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Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 5:39 pm

phildavies wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:A very good goalkeeper who Wenger couldn't decide to choose between him and Szczęsny hence Fabianski playing every cup match and also the FA Cup Final.On that evidence we've signed one hell of a keeper who will be a success down here.


I think the fact he played 32 times in 7 years in comparison to Szczesny's 119 in 5 years is evident which keeper Wenger thought was his number one. Having a cup keeper isn't a new thing.


Szczesny was always his number 1 but we've got a very good stopper who was pushing him all the way.We'll settle for that.


Think they are both pretty average TBH most of the other clubs in te prem have better keepers than either of them.


To be honest i agree on Szczesny.Arsenal haven't had a real keeper since Seaman and Lehmann.I do think Fabianski will thrive at Swansea though like most players do.We have that knack of bringing the best out in players and i think we will with Fabianski too.

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 5:51 pm

6 bysedd wrote:
phildavies wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:A very good goalkeeper who Wenger couldn't decide to choose between him and Szczęsny hence Fabianski playing every cup match and also the FA Cup Final.On that evidence we've signed one hell of a keeper who will be a success down here.


I think the fact he played 32 times in 7 years in comparison to Szczesny's 119 in 5 years is evident which keeper Wenger thought was his number one. Having a cup keeper isn't a new thing.


Szczesny was always his number 1 but we've got a very good stopper who was pushing him all the way.We'll settle for that.


Think they are both pretty average TBH most of the other clubs in te prem have better keepers than either of them.


To be honest i agree on Szczesny.Arsenal haven't had a real keeper since Seaman and Lehmann.I do think Fabianski will thrive at Swansea though like most players do.We have that knack of bringing the best out in players and i think we will with Fabianski too.


You have the knack of getting the best out of them for one season and bringing in a replacement before they go too far downhill.

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 6:20 pm

Aramore wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
phildavies wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:A very good goalkeeper who Wenger couldn't decide to choose between him and Szczęsny hence Fabianski playing every cup match and also the FA Cup Final.On that evidence we've signed one hell of a keeper who will be a success down here.


I think the fact he played 32 times in 7 years in comparison to Szczesny's 119 in 5 years is evident which keeper Wenger thought was his number one. Having a cup keeper isn't a new thing.


Szczesny was always his number 1 but we've got a very good stopper who was pushing him all the way.We'll settle for that.


Think they are both pretty average TBH most of the other clubs in te prem have better keepers than either of them.


To be honest i agree on Szczesny.Arsenal haven't had a real keeper since Seaman and Lehmann.I do think Fabianski will thrive at Swansea though like most players do.We have that knack of bringing the best out in players and i think we will with Fabianski too.


You have the knack of getting the best out of them for one season and bringing in a replacement before they go too far downhill.


Like who?

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 6:33 pm

6 bysedd wrote:
Aramore wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
phildavies wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:A very good goalkeeper who Wenger couldn't decide to choose between him and Szczęsny hence Fabianski playing every cup match and also the FA Cup Final.On that evidence we've signed one hell of a keeper who will be a success down here.


I think the fact he played 32 times in 7 years in comparison to Szczesny's 119 in 5 years is evident which keeper Wenger thought was his number one. Having a cup keeper isn't a new thing.


Szczesny was always his number 1 but we've got a very good stopper who was pushing him all the way.We'll settle for that.


Think they are both pretty average TBH most of the other clubs in te prem have better keepers than either of them.


To be honest i agree on Szczesny.Arsenal haven't had a real keeper since Seaman and Lehmann.I do think Fabianski will thrive at Swansea though like most players do.We have that knack of bringing the best out in players and i think we will with Fabianski too.


You have the knack of getting the best out of them for one season and bringing in a replacement before they go too far downhill.


Like who?


