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Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 11:08 am

Bluebina wrote:
Bigbluebird wrote:FFS.

Can I have the two mins it took me to read that back please?

Today's football forums are the equivalent to a 1950's back garden fence where old women gossip with no credible source.



Unbelievable, the papers will probably pick it up, like the Marshall should be scoring more goals stories :lol:

Yeah just like Tan forcing Moody to sit with the Palace fans being reported by the media... The media don't always get it right!!

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 11:13 am

Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.

We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it. :thumbup: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:





Quote (Forever Blue): "We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it"

In fairness, I have said this from the start, as it is IMHO the ONLY visible (and non-divisive) way of letting Vincent Tan and his 'advisors' know how the vast majority of fans feel about the BLUE :thumbup:

It may well be that many reluctantly 'accepted' the red "for the sake of the club's existence" a couple of years ago, but that doesn't mean they WANTED it and THAT is where the "Sea of Blue" at the stadium can show Vincent Tan the truth of the matter! :thumbup:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 11:21 am

Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everyone is wrong - just you. :lol:

And like i said, it went shit as soon as you started making stuff up for no reason.

Cant pay off debt with parachute money? What are you on pal? :lol:

Where did I say you cant pay off debt with parachute money? I said if Tan walks the premier league will withold parachute payments as we would enter administration.

Walking away is walking away, not selling.

Only thing i did get wrong was it wasnt Balran Chanrai that caused it at Pompeii, it was Sacha Gaydamek (sic)

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 11:22 am

Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.

We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it. :thumbup: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:





Quote (Forever Blue): "We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it"

In fairness, I have said this from the start, as it is IMHO the ONLY visible (and non-divisive) way of letting Vincent Tan and his 'advisors' know how the vast majority of fans feel about the BLUE :thumbup:

It may well be that many reluctantly 'accepted' the red "for the sake of the club's existence" a couple of years ago, but that doesn't mean they WANTED it and THAT is where the "Sea of Blue" at the stadium can show Vincent Tan the truth of the matter! :thumbup:


Spot on but let's not abuse him...need to get him onside

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 11:24 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everyone is wrong - just you. :lol:

And like i said, it went shit as soon as you started making stuff up for no reason.

Cant pay off debt with parachute money? What are you on pal? :lol:

Where did I say you cant pay off debt with parachute money? I said if Tan walks the premier league will withold parachute payments as we would enter administration.

Walking away is walking away, not selling.

Only thing i did get wrong was it wasnt Balran Chanrai that caused it at Pompeii, it was Sacha Gaydamek (sic)


Dont be ridiculous why would he walk away for nothing? :lol:

Walking away simply means leaving, it doesnt describe a method of leaving.

He will be selling his shares on and will be keeping the parachute money. Simple as that, as ive been telling you for years and years.

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 11:26 am

Daft Dave wrote:
Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.

We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it. :thumbup: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:





Quote (Forever Blue): "We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it"

In fairness, I have said this from the start, as it is IMHO the ONLY visible (and non-divisive) way of letting Vincent Tan and his 'advisors' know how the vast majority of fans feel about the BLUE :thumbup:

It may well be that many reluctantly 'accepted' the red "for the sake of the club's existence" a couple of years ago, but that doesn't mean they WANTED it and THAT is where the "Sea of Blue" at the stadium can show Vincent Tan the truth of the matter! :thumbup:


Spot on but let's not abuse him...need to get him onside




Agree...and there are 'signs' that he finally wants to engage with ordinary fans (i.e. not 'just' the Trust) :thumbup:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 11:27 am

Sven wrote:

Agree...and there are 'signs' that he finally wants to engage with ordinary fans (i.e. not 'just' the Trust) :thumbup:


Marvellous... So he can lie and twist out of situations with "ordinary" fans soon then.

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 11:36 am

Hopefully we don't get promoted then so tan and his red fucks off

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 11:50 am

Nuclearblue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Stopped reading when you said he will walk away with parachute money. He cant.

Yes he can craig and you know it. He can take what he wants as the club owes him the money. As the money comes in and for player sales he can claim that as owed.

The parachute payments are over 4 years nukes and Craig is right he can't walk away with them. He has every right to be angry with moody and Malky as Cornelius was being touted for two million euros before we paid ten for him. As for lim he gets sacked twice a week every week by tan :lol:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 12:20 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everyone is wrong - just you. :lol:

And like i said, it went shit as soon as you started making stuff up for no reason.

