' WILL VINCENT TAN ADMIT HE WAS WRONG ? '

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Let's have it then Carl, what did you ask Annis to confirm???? All this speculation. Cards on the table time!!!


Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl, with respect... Are you 100% saying that there was no financially misuse by MM or Moody in any capacity whatsoever

Let's have it then Carl, what did you ask Annis to confirm???? All this speculation. Cards on the table time!!!

Last edited by blue lagoon on Sat May 24, 2014 8:25 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I want to kill myself

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl if you gave a contract out to a company for 10 million 5 weeks after there was a tender for 2million in the offering your boss would sack you and certainly look into it to see if you were taking a bung.

And if there was a bung the company would sue NOT accept an apology.

I don't believe there was a bung for one minute ian I just believe the Cornelius transfer was a disaster for everyone concerned for the football club.
Malky did himself no favours in saying that he was one for the future which I believe was a lie on his part.
If he was one for the future where on earth did Malky think the goals were going to come from to keep us up.

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl if you gave a contract out to a company for 10 million 5 weeks after there was a tender for 2million in the offering your boss would sack you and certainly look into it to see if you were taking a bung.

Steve, looking into whether someone took a bung and actually proving they took a bung are two very different scenarios.

Are you accusing Malky and Moody of taking bungs or do you know/are aware of them taking bungs ?

I want to kill myself

Dont, it wont help!

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Let's be honest Carl your sources are not always right

Depends which source tells me, on this one I am 100% convinced the info is correct and for a senior player to confirm it is more than enough for me.

He didn't make a mistake so why should be admit he's wrong? Tan got it right one again!

The fact we are playing championship football again tells me different. The fact we were destined to play championship football before the last game o fthe season tells me different. The fact we started talking about championship football after a few games of Oles appointment tells me different.

It was Tans doing in sacking Mackay and the buck stops with him.

The fact malky and moody had to apologise tells everyone different.
The fact malky and moody wasted £50mill tells everyone different.
Malky and moody sowed the seed's of relegation, the buck stops with those two.

Once again what did Malky apologise for?
£50 million....I would say we are going ot get close enough our money back for Medel and Caulker. All of a sudden the £50 million is not so high now. I'll give you Acorn being a waste of money...what was it £5m...so what about the remaining £45m?
M&M sowed the seed......why were we in a relegation place when they got sacked?

They apologised for something, who would publicly apologise if they've done nothing wrong?
£50 mill on a championship side,malky was out of his depth.Tan had the pair of them by the bollocks and you,carl and annis know it.

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl, with respect... Are you 100% saying that there was no financially misuse by MM or Moody in any capacity whatsoever

I am categorically saying they were not on the take.

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl if you gave a contract out to a company for 10 million 5 weeks after there was a tender for 2million in the offering your boss would sack you and certainly look into it to see if you were taking a bung.

Steve, looking into whether someone took a bung and actually proving they took a bung are two very different scenarios.

Are you accusing Malky and Moody of taking bungs or do you know/are aware of them taking bungs ?

See my answer to ian Carl I have always maintained Malky never took a bung I just think his three stage dossier has turned out to be totally unreliable and his inability to solve the striker problem over a number of transfer windows cost us dear.

He didn't make a mistake so why should be admit he's wrong? Tan got it right one again!

The fact we are playing championship football again tells me different. The fact we were destined to play championship football before the last game o fthe season tells me different. The fact we started talking about championship football after a few games of Oles appointment tells me different.

It was Tans doing in sacking Mackay and the buck stops with him.

The fact malky and moody had to apologise tells everyone different.
The fact malky and moody wasted £50mill tells everyone different.
Malky and moody sowed the seed's of relegation, the buck stops with those two.

Once again what did Malky apologise for?
£50 million....I would say we are going ot get close enough our money back for Medel and Caulker. All of a sudden the £50 million is not so high now. I'll give you Acorn being a waste of money...what was it £5m...so what about the remaining £45m?
M&M sowed the seed......why were we in a relegation place when they got sacked?

They apologised for something, who would publicly apologise if they've done nothing wrong?
£50 mill on a championship side,malky was out of his depth.Tan had the pair of them by the bollocks and you,carl and annis know it.

