' So The Daily Mail Reported '

We all have differing opinions as to what did or did not go on behind closed doors. Mine is simple if Malky had no prospect of winning a compensation case he would drop it. That's what he did and had to issue an apology to boot. Why would he drop it? that's the unanswerable question. My feeling is we are talking about the world of football and there will be lots of chattering going on in football circles and the truth will eventually come out. Let's see if Milky gets a managers job anytime soon. I have a feeling he wont.

I am stunned at some of the posters on here still in denial and still trying to defend Malky!!

Yes VT is clueless and has played a huge part in spoiling our first premier league appearance! But come on its clear that MM and Moody have been caught red handed with VT holding some serious evidence against them. For them to now release these apologies and going back with their tails between their legs is very suspicious! But still Malky can do no wrong!

I've never slated Malky but this certainly doesn't portray him and moody in a good light at all!

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

Fair enough.......I just think you are 100% wrong.............Mr new poster.....whoever you were before.......

I am stunned at some of the posters on here still in denial and still trying to defend Malky!!

Yes VT is clueless and has played a huge part in spoiling our first premier league appearance! But come on its clear that MM and Moody have been caught red handed with VT holding some serious evidence against them. For them to now release these apologies and going back with their tails between their legs is very suspicious! But still Malky can do no wrong!

I've never slated Malky but this certainly doesn't portray him and moody in a good light at all!

Short straight to the point and correct. Good post just like add. Some will not accept the truth not because they can not see it they just don't want to.for them to accept it would leave to much egg on certain people's face.

I am stunned at some of the posters on here still in denial and still trying to defend Malky!!

Yes VT is clueless and has played a huge part in spoiling our first premier league appearance! But come on its clear that MM and Moody have been caught red handed with VT holding some serious evidence against them. For them to now release these apologies and going back with their tails between their legs is very suspicious! But still Malky can do no wrong!

I've never slated Malky but this certainly doesn't portray him and moody in a good light at all!

Short straight to the point and correct. Good post just like add. Some will not accept the truth not because they can not see it they just don't want to.for them to accept it would leave to much egg on certain people's face.

This^^^ All Milky lovers not so smug anymore!!!

I am stunned at some of the posters on here still in denial and still trying to defend Malky!!

Yes VT is clueless and has played a huge part in spoiling our first premier league appearance! But come on its clear that MM and Moody have been caught red handed with VT holding some serious evidence against them. For them to now release these apologies and going back with their tails between their legs is very suspicious! But still Malky can do no wrong!

I've never slated Malky but this certainly doesn't portray him and moody in a good light at all!

Short straight to the point and correct. Good post just like add. Some will not accept the truth not because they can not see it they just don't want to.for them to accept it would leave to much egg on certain people's face.

This^^^ All Milky lovers not so smug anymore!!!

So what exactly has Malky done wrong then besides apologising in case he had offended anyone?

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

not clear...................your kidding......only a few weeks ago Tan banned MOODY from our main stand had to sit in the away end,then reports him to the FA, this having sacked him, and then belittle his job.........now read Moodys statement.....
grovel grovel lick lick.....without actually going into details,itwas made pretty obvious who held the high ground.......it wasnt and never is those that grovel

I am stunned at some of the posters on here still in denial and still trying to defend Malky!!

Yes VT is clueless and has played a huge part in spoiling our first premier league appearance! But come on its clear that MM and Moody have been caught red handed with VT holding some serious evidence against them. For them to now release these apologies and going back with their tails between their legs is very suspicious! But still Malky can do no wrong!

I've never slated Malky but this certainly doesn't portray him and moody in a good light at all!

Short straight to the point and correct. Good post just like add. Some will not accept the truth not because they can not see it they just don't want to.for them to accept it would leave to much egg on certain people's face.

This^^^ All Milky lovers not so smug anymore!!!

So what exactly has Malky done wrong then besides apologising in case he had offended anyone?

Let's be go honest it could be anything but they must be pretty nervous to suddenly come out with these apologies out of the blue! It'll be interesting if or when itcomes out !

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

not clear...................your kidding......only a few weeks ago Tan banned MOODY from our main stand had to sit in the away end,then reports him to the FA, this having sacked him, and then belittle his job.........now read Moodys statement.....
grovel grovel lick lick.....without actually going into details,itwas made pretty obvious who held the high ground.......it wasnt and never is those that grovel

Not kidding at all so I'll ask again what specifically has MM apologised for ?

