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Re: Dave Jones Says Solskjaer was not the right manager for

Mon May 05, 2014 1:18 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:Spot on Dave. thats why malky also had to go. He was totally cluesless in the prem, to inexperienced. Ole was also not the right man at that time, but should now be given a shot at building his own team.


This is to do with Ole and his inability but don't let that stop your agenda on here.

Interesting statement reading the article and the post that follows. Seems a lot put their own words into it.

Re: Dave Jones Says Solskjaer was not the right manager for

Mon May 05, 2014 1:34 pm

Jinks wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Jinks wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:Spot on Dave. thats why malky also had to go. He was totally cluesless in the prem, to inexperienced. Ole was also not the right man at that time, but should now be given a shot at building his own team.


This is to do with Ole and his inability but don't let that stop your agenda on here.


Ian, he certainly does have an agenda, even if the topic is nothing to do with Malky, he will bring Malky in to it. Bloodyhell our fan base has changed massively.


Annis im astonished and shocked the way you have been on the managers back for almost day one i cant believe you have not backed a new manager and given him time like other managers..
You seem to be enjoying posting anything that is having a go at ole?
malky wasn't perfect but you never posted constant threads about his mistakes just blamed tan or anyone else..


i think if you look back your wrong Jinks,Annis was on Malkys back at certain periods.....


Look back? i never look back on threads i don't have the time or patience :thumbright:


I have always supported the managers from the start, my opinion may change of ole after a season or two like it did with malky, but I always support the managers from the start. Any1 can check my history on my previous username, I only joined this forum last summer, but I was behind malky at the start before things come to light about his cocks up, and his style of play started to grate on me. Many users on this forum get on the managers back from the start, as threads on this forum suggest. At the end of the day malky was not good enough for the prem, and never will be. He's no Martinez, Rodgers, Pulis or Bruce even. He is a championship manager at best like the Holloways of the world.

Re: Dave Jones Says Solskjaer was not the right manager for

Mon May 05, 2014 3:15 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
davids wrote:Dave Jones can keep his opinions to himself.

When the sour faced scouse knobhead was sacked by Sheffield Wednesday, was anyone at Cardiff asked if Jones had been the right man for the Sheff Wednesday job?

I'm not interested in what Dave Jones has to say, in much the same way that he showed his complete and utter contempt for me and all other City fans during his time here as manager.

The last thing we need to hear again is how expectations are unrealistic "in this part of the world" and how we need to dust ourseves down and go again.

Players are rarely successful whin returning to a former club and it's the same with managers.

Cannot understand why anyone would want him back managing our club.


because he did a great job?..was honest about it just being a job?
but for some insincerity, fist pumps , ayahtolahs,photos and autographs do the trick eh


Did a great job?

Consistently failed to get promotion.
Had an appalling record of coming back to win when going behind.
Failed to play an outstanding young player in the Cup Final.
Ruined the confidence of a fine young player by publicly blaming him for a defeat at Ipswich.
Was predictable in his formation and style of play.
Signed an ageing scouse forward with a poor injury record.
Treated every derby match as just another three points.
Signed JLloyd Samuel.
Had no repect for the club, it's tradition or it's supporters. It may have been just a job to him but he did not give a shit about the fact that the club is more than that to it's supporters.

Dave Jones did a decent job in difficult circumstances for which he was rewarded handsomely with a salary that was apparently higher than some Premier League managers.

To say that he did a "great job" however is pushing it a bit.

I'm not interested in fist pumps and ayatollahs to be honest. But in the Jones era, neither he or his players made any efforts to acknowledge the support provided by the fans.

Re: Dave Jones Says Solskjaer was not the right manager for

Mon May 05, 2014 6:04 pm

Latest News wrote:Former Cardiff City boss Dave Jones criticises Bluebirds for hiring rookie Premier League manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
By Gareth Rogers

Monday 5th May 2014.

The man who took the Bluebirds to Wembley three times says they should have found a manager with Premier League experience in January.


Former Cardiff City manager Dave Jones has criticised his former club for plucking Ole Gunnar Solskjaer out of Norwegian football and throwing him straight into a Premier League relegation battle.

The former Manchester United striker, who replaced Malky Mackay in January, kicked off his Premier League career by being handed the tough task of keep the Bluebirds in the Premier League, in almost an identical situation to Felix Magath at Fulham.