Cant pay off debt with parachute money? What are you on pal? :lol:


ffs put link up or rules that says tan can take parachute payments in its entiretee from club? or is it just true because you are never wrong ! :lol:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 12:24 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everyone is wrong - just you. :lol:

And like i said, it went shit as soon as you started making stuff up for no reason.

Cant pay off debt with parachute money? What are you on pal? :lol:


ffs put link up or rules that says tan can take parachute payments in its entiretee from club? or is it just true because you are never wrong ! :lol:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 12:26 pm

Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.

We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it. :thumbup: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:





Quote (Forever Blue): "We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it"

In fairness, I have said this from the start, as it is IMHO the ONLY visible (and non-divisive) way of letting Vincent Tan and his 'advisors' know how the vast majority of fans feel about the BLUE :thumbup:

It may well be that many reluctantly 'accepted' the red "for the sake of the club's existence" a couple of years ago, but that doesn't mean they WANTED it and THAT is where the "Sea of Blue" at the stadium can show Vincent Tan the truth of the matter! :thumbup:


That was me at the time red or dead.I've seen the light this season!!!
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Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 12:36 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Sven wrote:

Agree...and there are 'signs' that he finally wants to engage with ordinary fans (i.e. not 'just' the Trust) :thumbup:


Marvellous... So he can lie and twist out of situations with "ordinary" fans soon then.





Alex, you are (where this subject is concerned) very bitter and it does you no credit. There are none (as it is now becoming more and more apparent with the revelation that a number of 'stories' circulated in recent times were simply not true) who can be labelled more (your words) as having "lied and twisted situations with ordinary fans" than certain 'fans' themselves :oops:

How would YOU have things move forward in a manner that would 'engage' with the current owner and allow the club to move towards a more harmonious existence? :?

IF after 'talks' with grass root fans he (Tan) is then proven to be what some portray him to be, then at least we will all KNOW it as a FACT rather than being fed agenda-filled gossip by some pretty embittered people ;)

As usual, I suspect the TRUTH will be somewhere in between and although it appears not to suit you, it might just result in a better understanding of all parties positions and I think anyone who wouldn't want to at least try to 'engage' doesn't have the interests of Cardiff City Football Club at heart :roll:

Sadly, I think there are some pretty vocal people on this forum that are in that latter group and your continued comments on the matter suggest YOU are one of them :cry:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 12:40 pm

Sven wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Sven wrote:

Agree...and there are 'signs' that he finally wants to engage with ordinary fans (i.e. not 'just' the Trust) :thumbup:


Marvellous... So he can lie and twist out of situations with "ordinary" fans soon then.





Alex, you are (where this subject is concerned) very bitter and it does you no credit. There are none (as it is now becoming more and more apparent with the revelation that a number of 'stories' circulated in recent times were simply not true) who can be labelled more (your words) as having "lied and twisted situations with ordinary fans" than certain 'fans' themselves :oops:

How would YOU have things move forward in a manner that would 'engage' with the current owner and allow the club to move towards a more harmonious existence? :?

IF after 'talks' with grass root fans he (Tan) is then proven to be what some portray him to be, then at least we will all KNOW it as a FACT rather than being fed agenda-filled gossip by some pretty embittered people ;)

As usual, I suspect the TRUTH will be somewhere in between and although it appears not to suit you, it might just result in a better understanding of all parties positions and I think anyone who wouldn't want to at least try to 'engage' doesn't have the interests of Cardiff City Football Club at heart :roll:

Sadly, I think there are some pretty vocal people on this forum that are in that latter group and your continued comments on the matter suggest YOU are one of them :cry:


Great post Sven!

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 12:48 pm

Yes Sven well said,quite a lot of bitter blues on this forum,very sad to see.Don't know what's happened to nuclear blue,talks a lot of garbage lately.
On a positive note welcome back natman, good level headed posters are few and far between.

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 12:56 pm

Sven wrote:
Alex, you are (where this subject is concerned) very bitter and it does you no credit. There are none (as it is now becoming more and more apparent with the revelation that a number of 'stories' circulated in recent times were simply not true) who can be labelled more (your words) as having "lied and twisted situations with ordinary fans" than certain 'fans' themselves :oops:

stop talking soft. I like you Chris, but don't call me bitter for suggesting that a Tan has lied. He has lied to supporters. That is a fact.

