of the shares.

Wishfull thinking this thread ,be careful what you wish for tho ,tan buggers off next season ,then years of court cases again and most of the jonny came lately crew buggering off to surport the likes of Liverpool with the club left in ruins like pompy

Annis is right about Tan leaving regardless if we go up or stay down. From what i am told the reason for this is him getting tired of all the lies and hypocrisy surrounding the club, and being ridiculed in public by it. It has nothing to do with Roath Magic theory about money, which is the deal he made with Annis. «Post anti Tan and you got a free reign». He can well turn this around and was planning to. In fact the club has been cleaning up since Dalman came in, and what they have found was shocking. Highly trusted members of the club playing double agendas and leaking info to forums (AAMB) and newspapers (Mail).
The reason Simon Lim is still there is be course he was totally manipulated as the newbie he was. These are the people who persuaded Tan to invest in the first place, was fully behind him and even drove on the rebrand and helped getting bills through the roof. People who now drive blue campaigns was well aware and supported «scarf gate» for instance, but spoke double standards in public. The fact is that Annis is right, and he will leave regardless. If he leaves promoted, City could be well of. If not, it might take some time to recover, if at all. The collaboration in this thread will be obvious and you may believe what you want. But the «inside» sources leaking info has left, and most written on here will be purely speculation.

Absolute rubbish. You have a vivid imagination

It has everything to do with money. Always has done.

Absolute rubbish. You have a vivid imagination

It has everything to do with money. Always has done.

It might be, but its what im told. Parts of it anyway. If its true it will be taken down, if its not it will stay on.

yes tan takes parachute payments strips any other assets us left with fck all except certain administration! guess smart arse Will have the answer to this dilemma? because can't asset strip and continue with same setup, money doesn't grow on trees in real world !

yes tan takes parachute payments strips any other assets us left with fck all except certain administration! guess smart arse Will have the answer to this dilemma? because can't asset strip and continue with same setup, money doesn't grow on trees in real world !

All you have to do is ask me nicely if your understanding of the situation is correct you know Al.

And no its not.

administration doesnt even come into it, he is the creditior. Tan will obviously be paying your bills and will tack it on to the price of his shares or indeed keep it on as long term loan notes.

Something sticks out like a sore thumb. OP
Posts negative post and the jacks over it like a rash. Shame really the post is even based on hearsay.
Didn't Tan speak last week in Kuala lumpa saying that he's with the club for the long haul and believes he has a manager in place to, in
his words " hopefully get back to the premier next year". Even if his intention is/was to leave do you seriously consider he will.while his shares are virtually devalued by 50%. These topics are really setting the trend for next season on a highly disruptive note. They neither help or solve anything just undermine our club. But there that doesn't matter it's more important Fu##ing Tan up hurting the club doesn't matter. Who needs the Jacks to call us up in holes when we can do it ourselves.

Something sticks out like a sore thumb. OP
Posts negative post and the jacks over it like a rash. Shame really the post is even based on hearsay.
Didn't Tan speak last week in Kuala lumpa saying that he's with the club for the long haul and believes he has a manager in place to, in
his words " hopefully get back to the premier next year". Even if his intention is/was to leave do you seriously consider he will.while his shares are virtually devalued by 50%. These topics are really setting the trend for next season on a highly disruptive note. They neither help or solve anything just undermine our club. But there that doesn't matter it's more important Fu##ing Tan up hurting the club doesn't matter. Who needs the Jacks to call us up in holes when we can do it ourselves.

superb post! nail, head, hit!

it brings into question where the true disruption at the club really lay

This is where tan leaving isn't going to look so great because he's going to be taking the family silver with him.

Players are already leaving on the cheap and where do you think that money is gong?

It was Tans money that bought them in first place .

Cant blame tan for wanting out , he is not stupid and will sell club if money is right , this isnt really news as such but if true he will go if we stay down then i would worry as everything will be sold off .

It's his prerogative to recoup as much of his investment as possible but the problem is any money that goes into tans pocket is money that should be reinvested back into the club. If he sticks around he could do something similar to what the owners of Birmingham City have done. Keep the club, squeeze funds, sell assets, run the club on a drastically smaller budget.