Every forward you've signed for the past 5 years

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 7:03 pm

Aramore wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
Aramore wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
phildavies wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:A very good goalkeeper who Wenger couldn't decide to choose between him and Szczęsny hence Fabianski playing every cup match and also the FA Cup Final.On that evidence we've signed one hell of a keeper who will be a success down here.


I think the fact he played 32 times in 7 years in comparison to Szczesny's 119 in 5 years is evident which keeper Wenger thought was his number one. Having a cup keeper isn't a new thing.


Szczesny was always his number 1 but we've got a very good stopper who was pushing him all the way.We'll settle for that.


Think they are both pretty average TBH most of the other clubs in te prem have better keepers than either of them.


To be honest i agree on Szczesny.Arsenal haven't had a real keeper since Seaman and Lehmann.I do think Fabianski will thrive at Swansea though like most players do.We have that knack of bringing the best out in players and i think we will with Fabianski too.


You have the knack of getting the best out of them for one season and bringing in a replacement before they go too far downhill.


Like who?


Every forward you've signed for the past 5 years


We upgrade and not get rid because they've gone downhill.We replaced Danny Graham with Bony which was us upgrading.It might come to a stage where we sell Bony and not upgrade as that would be difficult but I don't think we're a club who brings players on for a season and then get rid before they begin to go downhill.Who are these forwards we've signed and got rid after one season?

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 7:05 pm

6 bysedd wrote:
Aramore wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
Aramore wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
phildavies wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:A very good goalkeeper who Wenger couldn't decide to choose between him and Szczęsny hence Fabianski playing every cup match and also the FA Cup Final.On that evidence we've signed one hell of a keeper who will be a success down here.


I think the fact he played 32 times in 7 years in comparison to Szczesny's 119 in 5 years is evident which keeper Wenger thought was his number one. Having a cup keeper isn't a new thing.


Szczesny was always his number 1 but we've got a very good stopper who was pushing him all the way.We'll settle for that.


Think they are both pretty average TBH most of the other clubs in te prem have better keepers than either of them.


To be honest i agree on Szczesny.Arsenal haven't had a real keeper since Seaman and Lehmann.I do think Fabianski will thrive at Swansea though like most players do.We have that knack of bringing the best out in players and i think we will with Fabianski too.


You have the knack of getting the best out of them for one season and bringing in a replacement before they go too far downhill.


Like who?


Every forward you've signed for the past 5 years


We upgrade and not get rid because they've gone downhill.We replaced Danny Graham with Bony which was us upgrading.It might come to a stage where we sell Bony and not upgrade as that would be difficult but I don't think we're a club who brings players on for a season and then get rid before they begin to go downhill.Who are these forwards we've signed and got rid after one season?


Borini signed for you and was awesome, done bugger all since
Graham signed for you and was awesome, done bugger all since
Siggurdson signed for you and was awesome, done bugger all since
Michu signed for you and was awesome, done bugger all since
Bony next?

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 7:18 pm

I think the standard of first choice keepers as gone down the last couple of years at the top end clubs. Peter cech probably the more consistent out of them. Don't know if this guy is any better than vorm if he is set to leave but getting a keeper from a champions league squad for a relatively small signing on fee isn't bad business

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 7:19 pm

Aramore wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
Aramore wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
Aramore wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
phildavies wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
6 bysedd wrote:A very good goalkeeper who Wenger couldn't decide to choose between him and Szczęsny hence Fabianski playing every cup match and also the FA Cup Final.On that evidence we've signed one hell of a keeper who will be a success down here.


I think the fact he played 32 times in 7 years in comparison to Szczesny's 119 in 5 years is evident which keeper Wenger thought was his number one. Having a cup keeper isn't a new thing.


Szczesny was always his number 1 but we've got a very good stopper who was pushing him all the way.We'll settle for that.


Think they are both pretty average TBH most of the other clubs in te prem have better keepers than either of them.


To be honest i agree on Szczesny.Arsenal haven't had a real keeper since Seaman and Lehmann.I do think Fabianski will thrive at Swansea though like most players do.We have that knack of bringing the best out in players and i think we will with Fabianski too.


