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Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:22 pm

DannyboyBluebirds wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.

Malky was given a budget every season for 3 seasons and delivered the first 2 seasons and I believe given the chance would of delivered again, what more can you ask from a manager if he delivers the success on the pitch he was asked to get.

Before Malky left Tan sent his PR men out to ridicule Malky.

I cant wait for this court case, when will Malky walk away with his head held up high and show who really is the liar :thumbup: :bluescarf:



Everything right?
He spent £50million on utter sh&t had no clue tactically and the players called him milky as all he cared about was leeching from the club


Don't cry.

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:22 pm

A block wrote:
Mario wrote:Accept the fact he hasn't been able to organise the team in the 5 months he has been here.


I haven't enjoyed what Ole has had to show. however, he inherited an awful team. Absolutely awful. We have so many weaknesses and there is a lot of hard work to be done for next season. I think we will see a lot of players coming and going - as long as someone will take our weaker players on ridiculous wages.


Awful behave. The bookies weren't even taking bets on palace going down when pulis took over.

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:30 pm

Mario wrote:Accept the fact he hasn't been able to organise the team in the 5 months he has been here.

Where as Pulis with a worse squad, with total shit players like Chamakh, gabbidon, o'keefe and has made solksjaer like like a under 6s coach.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tea ... tal-palace

Have a look at that squad. It is championship at best.

2 very good center backs in Dann and Mariappas picked up for a fraction of what Caulker cost.

Jedinak has done a far better job than Medel for a tenth of the cost.

Bolasie, Puncheon, Ince three very good attacking players.

Chamakh and Jerome are better than Cornelius, Jones and Campbell.

As you were

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:31 pm

I hope everyone who supports Malky more than they support the current Cardiff City manager, whoever it may be at whatever time, goes and supports the next club Malky manages. FFS, this is Cardiff City FC, not Malky MacKay FC. He's gone, end of, get over it.

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:31 pm

anyone seen or heard annis lately hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole:

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:31 pm

Malky was pro rebrand untill tan got pissed about transfers.
So people being reds if they wanted mackay gone is bullshit
they just wanted a new manager :thumbup:

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:32 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Mario wrote:Accept the fact he hasn't been able to organise the team in the 5 months he has been here.

Where as Pulis with a worse squad, with total shit players like Chamakh, gabbidon, o'keefe and has made solksjaer like like a under 6s coach.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tea ... tal-palace

Have a look at that squad. It is championship at best.

2 very good center backs in Dann and Mariappas picked up for a fraction of what Caulker cost.

Jedinak has done a far better job than Medel for a tenth of the cost.

Bolasie, Puncheon, Ince three very good attacking players.

Chamakh and Jerome are better than Cornelius, Jones and Campbell.

As you were


They also had a good system, are a big team and have lots of pace. None of what we had.

Oh and could score goals
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Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:32 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:anyone seen or heard annis lately hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole:


Hes hiding from Natman

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:32 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.

Malky was given a budget every season for 3 seasons and delivered the first 2 seasons and I believe given the chance would of delivered again, what more can you ask from a manager if he delivers the success on the pitch he was asked to get.



Agree with all of that!

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:34 pm

mjw6150 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.

Malky was given a budget every season for 3 seasons and delivered the first 2 seasons and I believe given the chance would of delivered again, what more can you ask from a manager if he delivers the success on the pitch he was asked to get.



Agree with all of that!


Do you agree Gary Medel was worth 11m?

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:38 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Mario wrote:Accept the fact he hasn't been able to organise the team in the 5 months he has been here.

Where as Pulis with a worse squad, with total shit players like Chamakh, gabbidon, o'keefe and has made solksjaer like like a under 6s coach.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tea ... tal-palace

Have a look at that squad. It is championship at best.

2 very good center backs in Dann and Mariappas picked up for a fraction of what Caulker cost.

Jedinak has done a far better job than Medel for a tenth of the cost.

Bolasie, Puncheon, Ince three very good attacking players.

Chamakh and Jerome are better than Cornelius, Jones and Campbell.

As you were

:laughing6: :notworthy:

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:45 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.


He spent over £100 million in two seasons on transfers and wages. A lot of managers would be rubbing their hands with glee over such a budget given to them.

It wasn't just one mistake with Cornelius, he overpaid on pretty much every player we bought. And if we go down I doubt we will make money on any of those players.

He was a good manager no doubt and finally got us over the hurdle and into the premier leauge, I will always respect him for that. However he didn't prepare properly and it cost us this season. Even if he was still in charge I doubt we would have stayed up we didn't have the squad or the style of football to do it but that's an argument done to death.

What's laughable is fans believing he stood up to Tan and was martyr to our cause. The man told fans to accept the rebrand as it was for the greater good, he didn't care about our traditions then and he doesn't know except to make himself look good.



He could spend £500 mill if thats what an owner gives you. He was asked to get the results and he did, Amazing first season,Champions second season and above relegation the 3rd season, What more could he do. :thumbup: :bluescarf:

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:46 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.

Malky was given a budget every season for 3 seasons and delivered the first 2 seasons and I believe given the chance would of delivered again, what more can you ask from a manager if he delivers the success on the pitch he was asked to get.



Agree with all of that!


Do you agree Gary Medel was worth 11m?


I don't think he was but I would definitely say that he is worth £7-8m.

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:47 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:anyone seen or heard annis lately hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole:


Hes hiding from Natman

:lol:

I ignore him now as he is stalking me and obsessed with me, I hope he never books on Carls coaches :laughing6:

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:48 pm

mjw6150 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.