They did do something wrong but it was not financial.

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Spot on mister

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl if you gave a contract out to a company for 10 million 5 weeks after there was a tender for 2million in the offering your boss would sack you and certainly look into it to see if you were taking a bung.

Steve, looking into whether someone took a bung and actually proving they took a bung are two very different scenarios.

Are you accusing Malky and Moody of taking bungs or do you know/are aware of them taking bungs ?

See my answer to ian Carl I have always maintained Malky never took a bung I just think his three stage dossier has turned out to be totally unreliable and his inability to solve the striker problem over a number of transfer windows cost us dear.

Steve, I saw your answer after I posted my question.

It is difficult to argue against the striker issue and I raised concerns in Malky's first season regarding the dossier process but your post regarding bungs is dangerous ground as you do insinuate that he and moody were guilty of taking bungs and your pits is very misleading.

My criticism of Malky is on field problems, I also think he was a manipulator of the press, but being involved in any financial wrong doing I would find that very difficult to believe.

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Spot on mister

BadBeatPete, or whatever username you are using now of your many, he is not spot on at all.

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl if you gave a contract out to a company for 10 million 5 weeks after there was a tender for 2million in the offering your boss would sack you and certainly look into it to see if you were taking a bung.

And if there was a bung the company would sue NOT accept an apology.

I don't believe there was a bung for one minute ian I just believe the Cornelius transfer was a disaster for everyone concerned for the football club.
Malky did himself no favours in saying that he was one for the future which I believe was a lie on his part.
If he was one for the future where on earth did Malky think the goals were going to come from to keep us up.

I'm with you on this one Steve.

I saw right through that comment from Malky. You could see or feel he was backtracking on that comment. Acorn was Malkys downfall no getting away from that.

I don't understand how we came around to offering him so much. I dont believe there was backhanders. So how come it was so much, surely no other club thought he was worth that.

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Spot on mister

BadBeatPete, or whatever username you are using now of your many, he is not spot on at all.

Petebad speate. Yes he is. You always build up storys like this instead of posting some reliable sources for everyone to rely on.
I never believed anyone took any bungs, but this is not helping to prove anything. If you really want to put it to rest, then do it!

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl if you gave a contract out to a company for 10 million 5 weeks after there was a tender for 2million in the offering your boss would sack you and certainly look into it to see if you were taking a bung.

Steve, looking into whether someone took a bung and actually proving they took a bung are two very different scenarios.

Are you accusing Malky and Moody of taking bungs or do you know/are aware of them taking bungs ?

See my answer to ian Carl I have always maintained Malky never took a bung I just think his three stage dossier has turned out to be totally unreliable and his inability to solve the striker problem over a number of transfer windows cost us dear.

Steve, I saw your answer after I posted my question.

It is difficult to argue against the striker issue and I raised concerns in Malky's first season regarding the dossier process but your post regarding bungs is dangerous ground as you do insinuate that he and moody were guilty of taking bungs and your pits is very misleading.

I do not insinuate that they took a bung at all Carl I am saying as I have always said that they paid 8 million euros more for Cornelius than was needed. You would rightly expect Vincent tan to expect an answer as to how that happened hence the reference to if you awarded a contract for 8 million more to a contractor your boss would investigate.
You say it's not financial the reasons they get sacked I believe it's everything to do with the summer window that they got sacked. The only value for money signing was caulker.

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl, with respect... Are you 100% saying that there was no financially misuse by MM or Moody in any capacity whatsoever

I am categorically saying they were not on the take.

That was a reply of a politician

Carl, I think (even as a Jack) I speak for most here when I say either post what the reason you have been told was or STFU

Carl, I think (even as a Jack) I speak for most here when I say either post what the reason you have been told was or STFU

You can add that if we were still playing in blue Carl and annis would have wanted Malky hung drawn and quartered for his transfer dealings in the summer

Well this post didn't get the backing it hoped for. Tan should be vilified for the rebrand but let's not let it blinker us and blame him for all that's wrong with the world

It happened, its over, roll on the next season

100% behind the team AND Ole.