After both were relegated yesterday, Jones, who led Cardiff to the FA Cup final in 2008, told Radio 5 Live: “Sometimes chairmen think it's best to bring in coaches from afar because they have knowledge but in all honesty, unless you’re managing in the top echelons of the Premier League and you've got the money to go out and get the players, it will be tough.





“Tony Pulis, Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce have all done a fantastic job because they know the division and they know how the league works.

“They know the players, they know what it takes to do well.

“They've all been through the good times as well as the bad times and when you bring in someone who hasn't got that knowledge and they dont know who to go and look for, it impacts on the football club and that makes it very difficult.”



But Jones also accepted that the players should take their fair share of the blame, accusing some of them of using the boardroom upheaval at the Cardiff City Stadium as an excuse.

The former Everton defender said: “You’ve got to remember that the arguments shouldn’t affect the players going onto the pitch.

“That can be an excuse for players. They are still training and they should be still focused and it shouldn’t have an affect on the playing side.

“They are away from the internal battles in the boardroom. It should have little impact, players have to perform and if they don't perform, that's why they go down.”



He is correct, an experienced Premier League manager is what we needed, and now we need an experienced Championship Manager.

Re: Dave Jones Says Solskjaer was not the right manager for

Mon May 05, 2014 6:36 pm

People really can't see our squad, is that the issue?
Not even Jurgen Klopp or Brendan Rodgers together would've kept us up. We have Premierships worst squad, If you disagree please tell me which one is worse!
We have starter to play way better, we will get "paid"!

Malky this and DJ that, simple sick of it!

Re: Dave Jones Says Solskjaer was not the right manager for

Mon May 05, 2014 7:05 pm

Bosse wrote:People really can't see our squad, is that the issue?
Not even Jurgen Klopp or Brendan Rodgers together would've kept us up. We have Premierships worst squad, If you disagree please tell me which one is worse!
We have starter to play way better, we will get "paid"!

Malky this and DJ that, simple sick of it!



Palace Norwich and Fulham for starters......

I agree we didn't have a premiership Striker and the majority of the defence as not good enough, but nor were any of aboves, especially Palace, Hull weren't that great either, but he strengthened well in Jan....

Re: Dave Jones Says Solskjaer was not the right manager for

Mon May 05, 2014 7:19 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Bosse wrote:People really can't see our squad, is that the issue?
Not even Jurgen Klopp or Brendan Rodgers together would've kept us up. We have Premierships worst squad, If you disagree please tell me which one is worse!
We have starter to play way better, we will get "paid"!

Malky this and DJ that, simple sick of it!



Palace Norwich and Fulham for starters......

I agree we didn't have a premiership Striker and the majority of the defence as not good enough, but nor were any of aboves, especially Palace, Hull weren't that great either, but he strengthened well in Jan....

Palace and hull got pace in midfield and a team connected with the strikers. We never did, and when we moved people upfield that same lack of pace got us killed.

Re: Dave Jones Says Solskjaer was not the right manager for

Mon May 05, 2014 7:45 pm

MarbleBlues wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Bosse wrote:People really can't see our squad, is that the issue?
Not even Jurgen Klopp or Brendan Rodgers together would've kept us up. We have Premierships worst squad, If you disagree please tell me which one is worse!
We have starter to play way better, we will get "paid"!

Malky this and DJ that, simple sick of it!



Palace Norwich and Fulham for starters......

I agree we didn't have a premiership Striker and the majority of the defence as not good enough, but nor were any of aboves, especially Palace, Hull weren't that great either, but he strengthened well in Jan....

Palace and hull got pace in midfield and a team connected with the strikers. We never did, and when we moved people upfield that same lack of pace got us killed.


Exactly

Re: Dave Jones Says Solskjaer was not the right manager for

Tue May 06, 2014 7:05 pm

Bosse wrote:People really can't see our squad, is that the issue?
Not even Jurgen Klopp or Brendan Rodgers together would've kept us up. We have Premierships worst squad, If you disagree please tell me which one is worse!
We have starter to play way better, we will get "paid"!

Malky this and DJ that, simple sick of it!


We had a poor squad for sure...no one can dispute that but how can you say we have started to play better....in what way?? We have been all over the place..OGS has looked and sounded desperate and his squad and formations have reflected that. In any other neutral article/blog, on any other footballing forum, I have not found one person who has anything good to say about Ole's management..not one.