UKIP were right

Not left wing proper. Ganda, read Ukip's policies... Very worrying.

I campaigned for most of them so I think I know whats left wing propaganda and what isn't

Watching Question Time and they have the deputy chairman, embarrassing himself big time.. linking every topic to immigration. Imagine them running the UK, once they sort out immigration where do we go from there? They don't even know themselves.

They have a whole set of policies .....

Disagree James, the other members involved can't go a minute without putting immigration to every situation their going to look to change, their embarrassing and comedy gold.

Really staggering how people actually get drawn in and have to listen to what they got to say.

Thats not true. If anything, its not immigration they always mention but the EU and withdrawal from it.

That's because a lot of other areas are tied into the EU or regulated by EU regulations. Brownie knows all about that stuff and getting things passed as Acts of Parliament - HoC's to the HoL's etc. then back if changes are made and so on.

The economy - EU has massive part to play in it
Immigration - EU has massive part to play in it
Social aspects of our life - EU has a lot to play in it
Climate and energy - EU has a lot to play in it

UKIP's policies are behind a fence at the moment. UKIP's policies are policies set for a Britain free from the EU so of course they're always going to say 'we need to leave the EU to do this....' because its true. They haven't got any pro EU policies as its not what they stand for.

The notion their party members always mention immigration is rubbish. They have a minority of idiots who've come out with tripe just like every other party. Nobody mentions the massive list of Labour/Tories who've been done do they?

http://tinyurl.com/ovrjd97

Nobody mentions those do they? Its UKIP are racist OMG how dare they wish to control our borders like countries like Canada and Australia - they hate Romanians how will I live any more? The whole of the UK is going to disintegrate into a cloud of ash if you vote for these. It's getting rather boring.

Keep voting Labour if you're happy to ignore the stuff in that link and you still haven't got over Thatcher.
Keep voting Tories if you're happy to ignore the stuff in that link and Labours economic mess
Keep voting Lib Dems if being lied too about tuition fees is your cup of tea and you wish to vote in a party who's leader, whilst a liberal, wanted to intervene in Syria in terms of military - absolute clown of a human being - disgrace

What have all three of them got in common? Ed Miliband, Nick Clegg and David Cameron? Never done a real days work in their life in terms of an actual career outside politics - research - all academic based, a few things here and there then politics - disgusting career politicians out of touch with the real world.

The only other credible party left are the Greens. Some strange policies and left wing socialists of which capitalists will disagree with but at least they stand by what they say and as a democratic I appreciate their contribution to the current political set up giving people a choice. Turning down donations because they're from people who they don't support or agree with because what they stand for is more important.

The 3 main parties - Cons, Labour, Lib Dems - their 3 leaders - all of them are scum.

I'm sorry but I honestly think UKIP would f**k this country up even more than these fuckwit Tories have. Oh sorry and the lib dems.

Nice surge there. Just as well we've got all the resources to provide for them. No national debt, no full schools, no traffic congestion, no unemployment and so forth.

Anyone else love British utopia?

LOL

you are stupid arent you

thats not the immigration chart thats a work registration, so since the work restrictions on bulgarians and romanians were lifted surprisingly alot of bulgarians and romanians registered to work.

however what your chart shows is not the immigration into our country.




What UKIP stated was a huge increase in immigration that has since been proved not to be true infact migration from Romania has gone down

Jonny, you are an absolute clown. I read this board everyday, but have never posted. An idiot like you who thinks they know it all has finally made me post...

"While immigration from the rest of the world FELL by 11,000 in the year ending December 2013 compared to the year before, it ROSE by 43,000 from EU countries.

The figures from the Office for National Statistics also showed that an upsurge in new arrivals from Romania and Bulgaria was already in full swing in 2013 as citizens of those countries got ready for Britain to throw open its labour market. Migration from the two countries was 23,000 in 2013, compared to just 9,000 the year before.

The number of national insurance numbers issued to Romanians in the year ending March 2014 was 47,000, UP by 29,000 on the year before."