I'm not convinced a new owner is the answer either. You couldn't find anyone else last time with a smaller debt and everyone you bring a new owner in it seems to get worse.

" I have been told totally different regarding Vincent Tan "

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136474

I have been told from people close to Tan and others who have interviewed Tan the following and we can only wait and see if its true.

That Tan would sell tomorrow if he could get his £150-£160mill back, but that will prob never ever happen.

So its expected that this will be Tans last season even if promoted or even if we fail, Tan will bail out.
Tan will take a loss either way, of course if promoted,no where near the loss.
Of course tan has to find a buyer first and thats what I have heard he has been trying to do.

Ok people will now say Tan is here for the future, well lets see what happens by next Summer 2015, but I honestly believe Tan will bail out if a buyer can be found.

is this by a certain person who's now just left Cardiff City?

Way out Natman as usual.

Just because Julian has left, I still have 5 good contacts in the club and in fact 4 of them have all told me the same

I have been told that the one person that wants Vincent Tan out more than anyone else is Vincent Tan himself.

Tan does not enjoy the experience of coming to the club anymore, which is understandable no matter what any of our thoughts are of him, but the fact is he doesn't like it here anymore.

He hates coming to the games.

I have been told exactly the same as what Annis said in the op that Tan wants to leave at the end of the season no matter what.

And you can take it for certain, if Tan was offered anywhere near the amount he has put in or is owed he would sell immediately.

I have been told that the one person that wants Vincent Tan out more than anyone else is Vincent Tan himself.

Tan does not enjoy the experience of coming to the club anymore, which is understandable no matter what any of our thoughts are of him, but the fact is he doesn't like it here anymore.

He hates coming to the games.

I have been told exactly the same as what Annis said in the op that Tan wants to leave at the end of the season no matter what.

And you can take it for certain, if Tan was offered anywhere near the amount he has put in or is owed he would sell immediately.

We shall see if your first statement is correct by how many games he turns up for in the coming season, if he hates it as much as you say, then we wont see anything of him at all . Your second point will never be proved either way, as no one will pay anything like what he is owed whilst we are still in this division.

I have been told that the one person that wants Vincent Tan out more than anyone else is Vincent Tan himself.

Tan does not enjoy the experience of coming to the club anymore, which is understandable no matter what any of our thoughts are of him, but the fact is he doesn't like it here anymore.

He hates coming to the games.

I have been told exactly the same as what Annis said in the op that Tan wants to leave at the end of the season no matter what.

And you can take it for certain, if Tan was offered anywhere near the amount he has put in or is owed he would sell immediately.

We shall see if your first statement is correct by how many games he turns up for in the coming season, if he hates it as much as you say, then we wont see anything of him at all . Your second point will never be proved either way, as no one will pay anything like what he is owed whilst we are still in this division.

He has cut the amount of the games he attended last season, he is a businessman who will still come over to check on his investment and what is happening at the club, whether he likes the business or not he is still going to run his eye over the running of it.

I am saying he hates coming and I expect he won't attend as many games as he has previously.

" I have been told totally different regarding Vincent Tan "

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136474

I have been told from people close to Tan and others who have interviewed Tan the following and we can only wait and see if its true.

That Tan would sell tomorrow if he could get his £150-£160mill back, but that will prob never ever happen.

So its expected that this will be Tans last season even if promoted or even if we fail, Tan will bail out.
Tan will take a loss either way, of course if promoted,no where near the loss.
Of course tan has to find a buyer first and thats what I have heard he has been trying to do.

Ok people will now say Tan is here for the future, well lets see what happens by next Summer 2015, but I honestly believe Tan will bail out if a buyer can be found.

Pretty sure he would go if he can, he is no fool though and would not want to lose too much money. If we get promoted I would imagine it could be on, but doubt he would sell on with a large loss if we failed to go up .....

Maybe Tan is staying but has plans to bring in an investor/investors on board to bring the debt that he's owed down..

3 Questions

1 - why would he leave after getting a load of New Players and build a nice stand.

2 - if Tan goes next season and the next person comes in and he doesn't turn the club back to blue what's gonna happen next.

