Annis has had a change of heart

Nothing like a bit of spice in a thread

Sitting in Bristol Airport Annis has spent time chatting with Craig Bellamy.

Annis' opinion of Bellamy has changed after their chat about all things Cardiff City.

Seems Annis has got it wrong about Bellamy and his attitude and has had his eyes opened by many things Craig said.

Regarding Malky it seems Annis is even more determined to defend our ex manager and was stunned how much Brlkamy respected Malky and pleased Annis.

hmmmmm

Hmmmm indeed.

Annis' eyes have been opened regarding Bellamy but listening to what was said he has been proved correct about Malky.

I doubt it about Malky otherwise the events of the other week wouldn't happened. If Bellamy is willing to tell him then why not put it out here for us all to make it minds up?

Also, makes you wonder what else he had wrong. Tan?

Certainly not wrong about Tan.

I very much doubt Annis will put on here what was said between the pair of them but Bellamy was, as always, straight talking.

Pointless thread then surely.

Well the fact he went to Florida around the Stoke game can't be disputed as I have seen the picture of him there!

I imagine it was a very interesting conversation Annis!

Would love to know Bellamys feelings about the time he called us all fuckin wankers....

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

I cant quite work you out. You snipe and criticise yet you are quite happy to use the forum for your little advertisement at the foot of every post you make.

Nothin personal but feels hypocritical to me.

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

I cant quite work you out. You snipe and criticise yet you are quite happy to use the forum for your little advertisement at the foot of every post you make.

Nothin personal but feels hypocritical to me.

Spot on

Its not like there is any story here, so why people criticize speculations on the motives is a bit strange imo

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Annis has obviously spoken to Bellers and there has been a conversation that has changed Annis' views on Craig as a person and I can't fault that, as I have also had occasion to speak to Craig through mutual acquaintances and Craig isn't the monster that one or two people would have you believe. He certainly isn't daft either, but like all of us, he (Craig) may have had the "odd moment" for which he has paid the price before moving on

Both Annis and Craig's views are pretty forthright and people have the choice to agree or disagree with them, as many of the members on the Forum (including you) do. It's all about having a prerogative to do so and I will defend that (within offensive and/or litigative boundaries, of course)

I personally don't believe Annis (or anyone else for that matter) should divulge in posting private conversations just to sate the appetite of individuals who will twist and turn (as in this thread) to suit their own agendas

It could be argued, I guess, that Annis and/or Carl "started it" with the OP, but it is also worth considering (and this my view on this particular thread) that Annis has simply held his hands up and said "Hey, met Craig Bellamy at the airport today, had a long conversation and came away with a totally different view of the man himself"

He (Annis) also recently stated that he had been "pleasantly surprised" at how he was received by Vincent Tan at club dinner. That must have taken some balls, given Annis' publicly stated views on what he considers Tan has done to our club. How many others would have done the same??

Cor blimey! Imagine someone being honest enough to admit they may have "got it wrong"! Whatever next??

I think others (as usual) have made far more of this than needed to be made, but that's just my considered opinion, of course

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

I cant quite work you out. You snipe and criticise yet you are quite happy to use the forum for your little advertisement at the foot of every post you make.

Nothin personal but feels hypocritical to me.

Spot on

Nope, don't get you. There's a signature space and a few years back I brought out an album. Other people who are quote outspoken also use the line to publicise things. Nothing wrong with that.

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

I cant quite work you out. You snipe and criticise yet you are quite happy to use the forum for your little advertisement at the foot of every post you make.

Nothin personal but feels hypocritical to me.

Well said.

He also questions other members regularly, yet when others do it to him. He labels it as trolling.

