We haven't accepted the rebrand so why should Tan convert

Debt to equity.

Let me start by saying I would prefer blue, am grateful to TG and VT for the progress we have made as a club. I would prefer that we did all that while in blue but there was no one knocking the door trying to do that for us apart from Tan.

Part of the whole package was a variety of incentives. Most VT has delivered on. The one he hasn't is the debt to equity. Bearing in mind the protests this season against the blue we are clearly not accepting the rebrand. We can't have it both ways and say we reluctantly accepted the rebrand for a debt free club. This being achieved by VT converting the debt to equity. Quite clearly we are not accepting the rebrand. VT is not blind and not a fool. He can see the blue, hear the songs about the blue and even the ones calling him a wanker and Tan out. We regularly embarrass him in front of his peers.

With all the above I wouldn't get myself entrenched long term which is what debt to equity would mean.

If we want debt to equity we have to embrace Tan and the rebrand or hope someone comes along to buy us. There isn't a middle option where he sorts the debt to equity but continues to look a fool. If I'm honest if I was in his position, as a billionaire, owning a club where the majority don't want me and make that clear I would f**k them over. Hopefully he won't do that.

You are so wrong in everything you say here.For the first 18 months you lot and Tan were bragging that only a couple of hundred were against the rebrand so in theory the rebrand was accepted and this was was confirmed by scarfgate and still the debt wasn't sorted,it's only in the last few months people are up in arms about it simply because nothing has been done and fans feels lied to,your argument is nonsense and holds no water...he promised to do it so it should have been done.

YOU LOT?....

We never asked for the MAD rebrand in the first place, ridiculous nonsensical thread

We never asked for the MAD rebrand in the first place, ridiculous nonsensical thread

if you read those fans leaders letters......read Carls account of the 12 angry men........we sort of did ,, not asked,but agreed to it....................if you think you could have sat in that meeting and thought different to the 12..you are not being fair,and have not given it enough thought..sorry

Tan out

Debt to equity.

Let me start by saying I would prefer blue, am grateful to TG and VT for the progress we have made as a club. I would prefer that we did all that while in blue but there was no one knocking the door trying to do that for us apart from Tan.

Part of the whole package was a variety of incentives. Most VT has delivered on. The one he hasn't is the debt to equity. Bearing in mind the protests this season against the blue we are clearly not accepting the rebrand. We can't have it both ways and say we reluctantly accepted the rebrand for a debt free club. This being achieved by VT converting the debt to equity. Quite clearly we are not accepting the rebrand. VT is not blind and not a fool. He can see the blue, hear the songs about the blue and even the ones calling him a wanker and Tan out. We regularly embarrass him in front of his peers.

With all the above I wouldn't get myself entrenched long term which is what debt to equity would mean.

If we want debt to equity we have to embrace Tan and the rebrand or hope someone comes along to buy us. There isn't a middle option where he sorts the debt to equity but continues to look a fool. If I'm honest if I was in his position, as a billionaire, owning a club where the majority don't want me and make that clear I would f**k them over. Hopefully he won't do that.

You are so wrong in everything you say here.For the first 18 months you lot and Tan were bragging that only a couple of hundred were against the rebrand so in theory the rebrand was accepted and this was was confirmed by scarfgate and still the debt wasn't sorted,it's only in the last few months people are up in arms about it simply because nothing has been done and fans feels lied to,your argument is nonsense and holds no water...he promised to do it so it should have been done.

YOU LOT?....

(Those happy to accept the rebrand)

Debt to equity.

Let me start by saying I would prefer blue, am grateful to TG and VT for the progress we have made as a club. I would prefer that we did all that while in blue but there was no one knocking the door trying to do that for us apart from Tan.

Part of the whole package was a variety of incentives. Most VT has delivered on. The one he hasn't is the debt to equity. Bearing in mind the protests this season against the blue we are clearly not accepting the rebrand. We can't have it both ways and say we reluctantly accepted the rebrand for a debt free club. This being achieved by VT converting the debt to equity. Quite clearly we are not accepting the rebrand. VT is not blind and not a fool. He can see the blue, hear the songs about the blue and even the ones calling him a wanker and Tan out. We regularly embarrass him in front of his peers.

With all the above I wouldn't get myself entrenched long term which is what debt to equity would mean.

If we want debt to equity we have to embrace Tan and the rebrand or hope someone comes along to buy us. There isn't a middle option where he sorts the debt to equity but continues to look a fool. If I'm honest if I was in his position, as a billionaire, owning a club where the majority don't want me and make that clear I would f**k them over. Hopefully he won't do that.

You are so wrong in everything you say here.For the first 18 months you lot and Tan were bragging that only a couple of hundred were against the rebrand so in theory the rebrand was accepted and this was was confirmed by scarfgate and still the debt wasn't sorted,it's only in the last few months people are up in arms about it simply because nothing has been done and fans feels lied to,your argument is nonsense and holds no water...he promised to do it so it should have been done.

YOU LOT?....

