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litigation could have a field day with this. As much as I respect what you're trying to do I am concerned

I would take that photo again if I was you mate.

Maybe get someone to model it......no offence.

Spot on, clothes always looks better when modelled, Can we get a Tan look-alike to do this?

litigation could have a field day with this. As much as I respect what you're trying to do I am concerned

Have to say that on this occasion I agree. The law is quite clear on 'copyright' and I think the "Visit Wales" logo might just be a step too far for those at the top who need to keep the paying sponsor happy (regardless who that is)

If it wasn't for that, I think there wouldn't be too much of a concern. After all, 'alternate' t-shirts have been around for a long time and not been too much of an issue to anyone in the grand scheme of things

Also, it's ok people saying "**** this, **** that" on the subject, so long as you are all prepared for the substantial "whip round" required to help pay the manufacturers fines (should the worse scenario occur)

Just a thought (and I'll still be wearing my own BLUE next season)

If you've got no permission to use the official Visit Wales logo, you are being very risky by using it.

I'd say that was more concerning than the use of a bluebird on this shirt.

If you've got no permission to use the official Visit Wales logo, you are being very risky by using it.

I'd say that was more concerning than the use of a bluebird on this shirt.

Alex, I agree. The provocative "Visit Wales" logo was the single thing I was most concerned about

Not bad.

However, it's the visit Wales logo that I find somewhat detracts from the "we want a return to blue message" - it's almost as if it's trying to fly in the face against the visit Malaysia advertising the club have been using, and that's not really the issue we have, is it?

It's a fan-made football shirt. As a football shirt, I'm sure 90% of Cardiff fans would say that there's nothing more or less they would want from a Cardiff City shirt. Blue/white/yellow as our rightful colours, our symbol as the dominant image of the badge (the Bluebird), our nickname on the shirt, the Welsh flag, and local "sponsorship". It's the ideal Cardiff City shirt. I'm sure no one would choose to have Visit Malaysia as our sponsor.

Why do you buy the official Cardiff shirt with visit Malaysia and the hated badge on.There's some nice retro ones being sold.Makes you look a bit of a hypocrite giving the club your money for merchandise you don't like.

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If you've got no permission to use the official Visit Wales logo, you are being very risky by using it.

I'd say that was more concerning than the use of a bluebird on this shirt.

Alex, I agree. The provocative "Visit Wales" logo was the single thing I was most concerned about

Chris, I love the theory of it all, I just worry that Thomas might not have totally looked into it when producing these.

Without permission, using the Visit Wales logo and text is a clear breach of copyright.

If you've got no permission to use the official Visit Wales logo, you are being very risky by using it.

I'd say that was more concerning than the use of a bluebird on this shirt.

Alex, I agree. The provocative "Visit Wales" logo was the single thing I was most concerned about

Chris, I love the theory of it all, I just worry that Thomas might not have totally looked into it when producing these.

Without permission, using the Visit Wales logo and text is a clear breach of copyright.

My concern too, it's the separate issues in themselves and what a combination of the two is creating or alluding too. You don't want to p*** people off when you're treading a very fine legal line.

If he had no bluebird logo and no visit wales and it was just a 'protest' shirt or alternative then he might have got away fine. The problem is now he has implicated the Welsh Tourist board into a protest, they could take action purely to protect their branding and reputation. Only last year they had a major sponsorship deal with City in order to raise the profile of Wales across the World, I very much doubt they would want their reputation tarnished and the relationship with the club affected. Unfortunately, i think by putting that logo on there they might be playing right into the Club's hands, the designer could now be taken to court for the sake of the club without the club even getting involved.

This is a forum after all so I am allowed a say.
It is hideous sorry to say Thomas, looks like something a league of wales club would wear or even parks football.
Shouldn't have wasted your time and effort mate. No hard feelings.

With due respect , I think it looks a bit hotch potch and the artificial light does not do the pic or the shirt any favours.

so are the trust actually making one, or is it just a rumour?

Seems the samples were delivered last night.

There will be some type of vote (through Wales Online I think) on a few alternative designs before final decision on which one to go ahead with - but seems very close.