Now do the maths on immigration... Rest of the world = -11,000... EU countries = +43,000... Total equals a grand total of +32,000... Get your facts right before claiming you know everything.

Here here barnett here f*cking here

Nice surge there. Just as well we've got all the resources to provide for them. No national debt, no full schools, no traffic congestion, no unemployment and so forth.

Anyone else love British utopia?

LOL

you are stupid arent you

thats not the immigration chart thats a work registration, so since the work restrictions on bulgarians and romanians were lifted surprisingly alot of bulgarians and romanians registered to work.

however what your chart shows is not the immigration into our country.




What UKIP stated was a huge increase in immigration that has since been proved not to be true infact migration from Romania has gone down

Jonny, you are an absolute clown. I read this board everyday, but have never posted. An idiot like you who thinks they know it all has finally made me post...

"While immigration from the rest of the world FELL by 11,000 in the year ending December 2013 compared to the year before, it ROSE by 43,000 from EU countries.

The figures from the Office for National Statistics also showed that an upsurge in new arrivals from Romania and Bulgaria was already in full swing in 2013 as citizens of those countries got ready for Britain to throw open its labour market. Migration from the two countries was 23,000 in 2013, compared to just 9,000 the year before.

The number of national insurance numbers issued to Romanians in the year ending March 2014 was 47,000, UP by 29,000 on the year before."

Now do the maths on immigration... Rest of the world = -11,000... EU countries = +43,000... Total equals a grand total of +32,000... Get your facts right before claiming you know everything.

nice try

still talking bollocks though

your numbers are correct but the figures are minimal its not exactly the millions that UKIP claimed there would be, you would always get an increase after work restrictions were lifted, I dont know why your surprised by that.

SO NO UKIP WERE NOT RIGHT

and do you really need to create a new username to debate come on just sad now

nice try

still talking bollocks though

your numbers are correct but the figures are minimal its not exactly the millions that UKIP claimed there would be, you would always get an increase after work restrictions were lifted, I dont know why your surprised by that.

SO NO UKIP WERE NOT RIGHT

and do you really need to create a new username to debate come on just sad now

He is correct. You really are the biggest idiot I've ever come across honestly.

UKIP never claimed millions would come. They said millions are able. I am able to punch someone full force in the face. It does not mean I will punch someone in the face. As it stands, hundreds of millions of people from the EU, EU citizens, under the free movement agreement, are able to easily move to the UK.

Not only have you come up with an absolute myth perpetuated by the media in their obvious smear campaign against UKIP in the run up to the elections but you also then suggest I've created a new username to debate with you. I'm more than happy to illustrate how much of a plonker you are on here.

You are the only person chatting nonsense. Canada, Australia and numerous other countries cope perfectly fine with strict border controls. Again, tell me whats so special about these countries that they can go it alone but the United Kingdom can't?

nice try

still talking bollocks though

your numbers are correct but the figures are minimal its not exactly the millions that UKIP claimed there would be, you would always get an increase after work restrictions were lifted, I dont know why your surprised by that.

SO NO UKIP WERE NOT RIGHT

and do you really need to create a new username to debate come on just sad now

He is correct. You really are the biggest idiot I've ever come across honestly.

UKIP never claimed millions would come. They said millions are able. I am able to punch someone full force in the face. It does not mean I will punch someone in the face. As it stands, hundreds of millions of people from the EU, EU citizens, under the free movement agreement, are able to easily move to the UK.

Not only have you come up with an absolute myth perpetuated by the media in their obvious smear campaign against UKIP in the run up to the elections but you also then suggest I've created a new username to debate with you. I'm more than happy to illustrate how much of a plonker you are on here.

You are the only person chatting nonsense. Canada, Australia and numerous other countries cope perfectly fine with strict border controls. Again, tell me whats so special about these countries that they can go it alone but the United Kingdom can't?

