O/T nigel Farage

Quite a few will vote for him.

Can't understand why. They have only got 2 policies:

1. Get UK out of Europe

2. Kick foreigners out of UK

Struggling after that. Can't understand why they are so popular. If they got elected they got nothing else in the locker.

They wont get elected. Farage is a very good speaker but his party are just laughable.

Im voting UKIP. It aint Racist to talk about imagration and I agree with him I would not like to live next door to a load of Romanians. And I bet the vast majority would not either. Bloody loony Lefties

ukip will get my vote.75% of crime in this country is committed by immigrants

I want us out of the EU, People really need to start connecting the dots and look a bit deeper in to our relationship with the EU. The problem is not trading, never has been. If Germany pulled out of the EU tomorrow people are not going to immediately stop buying BMW's, Audi, Mercedes, or stop buying German building tools like Bosh power tools are they now.

Why does Nick clegg, Camraon, Milliband keep using this argument all the time, it's used to divert our attentions away from the real problem, and that problem is open borders, Human right act and let's be honest, before this the EU worked for everyone.

Open borders allowing people to travel between countries legally in the EU zone is only part of our problems now, what about the hundreds of thousands of people who are arriving in the EU illegally every year. The people camping out in Calais hanging on to lorries trying to get here, the thousands of people making their way to Lampadusa every year and other countries in the EU zone is just further proof of what a mess the whole system has become.

Farage is right, the door is open to millions (750 million) of people. The sooner people wake up to this the better. This is not xenophobic, it's the truth.

Where is everybody going to live, is everybody going to find a job, what about our services. All the questions the three main parties should be asking. We have all got to live at the end of the day.

I am not anti immigration I am anti mass immigration and we reached tipping point moons ago. Among other despicable acts the labour party is guilty of they are most guilty of the mass uncontrolled immigration we saw during the early 00s, far exceeding what was good for our economy.

My local newsagent is run by a Pakistani man that works hard however unlike some of the ignorant scumbags in the area he has adapted to our way of life, speaks our language and doesn't subject his wife and children to covering themselves up. He is a member of my community and benefits the area. Sadly a lot of new comers don't.

Immigrants put 38% more money into the economy than they take.

Just because immigrants are more likely to be in work than claiming benefits is not the whole picture.
1. The housing market has been swamped by 2.2m immigrants in a short space of time so that there is now a severe shortage of stock, rental prices have hit the roof and a whole generation of younger people will never have the security of owning their own home unless they are from wealthy parents who can fund the deposit.
2. It can take 2 weeks to get a doctors appointment and there are not enough dentists to even register with in some areas.
3. There is very little surplus capacity in the National Grid and at times we are relying on the imported nuclear generated power from France.
4. Schools have become overcrowded and Midwifery departments are at bursting point.
5. There is less knock-on affect from spending by Eastern Europeans who can have 5x the spending power with the money if they send it back home. Normally money is spent on average 8 times in a year with taxes paid (VAT etc.), goods traded etc.
6. Mass immigration in a short time has caused racism in a country which was one of the most tolerant towards people from different countries, races, religions or sects. This has also distracted from the good that controlled immigration has done for the UK.
7. The transport infrastructure cannot be altered overnight leading to full trains, buses and congestion in some parts of the UK.
UKIP is not just about immigration, before we were in Europe we had 2 layers of government and now we have 4 layers; the accounts for the EU haven't been signed for 18 years and there is massive waste and fraud ( many Eurocrats don't need receipts for expenses and one person with a conviction for embezzlement was in one of these positions and able to claim up to £5000 per month); we had a very good fishing industry before and now we don't; we were less reliant on food imports before signing up to the CAP (Common Agricultural Policy); we governed our own borders, and we had strong links before with the former Commonwealth countries (India is now one of the biggest trading markets in the world yet countries like Belgium now have more trade there than the UK). Furthermore, the nonsense that is often used by the Europhiles that we would not be able to trade with Europe if we left is blown out of the water, when our situation is compared to the 2 countries who have had the highest standards of living over the last few decades, namely Norway and Switzerland. They are both like the UK in that we import more from Europe than we export to Europe, therefore Europe needs us more than we need them and couldn't impose trade tariffs or embargoes.

Closing the borders wont stop ILLEGALS getting in, thats why they are illegals!!

If anybody bothered to read UKIP's foreign policy they actually plan on allowing almost the same amount of immigrants into the country LEGALLY than the others.

The problem is with ILLEGAL immigrants, which will increase if the borders are closed as it will force them even more underground.