You have the knack of getting the best out of them for one season and bringing in a replacement before they go too far downhill.


Like who?


Every forward you've signed for the past 5 years


We upgrade and not get rid because they've gone downhill.We replaced Danny Graham with Bony which was us upgrading.It might come to a stage where we sell Bony and not upgrade as that would be difficult but I don't think we're a club who brings players on for a season and then get rid before they begin to go downhill.Who are these forwards we've signed and got rid after one season?


Borini signed for you and was awesome, done bugger all since
Graham signed for you and was awesome, done bugger all since
Siggurdson signed for you and was awesome, done bugger all since
Michu signed for you and was awesome, done bugger all since
Bony next?

Borini and Siggy weren't even our players,so they were always going to be here for the season and no more especially when they're that good.Michu is still with us as far as I know and Bony certainly is.I don't agree with you that we're that sort of club.Look at Routledge, he's been with us a good few years now and is playing the best football of his career.Ash the same.If a player does well here then we tend to hang onto them and in no way sell after one fruitful season.

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:01 pm

Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:06 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:08 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday.


Hmmm. Besides I wasn't specifically referring to vorm, just a general observation :thumbup:

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:11 pm

Well then im struggling to see the point of your statement if it doesnt apply here then. :?

We have all been complaining about Vorm all season long and last season post injury.

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:15 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.


Oh you edited. 78 games over 7 seasons, many of which were domestic cup games. So out of interest how many clean sheets were against lower league opposition? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish him, quit frankly I'm not bothered about him either way, just getting some context to your stats.

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:17 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.


Oh you edited. 78 games over 7 seasons, many of which were domestic cup games. So out of interest how many clean sheets were against lower league opposition? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish him, quit frankly I'm not bothered about him either way, just getting some context to your stats.


No idea. Doesnt matter really, common sense tells us they are going to be decent opposition in there. 32 of those games were in the Premier League (and so will many of the cup games be against prem opposition) where the conceding ratio is the same as well as 11 (i think) clean sheets. :thumbright:

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:18 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday.


Hmmm. Besides I wasn't specifically referring to vorm, just a general observation :thumbup:


I didn't say it didn't apply. Hence the "hmmm". Too subtle I guess :thumbup:

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:29 pm

Well then i refer to my original point in the fact that many had said he was shit prior to yesterday :thumbright:

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:37 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.


Oh you edited. 78 games over 7 seasons, many of which were domestic cup games. So out of interest how many clean sheets were against lower league opposition? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish him, quit frankly I'm not bothered about him either way, just getting some context to your stats.


No idea. Doesnt matter really, common sense tells us they are going to be decent opposition in there. 32 of those games were in the Premier League (and so will many of the cup games be against prem opposition) where the conceding ratio is the same as well as 11 (i think) clean sheets. :thumbright:


Of course there will be decent opposition in there, but probably as many lower league teams. Therefore the clean sheet record loses some credibility. Having said that, as usual stats can be very misleading, especially with GK as a clean sheet could be more down to the 10 in front of him. A GK could also play a blinder yet concede, as we found many times with Marshall.

70+ games over 7 seasons is poor so it will be interesting to see how he performs week in week out. Can't fault getting him on a free though so nothing to lose :thumbup:

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 8:43 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.


Oh you edited. 78 games over 7 seasons, many of which were domestic cup games. So out of interest how many clean sheets were against lower league opposition? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish him, quit frankly I'm not bothered about him either way, just getting some context to your stats.


No idea. Doesnt matter really, common sense tells us they are going to be decent opposition in there. 32 of those games were in the Premier League (and so will many of the cup games be against prem opposition) where the conceding ratio is the same as well as 11 (i think) clean sheets. :thumbright:


Of course there will be decent opposition in there, but probably as many lower league teams. Therefore the clean sheet record loses some credibility. Having said that, as usual stats can be very misleading, especially with GK as a clean sheet could be more down to the 10 in front of him. A GK could also play a blinder yet concede, as we found many times with Marshall.

