And now you're going to believe us

BU - right ideas, wrong execution.

Despite numerous BU members sending abuse to Tan's niece?

This was proved to be wrong. They didn't abuse her & she wasn't Tan's niece.

She was a friend of Tans family and she was sent tweets . Wasn'st one of the culprits on a disciplinary from his work for tweeting her

The BU had more agendas than what's on this forum

The only agenda we had was the return to blue and our rightful identity. What is wrong with that? I thought all Cardiff fans wanted the same?

Not quite true. We don't need Bluebirds Unite for the majority of the fans want to play in blue anyway. It was the race hate agenda and anti Malaysian sentiment voiced by a few affiliating themselves with BU, as well as the Tan out message that some found repugnant.

These allegations of racism are baseless and there is still not one shred of proof. You may think we are a racist organisation but we are absolutely not and we have many ethnic minority members. I for one would not be associated with a race hate group.

Despite numerous BU members sending abuse to Tan's niece?

Proof?

How about answering other posts on here but of course that's not you style

I have nothing to say to you and the poets whose name you take would not be impressed with one of Wales' institutions being rebranded.

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BU - right ideas, wrong execution.

Despite numerous BU members sending abuse to Tan's niece?

This was proved to be wrong. They didn't abuse her & she wasn't Tan's niece.

She was a friend of Tans family and she was sent tweets . Wasn'st one of the culprits on a disciplinary from his work for tweeting her

That is absolute nonsense.

She was a friend of Tans family and she was sent tweets . Wasn'st one of the culprits on a disciplinary from his work for tweeting her

No she wasn't. No tweet was sent to her that was of an abusive nature. The abuse was aimed at Tan.

I didn't support Bluebirds Unite as you weren't extreme enough. You were entitled to your views but I found a lot of it laughable and a lot of it was done politically as opposed to what needed to be done through actual action. I'll try to explain further.

1) You refused to say Tan Out for ages and this was done so those on the fence would support you
2) You thought you could educate Tan to respect the clubs values - its always been obvious he doesn't care
3) Other than the remembering of our tradition, which I'm perfectly capable of as an individual, I saw no other benefit of supporting Bluebirds Unite as there was no affirmative action in removing Tan from the club by forcing him out

I would have supported a Tan Out campaign but one didn't exist. I saw it as entirely black and white all the time yet Bluebirds Unite drifted in this grey area. I still respect your views but just didn't agree with most of them or how you were going about them as I didn't see them achieving anything. It has always been as simple as below for me:

1) Tan is forced out of the club by a disgruntled fan base who through unity refuse to go to games and fund him, make his life hell outside the ground by chanting at him to leave, go on national media and tell him time and time again we want him out, ensure that he doesn't feel wanted in Cardiff and so on. We then by force regain our club regardless of the financial consequences attached and rebuild it.

2) Fans continue to buy tickets and/or merchandise and pay into Tan's club, not ours. We keep flirting around the issue and don't make it vehemently known to Tan that we are not happy. He continues his ownership and the chaos and circus continues and sooner or later the club goes bang and we have to rebuild anyway.

Logically, I've always seen it as Tan out equates to a return to blue unless we're unfortunate enough to land another crazy owner. Whilst he is here we'll always be red. It's always been that simple. The notion of educating him was and still is laughable. Not enough fans were/are willing to go through hell and back to force him out and get the clubs traditions back.

A lot of Bluebirds Unite fans shared that same view and sat on the fence. There has only been a distinct minority of Bluebirds Unite fans who have said they wouldn't care if Tan went and they were Sian, Simon and a few others who I communicate with on Facebook. However, this small group of people alone can't force Tan out. The whole fan base needs to unite to reclaim what is rightfully ours.

She was a friend of Tans family and she was sent tweets . Wasn'st one of the culprits on a disciplinary from his work for tweeting her

No she wasn't. No tweet was sent to her that was of an abusive nature. The abuse was aimed at Tan.

The tweet wasn't sent to Tan it was sent to the girl (what was the point of that ) even if it was aimed at Tan and yes I did see it . The boy concerned works or worked for BCBC I'll say again who in their right mind sends messages to someone they don't know who has nothing to to With Cardiff City other than they might know someone at the club to vent their anger

The tweet wasn't sent to Tan it was sent to the girl (what was the point of that )

I am well aware of who it was sent to, Tan is not on twitter.

even if it was aimed at Tan and yes I did see it .

Good, so you now accept that you were wrong to say that he abused the girl & that she was Tan's niece?

The boy concerned works or worked for BCBC I'll say again who in their right mind sends messages to someone they don't know who has nothing to to With Cardiff City other than they might know someone at the club to vent their anger

I agree. It's wrong. Just as wrong as your original post was.