People just listen to what Farage says without knowing what the real problem is.

For a party so against Europe, you have to wonder why they are running for EUROPEAN parliament.

I work for Ford, they are one of many firms who have hinted at pulling their manufacturing plants out of the UK if the UK leaves the EU altogether.

What would be better would if we could remain part of the EU but renegotiate the rules on allowing EU citizens onto British Shores

I work for Ford, they are one of many firms who have hinted at pulling their manufacturing plants out of the UK if the UK leaves the EU altogether.

What would be better would if we could remain part of the EU but renegotiate the rules on allowing EU citizens onto British Shores

They have already Gavin. Makes a mockery of when Clegg says we need the EU for jobs.

As a backdrop to US car company Ford closing their plants in Dagenham and Southampton — with the lost of 1,400 jobs — George Osborne okayed a EU loan to help them move production to Turkey, the New Statesman’s Rowenna Davis pointed out earlier.

The decision to close the two UK plants caused outrage when it was announced last month, not least because MPs and BIS seemed to know nothing about the decision until it was announced. But now it seems that Ford have been granted an £80m loan to build a new transit van in Turkey, by the European Investment Bank — on the board of which George Osborne sits.

This, presumably, is the same George Osborne who in regards to the EU budget negotiations said last week:

“We’re not going to accept a deal that’s not good for Britain. There’ll be a simple choice, deal or no deal. We’ll only do a deal if it’s good for Britain.”

http://politicalscrapbook.net/2012/11/george-osborne-helped-ford-send-uk-manufacturing-jobs-to-turkey/

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

You think it's racist for someone to say what we are all thinking? YOU are the real bigot.

It's funny you probably live in some middle class utopia where the little independent shop is bustling and the village green is full of kids. A place where everyone is white British/Welsh, you lot would have a fit if half of your area was swamped with immigrants like our city has been. City Road is like f*cking Baghdad nowadays.

What we are all thinking? Please don't try to justify your idiotic posts by including "we are all thinking" into it.

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Typical leftie call someone a racist but won't debate. The loony left is the problem in this country.

Unite against fascism have had 3 Islamic extremists talking at their rallies. Ridiculous.

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Anyone who reads the New Statesman was deffo not in block A thats for sure!!! More likely on Queen Street pitching up your table trying to flog the Morning Star on a Saturday afternoon than being in Block A at Ninian Park FFS!!!

you were a Politician and you are suggesting that people couldn't/shouldn't have sat where they liked and should have sat based on their political affiliation? isn't that segragation? where should they have sat? you're a despicible human being and im glad you're not in a position of power any more.

also, you couldn't have been in block A at the time...what with being a merthyr fan n all

Im voting UKIP. It aint Racist to talk about imagration and I agree with him I would not like to live next door to a load of Romanians. And I bet the vast majority would not either. Bloody loony Lefties

why not? are you better than them?

ukip will get my vote.75% of crime in this country is committed by immigrants

Perhaps yu can back this up with official figures. Have you overdosed on the tabloid press again?

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Anyone who reads the New Statesman was deffo not in block A thats for sure!!! More likely on Queen Street pitching up your table trying to flog the Morning Star on a Saturday afternoon than being in Block A at Ninian Park FFS!!!

you were a Politician and you are suggesting that people couldn't/shouldn't have sat where they liked and should have sat based on their political affiliation? isn't that segragation? where should they have sat? you're a despicible human being and im glad you're not in a position of power any more.

also, you couldn't have been in block A at the time...what with being a merthyr fan n all

whooopie f*cking do but the fact of the matter is that if you took a servay of people in block a at the time and asked them the question whether they read the New Statesman then there is a highly likely chance that they wouldn't have.

Quite a few will vote for him.

Can't understand why. They have only got 2 policies:

1. Get UK out of Europe

2. Kick foreigners out of UK

Struggling after that. Can't understand why they are so popular. If they got elected they got nothing else in the locker.