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

not clear...................your kidding......only a few weeks ago Tan banned MOODY from our main stand had to sit in the away end,then reports him to the FA, this having sacked him, and then belittle his job.........now read Moodys statement.....
grovel grovel lick lick.....without actually going into details,itwas made pretty obvious who held the high ground.......it wasnt and never is those that grovel

Not kidding at all so I'll ask again what specifically has MM apologised for ?

I'll answer it if this WUM wont CB.

MM is apologising IF he had offended. Simple really.

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

not clear...................your kidding......only a few weeks ago Tan banned MOODY from our main stand had to sit in the away end,then reports him to the FA, this having sacked him, and then belittle his job.........now read Moodys statement.....
grovel grovel lick lick.....without actually going into details,itwas made pretty obvious who held the high ground.......it wasnt and never is those that grovel

Not kidding at all so I'll ask again what specifically has MM apologised for ?

I'll answer it if this WUM wont CB.

MM is apologising IF he had offended. Simple really.

Bit light on detail this one Ian like the claim that VT banned Moody from the boardroom for the Palace game. That turned out to be bullshit by some local rag in Croydon which later had to issue an apology to VT.

The pathetic apology says it all for me. What kind of man with any self respect would take a previous employeer for unfair dismissal and them release a pathetic apology like that.
Wanting the Norwich job makes no difference. It puts malky a very bad light to the vast majority so anyone who thinks he did this of his own kind will is mad.

You are correct.

1) If he had such a strong case against Tan then why settle? Only someone with doubt and lack of funds would settle mid proceedings and lack of funds doesn't come into it as I believe the LMA's legal team assist in that regard

2) If you're on course for a compensation payout, something he was told he had a very strong case for winning earlier on when this all come out, again why would you drop the case?

3) If you want your reputation to remain as highly as it is/was then why do you settle and refuse to let the truth come out? Surely, if you've done no wrong then the very fact it could all come out only goes to strengthen your side of the argument.

4) As you correctly pointed out, wanting the Norwich job has no bearing whatsoever. There are loads and loads of people in employment taking action against previous employers or fellow colleagues for various reasons. Is Malky some sort of special person now who can't do that?

5) The settling in this case only goes to show me that both parties have done wrong and it's in the interests of both to not let this enter the public domain. It goes to further emphasise the complete circus our club has become and the only losers are us fans who have to put up with this theatrical nonsense. I believe Malky and Moody have done wrong and I also believe Lim and Tan have done wrong. I believe they are all liable proportionally for the events that happened last season yet all of them acted in a completely undignified manner trying to pass the buck on to the other to ensure they came out of it smelling of roses. Of course, this is just speculation and I do believe Tan had something on Malky because why else would you settle? I honestly don't believe his case was as strong as certain people claimed. You don't settle if you have a strong case. You pursue it.

Unfortunately for us fans, this raises more questions than answers, which is what we've been used to now for years and years. We never seem to get straight up answers and just more rubbish fed to us and the circus continues. The fans are the only losers here.

I don't respect Malky, I don't respect Moody, I don't respect Lim and I don't respect Tan. All of them in my opinion have played their part in one of the biggest circus acts in the history of Cardiff City FC and arguably football from the rebrand to the hiring of an inexperienced painter to the signing of Cornelius and now this court case and so on. Why should they get any respect from any of us?

The pathetic apology says it all for me. What kind of man with any self respect would take a previous employeer for unfair dismissal and them release a pathetic apology like that.
Wanting the Norwich job makes no difference. It puts malky a very bad light to the vast majority so anyone who thinks he did this of his own kind will is mad.

You are correct.

1) If he had such a strong case against Tan then why settle? Only someone with doubt and lack of funds would settle mid proceedings and lack of funds doesn't come into it as I believe the LMA's legal team assist in that regard

2) If you're on course for a compensation payout, something he was told he had a very strong case for winning earlier on when this all come out, again why would you drop the case?

3) If you want your reputation to remain as highly as it is/was then why do you settle and refuse to let the truth come out? Surely, if you've done no wrong then the very fact it could all come out only goes to strengthen your side of the argument.

4) As you correctly pointed out, wanting the Norwich job has no bearing whatsoever. There are loads and loads of people in employment taking action against previous employers or fellow colleagues for various reasons. Is Malky some sort of special person now who can't do that?

5) The settling in this case only goes to show me that both parties have done wrong and it's in the interests of both to not let this enter the public domain. It goes to further emphasise the complete circus our club has become and the only losers are us fans who have to put up with this theatrical nonsense. I believe Malky and Moody have done wrong and I also believe Lim and Tan have done wrong. I believe they are all liable proportionally for the events that happened last season yet all of them acted in a completely undignified manner trying to pass the buck on to the other to ensure they came out of it smelling of roses. Of course, this is just speculation and I do believe Tan had something on Malky because why else would you settle? I honestly don't believe his case was as strong as certain people claimed. You don't settle if you have a strong case. You pursue it.