3 - An even worse case Scenario, Is what i would call the Nero proclamation, where he just lets the Club burn into Oblivion for the way he has been Humiliated by the Protesters.



What Happens.

I have been told that the one person that wants Vincent Tan out more than anyone else is Vincent Tan himself.

Tan does not enjoy the experience of coming to the club anymore, which is understandable no matter what any of our thoughts are of him, but the fact is he doesn't like it here anymore.

He hates coming to the games.

I have been told exactly the same as what Annis said in the op that Tan wants to leave at the end of the season no matter what.

And you can take it for certain, if Tan was offered anywhere near the amount he has put in or is owed he would sell immediately.

We shall see if your first statement is correct by how many games he turns up for in the coming season, if he hates it as much as you say, then we wont see anything of him at all . Your second point will never be proved either way, as no one will pay anything like what he is owed whilst we are still in this division.

Your second point speaks for itself, the minute we got relegated halved the clubs value and depreciated the players worth as well.
The fans verbal insults will although upset him will not deter him from turning up. Hes created an empire of which our club belongs and he is increasing his interests in the UK. Tan loves prestige and would love to see Cardiff City side by side H.R.Owens as their prestigious equal. Sell he will but only when it pays dividends, he may make mistakes but in the broader picture doesn't do FAIL.
You dont need to be told that.

I have been told that the one person that wants Vincent Tan out more than anyone else is Vincent Tan himself.

Tan does not enjoy the experience of coming to the club anymore, which is understandable no matter what any of our thoughts are of him, but the fact is he doesn't like it here anymore.

He hates coming to the games.

I have been told exactly the same as what Annis said in the op that Tan wants to leave at the end of the season no matter what.

And you can take it for certain, if Tan was offered anywhere near the amount he has put in or is owed he would sell immediately.

I think it's safe to say Tan has all but confirmed this himself with his last Wales Online interview, says he's not enjoying it and family wish he had never got involved & agreeing with them at times.

I have been told Tan is in no rush to leave cardiff city and is enjoying it and is already planning to extend another stand to match the new one

I have been told Tan is in no rush to leave cardiff city and is enjoying it and is already planning to extend another stand to match the new one

Well Jinks you need to go back to your source and give him a good telling of for telling you porkies

I have been told Tan is in no rush to leave cardiff city and is enjoying it and is already planning to extend another stand to match the new one

Well Jinks you need to go back to your source and give him a good telling of for telling you porkies

Dont you believe me Annis

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I have been told that the one person that wants Vincent Tan out more than anyone else is Vincent Tan himself.

Tan does not enjoy the experience of coming to the club anymore, which is understandable no matter what any of our thoughts are of him, but the fact is he doesn't like it here anymore.

He hates coming to the games.

I have been told exactly the same as what Annis said in the op that Tan wants to leave at the end of the season no matter what.

And you can take it for certain, if Tan was offered anywhere near the amount he has put in or is owed he would sell immediately.

I think it's safe to say Tan has all but confirmed this himself with his last Wales Online interview, says he's not enjoying it and family wish he had never got involved & agreeing with them at times.

Yes his family want him out because the Face Book episode and tan is pissed off with the verbal abuse not the 1927. However on the 30th May Tan said the manager is the right man to take the club back up. If we go up he will be the right man to take us forward. I will then bring them over to Malaysia in the summer. Doesnt sound that he'll sell at any time soon, at least until the value of the club rises. Not sure if this was a sticky?

Yes his family want him out because the Face Book episode and tan is pissed off with the verbal abuse not the 1927.

where have I given any reasoning for this? I've not even mentioned 1927 as for upset fans? Whilst I don't condone their behaviour, that's what happens when you disrespect fans and club identity/traditions.

However on the 30th May Tan said the manager is the right man to take the club back up. If we go up he will be the right man to take us forward. I will then bring them over to Malaysia in the summer. Doesnt sound that he'll sell at any time soon, at least until the value of the club rises. Not sure if this was a sticky?

so he's not looking to leave because he has plans for a trip to Malaysia in a few years time?! okay.

