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Re: Federico Macheda

Sat May 24, 2014 11:03 pm

Arrow wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Super Kev wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:What a dreadful signing this would be. I hope this isn't going to be a trend from Ole, sign Man United's deadweight just because he coached them a few years back.


FFS. Did you not see how he played last season for Birmingham????



Did you not see how he played at, Qpr, Sampdoria, Stuttgart and Doncaster? Yeah, 3 goals in over 40 odd appearances. But oh well, least he did well at one of his clubs, right?


Yes, his most recent club. Shows he may well have found his form and clearly has the quality to play at this level.


Why couldn't he do it at Doncaster then? Both are equally as shit and he couldn't score for them either (and the loan was recent)

We really must be scrapping right at the bottom for muck like Macheda.


Maybe he just lost form at those clubs it happens and now he is finding it again, a free transfer and not massive wages got to be worth a shot


He never had any form in the first place... he went on a two year goal drought.

We'll see what happens. I hope he proves me wrong but nothing he has done in his career fills me with any confidence.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sat May 24, 2014 11:33 pm

3-4 years later ..... Still linked with us .

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 12:11 am

You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 12:24 am

Nothing more then a gamble signing.

I hope it pays off for us.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 12:32 am

Reza wrote:What a waste of time an wages




Explain, please... :thumbup:

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 2:43 am

Got to love this forum. It seems we are trying to sign a youngster with potential on a free transfer but in reality the same people want us to spend millions on a new striker so they can then moan about tan putting us further in debt.
If he comes give him a chance.
With the service we were providing to our strikers last season van Persie would have struggled to get six goals

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 6:16 am

steve davies wrote:Got to love this forum. It seems we are trying to sign a youngster with potential on a free transfer but in reality the same people want us to spend millions on a new striker so they can then moan about tan putting us further in debt.
If he comes give him a chance.
With the service we were providing to our strikers last season van Persie would have struggled to get six goals

This, in life especially with our fickle supporters your damned if you do damned if you don't. I took over a foreman position recently and shook things up and resolved all the problems the lads complained of to make life easier for them and straight away they found something else to complain about, unfortunately Steve there is no pleasing some people. I think Ole is doing things the right way for once, throwing money at a problem doesn't just resolve it let's hope Ole turns this around as it would be so refreshing to see at our club after last season.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 6:27 am

Ole getting the bargains in good solid signing for me. Cant believe hes still only 22. Thought he was older than that. No money spent. Tans gonna live Ole it seems

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 6:34 am

Sometimes stats don't tell the whole stort. For example in his spells at Stuttgart, QPR and Sampdoria he had a total of 3 starts, so you can pretty much ignore those loans. In the Championship he's got a decent record at 2 struggling clubs and THAT is where WE are playing next season. He's young and free, also 6 ft so gives another physical presence. Maybe a sign Jones is leaving ? I'm open minded about this one.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 7:17 am

Lawnmower wrote:Sometimes stats don't tell the whole stort. For example in his spells at Stuttgart, QPR and Sampdoria he had a total of 3 starts, so you can pretty much ignore those loans. In the Championship he's got a decent record at 2 struggling clubs and THAT is where WE are playing next season. He's young and free, also 6 ft so gives another physical presence. Maybe a sign Jones is leaving ? I'm open minded about this one.

With regards to jones let's hope so aye

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 7:36 am

2blue2handle wrote:Mason 6 goals in 16 games on loan aged 23
Maynard 4 goals in 16 games on loan aged 27
Macheda 10 goals in 18 games on loan aged 22


Spot on. I think people r forgetting was only.20/21 at previous clubs. He has obviously improved with a very gd record of 10 in 18 for a struggling brum team. Reemeber the brace he.scored against villa for manu. The boy has bundles of talent and has his best yrs ahead, well.happy. Sell mason and maynard and ill be extatic.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 7:39 am

Double G wrote:Ole getting the bargains in good solid signing for me. Cant believe hes still only 22. Thought he was older than that. No money spent. Tans gonna live Ole it seems


spot on. Its about finding bargains as well, not pissing money away like previous.managers, well done ole i say, its nice to see.sum1 taking care.of our clubs.books.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 7:48 am

Doesnt excite me if im honest, Ill judge him if/when he plays for us though.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 8:22 am

LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.


Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.

I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 8:31 am

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.


Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.

I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.


Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.

Try these, this is more balanced.


Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 8:32 am

I think he could be a bit like Bothroyd - just needs a steady stage to perform on regular :ole:

Loving the early activity :)

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 8:44 am

Lawnmower wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.


Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.

I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.


Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.

Try these, this is more balanced.


Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.


Most of his goals for Birmingham have been from coming off of the bench I believe, so why couldn't he do it elsewhere? If Macheda was being brought in on loan I wouldn't really care, but we're probably going to stick him on a 3 year deal with stupid wages and if he fails then we'll have him rotting away.

Also I don't care about Grabban, I don't want him.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 8:56 am

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.


Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.

I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.


Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.

Try these, this is more balanced.


Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.


Most of his goals for Birmingham have been from coming off of the bench I believe, so why couldn't he do it elsewhere? If Macheda was being brought in on loan I wouldn't really care, but we're probably going to stick him on a 3 year deal with stupid wages and if he fails then we'll have him rotting away.