(Those happy to accept the rebrand)

those that did not accept it stopped going..................the rest all to different degrees accepted..very very few have i ever heard say they were happy to,,,,,,,,,........nobody except tan bragged about only a few hundred, because if you attend you could SEE the blue..........

YOU LOT............is very divisive.....
those that really really really want the blue back, also want to show a united front......its the only way......the bigger the majority the more people listen.......wanting tan out doesnt make anyone more blue .......it just drives lots away

Debt to equity.

Let me start by saying I would prefer blue, am grateful to TG and VT for the progress we have made as a club. I would prefer that we did all that while in blue but there was no one knocking the door trying to do that for us apart from Tan.

Part of the whole package was a variety of incentives. Most VT has delivered on. The one he hasn't is the debt to equity. Bearing in mind the protests this season against the blue we are clearly not accepting the rebrand. We can't have it both ways and say we reluctantly accepted the rebrand for a debt free club. This being achieved by VT converting the debt to equity. Quite clearly we are not accepting the rebrand. VT is not blind and not a fool. He can see the blue, hear the songs about the blue and even the ones calling him a wanker and Tan out. We regularly embarrass him in front of his peers.

With all the above I wouldn't get myself entrenched long term which is what debt to equity would mean.

If we want debt to equity we have to embrace Tan and the rebrand or hope someone comes along to buy us. There isn't a middle option where he sorts the debt to equity but continues to look a fool. If I'm honest if I was in his position, as a billionaire, owning a club where the majority don't want me and make that clear I would f**k them over. Hopefully he won't do that.

You are so wrong in everything you say here.For the first 18 months you lot and Tan were bragging that only a couple of hundred were against the rebrand so in theory the rebrand was accepted and this was was confirmed by scarfgate and still the debt wasn't sorted,it's only in the last few months people are up in arms about it simply because nothing has been done and fans feels lied to,your argument is nonsense and holds no water...he promised to do it so it should have been done.

YOU LOT?....

(Those happy to accept the rebrand)

those that did not accept it stopped going..................the rest all to different degrees accepted..very very few have i ever heard say they were happy to,,,,,,,,,........nobody except tan bragged about only a few hundred, because if you attend you could SEE the blue..........

Simon, I never accepted one bit, but I kept going, why because if we had all walked away then I honestly believe the stadium would yesterday had been Red not BLUE

I respect those that walked away, but there was never going to be enough to make a difference, by staying and fighting the cause within we have made a hell of a difference.

I wont buy programmes,merchandise,food only my match ticket

We are making a hell of a difference in the ground, home and away

TAN OUT!!!

But please spend money on players to get us back up.

Your thread headline is to easy to counter, the thing is the REBRAND come on the promise of ALL debt to equity. Its been well over two years and nothing still after promise on promise that's why most are at tan now as there's always another excuse. The latest was when the malky situation was sorted and now its " A little bit " if we get promoted, yet another spindle of shit to suit the rest of them he's come out with. As for players you mentioned well it wouldn't bother me as prem football done nothing for me in anyway due to what's gone on.

Debt to equity.

Let me start by saying I would prefer blue, am grateful to TG and VT for the progress we have made as a club. I would prefer that we did all that while in blue but there was no one knocking the door trying to do that for us apart from Tan.

Part of the whole package was a variety of incentives. Most VT has delivered on. The one he hasn't is the debt to equity. Bearing in mind the protests this season against the blue we are clearly not accepting the rebrand. We can't have it both ways and say we reluctantly accepted the rebrand for a debt free club. This being achieved by VT converting the debt to equity. Quite clearly we are not accepting the rebrand. VT is not blind and not a fool. He can see the blue, hear the songs about the blue and even the ones calling him a wanker and Tan out. We regularly embarrass him in front of his peers.

With all the above I wouldn't get myself entrenched long term which is what debt to equity would mean.

If we want debt to equity we have to embrace Tan and the rebrand or hope someone comes along to buy us. There isn't a middle option where he sorts the debt to equity but continues to look a fool. If I'm honest if I was in his position, as a billionaire, owning a club where the majority don't want me and make that clear I would f**k them over. Hopefully he won't do that.

You are so wrong in everything you say here.For the first 18 months you lot and Tan were bragging that only a couple of hundred were against the rebrand so in theory the rebrand was accepted and this was was confirmed by scarfgate and still the debt wasn't sorted,it's only in the last few months people are up in arms about it simply because nothing has been done and fans feels lied to,your argument is nonsense and holds no water...he promised to do it so it should have been done.

YOU LOT?....

(Those happy to accept the rebrand)

those that did not accept it stopped going..................the rest all to different degrees accepted..very very few have i ever heard say they were happy to,,,,,,,,,........nobody except tan bragged about only a few hundred, because if you attend you could SEE the blue..........

Simon, I never accepted one bit, but I kept going, why because if we had all walked away then I honestly believe the stadium would yesterday had been Red not BLUE

I respect those that walked away, but there was never going to be enough to make a difference, by staying and fighting the cause within we have made a hell of a difference.