Nothing special about them, they just havent signed up to a treaty that allows freedom of movement and work within a group of countries. You cant decide to play a game then moan about the rules.

So when UKIP states 26 million are looking for work and whos jobs are they after. Where was the quote that we only think 0.1% of that figure will arrive?

Of course people from Romania and Bulgaria were going to arrive after the restrictions were lifted.
Of course Romanians and Bulgarians who were already living here but unable to work signed up to work.

That doesnt mean UKIP were right, im very aware of the smear campaign by the media. Your assumption that im anti all things UKIP is idiotic. Though im afraid to tell in this instance UKIP were wrong. Thats fine politicians get things wrong sometimes.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danho ... was-wrong/

Question is do people actually think we can cope without being in the EU? Not a chance.

Question is do people actually think we can cope without being in the EU? Not a chance.

I think we are stronger within Europe than outside of it. Thats not to say Europe doesnt need to reform and correct mistakes it has made. The Euro has been a disaster for European LEDC's also the freedom of work hasnt worked properly. This all can be remedied. However this country needs to recognise that talking about immigration today isnt automatically racist. The extreme left are clinging on to this myth like their lives depend on it. In my opinion their criticisms of groups like the BNP and Britain First are correct however their obsession of UKIP is starting to look stupid because they believe they are something they are not. Also their ignorance of the Euro problem will come to bite them sooner or later.

Question is do people actually think we can cope without being in the EU? Not a chance.

I think we are stronger within Europe than outside of it. Thats not to say Europe doesnt need to reform and correct mistakes it has made. The Euro has been a disaster for European LEDC's also the freedom of work hasnt worked properly. This all can be remedied. However this country needs to recognise that talking about immigration today isnt automatically racist. The extreme left are clinging on to this myth like their lives depend on it. In my opinion their criticisms of groups like the BNP and Britain First are correct however their obsession of UKIP is starting to look stupid because they believe they are something they are not. Also their ignorance of the Euro problem will come to bite them sooner or later.

Agreed on the last bit, if we leave the EU we will be f**ked. We will be picked on and won't cope without being in the EU.

If UKIP were to go on and sort out immigration everyone will be celebrating and they will sit back without realising there are plenty more problems than just immigration and they won't do a single thing..

Question is do people actually think we can cope without being in the EU? Not a chance.

I think we are stronger within Europe than outside of it. Thats not to say Europe doesnt need to reform and correct mistakes it has made. The Euro has been a disaster for European LEDC's also the freedom of work hasnt worked properly. This all can be remedied. However this country needs to recognise that talking about immigration today isnt automatically racist. The extreme left are clinging on to this myth like their lives depend on it. In my opinion their criticisms of groups like the BNP and Britain First are correct however their obsession of UKIP is starting to look stupid because they believe they are something they are not. Also their ignorance of the Euro problem will come to bite them sooner or later.

We will be picked on and won't cope without being in the EU.

6th largest economy in the world, massively important in terms of the financial sector, one of the biggest countries in the world in terms of trade and we'll be picked on and won't cope?

I've bloody heard it all now.

Question is do people actually think we can cope without being in the EU? Not a chance.

I think we are stronger within Europe than outside of it. Thats not to say Europe doesnt need to reform and correct mistakes it has made. The Euro has been a disaster for European LEDC's also the freedom of work hasnt worked properly. This all can be remedied. However this country needs to recognise that talking about immigration today isnt automatically racist. The extreme left are clinging on to this myth like their lives depend on it. In my opinion their criticisms of groups like the BNP and Britain First are correct however their obsession of UKIP is starting to look stupid because they believe they are something they are not. Also their ignorance of the Euro problem will come to bite them sooner or later.

We will be picked on and won't cope without being in the EU.

6th largest economy in the world, massively important in terms of the financial sector, one of the biggest countries in the world in terms of trade and we'll be picked on and won't cope?

I've bloody heard it all now.

One of the biggest countries in the world in terms of trade, yeah because of the EU. A lot of what you said said is linked quite a lot to the EU, just give the reasons to the post you quoted.