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Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl if you gave a contract out to a company for 10 million 5 weeks after there was a tender for 2million in the offering your boss would sack you and certainly look into it to see if you were taking a bung.

Steve, looking into whether someone took a bung and actually proving they took a bung are two very different scenarios.

Are you accusing Malky and Moody of taking bungs or do you know/are aware of them taking bungs ?

See my answer to ian Carl I have always maintained Malky never took a bung I just think his three stage dossier has turned out to be totally unreliable and his inability to solve the striker problem over a number of transfer windows cost us dear.

Steve, I saw your answer after I posted my question.

It is difficult to argue against the striker issue and I raised concerns in Malky's first season regarding the dossier process but your post regarding bungs is dangerous ground as you do insinuate that he and moody were guilty of taking bungs and your pits is very misleading.

I do not insinuate that they took a bung at all Carl I am saying as I have always said that they paid 8 million euros more for Cornelius than was needed. You would rightly expect Vincent tan to expect an answer as to how that happened hence the reference to if you awarded a contract for 8 million more to a contractor your boss would investigate.
You say it's not financial the reasons they get sacked I believe it's everything to do with the summer window that they got sacked. The only value for money signing was caulker.

I am glad we both agree that we believe that there was no bungs or backhanders involved.

On your second point regarding the Cornelius transfer, it is a fair and reasoned argument and an owner has every right to question his managers decision on paying such an amount for a player who played very little game time and when he did Cornelius did not look value for money.

But then who is the man ultimately responsible for signing or sanctioning such moves, surely that must be the man at the top.

If the structure is wrong within the club, and it most certainly us, then that us the problem of the owner to rectify.

Even the worlds best managers have made signings which proved costly mistakes both financially and playing wise, Malky won't be the last.

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Spot on mister

BadBeatPete, or whatever username you are using now of your many, he is not spot on at all.

I disagree Carl. I posted this on the Bellamy thread last night or this morning and hey presto we then have this 'masterpiece' tonight. I must be able to see the future or something.

Carl, I think (even as a Jack) I speak for most here when I say either post what the reason you have been told was or STFU

NJ, as a jack why not stay off topics that should have no concern to you

I was told and was asked to keep it off here for the time being but it won't stop me from rubbishing the rumours of Malky or Moody taking backhanders.

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Let's be honest Carl your sources are not always right

Depends which source tells me, on this one I am 100% convinced the info is correct and for a senior player to confirm it is more than enough for me.

I think you need to say what has been said by your source and Bellamy, if you don't why should people believe you. I do find it strange for Bellamy to confirm anything to a fan in an airport

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl if you gave a contract out to a company for 10 million 5 weeks after there was a tender for 2million in the offering your boss would sack you and certainly look into it to see if you were taking a bung.

Steve, looking into whether someone took a bung and actually proving they took a bung are two very different scenarios.

Are you accusing Malky and Moody of taking bungs or do you know/are aware of them taking bungs ?

See my answer to ian Carl I have always maintained Malky never took a bung I just think his three stage dossier has turned out to be totally unreliable and his inability to solve the striker problem over a number of transfer windows cost us dear.

Steve, I saw your answer after I posted my question.

It is difficult to argue against the striker issue and I raised concerns in Malky's first season regarding the dossier process but your post regarding bungs is dangerous ground as you do insinuate that he and moody were guilty of taking bungs and your pits is very misleading.

I do not insinuate that they took a bung at all Carl I am saying as I have always said that they paid 8 million euros more for Cornelius than was needed. You would rightly expect Vincent tan to expect an answer as to how that happened hence the reference to if you awarded a contract for 8 million more to a contractor your boss would investigate.
You say it's not financial the reasons they get sacked I believe it's everything to do with the summer window that they got sacked. The only value for money signing was caulker.

I am glad we both agree that we believe that there was no bungs or backhanders involved.

On your second point regarding the Cornelius transfer, it is a fair and reasoned argument and an owner has every right to question his managers decision on paying such an amount for a player who played very little game time and when he did Cornelius did not look value for money.

But then who is the man ultimately responsible for signing or sanctioning such moves, surely that must be the man at the top.

If the structure is wrong within the club, and it most certainly us, then that us the problem of the owner to rectify.