Unfortunately for us fans, this raises more questions than answers, which is what we've been used to now for years and years. We never seem to get straight up answers and just more rubbish fed to us and the circus continues. The fans are the only losers here.

I don't respect Malky, I don't respect Moody, I don't respect Lim and I don't respect Tan. All of them in my opinion have played their part in one of the biggest circus acts in the history of Cardiff City FC and arguably football from the rebrand to the hiring of an inexperienced painter to the signing of Cornelius and now this court case and so on. Why should they get any respect from any of us?

Good post that fair play and I would like to add just one thing and that relates to your question Why settle?

In my opinion this was always going to be settled because there is an absolute ceiling on the level of awards that ET can give, at the moment I believe that is £74k. Now I have no idea what MM was earning as manager of Cardiff City but I would think that somewhere around £20k per week wouldn't be that far off the mark. That the begs the question of what was the minimum notice period detailed in his contract of employment and how much is that worth compared to the maximum award in an ET. I bet it was worth more than 4 weeks salary.

In my opinion that is far more likely to be the reason he, like all other sacked managers, settled outside an ET because anyone employed in the football industry nowadays lives outside of the bubble ordinary people do and thier contracts give them a far higher sum than the maximum award available in a ET.

I agree absolutely with you that, at some level, they ALL share blame in this whole sorry mess.

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

not clear...................your kidding......only a few weeks ago Tan banned MOODY from our main stand had to sit in the away end,then reports him to the FA, this having sacked him, and then belittle his job.........now read Moodys statement.....
grovel grovel lick lick.....without actually going into details,itwas made pretty obvious who held the high ground.......it wasnt and never is those that grovel

Not kidding at all so I'll ask again what specifically has MM apologised for ?

I'll answer it if this WUM wont CB.

MM is apologising IF he had offended. Simple really.

WUM???? not a WUM at all mate. Name calling? Some mod you are, behave yourself be a good lil boy now

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

not clear...................your kidding......only a few weeks ago Tan banned MOODY from our main stand had to sit in the away end,then reports him to the FA, this having sacked him, and then belittle his job.........now read Moodys statement.....
grovel grovel lick lick.....without actually going into details,itwas made pretty obvious who held the high ground.......it wasnt and never is those that grovel

Not kidding at all so I'll ask again what specifically has MM apologised for ?

I'll answer it if this WUM wont CB.

MM is apologising IF he had offended. Simple really.

WUM???? not a WUM at all mate. Name calling? Some mod you are, behave yourself be a good lil boy now

Some MOD's are very 1 sided on the malky v tan situation! Malky can do no wrong in some supporters eyes. Even after these apologies!

Most MODS are ok. We all have our own opinions ( all fans and all opinions welcome yeah right as long as they conform to certain peoples opiniions on here). I don't agree with this particular chaps opinions sometimes but I would never go calling him or anyone else a WUM. Annis you need to be careful who you trust with modding this forum it does you no favours at all when your mods abuse their authority. I will be keeping this as a screenshot in case my post is edited in any way. Perhaps this MOD will abuse his power even further now by banning me as I have the temerity to question his behaviour

Most MODS are ok. We all have our own opinions ( all fans and all opinions welcome yeah right as long as they conform to certain peoples opiniions on here). I don't agree with this particular chaps opinions sometimes but I would never go calling him or anyone else a WUM. Annis you need to be careful who you trust with modding this forum it does you no favours at all when your mods abuse their authority. I will be keeping this as a screenshot in case my post is edited in any way. Perhaps this MOD will abuse his power even further now by banning me as I have the temerity to question his behaviour

Even mods are allowed opinions. Just keep that in mind ok.

Your a bit paranoid with mod power are you not. Trust me if I was to ban you I would have done that a long time ago.

While we are at it how about answering the question CB asked?

Most MODS are ok. We all have our own opinions ( all fans and all opinions welcome yeah right as long as they conform to certain peoples opiniions on here). I don't agree with this particular chaps opinions sometimes but I would never go calling him or anyone else a WUM. Annis you need to be careful who you trust with modding this forum it does you no favours at all when your mods abuse their authority. I will be keeping this as a screenshot in case my post is edited in any way. Perhaps this MOD will abuse his power even further now by banning me as I have the temerity to question his behaviour

Even mods are allowed opinions. Just keep that in mind ok.

Your a bit paranoid with mod power are you not. Trust me if I was to ban you I would have done that a long time ago.