This from Alfie Sherwood on CCMB on 31 May:

'Personally, I've been driving another 'alternative' shirt project for the past few weeks involving the supporters trust (they have their own bluebird logo which can be legitimately used) and other supporter representative bodies.

We've got full local media backing to publicise the launch and a major UK based supplier on board to handle the logistics. They will also help to promote the shirt launch nationally. We are also working in partnership with Ty Hafan and all of the profits from the venture will go to them.

We will have several designs to put before the fans in a poll and their favourite design will then be produced.

We anticipate that the shirt chosen by the supporters will be available to order in the next 2-3 weeks with delivery well in advance of the summer holidays. It will be available in kids/ladies and adult men's sizes'.

This is a forum after all so I am allowed a say.
It is hideous sorry to say Thomas, looks like something a league of wales club would wear or even parks football.
Shouldn't have wasted your time and effort mate. No hard feelings.

Sums up my feelings of the official club shirt.

I assume there is no sponsorship with the Welsh Government or Welsh Tourist Board so tread carefully.

These things often go under the radar with Trading Standards but we are talking about shirts that are being sold to MAKE a statement so knowledge of them will get around.

The Welsh Government won't want to be seen undermining an individual in Tan who, whatever we think of him, is trying to promote the club and Wales on a worldwide stage.

Get them sold and walk away sharpish and you'll be fine. But if you are looking to promote the shirt and show the wider media and public we are making a stance expect some comebacks.

I personally will wait to see the design choices for the Ty Hafan logo'd shirt as it has potential to be promoted throughout the media, raisethe profile of our cause and may make some money for a good cause as well.

so are the trust actually making one, or is it just a rumour?

Seems the samples were delivered last night.

There will be some type of vote (through Wales Online I think) on a few alternative designs before final decision on which one to go ahead with - but seems very close.

This from Alfie Sherwood on CCMB on 31 May:

'Personally, I've been driving another 'alternative' shirt project for the past few weeks involving the supporters trust (they have their own bluebird logo which can be legitimately used) and other supporter representative bodies.

We've got full local media backing to publicise the launch and a major UK based supplier on board to handle the logistics. They will also help to promote the shirt launch nationally. We are also working in partnership with Ty Hafan and all of the profits from the venture will go to them.

We will have several designs to put before the fans in a poll and their favourite design will then be produced.

We anticipate that the shirt chosen by the supporters will be available to order in the next 2-3 weeks with delivery well in advance of the summer holidays. It will be available in kids/ladies and adult men's sizes'.

A far more sensible option!

I would take that photo again if I was you mate.

Maybe get someone to model it......no offence.

Spot on, clothes always looks better when modelled, Can we get a Tan look-alike to do this?

Just trying to help the guy out.....right now to me it looks like a stained dishcloth on a plastic hanger.
No time or thought given to it.....I'm sure he could get maybe one of Annis's kids to model it, give em a free shirt and call in Jon Candy who could take some great photos.......as the old saying goes in selling clothes.

Flash is Cash.

so are the trust actually making one, or is it just a rumour?

They are in advanced talks with a supplier, fingers crossed it comes off. With the support of the echo it will help advertise the shirt and of course it will help a great cause in Ty Hafan.


Great effort with this shirt aswell

I will have 1 if u can do itin xxl

What an absolute mess of a shirt.

so are the trust actually making one, or is it just a rumour?

Seems the samples were delivered last night.

There will be some type of vote (through Wales Online I think) on a few alternative designs before final decision on which one to go ahead with - but seems very close.

This from Alfie Sherwood on CCMB on 31 May:

'Personally, I've been driving another 'alternative' shirt project for the past few weeks involving the supporters trust (they have their own bluebird logo which can be legitimately used) and other supporter representative bodies.

We've got full local media backing to publicise the launch and a major UK based supplier on board to handle the logistics. They will also help to promote the shirt launch nationally. We are also working in partnership with Ty Hafan and all of the profits from the venture will go to them.

We will have several designs to put before the fans in a poll and their favourite design will then be produced.