Also I don't care about Grabban, I don't want him.


The only other club he's had games at was Doncaster, and there could be any number of reasons for him not getting goals there - the main one probably being they are shit.

I've found the stats - goal every 169 minutes in the Championship -that's between both clubs Donny & Brum.

That's a decent record, even better if you just looked at what he did at Brum, which was the most recent.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/federico ... eler/61887

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 9:06 am

Lawnmower wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.


Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.

I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.


Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.

Try these, this is more balanced.


Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.


10 starts with a further 8 substitute appearances and a total of 1135 minutes on the pitch with 10 goals or a goal every 113 minutes. Grabben scored a goal every 171 minutes on the pitch. I agree Macheda is well worth a punt and well done OGS for pulling this signing off.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 9:07 am

Lawnmower wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.


Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.

I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.


Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.

Try these, this is more balanced.


Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.


Most of his goals for Birmingham have been from coming off of the bench I believe, so why couldn't he do it elsewhere? If Macheda was being brought in on loan I wouldn't really care, but we're probably going to stick him on a 3 year deal with stupid wages and if he fails then we'll have him rotting away.

Also I don't care about Grabban, I don't want him.


The only other club he's had games at was Doncaster, and there could be any number of reasons for him not getting goals there - the main one probably being they are shit.

I've found the stats - goal every 169 minutes in the Championship -that's between both clubs Donny & Brum.

That's a decent record, even better if you just looked at what he did at Brum, which was the most recent.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/federico ... eler/61887



You do know Birmingham finished one place above Doncaster? They are as bad as eachother.

Yes his record last season was impressive - no doubt about it. But like Grabban, he has had one good season in the Championship and all of a sudden everyone seems to forget his record prior to that said season. He'd be a good loan option, not a permanent signing

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 9:48 am

You got to laugh at some people on here. Every playa we sign seems to be on massive wages. What they dont mention is the millions saved on these frees that more than cover any possible wage increase.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 9:57 am

BobbyBlue wrote:You got to laugh at some people on here. Every playa we sign seems to be on massive wages. What they dont mention is the millions saved on these frees that more than cover any possible wage increase.



No-one has said anything of the sort.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 10:11 am

Correct me If I'm wrong. He had lots of injuries until recently. This seem to be sorted, and he starts to deliver. I'd say a possible quality signing, free agent, goal each 113 min. What we need :ole: :ayatollah:

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 10:48 am

Another ex manc FFS, his scouting network is up there with the best innit

Useless c**t

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 11:03 am

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.


Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.

I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.


Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.

Try these, this is more balanced.


Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.


Most of his goals for Birmingham have been from coming off of the bench I believe, so why couldn't he do it elsewhere? If Macheda was being brought in on loan I wouldn't really care, but we're probably going to stick him on a 3 year deal with stupid wages and if he fails then we'll have him rotting away.

Also I don't care about Grabban, I don't want him.


The only other club he's had games at was Doncaster, and there could be any number of reasons for him not getting goals there - the main one probably being they are shit.

I've found the stats - goal every 169 minutes in the Championship -that's between both clubs Donny & Brum.

That's a decent record, even better if you just looked at what he did at Brum, which was the most recent.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/federico ... eler/61887



You do know Birmingham finished one place above Doncaster? They are as bad as eachother.

Yes his record last season was impressive - no doubt about it. But like Grabban, he has had one good season in the Championship and all of a sudden everyone seems to forget his record prior to that said season. He'd be a good loan option, not a permanent signing


Yes, Brum were shit too, but they scored a lot more goals ( 58 v 39)- Doncaster's poor overall scoring record suggest Macheda wasn't the only striker who struggled there. Billy Sharp only got 3 in 14(+1) there and the rest were


His record prior to that is worthless. 3 loan spells and 3 starts, as a kid, handful of starts for United and good haul of goals during that spell balances it out. That's why everyone is ignoring it - it's of very little relevance compared to a long spell of matches at this level.

I'd expect him to be on the fringe to start. Guerra will be the main man, with if they stay also Mason, Campbell, Maynard and Jones to compete with.


Still we'll have plenty of chance to see for oursleves when he gets here.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 11:03 am

This would be an unbelievable signing!

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 11:39 am

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.


Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.

I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.

I don't think scoring goals is his problem. From what i read about him,Fergie said he was the best finisher of the strikers in training. Apparently he knows how to find the back of the net but lacks something to his all around game and possibly didn't work hard enough on that after his initial success as a teenager.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 12:03 pm

Looks to me like a good signing and one very typical of Solskjaer might I add:) Possibly brilliant. Macheda is a composed finisher - a natural goalgetter. He may well become the club's top scorer this coming season.

If Macheda needs to get his head straight there is no remedy like dropping down a level. I wouldn't be too worried though. Solskjaer has worked with him before, and I am sure he has plenty of people at ManU he can talk to before signing him.

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 12:08 pm

bigboybazza wrote:Another ex manc FFS, his scouting network is up there with the best innit

Useless c**t

Great scouting network for Cornelius mate xxx

Re: Federico Macheda

Sun May 25, 2014 12:15 pm

Another ex Manc they said


Zaha, Fabio, Daehli and Eikrem are only Mancs and 2 of those have been good for us and one has the potential to be good

Lmao