While we are at it how about answering the question CB asked?

This. Mods are people too FFS. They shouldn't have to sacrifice freedom of speech just because they're mods.

At the end of the day none of us fans got a clue as to what was in the so called settlement, we can all give our opinion but it means nothing as we haven't got a clue

Most MODS are ok. We all have our own opinions ( all fans and all opinions welcome yeah right as long as they conform to certain peoples opiniions on here). I don't agree with this particular chaps opinions sometimes but I would never go calling him or anyone else a WUM. Annis you need to be careful who you trust with modding this forum it does you no favours at all when your mods abuse their authority. I will be keeping this as a screenshot in case my post is edited in any way. Perhaps this MOD will abuse his power even further now by banning me as I have the temerity to question his behaviour

Even mods are allowed opinions. Just keep that in mind ok.

Your a bit paranoid with mod power are you not. Trust me if I was to ban you I would have done that a long time ago.

While we are at it how about answering the question CB asked?

is that a request or an order? I have given my opinion but don't call me a WUM for having that opinion, have the humility to apologise rather than dig your hole deeper and no I'm not paranoid either, are you telling me you or any other mod don't edit posts? Yes of course your allowed your opinion and so is every other forum member or are they? You don't have to agree with me and vice versa but no need to resort to insults. For those that don't know a WUM is a wind up merchant and that I am not, I just have a differing opinion to others. This would be a boring place without differing opinions.

At the end of the day none of us fans got a clue as to what was in the so called settlement, we can all give our opinion but it means nothing as we haven't got a clue

Spot on

So we cant call Malky or Tan right or wrong on this one.

Most MODS are ok. We all have our own opinions ( all fans and all opinions welcome yeah right as long as they conform to certain peoples opiniions on here). I don't agree with this particular chaps opinions sometimes but I would never go calling him or anyone else a WUM. Annis you need to be careful who you trust with modding this forum it does you no favours at all when your mods abuse their authority. I will be keeping this as a screenshot in case my post is edited in any way. Perhaps this MOD will abuse his power even further now by banning me as I have the temerity to question his behaviour

Even mods are allowed opinions. Just keep that in mind ok.

Your a bit paranoid with mod power are you not. Trust me if I was to ban you I would have done that a long time ago.

While we are at it how about answering the question CB asked?

is that a request or an order? I have given my opinion but don't call me a WUM for having that opinion, have the humility to apologise rather than dig your hole deeper and no I'm not paranoid either, are you telling me you or any other mod don't edit posts? Yes of course your allowed your opinion and so is every other forum member or are they? You don't have to agree with me and vice versa but no need to resort to insults. For those that don't know a WUM is a wind up merchant and that I am not, I just have a differing opinion to others. This would be a boring place without differing opinions.

Just try answering the question you WUM.

At the end of the day none of us fans got a clue as to what was in the so called settlement, we can all give our opinion but it means nothing as we haven't got a clue

Spot on

So we cant call Malky or Tan right or wrong on this one.

Correct but we can have an opinion can't we without being called a WUM after all this is a forum where all fans and their opinions are welcome isn't it Annis?

Most MODS are ok. We all have our own opinions ( all fans and all opinions welcome yeah right as long as they conform to certain peoples opiniions on here). I don't agree with this particular chaps opinions sometimes but I would never go calling him or anyone else a WUM. Annis you need to be careful who you trust with modding this forum it does you no favours at all when your mods abuse their authority. I will be keeping this as a screenshot in case my post is edited in any way. Perhaps this MOD will abuse his power even further now by banning me as I have the temerity to question his behaviour

Even mods are allowed opinions. Just keep that in mind ok.

Your a bit paranoid with mod power are you not. Trust me if I was to ban you I would have done that a long time ago.

While we are at it how about answering the question CB asked?

is that a request or an order? I have given my opinion but don't call me a WUM for having that opinion, have the humility to apologise rather than dig your hole deeper and no I'm not paranoid either, are you telling me you or any other mod don't edit posts? Yes of course your allowed your opinion and so is every other forum member or are they? You don't have to agree with me and vice versa but no need to resort to insults. For those that don't know a WUM is a wind up merchant and that I am not, I just have a differing opinion to others. This would be a boring place without differing opinions.

Just try answering the question you WUM.

I don't respond to insults

Most MODS are ok. We all have our own opinions ( all fans and all opinions welcome yeah right as long as they conform to certain peoples opiniions on here). I don't agree with this particular chaps opinions sometimes but I would never go calling him or anyone else a WUM. Annis you need to be careful who you trust with modding this forum it does you no favours at all when your mods abuse their authority. I will be keeping this as a screenshot in case my post is edited in any way. Perhaps this MOD will abuse his power even further now by banning me as I have the temerity to question his behaviour

Even mods are allowed opinions. Just keep that in mind ok.