I have been told Tan is in no rush to leave cardiff city and is enjoying it and is already planning to extend another stand to match the new one

Well Jinks you need to go back to your source and give him a good telling of for telling you porkies

Dont you believe me Annis

No Jinks, but uve cheered me up with your joke

I have been told Tan is in no rush to leave cardiff city and is enjoying it and is already planning to extend another stand to match the new one

Well Jinks you need to go back to your source and give him a good telling of for telling you porkies

Dont you believe me Annis

No Jinks, but uve cheered me up with your joke

" I have been told totally different regarding Vincent Tan "

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136474

I have been told from people close to Tan and others who have interviewed Tan the following and we can only wait and see if its true.

That Tan would sell tomorrow if he could get his £150-£160mill back, but that will prob never ever happen.

So its expected that this will be Tans last season even if promoted or even if we fail, Tan will bail out.
Tan will take a loss either way, of course if promoted,no where near the loss.
Of course tan has to find a buyer first and thats what I have heard he has been trying to do.

Ok people will now say Tan is here for the future, well lets see what happens by next Summer 2015, but I honestly believe Tan will bail out if a buyer can be found.

is this by a certain person who's now just left Cardiff City?

Way out Natman as usual.

Just because Julian has left, I still have 5 good contacts in the club and in fact 4 of them have all told me the same

Nope, and not for much longer you won't. The leaks are all being cleared out, slowly but surely

" I have been told totally different regarding Vincent Tan "

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136474

I have been told from people close to Tan and others who have interviewed Tan the following and we can only wait and see if its true.

That Tan would sell tomorrow if he could get his £150-£160mill back, but that will prob never ever happen.

So its expected that this will be Tans last season even if promoted or even if we fail, Tan will bail out.
Tan will take a loss either way, of course if promoted,no where near the loss.
Of course tan has to find a buyer first and thats what I have heard he has been trying to do.

Ok people will now say Tan is here for the future, well lets see what happens by next Summer 2015, but I honestly believe Tan will bail out if a buyer can be found.

is this by a certain person who's now just left Cardiff City?

Way out Natman as usual.

Just because Julian has left, I still have 5 good contacts in the club and in fact 4 of them have all told me the same

Nope, and not for much longer you won't. The leaks are all being cleared out, slowly but surely

Ok Nat

" I have been told totally different regarding Vincent Tan "

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136474

I have been told from people close to Tan and others who have interviewed Tan the following and we can only wait and see if its true.

That Tan would sell tomorrow if he could get his £150-£160mill back, but that will prob never ever happen.

So its expected that this will be Tans last season even if promoted or even if we fail, Tan will bail out.
Tan will take a loss either way, of course if promoted,no where near the loss.
Of course tan has to find a buyer first and thats what I have heard he has been trying to do.

Ok people will now say Tan is here for the future, well lets see what happens by next Summer 2015, but I honestly believe Tan will bail out if a buyer can be found.

is this by a certain person who's now just left Cardiff City?

Way out Natman as usual.

Just because Julian has left, I still have 5 good contacts in the club and in fact 4 of them have all told me the same

Nope, and not for much longer you won't. The leaks are all being cleared out, slowly but surely

Ok Nat

fine, but I've heard who's next

besides. I still can't believe you haven't sussed what's been going on the last few weeks/months

" I have been told totally different regarding Vincent Tan "

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=136474

I have been told from people close to Tan and others who have interviewed Tan the following and we can only wait and see if its true.

That Tan would sell tomorrow if he could get his £150-£160mill back, but that will prob never ever happen.

So its expected that this will be Tans last season even if promoted or even if we fail, Tan will bail out.
Tan will take a loss either way, of course if promoted,no where near the loss.
Of course tan has to find a buyer first and thats what I have heard he has been trying to do.

Ok people will now say Tan is here for the future, well lets see what happens by next Summer 2015, but I honestly believe Tan will bail out if a buyer can be found.

is this by a certain person who's now just left Cardiff City?

Way out Natman as usual.

Just because Julian has left, I still have 5 good contacts in the club and in fact 4 of them have all told me the same

Nope, and not for much longer you won't. The leaks are all being cleared out, slowly but surely

Ok Nat

fine, but I've heard who's next

besides. I still can't believe you haven't sussed what's been going on the last few weeks/months

Ok Nat