I wont buy programmes,merchandise,food only my match ticket

We are making a hell of a difference in the ground, home and away

i dont spend a penny on any of that stuff either, but dont want HIM hanging from a tree.. and ok, you want to say didnt accept...same here i refuse to buy into it but still went,and wore blue.....maybe tolerate is a better word...

Debt to equity.

Let me start by saying I would prefer blue, am grateful to TG and VT for the progress we have made as a club. I would prefer that we did all that while in blue but there was no one knocking the door trying to do that for us apart from Tan.

Part of the whole package was a variety of incentives. Most VT has delivered on. The one he hasn't is the debt to equity. Bearing in mind the protests this season against the blue we are clearly not accepting the rebrand. We can't have it both ways and say we reluctantly accepted the rebrand for a debt free club. This being achieved by VT converting the debt to equity. Quite clearly we are not accepting the rebrand. VT is not blind and not a fool. He can see the blue, hear the songs about the blue and even the ones calling him a wanker and Tan out. We regularly embarrass him in front of his peers.

With all the above I wouldn't get myself entrenched long term which is what debt to equity would mean.

If we want debt to equity we have to embrace Tan and the rebrand or hope someone comes along to buy us. There isn't a middle option where he sorts the debt to equity but continues to look a fool. If I'm honest if I was in his position, as a billionaire, owning a club where the majority don't want me and make that clear I would f**k them over. Hopefully he won't do that.

You are so wrong in everything you say here.For the first 18 months you lot and Tan were bragging that only a couple of hundred were against the rebrand so in theory the rebrand was accepted and this was was confirmed by scarfgate and still the debt wasn't sorted,it's only in the last few months people are up in arms about it simply because nothing has been done and fans feels lied to,your argument is nonsense and holds no water...he promised to do it so it should have been done.

YOU LOT?....

(Those happy to accept the rebrand)

those that did not accept it stopped going..................the rest all to different degrees accepted..very very few have i ever heard say they were happy to,,,,,,,,,........nobody except tan bragged about only a few hundred, because if you attend you could SEE the blue..........

Simon, I never accepted one bit, but I kept going, why because if we had all walked away then I honestly believe the stadium would yesterday had been Red not BLUE

I respect those that walked away, but there was never going to be enough to make a difference, by staying and fighting the cause within we have made a hell of a difference.

I wont buy programmes,merchandise,food only my match ticket

We are making a hell of a difference in the ground, home and away

i dont spend a penny on any of that stuff either, but dont want HIM hanging from a tree.. and ok, you want to say didnt accept...same here i refuse to buy into it but still went,and wore blue.....maybe tolerate is a better word...

Debt to equity.

Let me start by saying I would prefer blue, am grateful to TG and VT for the progress we have made as a club. I would prefer that we did all that while in blue but there was no one knocking the door trying to do that for us apart from Tan.

Part of the whole package was a variety of incentives. Most VT has delivered on. The one he hasn't is the debt to equity. Bearing in mind the protests this season against the blue we are clearly not accepting the rebrand. We can't have it both ways and say we reluctantly accepted the rebrand for a debt free club. This being achieved by VT converting the debt to equity. Quite clearly we are not accepting the rebrand. VT is not blind and not a fool. He can see the blue, hear the songs about the blue and even the ones calling him a wanker and Tan out. We regularly embarrass him in front of his peers.

With all the above I wouldn't get myself entrenched long term which is what debt to equity would mean.

If we want debt to equity we have to embrace Tan and the rebrand or hope someone comes along to buy us. There isn't a middle option where he sorts the debt to equity but continues to look a fool. If I'm honest if I was in his position, as a billionaire, owning a club where the majority don't want me and make that clear I would f**k them over. Hopefully he won't do that.

You are so wrong in everything you say here.For the first 18 months you lot and Tan were bragging that only a couple of hundred were against the rebrand so in theory the rebrand was accepted and this was was confirmed by scarfgate and still the debt wasn't sorted,it's only in the last few months people are up in arms about it simply because nothing has been done and fans feels lied to,your argument is nonsense and holds no water...he promised to do it so it should have been done.

YOU LOT?....

(Those happy to accept the rebrand)

those that did not accept it stopped going..................the rest all to different degrees accepted..very very few have i ever heard say they were happy to,,,,,,,,,........nobody except tan bragged about only a few hundred, because if you attend you could SEE the blue..........

Simon, I never accepted one bit, but I kept going, why because if we had all walked away then I honestly believe the stadium would yesterday had been Red not BLUE

I respect those that walked away, but there was never going to be enough to make a difference, by staying and fighting the cause within we have made a hell of a difference.

I wont buy programmes,merchandise,food only my match ticket

We are making a hell of a difference in the ground, home and away

i dont spend a penny on any of that stuff either, but dont want HIM hanging from a tree.. and ok, you want to say didnt accept...same here i refuse to buy into it but still went,and wore blue.....maybe tolerate is a better word...

How is TLG these days Annis?