Your a bit paranoid with mod power are you not. Trust me if I was to ban you I would have done that a long time ago.

While we are at it how about answering the question CB asked?

is that a request or an order? I have given my opinion but don't call me a WUM for having that opinion, have the humility to apologise rather than dig your hole deeper and no I'm not paranoid either, are you telling me you or any other mod don't edit posts? Yes of course your allowed your opinion and so is every other forum member or are they? You don't have to agree with me and vice versa but no need to resort to insults. For those that don't know a WUM is a wind up merchant and that I am not, I just have a differing opinion to others. This would be a boring place without differing opinions.

Just try answering the question you WUM.

I don't respond to insults

That's alright because I can't remember the question now.

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

not clear...................your kidding......only a few weeks ago Tan banned MOODY from our main stand had to sit in the away end,then reports him to the FA, this having sacked him, and then belittle his job.........now read Moodys statement.....
grovel grovel lick lick.....without actually going into details,itwas made pretty obvious who held the high ground.......it wasnt and never is those that grovel

Not kidding at all so I'll ask again what specifically has MM apologised for ?

seriously..if you dont get this...........there is no point talking with you......you obviously pray to his efigy every day and send him half your wages.............

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

not clear...................your kidding......only a few weeks ago Tan banned MOODY from our main stand had to sit in the away end,then reports him to the FA, this having sacked him, and then belittle his job.........now read Moodys statement.....
grovel grovel lick lick.....without actually going into details,itwas made pretty obvious who held the high ground.......it wasnt and never is those that grovel

Not kidding at all so I'll ask again what specifically has MM apologised for ?

seriously..if you dont get this...........there is no point talking with you......you obviously pray to his efigy every day and send him half your wages.............

Yes seriously, Specifically what has MM apologised for. Never mind the other embellishments you have added which seems to be a trait of your posts surely you can answer such a simple question. Surely.

If I was Malky Mackay. I would ask myself why on earth would I drop a compensation claim against my former employers worth potentially (if you listen to the media) anything between £2 million and £7 million to myself and have to pay legal fees in the tens of thousands of pounds (if not more) no doubt and then embarrassingly have to make an unreserved apology to said previous employer? Answer simple!!! -because said employer has something on me to counter any possible claim. Who knows what that something is but it must be something very serious to drop a multi million pound compensation case. Have Malky and Moody been naughty boys while under the employment of Cardiff City Football club? I know what I think but I leave you all to draw your own conclusions!!!

Perhaps they settle for the full amount with a caveat that an apology of some sort was given. If you were offered that what would you do?

Ian you and I both know that if MM had resigned when VT had asked him to one of two things would have happened;

1: MM would have continued as manager of Cardiff City FC until he had worked his notice period or;

2: Cardiff City would have allowed him to leave immediately and paid him in lieu of notice. A.K.A Gardening Leave.


MM wasn't prepared to leave on either of that basis so he waited to be sacked and has now agreed a payment probably somewhere between his minimum notice period and the full value of his contract. The lame attempt at an apology just muddies the waters as far as I'm concerned. Just a case of MM doing what he had to do to get as much money in his departure bag as possible.

Thats exactly my outlook on it. We will never know how much was offered on the table.

The apology is having the desired effect on some on here though. To me its nothing.

if you mean the statement was OTT yes, obviously written to allow no doubt what so ever as to who was in the wrong......
very direct,very very clear............but not to you........i dont think they were tortured, but were over a barrel .

OK I must be missing something if the "Apology" was direct and very very clear then what specifically has MM apologised for.

not clear...................your kidding......only a few weeks ago Tan banned MOODY from our main stand had to sit in the away end,then reports him to the FA, this having sacked him, and then belittle his job.........now read Moodys statement.....
grovel grovel lick lick.....without actually going into details,itwas made pretty obvious who held the high ground.......it wasnt and never is those that grovel

Not kidding at all so I'll ask again what specifically has MM apologised for ?

seriously..if you dont get this...........there is no point talking with you......you obviously pray to his efigy every day and send him half your wages.............

Yes seriously, Specifically what has MM apologised for. Never mind the other embellishments you have added which seems to be a trait of your posts surely you can answer such a simple question. Surely.

look..if what you think of yesterdays statement........is tan gave Malky lots of dosh..and in return him and moody gave that cringey arse licking apology....get on with it........google pedantic..........its a trait of yours