The tweet wasn't sent to Tan it was sent to the girl (what was the point of that )

I am well aware of who it was sent to, Tan is not on twitter.

even if it was aimed at Tan and yes I did see it .

Good, so you now accept that you were wrong to say that he abused the girl & that she was Tan's niece?

The boy concerned works or worked for BCBC I'll say again who in their right mind sends messages to someone they don't know who has nothing to to With Cardiff City other than they might know someone at the club to vent their anger

I agree. It's wrong. Just as wrong as your original post was.

Where did Dylanthomas say that she was Tan's niece

The BU was always right, the BU was always right....

The amount of abuse we as a group have taken this season by pathetic reds and their superiority complex and it turns out we were the ones who were in the right the whole time. We warned you about Tan the moment he got his grubby little fingers on to our club, we warned you he wouldn't give Malky the correct support and we warned you under his ownership this season would be a disaster, we warned you the red wasn't lucky and we warned you he was a poisonous dictator.

Instead of joining us you belittled and mocked us and you thought we would go away. You made up rumours about our group and spread likes that we were a bunch of racist thugs. You have got the club you deserve, a big red ugly Malaysian souless club.

Enjoy it while you can because next season we are fighting back and we are fighting back hard.

TAN OUT

We would have gone down in blue anyway though as our players are sh!t and we can't string 3 passes together.

Where did Dylanthomas say that she was Tan's niece

Quite right, Apologies. It was Jordan who said that.

He did, however, say that she was a friend of the family, which is incorrect, the girl herself said that she doesn't know Tan at all, just one of his admirers.

Where did Dylanthomas say that she was Tan's niece

Quite right, Apologies. It was Jordan who said that.

He did, however, say that she was a friend of the family, which is incorrect, the girl herself said that she doesn't know Tan at all, just one of his admirers.

She was a friend of Tans family and she was sent tweets . Wasn'st one of the culprits on a disciplinary from his work for tweeting her

No she wasn't. No tweet was sent to her that was of an abusive nature. The abuse was aimed at Tan.

So that make its ok?

So that make its ok?

Where have I said that? I was just correcting a few untruths told in this thread.

I wrote on a few BU threads saying they were doing it wrong and only received abuse!

So that make its ok?

Where have I said that? I was just correcting a few untruths told in this thread.

FFS give it a rest Alex.

I wrote on a few BU threads saying they were doing it wrong and only received abuse!

You have been a proven liar, when people are accused of being racists off course they are going to respond in an abusive manner.

Wouldnt give Malky the correct support???

£60m in 2 seasons is more than enough support.

Why does the manager issue revolve around rebrand??? Totally seperate issues.

CraigCCFC in defending Tan shocker.

I am not talking about financial support although we all know Tan was the one signing the cheques and forcing Malky to sign big money players. He didn't give Malky a good working environment and was forever on his back meddling in team affairs. It will all come out this summer.

The reason the two issues are intertwined is because reds saw Malky as a threat to Tan.

who are these reds??? none on this board so not sure why you should mention it on here?
as for coming out? i doubt it still waiting for the hundred and one other truths to come out (sam ect ect ) still waiting years after it was anounced truh will come out!

Wouldnt give Malky the correct support???

£60m in 2 seasons is more than enough support.

Why does the manager issue revolve around rebrand??? Totally seperate issues.

CraigCCFC in defending Tan shocker.

I am not talking about financial support although we all know Tan was the one signing the cheques and forcing Malky to sign big money players. He didn't give Malky a good working environment and was forever on his back meddling in team affairs. It will all come out this summer.

The reason the two issues are intertwined is because reds saw Malky as a threat to Tan.

who are these reds??? none on this board so not sure why you should mention it on here?
as for coming out? i doubt it still waiting for the hundred and one other truths to come out (sam ect ect ) still waiting years after it was anounced truh will come out!

I would argue that you are a red but that's an argument for another day.

Wouldnt give Malky the correct support???

£60m in 2 seasons is more than enough support.

Why does the manager issue revolve around rebrand??? Totally seperate issues.

CraigCCFC in defending Tan shocker.

I am not talking about financial support although we all know Tan was the one signing the cheques and forcing Malky to sign big money players. He didn't give Malky a good working environment and was forever on his back meddling in team affairs. It will all come out this summer.

The reason the two issues are intertwined is because reds saw Malky as a threat to Tan.

who are these reds??? none on this board so not sure why you should mention it on here?
as for coming out? i doubt it still waiting for the hundred and one other truths to come out (sam ect ect ) still waiting years after it was anounced truh will come out!

I would argue that you are a red but that's an argument for another day.

I would argue you are a c unt.