Envious: ' Leicester City Promoted No Debt and stayed Blue '

Pains me to say it, but if you wanna see a club thats gone about it the right way, then look no further than swansea

Pains me to say it, but if you wanna see a club thats gone about it the right way, then look no further than swansea

Yeah now they are maybe, but they shafted people along the way so far from the perfect example.

Pains me to say it, but if you wanna see a club thats gone about it the right way, then look no further than .......

Stoke City.

Includes taking massive fees off us for Kav and Thorne. Invested it well and passed us on their way to the Premier League where they have remained.

Pains me to say it, but if you wanna see a club thats gone about it the right way, then look no further than swansea

Yeah now they are maybe, but they shafted people along the way so far from the perfect example.

Im glad you pointed that out to me mate, my last post i think is the only time ive ever complemented swansea, i can now retract it

Pains me to say it, but if you wanna see a club thats gone about it the right way, then look no further than .......

Stoke City.

Includes taking massive fees off us for Kav and Thorne. Invested it well and passed us on their way to the Premier League where they have remained.

I make you right there wayne

Pains me to say it, but if you wanna see a club thats gone about it the right way, then look no further than .......

Stoke City.

Includes taking massive fees off us for Kav and Thorne. Invested it well and passed us on their way to the Premier League where they have remained.

Problem is, their model relies on stupid clubs like us willing to overpay for players using money we didn;t have.

The perfect club would be one that didn't sell players to clubs that were spending outside their means!

Pains me to say it, but if you wanna see a club thats gone about it the right way, then look no further than .......

Stoke City.

Includes taking massive fees off us for Kav and Thorne. Invested it well and passed us on their way to the Premier League where they have remained.

Problem is, their model relies on stupid clubs like us willing to overpay for players using money we didn;t have.

The perfect club would be one that didn't sell players to clubs that were spending outside their means!

no their model relies on a wealthy local benefactor willing to subsidise to tens of millions. They lost 30m last season alone.

Swansea City FC since this board took full control and responsibility for its own spending are without any question THE model for all clubs to follow.

The right way couldn't of picked a worse team

They're not debt free are they as the owners will want their £300m or what ever it is back won't they?

This Paul Evans guy is just another blogger with an ego that rivals Roathie.

Chris he has a point in that article, because I am envious.

But guess what Evans was one of the 12 at the first meeting and actually stated " He did not care about our colour "

And as I've mentioned plenty of times on the other board Annis, I have no problem in admitting that I was wrong because it turns out that I missed us playing in blue an awful lot more than I thought I would and this, together with things like scarfgate and the failure to stick to promises about the debt to equity swap, makes me far more anti red than I was two years ago.

My reference to Leicester and the financial side of things was entirely down to what their current owners have done - they have delivered when it comes to a debt to equity swap and Vincent Tan still hasn't despite us being told at those meetings you refer to that one was "imminent". I don't see why Leicester's current owners can't be praised for what they've done because of something that happened eight years before they took over.

Pains me to say it, but if you wanna see a club thats gone about it the right way, then look no further than swansea

They've gone into admin twice, shafting local businesses and HMRC in the process. They've made massive profits the last few years and still won't pay the people they shafted. Right way? My ass!

Bob, no blame is being levelled at the current Leicester owners but they are benefiting from the situation at Leicester 8 Years ago.

Our predicament and their situation are not similar. We were fighting historical debt when Tan took over. The Leicester owners had the benefit of the historical debt being wiped out in 2002, recent seasons in the Premier League and a new stadium with no debt hanging over it.

None of this excuses the rebrand but Leicester are not a club to wish you were.

Not sure why our fans care so much about what other clubs do. Ive never been envious of anyone or anything else, vile and putrid emotion.

I'm not envious in a bad way Craig, they can be proud the way thy have won the Championship, dignity in tact,No debt

So when Sam was our owner and we won the playoff final were you not proud of the club, because we certainly had debt at that point

I was proud your right

to try to stick up for your Tan u had to bring Sam in to it

Weve all admitted Sam's faults including myself, its about time people were honest about Tan.

I believe the debt then at that date was about £3mill and We were BLUE and not Red and a £140-£150 Mill in debt and the laughing stock of the World we are now, your dam right I was proud then

Paying a non league striker 35k a week in the Championship with midfielders like their French midfielder on 40k and Drinkwater on 35k.

Pretty sure Kasper is getting a new contract worth 45k, I thought we were bad for contracts.

This Paul Evans guy is just another blogger with an ego that rivals Roathie.