More Nuclear power rather than wasting taxpayers money on shit wind farms!!! Also even through the Lib Dems are getting credit for it actually UKIP where the first to come up with the first £15,000 to be non taxable

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Anyone who reads the New Statesman was deffo not in block A thats for sure!!! More likely on Queen Street pitching up your table trying to flog the Morning Star on a Saturday afternoon than being in Block A at Ninian Park FFS!!!

you were a Politician and you are suggesting that people couldn't/shouldn't have sat where they liked and should have sat based on their political affiliation? isn't that segragation? where should they have sat? you're a despicible human being and im glad you're not in a position of power any more.

also, you couldn't have been in block A at the time...what with being a merthyr fan n all

whooopie f*cking do but the fact of the matter is that if you took a servay of people in block a at the time and asked them the question whether they read the New Statesman then there is a highly likely chance that they wouldn't have.

thats quite different from "Anyone who reads the New Statesman was deffo not in block A thats for sure!!!"

well i was there for 2 seasons or so and i read it. should i have moved? if so then where?

people like you make me sick, you feel you can pigeon hole everyone even down to where they sit in a f*cking football ground and think its acceptable, now i admit the correlation between football ground seating and publication reading isn't something worth quarraling over, but in this context its a symptom of this horrific culture that is very "us and them" and doesnt promote tolerance in the slightest.

if someone linked a daily mail story here i wouldnt question where they used to sit in NP...wouldn't cross my mind. What does that say about you or any of your arguments.

Im voting UKIP. It aint Racist to talk about imagration and I agree with him I would not like to live next door to a load of Romanians. And I bet the vast majority would not either. Bloody loony Lefties

why not? are you better than them?

Facts are facts mate.

Up to one in three Romanian migrants have been arrested, figures have showed, as the country ranked second in a list of foreigners held over serious offences.

Some 27,725 Romanians were arrested for offences in London over the past five years, Scotland Yard said, including 10 for murder and more than 140 for rape.

The figures, published under the Freedom of Information Act, will fuel fears of a crime wave when restrictions on workers from Romania and Bulgaria are lifted in January next year.

Romanians came second only to Poles, who accounted for 34,905 arrests, including 84 for murder and almost 130 for rape.

However, there were some 587,000 migrants born in Poland living in the UK in 2011, estimates from the Office for National Statistics showed, compared with 87,000 Romanians.

Sir Andrew Green, chairman of the pressure group Migration Watch UK, said: “The extent of this Romanian criminality is a real concern for the ending of all immigration controls on Romanians and Bulgarians next year.”

Lithuanians came third on the list, with 18,594 detained over the five-year period, followed by Nigerians, with 15,600 arrests and Indians with 15,204 arrests.

The figures also showed some 2,887 Bulgarians were arrested in London over the same period, including two for murder and 22 for rape.

The Metropolitan Police, Britain’s largest force, deals with around half of all crime committed in Britain by foreign nationals and has set up Operation Nexus to tackle the issue.

Speaking at the launch last November, Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley said that in tackling foreign offenders, the force needed to be “as effective as we are with the three quarters of offenders who are British, who we know more about”.

“That requires better intelligence sharing and bringing them to justice through an increased range of options,” he said.

The list of foreigners arrested between April 2008 and the end of December last year showed the top 10-ranking countries was completed by Jamaica, with 14,072 arrests, Ireland (14,066), Somalia (10,688), Portugal (9,557) and Pakistan (8,513).

France came 11th with 7,994 French nationals arrested in London over the past five years, including seven for murder and 51 for rape.

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Typical leftie call someone a racist but won't debate. The loony left is the problem in this country.

Unite against fascism have had 3 Islamic extremists talking at their rallies. Ridiculous.

The looney left can't see that there are very real problems at the lower end of society caused by this unfettered immigration and the Left's inability to acknowledge that is as much a part of the problem as the BNP. There are many who would have us believe that the problem is all down to enlightenment. If we were all pan-Europeans instead of nasty little britanners, if people weren't so thick, if they weren't so racist, if they embraced the cultural diversity....somehow all the problems will go away.

That's always been a problem I've found with a lot of left-wingers, it's not the politics so much as the delivery especially when it comes from someone in a position of comfort and detachment. A noblesse oblige, Nanny knows best approach. Gordon Brown showed this when he called that old dear racist rather than listen to what she said and challenge her views.

George Orwell described the type very well - the kind of socialist who will do anything for the working-class except join them.

Not going to get into a debate about it but if you vote Farage after his most recent interview it says a lot about you as a person. The man is a total bigot and hypocrit.

http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/20 ... erview-lbc

Typical leftie call someone a racist but won't debate. The loony left is the problem in this country.

Unite against fascism have had 3 Islamic extremists talking at their rallies. Ridiculous.

The looney left can't see that there are very real problems at the lower end of society caused by this unfettered immigration and the Left's inability to acknowledge that is as much a part of the problem as the BNP. There are many who would have us believe that the problem is all down to enlightenment. If we were all pan-Europeans instead of nasty little britanners, if people weren't so thick, if they weren't so racist, if they embraced the cultural diversity....somehow all the problems will go away.