Even the worlds best managers have made signings which proved costly mistakes both financially and playing wise, Malky won't be the last.

Sporting governance is/has an issue in Wales, I know I sit on an NGB panel. City identified the problems and have put measures in place to correct it. Regardless, people at 'the top' can often sanction decisions based on the work of their staff. Unfortunately sometimes you trust staff and they let you down fantastically, which it seems Moody and Malky have done. Depends on what other things were involved but sometimes that alone can be a disciplinary or sackable offence.

Carl, I think (even as a Jack) I speak for most here when I say either post what the reason you have been told was or STFU

NJ, as a jack why not stay off topics that should have no concern to you

I was told and was asked to keep it off here for the time being but it won't stop me from rubbishing the rumours of Malky or Moody taking backhanders.

All opinions welcome???? General footballing forum with people from numerous teams????

Carl, I think (even as a Jack) I speak for most here when I say either post what the reason you have been told was or STFU

The sad thing is as has been shown by the numerous replies today, not only by myself now but countless others. Everyone is waking up to Carl and Annis' tactics and nobody is falling for it anymore. This agenda is just becoming sadder and sadder

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Spot on mister

BadBeatPete, or whatever username you are using now of your many, he is not spot on at all.

I disagree Carl. I posted this on the Bellamy thread last night or this morning and hey presto we then have this 'masterpiece' tonight. I must be able to see the future or something.

You posted on a thread where I stated Annis' opinion of Bellamy as a person has changed, considering Annis has been critical of Bellamy and his attitude recently I thought Annis was big enough to admit he got it wrong with his opinion of the player's attitude.

But on a thread where Annis asks 'Will Tan admit he was wrong?', Which incidentally Annis maintains his stance on what Tan has done to this club and is continuing to do to this club, you think you are predicting the future

Will someone first tell me the full story on malky and moody. If they were indeed on the take VT got it right!!Annis must know after his bellamy chat??????

Wez, I got told from a very good source last week the reason why Malky and Moody were sacked and it was not because they were on the take.

Annis asked Bellamy about what I told him and Bellamy confirmed it as correct.

Neither were 'on the take'.

Carl if you gave a contract out to a company for 10 million 5 weeks after there was a tender for 2million in the offering your boss would sack you and certainly look into it to see if you were taking a bung.

Steve, looking into whether someone took a bung and actually proving they took a bung are two very different scenarios.

Are you accusing Malky and Moody of taking bungs or do you know/are aware of them taking bungs ?

See my answer to ian Carl I have always maintained Malky never took a bung I just think his three stage dossier has turned out to be totally unreliable and his inability to solve the striker problem over a number of transfer windows cost us dear.

Steve, I saw your answer after I posted my question.

It is difficult to argue against the striker issue and I raised concerns in Malky's first season regarding the dossier process but your post regarding bungs is dangerous ground as you do insinuate that he and moody were guilty of taking bungs and your pits is very misleading.

I do not insinuate that they took a bung at all Carl I am saying as I have always said that they paid 8 million euros more for Cornelius than was needed. You would rightly expect Vincent tan to expect an answer as to how that happened hence the reference to if you awarded a contract for 8 million more to a contractor your boss would investigate.
You say it's not financial the reasons they get sacked I believe it's everything to do with the summer window that they got sacked. The only value for money signing was caulker.

I am glad we both agree that we believe that there was no bungs or backhanders involved.

On your second point regarding the Cornelius transfer, it is a fair and reasoned argument and an owner has every right to question his managers decision on paying such an amount for a player who played very little game time and when he did Cornelius did not look value for money.

But then who is the man ultimately responsible for signing or sanctioning such moves, surely that must be the man at the top.

If the structure is wrong within the club, and it most certainly us, then that us the problem of the owner to rectify.

Even the worlds best managers have made signings which proved costly mistakes both financially and playing wise, Malky won't be the last.

As you seem to try and lay the blame at whoever signed off the transfer fee, can I ask what you or Annis would have said if Tan had stopped the Cornelius deal citing the player wasnt worth it. Judging by your post surely you would agree as he is the man who signs them off.....you wouldnt claim he would be interfering now.......hmmmmmmm