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Annis has obviously spoken to Bellers and there has been a conversation that has changed Annis' views on Craig as a person and I can't fault that, as I have also had occasion to speak to Craig through mutual acquaintances and Craig isn't the monster that one or two people would have you believe. He certainly isn't daft either, but like all of us, he (Craig) may have had the "odd moment" for which he has paid the price before moving on

Both Annis and Craig's views are pretty forthright and people have the choice to agree or disagree with them, as many of the members on the Forum (including you) do. It's all about having a prerogative to do so and I will defend that (within offensive and/or litigative boundaries, of course)

I personally don't believe Annis (or anyone else for that matter) should divulge in posting private conversations just to sate the appetite of individuals who will twist and turn (as in this thread) to suit their own agendas

It could be argued, I guess, that Annis and/or Carl "started it" with the OP, but it is also worth considering (and this my view on this particular thread) that Annis has simply held his hands up and said "Hey, met Craig Bellamy at the airport today, had a long conversation and came away with a totally different view of the man himself"

He (Annis) also recently stated that he had been "pleasantly surprised" at how he was received by Vincent Tan at club dinner. That must have taken some balls, given Annis' publicly stated views on what he considers Tan has done to our club. How many others would have done the same??

Cor blimey! Imagine someone being honest enough to admit they may have "got it wrong"! Whatever next??

I think others (as usual) have made far more of this than needed to be made, but that's just my considered opinion, of course

With all due respect sven it's a game and he's playing the long one. plenty of people can see through it not just me. If it's private then keep it private, if you are going to make it public then make it public and let us make our own minds up. But this is a game of being suggestive in order to give annis' and Carl's views on Tan more credence, nothing more. The fact that carl had posted it rather than annis just serves to give it that little bit more sway rather than annis doing it himself.

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

I cant quite work you out. You snipe and criticise yet you are quite happy to use the forum for your little advertisement at the foot of every post you make.

Nothin personal but feels hypocritical to me.

Spot on

Nope, don't get you. There's a signature space and a few years back I brought out an album. Other people who are quote outspoken also use the line to publicise things. Nothing wrong with that.

Isn't it "trial and error"?

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

I cant quite work you out. You snipe and criticise yet you are quite happy to use the forum for your little advertisement at the foot of every post you make.

Nothin personal but feels hypocritical to me.

Well said.

He also questions other members regularly, yet when others do it to him. He labels it as trolling.

see you've turned your direction back to me after harassing someone else For the part few days. I was starting to get jealous.

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

I cant quite work you out. You snipe and criticise yet you are quite happy to use the forum for your little advertisement at the foot of every post you make.

Nothin personal but feels hypocritical to me.

Well said.

He also questions other members regularly, yet when others do it to him. He labels it as trolling.

Are you trying to say you are not a troll? Any evidence on that? A quote maybe or a link?

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

I cant quite work you out. You snipe and criticise yet you are quite happy to use the forum for your little advertisement at the foot of every post you make.

Nothin personal but feels hypocritical to me.

Spot on

Nope, don't get you. There's a signature space and a few years back I brought out an album. Other people who are quote outspoken also use the line to publicise things. Nothing wrong with that.

Isn't it "trial and error"?

Lol, ooopppps

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Annis has obviously spoken to Bellers and there has been a conversation that has changed Annis' views on Craig as a person and I can't fault that, as I have also had occasion to speak to Craig through mutual acquaintances and Craig isn't the monster that one or two people would have you believe. He certainly isn't daft either, but like all of us, he (Craig) may have had the "odd moment" for which he has paid the price before moving on

Both Annis and Craig's views are pretty forthright and people have the choice to agree or disagree with them, as many of the members on the Forum (including you) do. It's all about having a prerogative to do so and I will defend that (within offensive and/or litigative boundaries, of course)

I personally don't believe Annis (or anyone else for that matter) should divulge in posting private conversations just to sate the appetite of individuals who will twist and turn (as in this thread) to suit their own agendas

It could be argued, I guess, that Annis and/or Carl "started it" with the OP, but it is also worth considering (and this my view on this particular thread) that Annis has simply held his hands up and said "Hey, met Craig Bellamy at the airport today, had a long conversation and came away with a totally different view of the man himself"

He (Annis) also recently stated that he had been "pleasantly surprised" at how he was received by Vincent Tan at club dinner. That must have taken some balls, given Annis' publicly stated views on what he considers Tan has done to our club. How many others would have done the same??