70+ games over 7 seasons is poor so it will be interesting to see how he performs week in week out. Can't fault getting him on a free though so nothing to lose :thumbup:


The games against lower opposition (which will be the minority of games that record makes up) will have a weakened defence in front of him, so it evens out.

Stats can always be squiffed however the more matches you have to look at the more accurate they will become. 78 games seems a decent amount of games to me. A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game, and in fact his premier league record is less than a goal a game.

Arsenal wouldn't offer him 50k a week and have the chance to turn down other top european and english teams should he be a bad keeper, again thats just common sense really :thumbup:

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 9:03 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.


Oh you edited. 78 games over 7 seasons, many of which were domestic cup games. So out of interest how many clean sheets were against lower league opposition? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish him, quit frankly I'm not bothered about him either way, just getting some context to your stats.


No idea. Doesnt matter really, common sense tells us they are going to be decent opposition in there. 32 of those games were in the Premier League (and so will many of the cup games be against prem opposition) where the conceding ratio is the same as well as 11 (i think) clean sheets. :thumbright:


Of course there will be decent opposition in there, but probably as many lower league teams. Therefore the clean sheet record loses some credibility. Having said that, as usual stats can be very misleading, especially with GK as a clean sheet could be more down to the 10 in front of him. A GK could also play a blinder yet concede, as we found many times with Marshall.

70+ games over 7 seasons is poor so it will be interesting to see how he performs week in week out. Can't fault getting him on a free though so nothing to lose :thumbup:


The games against lower opposition (which will be the minority of games that record makes up) will have a weakened defence in front of him, so it evens out.

Stats can always be squiffed however the more matches you have to look at the more accurate they will become. 78 games seems a decent amount of games to me. A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game, and in fact his premier league record is less than a goal a game.

Arsenal wouldn't offer him 50k a week and have the chance to turn down other top european and english teams should he be a bad keeper, again thats just common sense really :thumbup:


You've just made this goal per game criteria up :lol: . Marshall conceded more than a goal per game over the last 2 seasons, taking in more games than fabianski's appearances in 7 seasons, so he's now a poor GK? I would hazard a guess that the likes of loris and de gea will fall foul of your new criteria too.
Funny how you now concede the more games played the more accurate stats become yet were quite content on using stats to compare monk to laudrup after about 3 games in charge :lol:
You talk some shit fair play :lol:

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 11:42 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:You've just made this goal per game criteria up :lol: . Marshall conceded more than a goal per game over the last 2 seasons, taking in more games than fabianski's appearances in 7 seasons, so he's now a poor GK? I would hazard a guess that the likes of loris and de gea will fall foul of your new criteria too.
Funny how you now concede the more games played the more accurate stats become yet were quite content on using stats to compare monk to laudrup after about 3 games in charge :lol:
You talk some shit fair play :lol:


How have i made it up? Its facts you pleb :D If you compare similar teams in the same league then you can draw a comparison in respective positions. Not rocket science. Conceding less than a goal a game in an Arsenal side against premier league opposition is very good indeed.

The more tests you have the more accurate anything is. Im not a time traveller so was quite happy to compare monks 12 games in charge as it is all we had to go on. Use your brain.

Have another go carps :laughing6:

Re: fabianski

Thu May 29, 2014 11:45 pm

Good deal and signing for Swansea.