How would YOU have things move forward in a manner that would 'engage' with the current owner and allow the club to move towards a more harmonious existence? :?

cut the condescending bold text mate. I can read it well enough without it. I wouldn't 'engage' with this current owner. He is killing this club & the long term future is grim with this man here.

IF after 'talks' with grass root fans he (Tan) is then proven to be what some portray him to be, then at least we will all KNOW it as a FACT rather than being fed agenda-filled gossip by some pretty embittered people ;)

where have I gossiped about anything in this thread?! I base my opinions on facts.

The fact that he has destroyed the identity of this club.
The fact that under his guidance, the club have got into more debt than ever.
The fact that he now admits that he won't transfer debt to equity... Despite this being the reason that most begrudgingly accepted his horrific rebrand.


As usual, I suspect the TRUTH will be somewhere in between and although it appears not to suit you, it might just result in a better understanding of all parties positions and I think anyone who wouldn't want to at least try to 'engage' doesn't have the interests of Cardiff City Football Club at heart :roll:

Sadly, I think there are some pretty vocal people on this forum that are in that latter group and your continued comments on the matter suggest YOU are one of them :cry:

cry me a f*cking river then. If you don't like my opinions, I suggest you block me. Who on earth do you think you are to tell people that they don't have the best interests of CCFC at heart... Just because you disagree with them?!

Imagine if I had suggested that about anyone who wears a red shirt?! :roll:


I normally really respect your views Chris, but am disappointed at your response to my post, to say the least.
All I did was suggest that Tan could lie some more... Seeing as he has already misled/lied to supporters once.

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 1:01 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everyone is wrong - just you. :lol:

And like i said, it went shit as soon as you started making stuff up for no reason.

Cant pay off debt with parachute money? What are you on pal? :lol:



If I understand it correctly he can use the money to pay off any debt on the basis we are not in administration if he puts us into administration the football league then does not allow for the debt to be paid to them or am I wrong in that?

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 1:07 pm

Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:City have sold approx 14,500 season tickets plus about 900 Prem for next season,thousands have deserted not because of the rebrand, because NO Man United lol
Of course about 3,000 plus have stopped going over the last 2 years through the rebrand.

We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it. :thumbup: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:





Quote (Forever Blue): "We must continue the BLUE protests at every home and away games in the ground, it really does get to him and the world sees it"

In fairness, I have said this from the start, as it is IMHO the ONLY visible (and non-divisive) way of letting Vincent Tan and his 'advisors' know how the vast majority of fans feel about the BLUE :thumbup:

It may well be that many reluctantly 'accepted' the red "for the sake of the club's existence" a couple of years ago, but that doesn't mean they WANTED it and THAT is where the "Sea of Blue" at the stadium can show Vincent Tan the truth of the matter! :thumbup:

Absolutely essential , I agree "The Sea of Blue" was a mastermove that I think surprised everyone involved. It was a spin off of the march which pisses Vinnie off big time. As I cant move too well I sit in the Grandstand (I always wear Blue and do so with passion) the last 3 home games the GS has been getting more and more Blue, tho still a bit quiet. I( think the noise from the new stand will really help the atmosphere in the GS.
The scarves are the thing that finally got through to Vinny, who would have thought that? :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 1:09 pm

Grumpyguts wrote:The scarves are the thing that finally got through to Vinny, who would have thought that? :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Common sense really.... It's so visual! Plus... He can hide away from protests and marches... He can't hide away from the whole ground holding the scarves up. It's a beautiful sight. :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 1:15 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Grumpyguts wrote:The scarves are the thing that finally got through to Vinny, who would have thought that? :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Common sense really.... It's so visual! Plus... He can hide away from protests and marches... He can't hide away from the whole ground holding the scarves up. It's a beautiful sight. :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Maybe I should have expressed myself better Alex. I was amazed at the speed at which it caught on.

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 1:20 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If true it's worrying what is in the email for to drop a multimillion pound case and have to give a pathetic groveling apology to tan.

Not sure why tan wants Bellamy to stay, maybe he is advised he is some kind of local hero adorred by fans.

