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Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Sun May 04, 2014 11:58 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So you are saying Malky lost the Southampton game on purpose as he knew he lost his job?

I was indifferent to whether or not we sacked him or not and with hindsight I think he did a much better job than Ole. Like you said, Malky sprung a few surprises this season and Ole only had the Soton away win.


Of course not.

Malky was drained and his head was all over the place at that point, be honest u saw it for yourself.

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Sun May 04, 2014 11:59 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Leytonstoneblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Why not put up all seasons results?

Cardiff 1 - 2 Newcastle
Cardiff 0 - 3 Southampton
Cardiff 0 - 1 Spurs
West Ham 2 - 0 Cardiff
Palace 2 - 0 Cardiff
Villa 2 - 0 Cardiff
To name a few......they were all part of our relegation


Craig u mean City beating a top 4 side Man City and drawing with Everton and Man United and not getting hammered every week, the truth is the last few months have been abysmal on the pitch and it hurts, but dont hide from it :thumbup:


Surely our shock result was beating Southampton away, when leading up to the game and after, we were absolute crap and shouldn't stood a chance?


I loved that day down there and it was a great result, but Southampton had nothing to play for.

The truth is Tan and Ole took us down, but some dont like the truth.


With all due respect, your summer transfer business was appalling and I firmly believe you would have gone down even if you hadn't sacked your manager.

His record over the second half of seasons is fairly appalling and imho your results would have tailed off.

Parking the bus and hoping to fluke a goal or 2 from set pieces may have caught out a few teams earlier in the season (Man City & us included), but that wouldn't have been enough over a full season.



Malky made a couple of bad signings I agree, but the team played and fought for him, he deserved the full season. :thumbup:

5 wins in his last 30 games and you claim they played for him??

This thread is utterly ridiculous



Craig, u dont like any of my threads but u read them all and comment on them all.
Well the facts spk for themselves Malky's achievements in just over 2 year :thumbup: :thumbup: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 12:05 am

Forever Blue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
NJ73 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Leytonstoneblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Why not put up all seasons results?

Cardiff 1 - 2 Newcastle
Cardiff 0 - 3 Southampton
Cardiff 0 - 1 Spurs
West Ham 2 - 0 Cardiff
Palace 2 - 0 Cardiff
Villa 2 - 0 Cardiff
To name a few......they were all part of our relegation


Craig u mean City beating a top 4 side Man City and drawing with Everton and Man United and not getting hammered every week, the truth is the last few months have been abysmal on the pitch and it hurts, but dont hide from it :thumbup:


Surely our shock result was beating Southampton away, when leading up to the game and after, we were absolute crap and shouldn't stood a chance?


I loved that day down there and it was a great result, but Southampton had nothing to play for.

The truth is Tan and Ole took us down, but some dont like the truth.


With all due respect, your summer transfer business was appalling and I firmly believe you would have gone down even if you hadn't sacked your manager.

His record over the second half of seasons is fairly appalling and imho your results would have tailed off.

Parking the bus and hoping to fluke a goal or 2 from set pieces may have caught out a few teams earlier in the season (Man City & us included), but that wouldn't have been enough over a full season.



Malky made a couple of bad signings I agree, but the team played and fought for him, he deserved the full season. :thumbup:

5 wins in his last 30 games and you claim they played for him??

This thread is utterly ridiculous



Craig, u dont like any of my threads but u read them all and comment on them all.
Well the facts spk for themselves Malky's achievements in just over 2 year :thumbup: :thumbup: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Its not about liking threads, its the utter bias in them. Ole hasnt done well and needs to take a long hard look at himself but Malky has to take part of the blame as he mis spent woefully and he got found out. Its your refusal to even admit Malky may have got anything even remotely wrong that is so ridiculous. You contradict yourself from thread to thread and accuse people of sniping when they make holes in your posts.

In the space of a few weeks its as if you've turned into a bitter old man with a serious axe to grind.

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 3:13 am

Laughable.
Malky can do nothing wrong.
But we don't like the truth.
Absolutely laughable.
Take off the naive specs and see the bigger picture.

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 3:28 am

A couple of bad signings? None of Malky's signings have benefited us this season. Only signing that has somewhat shown promise is Dhaeli and considering we've spent like 60m that is embarrassing.

If Malky was sacked on results/performances instead of falling out with Tan I bet Annis would be more critical of Malky. To say the blame is only on Tan and Ole's shoulders is laughable.

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 7:15 am

The fact that we competed well against some of the best teams, yet fell apart when playing against teams we should have been beating shows that we couldn't handle the pressure of expectation. I also think that we lacked leadership on the pitch. We needed an older and more vocal player in the back four as a captain to orchestrate the defence, like Hudson did in the Championship (unfortunately he wasn't good enough for this role at Premier level)

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 7:58 am

Jinks wrote:All were better squads than the absolute crap malky/moody put together that's why.


Agreed :thumbup:

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 8:07 am

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Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 8:08 am

Cant believe you have all taken the bait, not me.

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 8:12 am

Kenfig Blue wrote:Cant believe you have all taken the bait, not me.

:thumbup:


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Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 8:17 am

Get over yourself NJ, our result against you wasn't a fluke. You were terrible and it was totally deserved. :lol:

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 8:25 am

Whatever side of the debate you're on I don't think you can argue we would of made a better fist of staying up under malky. He should of been given the season.