Re: fabianski

Fri May 30, 2014 6:32 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:You've just made this goal per game criteria up :lol: . Marshall conceded more than a goal per game over the last 2 seasons, taking in more games than fabianski's appearances in 7 seasons, so he's now a poor GK? I would hazard a guess that the likes of loris and de gea will fall foul of your new criteria too.
Funny how you now concede the more games played the more accurate stats become yet were quite content on using stats to compare monk to laudrup after about 3 games in charge :lol:
You talk some shit fair play :lol:


How have i made it up? Its facts you pleb :D If you compare similar teams in the same league then you can draw a comparison in respective positions. Not rocket science. Conceding less than a goal a game in an Arsenal side against premier league opposition is very good indeed.

The more tests you have the more accurate anything is. Im not a time traveller so was quite happy to compare monks 12 games in charge as it is all we had to go on. Use your brain.

Have another go carps :laughing6:


As usual you read what you want and ignore the key points. Where did I say conceding less than a goal per game isn't good?
The bit you made up was deciding now that if a GK concedes more than an average of a goal a game then they are "a bad keeper".

Whilst the maths is fact, the definition of what makes a bad keeper is made up by you, you pleb :roll:

So again I ask, have Marshall, Loris and de gea been bad keepers over the last 2 seasons?

As for monk you were making ridiculous comparisons after about 3 or 4 games, not even 12, but at least you now concede that the accuracy of such a stat is flawed, just what I was pointing out to you at the time. You continually contradict yourself like the bullshitter you are :laughing6:

Use your brain, eh roathie :thumbup:

Re: fabianski

Fri May 30, 2014 6:39 am

Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:You've just made this goal per game criteria up :lol: . Marshall conceded more than a goal per game over the last 2 seasons, taking in more games than fabianski's appearances in 7 seasons, so he's now a poor GK? I would hazard a guess that the likes of loris and de gea will fall foul of your new criteria too.
Funny how you now concede the more games played the more accurate stats become yet were quite content on using stats to compare monk to laudrup after about 3 games in charge :lol:
You talk some shit fair play :lol:


How have i made it up? Its facts you pleb :D If you compare similar teams in the same league then you can draw a comparison in respective positions. Not rocket science. Conceding less than a goal a game in an Arsenal side against premier league opposition is very good indeed.

The more tests you have the more accurate anything is. Im not a time traveller so was quite happy to compare monks 12 games in charge as it is all we had to go on. Use your brain.

Have another go carps :laughing6:


As usual you read what you want and ignore the key points. Where did I say conceding less than a goal per game isn't good?
The bit you made up was deciding now that if a GK concedes more than an average of a goal a game then they are "a bad keeper".

what? Are you lying again carps?

Quote please :thumbright:


Whilst the maths is fact, the definition of what makes a bad keeper is made up by you, you pleb :roll:

ive not once stated anything that makes a poor keeper - a complete and bizarre fabrication on your part. Bit pleb like of you im sure you will agree :D

So again I ask, have Marshall, Loris and de gea been bad keepers over the last 2 seasons?

ive not seen them, no idea.

As for monk you were making ridiculous comparisons after about 3 or 4 games, not even 12, but at least you now concede that the accuracy of such a stat is flawed, just what I was pointing out to you at the time. You continually contradict yourself like the bullshitter you are :laughing6:

it isnt flawed at all, you seem to have made that up as well. Isnt that a form of bullshitting? :D

If you use 100% of the data you have for that specific area you are focusing in then it is as accurate as it can be, whether thats 4, 40 or 400 makes no difference. :thumbup:


Use your brain, eh roathie :thumbup:

id love to but it didnt even get out of first gear to reply to that waffle :laughing6:

Re: fabianski

Fri May 30, 2014 7:46 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.


Oh you edited. 78 games over 7 seasons, many of which were domestic cup games. So out of interest how many clean sheets were against lower league opposition? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish him, quit frankly I'm not bothered about him either way, just getting some context to your stats.


No idea. Doesnt matter really, common sense tells us they are going to be decent opposition in there. 32 of those games were in the Premier League (and so will many of the cup games be against prem opposition) where the conceding ratio is the same as well as 11 (i think) clean sheets. :thumbright:


Of course there will be decent opposition in there, but probably as many lower league teams. Therefore the clean sheet record loses some credibility. Having said that, as usual stats can be very misleading, especially with GK as a clean sheet could be more down to the 10 in front of him. A GK could also play a blinder yet concede, as we found many times with Marshall.