Maybe because Bellamy is loyal to tan. Bellamy doesn't seem to like the fans much lately

Can't say I blame Bellamy some fans just Chat Shit.....OP is a classic case. :lol:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 1:24 pm

redordead wrote:Yes Sven well said,quite a lot of bitter blues on this forum,very sad to see.Don't know what's happened to nuclear blue,talks a lot of garbage lately.
On a positive note welcome back natman, good level headed posters are few and far between.


thanks mate!

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 1:26 pm

Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:If true it's worrying what is in the email for to drop a multimillion pound case and have to give a pathetic groveling apology to tan.

Not sure why tan wants Bellamy to stay, maybe he is advised he is some kind of local hero adorred by fans.

Maybe because Bellamy is loyal to tan. Bellamy doesn't seem to like the fans much lately

Can't say I blame Bellamy some fans just Chat Shit.....OP is a classic case. :lol:


:thumbright:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 1:33 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Simon Lim was sacked by Vincent Tan and was to be replaced by a guy called Mr Chu
Then 48 hours later last week Tan reinstated Simon Lim as CEO.

Vincent Tan will give us one more season to get us back in the Prem if he fails he will walk away from our Club for good, that is exactly what ive been told and hearing.
I am led to believe he wont leave us entirely in the shit but could walk with the parachute payments etc. 

To be honest this is my opinion Tan has been made to look bad the world over and has been a bit embarrassing in his home country so if he was to destroy us that would not look good on him. 

I understand there was no wrong doing with Malky he and Moody was sacked for personal reasons. 
It was never ever anything to do with money, it was a personal thing with Moody and Tan and Malky backed Moody, Tan had private emails on Moody which Malky did not distance himself from and Tan demanded an unreserved apology.

Craig Bellamy is not wanted by Ole, but Tan wants Bellamy to stay at all costs.
Bellamy refused to play for City v Stoke and went of to Florida with his daughter.

Dalman has considered leaving and it is still on the cards.

Tan will leave if we fail to go back up next season.

Tan has employed a new rebranding company regarding the Red and intends not to let up on it, he has no intentions on compromising and the only thing that hurts him not marches, but the demos in the ground, blue in the ground is finally getting to him, but that still wont make him go, he intends to go more Red.


latest news from where nukes? source? it just sounds like all the gossip from this board put in one post. and as sven says, not very accurate and more malicious in intent.

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 1:55 pm

That's probably all bullshit.

Most negative post ever.

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 2:04 pm

Thing I hate about Roathie is he makes it about him more than discussing the actual matter, don't care if he's right or not, I prefer the actual matter. Can't help but feel this thread is tripe

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 2:05 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:Thing I hate about Roathie is he makes it about him more than discussing the actual matter, don't care if he's right or not, I prefer the actual matter. Can't help but feel this thread is tripe


Thread ruined by him as usual.

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 2:13 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everyone is wrong - just you. :lol:

And like i said, it went shit as soon as you started making stuff up for no reason.

Cant pay off debt with parachute money? What are you on pal? :lol:

Where did I say you cant pay off debt with parachute money? I said if Tan walks the premier league will withold parachute payments as we would enter administration.

Walking away is walking away, not selling.

Only thing i did get wrong was it wasnt Balran Chanrai that caused it at Pompeii, it was Sacha Gaydamek (sic)


Dont be ridiculous why would he walk away for nothing? :lol:

Walking away simply means leaving, it doesnt describe a method of leaving.

He will be selling his shares on and will be keeping the parachute money. Simple as that, as ive been telling you for years and years.


How have you been telling us for years and years? We've only just qualified for parachute payments. Even if you predicted 12 months ago that we would go straight back down that is hardly years and years :lol:

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 3:05 pm

In regards to OP,Steve wouldn't have posted it if it just were idle gossip.

There has to be some element of truth in the matter.

Lim for Chu and Chu for Lim sounds right up Tans Street.

Natman Welcome Back.
What you gonna do with all your aliases now your original has been reinstated.?

Re: Latest news I have heard regarding Vincent Tan

Sun May 18, 2014 3:42 pm

The two points regarding Bellamy.

1. If Ole doesn't want him around, and Tan insists that Bellamy stays, then surely that would make Ole's position impossible.

2. If Bellamy refused to play against Stoke, and went to Florida, then he should be shown the door.