Cor blimey! Imagine someone being honest enough to admit they may have "got it wrong"! Whatever next??

I think others (as usual) have made far more of this than needed to be made, but that's just my considered opinion, of course

I agree with what you say however if you only put out a part story and then just tease your readership with the rest then you leave yourself open to ridicule.Up to now this has been the M.O. of Annis and Carl to a lesser degree.

There's another thing to;

annis knows that Tan has evidence on Malky and Moody and I also believe he knows what that evidence is and that is quite weighty. But he isn't telling you all that is he?

I cant quite work you out. You snipe and criticise yet you are quite happy to use the forum for your little advertisement at the foot of every post you make.

Nothin personal but feels hypocritical to me.

Spot on

Nope, don't get you. There's a signature space and a few years back I brought out an album. Other people who are quote outspoken also use the line to publicise things. Nothing wrong with that.

Isn't it "trial and error"?

Lol, ooopppps

Sitting in Bristol Airport Annis has spent time chatting with Craig Bellamy.

Annis' opinion of Bellamy has changed after their chat about all things Cardiff City.

Seems Annis has got it wrong about Bellamy and his attitude and has had his eyes opened by many things Craig said.

Regarding Malky it seems Annis is even more determined to defend our ex manager and was stunned how much Brlkamy respected Malky and pleased Annis.

hmmmmm

Hmmmm indeed.

Annis' eyes have been opened regarding Bellamy but listening to what was said he has been proved correct about Malky.

I doubt it about Malky otherwise the events of the other week wouldn't happened. If Bellamy is willing to tell him then why not put it out here for us all to make it minds up?

Also, makes you wonder what else he had wrong. Tan?

When dealing with anyone from S.E. Asia it all about 'saving face' and they will go to extremes to achieve a position which reflects a positive outcome. Therefore, when contracts are in place gagging orders are often included in the termination of the contracts, plus apologies to ensure payment of the contracts. This would explain why certain things that Bellers or Malky have said in private conversation have to remain private. Furthermore, I believe that the main part of this thread is that Annis is apologising for previous remarks about Bellers attitude towards CCFC. I assume that Carl has written the post as Annis is travelling and phoned him. If I am right in my assumptions then I think Annis deserves a bit of praise for his apology, as very few people are willing to admit they are wrong yet alone publicise the fact with an apology.

popeye. It's not an apology, is a not so subtle bellamy has confirmed my thoughts on tan and malky thread

popeye. It's not an apology, is a not so subtle bellamy has confirmed my thoughts on tan and malky thread

Sitting in Bristol Airport Annis has spent time chatting with Craig Bellamy.

Annis' opinion of Bellamy has changed after their chat about all things Cardiff City.

Seems Annis has got it wrong about Bellamy and his attitude and has had his eyes opened by many things Craig said.

Regarding Malky it seems Annis is even more determined to defend our ex manager and was stunned how much Brlkamy respected Malky and pleased Annis.

Without stating what he said then its just gossip. Bellamy's privacy should be respected. This kiss and tell means nothing....basically its shit stirring to back someone's agenda with no facts.

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Annis has obviously spoken to Bellers and there has been a conversation that has changed Annis' views on Craig as a person and I can't fault that, as I have also had occasion to speak to Craig through mutual acquaintances and Craig isn't the monster that one or two people would have you believe. He certainly isn't daft either, but like all of us, he (Craig) may have had the "odd moment" for which he has paid the price before moving on

Both Annis and Craig's views are pretty forthright and people have the choice to agree or disagree with them, as many of the members on the Forum (including you) do. It's all about having a prerogative to do so and I will defend that (within offensive and/or litigative boundaries, of course)

I personally don't believe Annis (or anyone else for that matter) should divulge in posting private conversations just to sate the appetite of individuals who will twist and turn (as in this thread) to suit their own agendas

It could be argued, I guess, that Annis and/or Carl "started it" with the OP, but it is also worth considering (and this my view on this particular thread) that Annis has simply held his hands up and said "Hey, met Craig Bellamy at the airport today, had a long conversation and came away with a totally different view of the man himself"

He (Annis) also recently stated that he had been "pleasantly surprised" at how he was received by Vincent Tan at club dinner. That must have taken some balls, given Annis' publicly stated views on what he considers Tan has done to our club. How many others would have done the same??