That's always been a problem I've found with a lot of left-wingers, it's not the politics so much as the delivery especially when it comes from someone in a position of comfort and detachment. A noblesse oblige, Nanny knows best approach. Gordon Brown showed this when he called that old dear racist rather than listen to what she said and challenge her views.

George Orwell described the type very well - the kind of socialist who will do anything for the working-class except join them.

Not all socialists are from the comfortable middle class.

This "looney left" is just another over used cliche.

Quite a few will vote for him.

Can't understand why. They have only got 2 policies:

1. Get UK out of Europe

2. Kick foreigners out of UK

Struggling after that. Can't understand why they are so popular. If they got elected they got nothing else in the locker.

More Nuclear power rather than wasting taxpayers money on shit wind farms!!! Also even through the Lib Dems are getting credit for it actually UKIP where the first to come up with the first £15,000 to be non taxable

Oh that's ok then, a total of four policies. That should be enough to keep the country running. f*cking joke. The cost of decommissioning a nuclear plant is £billions. Not sustainable.

If your not happy with UKIP try BNP

This just somes the UKIP up doesn't it. The press and left wing bigots don't show this do they? I wonder why?

Notice how unite against fascist are in attendance, the irony

This just somes the UKIP up doesn't it. The press and left wing bigots don't show this do they? I wonder why?

Notice how unite against fascist are in attendance, the irony

what exactly makes all left wingers bigots? or should i say; why is it relevant that bigots just so happen to be left wing? because i personally don;t see the correlation, much the same way as you probably don't agree that ukip are, as a rule racist.

re: the rest of the post, im in work so can't see the picture you're posting so i can't comment on that. Just interested is all

Quite a few will vote for him.

Can't understand why. They have only got 2 policies:

1. Get UK out of Europe

2. Kick foreigners out of UK

Struggling after that. Can't understand why they are so popular. If they got elected they got nothing else in the locker.

More Nuclear power rather than wasting taxpayers money on shit wind farms!!! Also even through the Lib Dems are getting credit for it actually UKIP where the first to come up with the first £15,000 to be non taxable

Oh that's ok then, a total of four policies. That should be enough to keep the country running. f*cking joke. The cost of decommissioning a nuclear plant is £billions. Not sustainable.

They have to be decommissioned anyway so what on earth are you on about..? The thing that isn't sustainable is relaying on wind energy!!!

Another policy they've had is to bring back grammer schools and also to train up the youngsters in this country to become the doctors and nurses of the future and not relay on second rate doctors and nurses from about which by the way are responsible for a large percentage of mistakes which has led to deaths in our hospitals.

You say you dont know many of their policies then as you are on the internet then its easy to look it up isnt it..?

This just somes the UKIP up doesn't it. The press and left wing bigots don't show this do they? I wonder why?

Notice how unite against fascist are in attendance, the irony

what exactly makes all left wingers bigots? or should i say; why is it relevant that bigots just so happen to be left wing? because i personally don;t see the correlation, much the same way as you probably don't agree that ukip are, as a rule racist.

re: the rest of the post, im in work so can't see the picture you're posting so i can't comment on that. Just interested is all

It's not a picture as you know it isn't. Are right wing people bigots?

There is no difference between extreme left (Stalin) and extreme right (Hitler) it goes full circle.

This just somes the UKIP up doesn't it. The press and left wing bigots don't show this do they? I wonder why?

Notice how unite against fascist are in attendance, the irony

what exactly makes all left wingers bigots? or should i say; why is it relevant that bigots just so happen to be left wing? because i personally don;t see the correlation, much the same way as you probably don't agree that ukip are, as a rule racist.

re: the rest of the post, im in work so can't see the picture you're posting so i can't comment on that. Just interested is all

It's not a picture as you know it isn't. Are right wing people bigots?

some are, but not all, thats why i would call them "bigots" not "right wing bigots" but you put left wing and bigot together as if they're related and id like to know why.

and i cant see if its a picture or not. all i can see is you post followed by a big white box (which i assumed was a picture as that is usually what a picture looks like when it can't be viewed from my work computor)

There is no difference between extreme left (Stalin) and extreme right (Hitler) it goes full circle.

And in the middle you have political correctness whereas no one must be offended and that is where the three main parties are fighting for which causes division and tension amongst the population.

There is no difference between extreme left (Stalin) and extreme right (Hitler) it goes full circle.

And in the middle you have political correctness whereas no one must be offended and that is where the three main parties are fighting for which causes division and tension amongst the population.

and this doesnt happen with either of craigs examples?

(answer my last question first please)