Sat May 24, 2014 11:03 pm
Arrow wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Super Kev wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Super Kev wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:What a dreadful signing this would be. I hope this isn't going to be a trend from Ole, sign Man United's deadweight just because he coached them a few years back.
FFS. Did you not see how he played last season for Birmingham????
Did you not see how he played at, Qpr, Sampdoria, Stuttgart and Doncaster? Yeah, 3 goals in over 40 odd appearances. But oh well, least he did well at one of his clubs, right?
Yes, his most recent club. Shows he may well have found his form and clearly has the quality to play at this level.
Why couldn't he do it at Doncaster then? Both are equally as shit and he couldn't score for them either (and the loan was recent)
We really must be scrapping right at the bottom for muck like Macheda.
Maybe he just lost form at those clubs it happens and now he is finding it again, a free transfer and not massive wages got to be worth a shot
Sat May 24, 2014 11:33 pm
Sun May 25, 2014 12:11 am
Sun May 25, 2014 12:24 am
Sun May 25, 2014 12:32 am
Reza wrote:What a waste of time an wages
Sun May 25, 2014 2:43 am
Sun May 25, 2014 6:16 am
steve davies wrote:Got to love this forum. It seems we are trying to sign a youngster with potential on a free transfer but in reality the same people want us to spend millions on a new striker so they can then moan about tan putting us further in debt.
If he comes give him a chance.
With the service we were providing to our strikers last season van Persie would have struggled to get six goals
Sun May 25, 2014 6:27 am
Sun May 25, 2014 6:34 am
Sun May 25, 2014 7:17 am
Lawnmower wrote:Sometimes stats don't tell the whole stort. For example in his spells at Stuttgart, QPR and Sampdoria he had a total of 3 starts, so you can pretty much ignore those loans. In the Championship he's got a decent record at 2 struggling clubs and THAT is where WE are playing next season. He's young and free, also 6 ft so gives another physical presence. Maybe a sign Jones is leaving ? I'm open minded about this one.
Sun May 25, 2014 7:36 am
2blue2handle wrote:Mason 6 goals in 16 games on loan aged 23
Maynard 4 goals in 16 games on loan aged 27
Macheda 10 goals in 18 games on loan aged 22
Sun May 25, 2014 7:39 am
Double G wrote:Ole getting the bargains in good solid signing for me. Cant believe hes still only 22. Thought he was older than that. No money spent. Tans gonna live Ole it seems
Sun May 25, 2014 7:48 am
Sun May 25, 2014 8:22 am
LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.
Sun May 25, 2014 8:31 am
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.
Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.
I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.
Sun May 25, 2014 8:32 am
Sun May 25, 2014 8:44 am
Lawnmower wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.
Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.
I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.
Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.
Try these, this is more balanced.
Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.
Sun May 25, 2014 8:56 am
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Lawnmower wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.
Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.
I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.
Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.
Try these, this is more balanced.
Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.
Most of his goals for Birmingham have been from coming off of the bench I believe, so why couldn't he do it elsewhere? If Macheda was being brought in on loan I wouldn't really care, but we're probably going to stick him on a 3 year deal with stupid wages and if he fails then we'll have him rotting away.
Also I don't care about Grabban, I don't want him.
Sun May 25, 2014 9:06 am
Lawnmower wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.
Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.
I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.
Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.
Try these, this is more balanced.
Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.
Sun May 25, 2014 9:07 am
Lawnmower wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Lawnmower wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.
Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.
I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.
Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.
Try these, this is more balanced.
Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.
Most of his goals for Birmingham have been from coming off of the bench I believe, so why couldn't he do it elsewhere? If Macheda was being brought in on loan I wouldn't really care, but we're probably going to stick him on a 3 year deal with stupid wages and if he fails then we'll have him rotting away.
Also I don't care about Grabban, I don't want him.
The only other club he's had games at was Doncaster, and there could be any number of reasons for him not getting goals there - the main one probably being they are shit.
I've found the stats - goal every 169 minutes in the Championship -that's between both clubs Donny & Brum.
That's a decent record, even better if you just looked at what he did at Brum, which was the most recent.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/federico ... eler/61887
Sun May 25, 2014 9:48 am
Sun May 25, 2014 9:57 am
BobbyBlue wrote:You got to laugh at some people on here. Every playa we sign seems to be on massive wages. What they dont mention is the millions saved on these frees that more than cover any possible wage increase.
Sun May 25, 2014 10:11 am
Sun May 25, 2014 10:48 am
Sun May 25, 2014 11:03 am
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Lawnmower wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:Lawnmower wrote:llandaffbluebird1 wrote:LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.
Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.
I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.
Those stats are misleading. Half those appearances were as a sub - 5,10, 15 mins here and there.
he only made 3 starts at sampdoria, QPR and Stuttgart.
Try these, this is more balanced.
Last season 13 goals in 22 starts and 11 subs appearances. That's maybe 2100-2200 minutes of football - goal every 160-170 minutes. Doesn't seem a bad record for a young striker at struggling clubs. Does he take penalties ? If not then he's got nearly as many as Grabban from open play in far far less appearances and is younger - and free.
Most of his goals for Birmingham have been from coming off of the bench I believe, so why couldn't he do it elsewhere? If Macheda was being brought in on loan I wouldn't really care, but we're probably going to stick him on a 3 year deal with stupid wages and if he fails then we'll have him rotting away.
Also I don't care about Grabban, I don't want him.
The only other club he's had games at was Doncaster, and there could be any number of reasons for him not getting goals there - the main one probably being they are shit.
I've found the stats - goal every 169 minutes in the Championship -that's between both clubs Donny & Brum.
That's a decent record, even better if you just looked at what he did at Brum, which was the most recent.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/federico ... eler/61887
You do know Birmingham finished one place above Doncaster? They are as bad as eachother.
Yes his record last season was impressive - no doubt about it. But like Grabban, he has had one good season in the Championship and all of a sudden everyone seems to forget his record prior to that said season. He'd be a good loan option, not a permanent signing
Sun May 25, 2014 11:03 am
Sun May 25, 2014 11:39 am
llandaffbluebird1 wrote:LonCar wrote:You are being a bit harsh, he is only 22 years old. He started well and was considered a great talent at Manu. Then he lost form but seems to have recaptured some of that of late and he is young enough that he can still improve.
Harsh or realistic? 13 goals in nearly 60 appearances isn't good enough. I don't care what he was considered as 6 years ago, now he is considered a failure of a striker who can't score.
I'll back him when he plays for us but, until he comes here and starts scoring I will be sceptical about him.
Sun May 25, 2014 12:03 pm
Sun May 25, 2014 12:08 pm
bigboybazza wrote:Another ex manc FFS, his scouting network is up there with the best innit
Useless c**t
Sun May 25, 2014 12:15 pm