Green Arrow you haven't got a clue.

Green Arrow you haven't got a clue.

If I was the judge and going off your post as input to this thread. I think green arrow just tips it for me

Here here barnett here f*cking here

Are you calling your dog?

Its hear hear.

Jonny

Farage said millions of Romanians/Bulgarians had the right to come to Britain, not would come to Britain.

Dando

Norway and Switzerland have trade agreements with the EU, Idont see them clamoring to join.

All people are asking for is the chance to have a vote, cant see what is wrong with that,
but Dave Milliclegg says no, we won't let you, because we despise anyone who says anything about mass immigration.

Jonny

Farage said millions of Romanians/Bulgarians had the right to come to Britain, not would come to Britain.

Dando

Norway and Switzerland have trade agreements with the EU, Idont see them clamoring to join.

All people are asking for is the chance to have a vote, cant see what is wrong with that,
but Dave Milliclegg says no, we won't let you, because we despise anyone who says anything about mass immigration.

congratulations for stating the obvious

of course they have the right to they joined the EU

what Farage said was because they can come to Britain they will because they want your jobs, this hasnt turned out to be true. Weve given birth to more people in the same time space than actual Bulgarians and Romanians combined.

You cant really compare Norway and Switzerland to us but they still have to follow the rules of the EU if they want to trade with them.

Also who the f**k is Dave Milliclegg and why is he stopping you from having a vote?

Went to vote @ 12-30 while taking the mrs to work.The poor cow in the polling station was bored witless as we were voter number 24 and 25.Kinda puts the importance of this thread into perspective.In our area I think pliad are gonna win with a landslide maj of ten votes

Yea, I will never understand the voter apathy in UK. I say if you don't go and vote (for any party) then you got no right to moan !! simple as.

I went to do my duty this morning and afterwards went to a local cafe - heard a woman worker talking to another, asking, are you voting today, no came the reply, how do you do that then ? I swear she was about 30 years old and did not know what it was all about???

FFS.

Blooobirds Forever !!!

This infuriates me! HOW DO WE VOTE!? JESUS H. CHRIST!

People who complain but don't vote make me mad, but people are complain and are too ignorant to the fact that they have a voice makes me want to start the NWO's work with a few grenades and an M15!

I can accept someone who has a thorough view of all the parties policies, and cannot make an informed decision (for whatever reason) so they do not vote. At least this is a concious decision, and they will need to learn to live with the consequences.
but these racist, xenophobic "DEY TERK AR JAWBS" assholes who can't even be BOTHERED to read their mail, watch the news, or even make a phone call and ask a few simple questions on how to vote, and what each party stands for is EXACTLY why we are going to the dogs.

We complain and moan about immigration, about jobs being taken up by "cheap labour from abroad" but how about our own people sponging on benefits?
If every British person was in education, enlisted, or in employment (not including people with genuine disabilities) then how many jobs would there be for the immigrants exactly?

I have one such family living on my street who are not British and do not work, their fat kids terrorise the street daily, and when I got home from my GFs house one evening, they had the doors and windows open (1am) blasting some kind of weird foreign house music.
THESE are people that grind my gears.
However I have met MANY people who have come to Wales/England (my work takes me across the bridge at times) who have come over and worked everyday - keeping the corporate machine running.

2 sides to every story. But goddamit DONT f*cking MOAN ABOUT IMMIGRANTS IF YOU CANT EVEN BE BOTHERED TO b*stard VOTE!

rant over...

I tell you mate when I was knocking door to door and come across the 'Ive always voted Labour' then I asked them why and their only reason being 'because my father and grandfather voted for them' it really makes you think are people just a bunch of lemmings when it comes to polling day. And believe me its not hundreds but thousands who think like that

thats shocking...

...I could think of 1000 reasons not to vote for you

Here here barnett here f*cking here

Are you calling your dog?

Its hear hear.

Playing dog games is not my cuppa tbh