Chris he has a point in that article, because I am envious.

But guess what Evans was one of the 12 at the first meeting and actually stated " He did not care about our colour "

And as I've mentioned plenty of times on the other board Annis, I have no problem in admitting that I was wrong because it turns out that I missed us playing in blue an awful lot more than I thought I would and this, together with things like scarfgate and the failure to stick to promises about the debt to equity swap, makes me far more anti red than I was two years ago.

My reference to Leicester and the financial side of things was entirely down to what their current owners have done - they have delivered when it comes to a debt to equity swap and Vincent Tan still hasn't despite us being told at those meetings you refer to that one was "imminent". I don't see why Leicester's current owners can't be praised for what they've done because of something that happened eight years before they took over.

Fair play at least you admit you were wrong

100% Got Respect for Leicester's new owner and their achievements

This Paul Evans guy is just another blogger with an ego that rivals Roathie.

Chris he has a point in that article, because I am envious.

But guess what Evans was one of the 12 at the first meeting and actually stated " He did not care about our colour "

And as I've mentioned plenty of times on the other board Annis, I have no problem in admitting that I was wrong because it turns out that I missed us playing in blue an awful lot more than I thought I would and this, together with things like scarfgate and the failure to stick to promises about the debt to equity swap, makes me far more anti red than I was two years ago.

My reference to Leicester and the financial side of things was entirely down to what their current owners have done - they have delivered when it comes to a debt to equity swap and Vincent Tan still hasn't despite us being told at those meetings you refer to that one was "imminent". I don't see why Leicester's current owners can't be praised for what they've done because of something that happened eight years before they took over.

So your envious of a club because the owner has changed debt to equity. The same club that has a huge history of debt and
Admin. Been bust twice and shafted companies, players, locals for millions, created a president of points deduction yet had no such penalty and even gained promotion . What you are really saying is. Tan should have put us into admin not paid our bills, re-grouped after admin and changed any of his future debt incured into equity. You obviously have double standards and condone clubs shafting others for the benefit of themselves. How does any debt effect you thats Tans concern lm only pleased and proud of Cardiff City and thanks toTans money for avoiding admim or worse, at the same time remaining the only Welsh Club in the English league never to have entered admin. There are a few out there that have stuck to their guns, however the Echo, The Trust, the notice boards and many like yourself have not and dont give the bull that you couldnt get used it , Talk about run with hare and chase with the hounds you couldnt make it up.

Leicester have only recently paid off their debts. They will soon be in the red again. No envy here, have you been to Leicester?

Not sure why our fans care so much about what other clubs do. Ive never been envious of anyone or anything else, vile and putrid emotion.

I'm not envious in a bad way Craig, they can be proud the way thy have won the Championship, dignity in tact,No debt

So when Sam was our owner and we won the playoff final were you not proud of the club, because we certainly had debt at that point

I was proud your right

to try to stick up for your Tan u had to bring Sam in to it

Weve all admitted Sam's faults including myself, its about time people were honest about Tan.

I believe the debt then at that date was about £3mill and We were BLUE and not Red and a £140-£150 Mill in debt and the laughing stock of the World we are now, your dam right I was proud then

Annis yet again you say i'm pro Tan "sticking up for your Tan as you said" please show me where I have ever said i am pro tan, you said it a few times now. I wear Blue home and away I didn't start singing a song about Ole getting sacked in the morning unlike you and your mate, you keep on about our debt and the figure keeps changing so that tells me you haven't got a clue what it is. At the end of the day i'm Blue through and through so as I have said show me where I have said i'm red, if you don't like my posts don't try to make me out as something i'm not

Not sure why our fans care so much about what other clubs do. Ive never been envious of anyone or anything else, vile and putrid emotion.

I'm not envious in a bad way Craig, they can be proud the way thy have won the Championship, dignity in tact,No debt

So when Sam was our owner and we won the playoff final were you not proud of the club, because we certainly had debt at that point

I was proud your right

to try to stick up for your Tan u had to bring Sam in to it

Weve all admitted Sam's faults including myself, its about time people were honest about Tan.