Cor blimey! Imagine someone being honest enough to admit they may have "got it wrong"! Whatever next??

I think others (as usual) have made far more of this than needed to be made, but that's just my considered opinion, of course

I agree with what you say however if you only put out a part story and then just tease your readership with the rest then you leave yourself open to ridicule.Up to now this has been the M.O. of Annis and Carl to a lesser degree.

Yes, that may well be, but if that is the case then the 'plan' works, doesn't it??

As Annis will tell you, he only "puts it out there" and it's up to others to react or comment as they see fit

In this case, he admitted to having a conversation with Bellers (fair enough) and that he had changed his views on the man himself (fair enough) and also mentioned that he had been told some things that either "surprised or confirmed" things he had been told previously (fair enough) but also stated that part of those conversations were "private" and would not be put out into the public domain at this time (fair enough)

Not too much to pick holes in there IMHO, but I would suggest that anything discussed has already been debated on this Forum many times in recent times

On a forum where information is King and gossip/rumour are the order of the day, then all I can say is that the more inquisitive and mischievous amongst our members are (as usual) free to create their own versions of events and twist to whatever agendas they are following

If, as some suggest, Annis does the same, then all I can say is "Touche!"

Malky still spunked all our money no matter what Bellamy said in an airport

its a simple case of people who backed malky to the hilt over his dispute with tan going into defense mode.
we had the wait until the truth comes out in court statements for weeks leading up to the big climbdown by malky and moody.
at the end of the day the fans used malky against tan as did malky use the fans against tan in the same way.
there is no smoke without fire and the fact that malky was overlooked for the norwich job speaks volumes about where malkys credibility is at the moment.
having said that i dont believe malky has done anything illegal but the cornelius and brayford transfers have damaged his stock with club chairmen.
you could add amandorin or whatever his name was to that list. malkys last signing who played a couple of development games but is contracted until 2017

All this Hmmmm shit don't cut it anymore.

Boring isn't it. If your not going to say the full story why post it

Because you can see some have already fallen for it and it will give a bit more credence to the next thing he puts out which could be even worse. But there will be that suggestion now that if bellers talked to him it musty be true.

Annis has obviously spoken to Bellers and there has been a conversation that has changed Annis' views on Craig as a person and I can't fault that, as I have also had occasion to speak to Craig through mutual acquaintances and Craig isn't the monster that one or two people would have you believe. He certainly isn't daft either, but like all of us, he (Craig) may have had the "odd moment" for which he has paid the price before moving on

Both Annis and Craig's views are pretty forthright and people have the choice to agree or disagree with them, as many of the members on the Forum (including you) do. It's all about having a prerogative to do so and I will defend that (within offensive and/or litigative boundaries, of course)

I personally don't believe Annis (or anyone else for that matter) should divulge in posting private conversations just to sate the appetite of individuals who will twist and turn (as in this thread) to suit their own agendas

It could be argued, I guess, that Annis and/or Carl "started it" with the OP, but it is also worth considering (and this my view on this particular thread) that Annis has simply held his hands up and said "Hey, met Craig Bellamy at the airport today, had a long conversation and came away with a totally different view of the man himself"

He (Annis) also recently stated that he had been "pleasantly surprised" at how he was received by Vincent Tan at club dinner. That must have taken some balls, given Annis' publicly stated views on what he considers Tan has done to our club. How many others would have done the same??

Cor blimey! Imagine someone being honest enough to admit they may have "got it wrong"! Whatever next??

I think others (as usual) have made far more of this than needed to be made, but that's just my considered opinion, of course

Why the need for 'Bellamy had massive respect for Malky' and things like that if he's not going to share it. Just say, 'I met Bellamy yesterday and he completely changed my mind about him, top bloke' or something similar