We anticipate that the shirt chosen by the supporters will be available to order in the next 2-3 weeks with delivery well in advance of the summer holidays. It will be available in kids/ladies and adult men's sizes'.

This seems to be the better option IMO especially with with several designs to vote for.
I can appreciate all the work this other guy has done but I think the shirt looks crap. Don't like the silly white band & as someone else said it makes it looks a bit of a hotch potch.

Must say it looks like a stock Asian made shirt with a stamp on it. I am not knocking the idea or Steve. Genuinely disappointed though. Could have been so much better.

the biggest problem with this shirt is it is made probably abroad, for a profit......

no idea why anyone would support this when other bodies are trying to get official versions going......where any profits would either benefit those bodies { who one way or other represent us } or local charities..........

I'll see the second design first.

so are the trust actually making one, or is it just a rumour?

Seems the samples were delivered last night.

There will be some type of vote (through Wales Online I think) on a few alternative designs before final decision on which one to go ahead with - but seems very close.

This from Alfie Sherwood on CCMB on 31 May:

'Personally, I've been driving another 'alternative' shirt project for the past few weeks involving the supporters trust (they have their own bluebird logo which can be legitimately used) and other supporter representative bodies.

We've got full local media backing to publicise the launch and a major UK based supplier on board to handle the logistics. They will also help to promote the shirt launch nationally. We are also working in partnership with Ty Hafan and all of the profits from the venture will go to them.

We will have several designs to put before the fans in a poll and their favourite design will then be produced.

We anticipate that the shirt chosen by the supporters will be available to order in the next 2-3 weeks with delivery well in advance of the summer holidays. It will be available in kids/ladies and adult men's sizes'.

think i'll have a look at the trusts design before i buy this one! i like Thomas' design btw, and fair play for him putting in the effort

Didn't I also read that the Trust shirt will also have Ty Hafen as the shirt sponsor with all profits going to the charity? Brilliant idea if true

Didn't I also read that the Trust shirt will also have Ty Hafen as the shirt sponsor with all profits going to the charity? Brilliant idea if true

not much of a choice really........OUR trust,with profits going to a worthy cause..........or a quick dollar for profit........
but as with everything else, one will undermine the other..............

Get somebody to model these shirts and photograph them out in the open.The background light doesn't show them off properly-great shirts though well done

Didn't I also read that the Trust shirt will also have Ty Hafen as the shirt sponsor with all profits going to the charity? Brilliant idea if true

not much of a choice really........OUR trust,with profits going to a worthy cause..........or a quick dollar for profit........
but as with everything else, one will undermine the other..............

Yes, it was a huge coincidence that this shirt was announced just hours before the Trust went public with their shirt- Hmmmm, as they say

Didn't I also read that the Trust shirt will also have Ty Hafen as the shirt sponsor with all profits going to the charity? Brilliant idea if true

not much of a choice really........OUR trust,with profits going to a worthy cause..........or a quick dollar for profit........
but as with everything else, one will undermine the other..............

Yes, it was a huge coincidence that this shirt was announced just hours before the Trust went public with their shirt- Hmmmm, as they say

Thomas has been designing and working with manufactures for the last 5 months on this top, the Trust idea only started a few weeks ago, but who cares as long as the more BLUE the better I say.

Whatever shirt is picked it would be a good idea to get a few of the old players to model it, Jason Perry, Andy Legge, Earnie etc
There support would help the sales tremendously

Didn't I also read that the Trust shirt will also have Ty Hafen as the shirt sponsor with all profits going to the charity? Brilliant idea if true

not much of a choice really........OUR trust,with profits going to a worthy cause..........or a quick dollar for profit........
but as with everything else, one will undermine the other..............

Yes, it was a huge coincidence that this shirt was announced just hours before the Trust went public with their shirt- Hmmmm, as they say

Thomas has been designing and working with manufactures for the last 5 months on this top, the Trust idea only started a few weeks ago, but who cares as long as the more BLUE the better I say.

OMFG 5 months I could have knocked it out in 25 minutes....working with Manufactures.

Do they make them in size HENCH?