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 8:31 am

super kev legend wrote:Whatever side of the debate you're on I don't think you can argue we would of made a better fist of staying up under malky. He should of been given the season.


Kev, Thats what I dont understand why the other posters dont see that, Malky deserved the season.

Also it has been proved wrong to have changed the management, thats not Ole's fault its Tans fault. :thumbup:

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 9:03 am

Malky to blame as much as Ole.

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 9:22 am

Forever Blue wrote:
super kev legend wrote:Whatever side of the debate you're on I don't think you can argue we would of made a better fist of staying up under malky. He should of been given the season.


Kev, Thats what I dont understand why the other posters dont see that, Malky deserved the season.

Also it has been proved wrong to have changed the management, thats not Ole's fault its Tans fault. :thumbup:


They are just in denial Annis.

They asked for Malky to be sack, got their way and now are not willing to admit it was the wrong move. The fact that all the pundits are asking why Malky was sack and our mate DJ :D now coming out and saying Ole was the wrong manager just proves to me some on here need a rocket up their arses.

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 9:43 am

Malky deserved the season that's for sure, I do think he would have kept us up, ugly maybe. And yes some of his transfers were wasteful and baffling, but on the other hand he had to go under the terrible and unfortunate circumstances behind the scenes. Ole was a terrible appointment and smacked of not having football advisors within the club to appoint someone with know
how at that level, if this thread is about blame, I blame Tan and the two managers, they all messed it up. With malky, The cornelius and Brayford money wasting was extravagant and foolish, someone in the ivory towers rubber stamped that. Not playing noone for ages, All the other tan nonsense is well publicised which couldn't have helped the dressing room, and ole quiite simply was almost bonkers with his style and vision of the game. To say we were the better team and had loads of chances on Saturday? Taking off Campbell,, sticking with a confidence drained Kim, Jones and John. Not starting with a fighter like Bellamy. They are all responsible for an absolute mess and missed opportunity for the whole world and it's media to see. The fans away were unbelievable, at home we have been shocking. The spirit of Ninian Park has to be awoken at our home games.And tan has to restore our identity and liaise with his customers :bluescarf:

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 9:46 am

Before I start I should say that I think everyone is accountable for our failing this season. Malky, Moody, Tan, Solskjaer, players, coaching staff. However, the thing that has riled me is that under Malky the ratio of hard working performances to shoddy performances was about 3:1. Under Solskjaer that ratio has switched to being one hard working performance for every three shoddy ones.

I watched the critical analysis of our defeat to Newcastle and even though I will back Solskjaer until he is no longer our manager, the glaring problems in our side that have not been remedied really have got me worried. Do I think Solskjaer should have one full pre-season and have a crack at the Championship? Yes. Do I think he is the answer? I'm not convinced. Will I support him despite my reservations? Absolutely.

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 9:59 am

I don't know if there's any one reason Annis. This season has been so up and down, the consistency just wasn't there from the fans, the managers, the owner and the players. We just couldn't rise to the challenge and weren't good enough at the end of the day. Still, lessons learnt, now we must apply them to the Championship and for if/when we come back into the Prem!

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 10:09 am

Forever Blue wrote:All the clubs near the bottom in the last 4 months have all continued to pull of shock wins and draws at the big clubs grounds and at home to the big clubs.

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Today Norwich get a shock draw at Chelsea.

Why could we never get any?

Even most of the bottom clubs hammered us, the more I think about the last 4 months we were an absolute disgrace on the pitch.
I honestly cant see how anyone can defend being bottom of the league and hammered by teams who had terrible records themselves.

Results dont lie we are rock bottom of the Premier League

11/01/2014 15:00 Cardiff City 0 West Ham United 2

18/01/2014 15:00 Manchester City 4 Cardiff City 2

28/01/2014 19:45 Manchester United 2 Cardiff City 0

01/02/2014 15:00 Cardiff City 2 Norwich City 1

08/02/2014 17.30 Swansea City 3 Cardiff City 0

11/02/2014 19:45 Cardiff City 0 Aston Villa 0

22/02/2014 15:00 Cardiff City 0 Hull City 4

02/03/2014 16:30 Tottenham 1 Cardiff City 0

08/03/2014 15:00 Cardiff City 3 Fulham 1

15/03/2014 15:00 Everton 2 Cardiff City 1

22/03/2014 15:00 Cardiff City 3 Liverpool 6

29/03/2014 15:00 West Bromwich Albion 3 Cardiff City 3

05/04/2014 15:00 Cardiff City 0 Crystal Palace 3

12/04/2014 15:00 Southampton 0 Cardiff City 1

19/04/2014 15:00 Cardiff City 1 Stoke City 1

27/04/2014 12pm Sunderland 4 Cardiff City 0

03/05/2014 15:00 Newcastle United 3 Cardiff City 0


Main reason, because we didn't sign a Premiership Striker for the Premiership, Moody/Malky wasted that £7/£8 Million or whatever it was on Cornelius, it's difficult in the Premiership without a Premiership Striker......

The only way would have been to adapt a Pullis style team, not concede and try and pinch the odd goal...

Re: " Why Why Why Could We not ? "

Mon May 05, 2014 10:43 am

Exactly

Like we did for 6 years

Not pretty but effective

TP would be an ideal choice for you