70+ games over 7 seasons is poor so it will be interesting to see how he performs week in week out. Can't fault getting him on a free though so nothing to lose :thumbup:


The games against lower opposition (which will be the minority of games that record makes up) will have a weakened defence in front of him, so it evens out.

Stats can always be squiffed however the more matches you have to look at the more accurate they will become. 78 games seems a decent amount of games to me. A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game, and in fact his premier league record is less than a goal a game.

Arsenal wouldn't offer him 50k a week and have the chance to turn down other top european and english teams should he be a bad keeper, again thats just common sense really :thumbup:


Wow you really are thick :laughing6:

Here's your quote: "A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game". What a pleb like thing to say, wouldn't you agree?

So, I assume you think Marshall has been a bad keeper?

Re: fabianski

Fri May 30, 2014 7:52 am

Oh and being as accurate as you can be doesn't mean you're accurate, whatever way you dress it up :thumbup:

Re: fabianski

Fri May 30, 2014 7:59 am

Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.


Oh you edited. 78 games over 7 seasons, many of which were domestic cup games. So out of interest how many clean sheets were against lower league opposition? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish him, quit frankly I'm not bothered about him either way, just getting some context to your stats.


No idea. Doesnt matter really, common sense tells us they are going to be decent opposition in there. 32 of those games were in the Premier League (and so will many of the cup games be against prem opposition) where the conceding ratio is the same as well as 11 (i think) clean sheets. :thumbright:


Of course there will be decent opposition in there, but probably as many lower league teams. Therefore the clean sheet record loses some credibility. Having said that, as usual stats can be very misleading, especially with GK as a clean sheet could be more down to the 10 in front of him. A GK could also play a blinder yet concede, as we found many times with Marshall.

70+ games over 7 seasons is poor so it will be interesting to see how he performs week in week out. Can't fault getting him on a free though so nothing to lose :thumbup:


The games against lower opposition (which will be the minority of games that record makes up) will have a weakened defence in front of him, so it evens out.

Stats can always be squiffed however the more matches you have to look at the more accurate they will become. 78 games seems a decent amount of games to me. A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game, and in fact his premier league record is less than a goal a game.

Arsenal wouldn't offer him 50k a week and have the chance to turn down other top european and english teams should he be a bad keeper, again thats just common sense really :thumbup:


Wow you really are thick :laughing6:

Here's your quote: "A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game". What a pleb like thing to say, wouldn't you agree?

So, I assume you think Marshall has been a bad keeper?


Jesus.

Fabianski concedes a goal a game. I said he is not a poor keeper as a poor keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game. That doesn't mean you are a bad keeper if you concede more than one a game. Talk about
2+2= 1236567 :laughing6:

Re: fabianski

Fri May 30, 2014 8:01 am

Carpe Diem wrote:Oh and being as accurate as you can be doesn't mean you're accurate, whatever way you dress it up :thumbup:


But it is as accurate as we can be so that is great :thumbright:

He is up at about 15 perm games now and record is the same however you dress it up :thumbright:

Re: fabianski

Fri May 30, 2014 10:57 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.


Oh you edited. 78 games over 7 seasons, many of which were domestic cup games. So out of interest how many clean sheets were against lower league opposition? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish him, quit frankly I'm not bothered about him either way, just getting some context to your stats.


No idea. Doesnt matter really, common sense tells us they are going to be decent opposition in there. 32 of those games were in the Premier League (and so will many of the cup games be against prem opposition) where the conceding ratio is the same as well as 11 (i think) clean sheets. :thumbright:


Of course there will be decent opposition in there, but probably as many lower league teams. Therefore the clean sheet record loses some credibility. Having said that, as usual stats can be very misleading, especially with GK as a clean sheet could be more down to the 10 in front of him. A GK could also play a blinder yet concede, as we found many times with Marshall.