I believe the debt then at that date was about £3mill and We were BLUE and not Red and a £140-£150 Mill in debt and the laughing stock of the World we are now, your dam right I was proud then

Annis yet again you say i'm pro Tan "sticking up for your Tan as you said" please show me where I have ever said i am pro tan, you said it a few times now. I wear Blue home and away I didn't start singing a song about Ole getting sacked in the morning unlike you and your mate, you keep on about our debt and the figure keeps changing so that tells me you haven't got a clue what it is. At the end of the day i'm Blue through and through so as I have said show me where I have said i'm red, if you don't like my posts don't try to make me out as something i'm not

The world aren't laughing, they don't care or have a clue who we are. Don't let the goldfish bowl of S Wales media and local forums, let you for one second think, how insignificant Cardiff's plight is acknowledged. Delusions of grandeur and agendas aside, its laughable how serious people take the colour of a shirt. The ££££ is king, get used to it.
FYI I would prefer the club to be in blue, but they're not. Oh well, I'll just watch my team regardless.

If your that envious go and support them----simple

If your that envious go and support them----simple

I'm envious because were a club divided like yr sarcastic comments there,stripped of our identity,£140 mill in debt and a lunatic owner and relegated.

I wonder do u go every week no matter? if we lost week in week out, because I do and will continue to, just because I have an honest opinion not a sarcastic one like you.

Just looked at all your previous posts, u dont debate u belittle

Not sure why our fans care so much about what other clubs do. Ive never been envious of anyone or anything else, vile and putrid emotion.

I'm not envious in a bad way Craig, they can be proud the way thy have won the Championship, dignity in tact,No debt

So when Sam was our owner and we won the playoff final were you not proud of the club, because we certainly had debt at that point

I was proud your right

to try to stick up for your Tan u had to bring Sam in to it

Weve all admitted Sam's faults including myself, its about time people were honest about Tan.

I believe the debt then at that date was about £3mill and We were BLUE and not Red and a £140-£150 Mill in debt and the laughing stock of the World we are now, your dam right I was proud then

Annis yet again you say i'm pro Tan "sticking up for your Tan as you said" please show me where I have ever said i am pro tan, you said it a few times now. I wear Blue home and away I didn't start singing a song about Ole getting sacked in the morning unlike you and your mate, you keep on about our debt and the figure keeps changing so that tells me you haven't got a clue what it is. At the end of the day i'm Blue through and through so as I have said show me where I have said i'm red, if you don't like my posts don't try to make me out as something i'm not

The world aren't laughing, they don't care or have a clue who we are. Don't let the goldfish bowl of S Wales media and local forums, let you for one second think, how insignificant Cardiff's plight is acknowledged. Delusions of grandeur and agendas aside, its laughable how serious people take the colour of a shirt. The ££££ is king, get used to it.
FYI I would prefer the club to be in blue, but they're not. Oh well, I'll just watch my team regardless. [/quote

Spot on

I'm not envious of any club i support Cardiff City and wouldn't swap that for anything

I'm not envious of any club i support Cardiff City and wouldn't swap that for anything

Hear hear!

This Paul Evans guy is just another blogger with an ego that rivals Roathie.

Chris he has a point in that article, because I am envious.

But guess what Evans was one of the 12 at the first meeting and actually stated " He did not care about our colour "

Didn't you beg tan in a letter not to go?

This Paul Evans guy is just another blogger with an ego that rivals Roathie.

Chris he has a point in that article, because I am envious.

But guess what Evans was one of the 12 at the first meeting and actually stated " He did not care about our colour "

Didn't you beg tan in a letter not to go?

Your on a wind up again
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Its been a sticky for nearly 24hrs and uve been on here 24/7

Not sure why our fans care so much about what other clubs do. Ive never been envious of anyone or anything else, vile and putrid emotion.

I'm not envious in a bad way Craig, they can be proud the way thy have won the Championship, dignity in tact,No debt

So when Sam was our owner and we won the playoff final were you not proud of the club, because we certainly had debt at that point

I was proud your right

to try to stick up for your Tan u had to bring Sam in to it

Weve all admitted Sam's faults including myself, its about time people were honest about Tan.

I believe the debt then at that date was about £3mill and We were BLUE and not Red and a £140-£150 Mill in debt and the laughing stock of the World we are now, your dam right I was proud then

The amount of debt is irrelevant. It's whether or not you can afford to pay the debt or not is the issue. Under Sam Hammam we weren't able to pay our debt and rather than Sam putting more money in he decided to sell players and sacrifice the club. At least tan is paying off debts and isn't putting the club into more debt than it can afford. You need to stop this Sam Hammam love in he's the worst owner we have ever had who only cared about himself. He wanted to do pretty much everything tan has done but wasn't rich or powerful enough that's the only difference.

I am not envious, I think they deserve it, they were a bit like us missing out for years and years, now they have made it....

Not strictly true because they went into administration to get rid of their debt.