70+ games over 7 seasons is poor so it will be interesting to see how he performs week in week out. Can't fault getting him on a free though so nothing to lose :thumbup:


The games against lower opposition (which will be the minority of games that record makes up) will have a weakened defence in front of him, so it evens out.

Stats can always be squiffed however the more matches you have to look at the more accurate they will become. 78 games seems a decent amount of games to me. A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game, and in fact his premier league record is less than a goal a game.

Arsenal wouldn't offer him 50k a week and have the chance to turn down other top european and english teams should he be a bad keeper, again thats just common sense really :thumbup:


Wow you really are thick :laughing6:

Here's your quote: "A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game". What a pleb like thing to say, wouldn't you agree?

So, I assume you think Marshall has been a bad keeper?


Jesus.

Fabianski concedes a goal a game. I said he is not a poor keeper as a poor keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game. That doesn't mean you are a bad keeper if you concede more than one a game. Talk about
2+2= 1236567 :laughing6:


Right, so you're a poor keeper if you're conceded more than one a game, but you're not a bad keeper now.
Makes perfect sense :laughing6:

Re: fabianski

Fri May 30, 2014 11:00 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Difficult to get excited about any GK really. It is funny how players leaving a club tend to be shit and those coming in are always better :lol:


Not really funny, he was labelled as shit long before yesterday and instead signed Aesenals number 2 who has 23 clean sheets in 78 games and concedes a single goal per game on average.


Oh you edited. 78 games over 7 seasons, many of which were domestic cup games. So out of interest how many clean sheets were against lower league opposition? Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to rubbish him, quit frankly I'm not bothered about him either way, just getting some context to your stats.


No idea. Doesnt matter really, common sense tells us they are going to be decent opposition in there. 32 of those games were in the Premier League (and so will many of the cup games be against prem opposition) where the conceding ratio is the same as well as 11 (i think) clean sheets. :thumbright:


Of course there will be decent opposition in there, but probably as many lower league teams. Therefore the clean sheet record loses some credibility. Having said that, as usual stats can be very misleading, especially with GK as a clean sheet could be more down to the 10 in front of him. A GK could also play a blinder yet concede, as we found many times with Marshall.

70+ games over 7 seasons is poor so it will be interesting to see how he performs week in week out. Can't fault getting him on a free though so nothing to lose :thumbup:


The games against lower opposition (which will be the minority of games that record makes up) will have a weakened defence in front of him, so it evens out.

Stats can always be squiffed however the more matches you have to look at the more accurate they will become. 78 games seems a decent amount of games to me. A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game, and in fact his premier league record is less than a goal a game.

Arsenal wouldn't offer him 50k a week and have the chance to turn down other top european and english teams should he be a bad keeper, again thats just common sense really :thumbup:


Wow you really are thick :laughing6:

Here's your quote: "A bad keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game". What a pleb like thing to say, wouldn't you agree?

So, I assume you think Marshall has been a bad keeper?


Jesus.

Fabianski concedes a goal a game. I said he is not a poor keeper as a poor keeper will be conceding more than a goal a game. That doesn't mean you are a bad keeper if you concede more than one a game. Talk about
2+2= 1236567 :laughing6:


Right, so you're a poor keeper if you're conceded more than one a game, but you're not a bad keeper now.
Makes perfect sense :laughing6:

Re: fabianski

Fri May 30, 2014 11:06 am

Carps, come on now. I know you struggle but this is ridiculous souloftheseas standards. Let me help....

Person A: "Hey everyone look at my bank account im rich"

*bank states person A has £2*

Person B: "I think a rich person would have more than £2 mate".

(Are you suggesting the person B is telling person A that anyone that has more than £2 is constituted as rich?"