Malky was given a budget every season for 3 seasons and delivered the first 2 seasons and I believe given the chance would of delivered again, what more can you ask from a manager if he delivers the success on the pitch he was asked to get.



Agree with all of that!


Do you agree Gary Medel was worth 11m?


I don't think he was but I would definitely say that he is worth £7-8m.


So paying 50% over the odds for someone isnt a mistake then? :laughing6:

Ill have another bookmark with you if you want. We wont get 7 or 8m for Gary. :thumbup:

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:49 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:anyone seen or heard annis lately hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole:


Hes hiding from Natman

:lol:

I ignore him now as he is stalking me and obsessed with me, I hope he never books on Carls coaches :laughing6:


I think your wife has competition :laughing6:

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:50 pm

ProBlueAlways wrote:He stood up to Tan? The vitriol and vile abuse the man is receiving on here daily is beyond. The abuse goes way beyond the usual abue a supposedly failed manager would get (Malky is the best manager we have ever had). I honestly believe that the reds hate him because he threatened to tear down their red vision and Tans empire here. Malky never mixed his words and some fans saw that as a threat.

It would certainly go someway into explaining how people could be so horrible to a man they have never met.


So true. There is nothing worse than an ungrateful child.

StT.

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:51 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.


He spent over £100 million in two seasons on transfers and wages. A lot of managers would be rubbing their hands with glee over such a budget given to them.

It wasn't just one mistake with Cornelius, he overpaid on pretty much every player we bought. And if we go down I doubt we will make money on any of those players.

He was a good manager no doubt and finally got us over the hurdle and into the premier leauge, I will always respect him for that. However he didn't prepare properly and it cost us this season. Even if he was still in charge I doubt we would have stayed up we didn't have the squad or the style of football to do it but that's an argument done to death.

What's laughable is fans believing he stood up to Tan and was martyr to our cause. The man told fans to accept the rebrand as it was for the greater good, he didn't care about our traditions then and he doesn't know except to make himself look good.



He could spend £500 mill if thats what an owner gives you. He was asked to get the results and he did, Amazing first season,Champions second season and above relegation the 3rd season, What more could he do. :thumbup: :bluescarf:


So saying he made £160 million is redundant if he spent it all :lol: This is also spending over the odds and making it impossible for the club to make any money on the players bought. You constantly moan about the debt but are not bothered when we waste serious money? :?

As I said he did very well but he had one of the largest budgets ever afford to a championship manager so I would be amazed if he didn't get us promoted.

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:52 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.


He spent over £100 million in two seasons on transfers and wages. A lot of managers would be rubbing their hands with glee over such a budget given to them.

It wasn't just one mistake with Cornelius, he overpaid on pretty much every player we bought. And if we go down I doubt we will make money on any of those players.

He was a good manager no doubt and finally got us over the hurdle and into the premier leauge, I will always respect him for that. However he didn't prepare properly and it cost us this season. Even if he was still in charge I doubt we would have stayed up we didn't have the squad or the style of football to do it but that's an argument done to death.

What's laughable is fans believing he stood up to Tan and was martyr to our cause. The man told fans to accept the rebrand as it was for the greater good, he didn't care about our traditions then and he doesn't know except to make himself look good.



He could spend £500 mill if thats what an owner gives you. He was asked to get the results and he did, Amazing first season,Champions second season and above relegation the 3rd season, What more could he do. :thumbup: :bluescarf:


So saying he made £160 million is redundant if he spent it all :lol: This is also spending over the odds and making it impossible for the club to make any money on the players bought. You constantly moan about the debt but are not bothered when we waste serious money? :?

As I said he did very well but he had one of the largest budgets ever afford to a championship manager so I would be amazed if he didn't get us promoted.


Check Mate :thumbup:
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Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:53 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.

Malky was given a budget every season for 3 seasons and delivered the first 2 seasons and I believe given the chance would of delivered again, what more can you ask from a manager if he delivers the success on the pitch he was asked to get.



Agree with all of that!


Do you agree Gary Medel was worth 11m?


I don't think he was but I would definitely say that he is worth £7-8m.


So paying 50% over the odds for someone isnt a mistake then? :laughing6:

Ill have another bookmark with you if you want. We wont get 7 or 8m for Gary. :thumbup:



£3-4m is not 50% of £11m. I would say it's a mistake but a RELATIVELY small one.

I actually agree with you there, we won't. Because of the lack of money in Spanish football (where his reputation largely stands) and because I don't think the likes of Liverpool, City & Utd will be after him I would suspect we would sell for around £4-6m to get him off the wage bill. Which would be around a 50% loss on £11m. An unfortunate reality of relegation.

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:53 pm

CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:anyone seen or heard annis lately hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole:


Hes hiding from Natman

:lol:

I ignore him now as he is stalking me and obsessed with me, I hope he never books on Carls coaches :laughing6:


I think your wife has competition :laughing6:

:o :o
:lol:

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:55 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:anyone seen or heard annis lately hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole:


Hes hiding from Natman

:lol:

I ignore him now as he is stalking me and obsessed with me, I hope he never books on Carls coaches :laughing6:


He's ignoring me because he can't answer the question i set him as i would show his real motives and everyone would see him for what he is really trying to do.

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:55 pm

Malky endorsed the rebrand.

For those who went to the meeting for the rebrand ideas. He backed it and said it was best for the club, when asked how he would react if it happened to his beloved Celtic he didn't have an answer. This is the man who still refers to the club as 'we. Media Mulipulatlor

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:55 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:anyone seen or heard annis lately hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole: :ole:


Hes hiding from Natman

:lol:

I ignore him now as he is stalking me and obsessed with me, I hope he never books on Carls coaches :laughing6:


He's ignoring me because he can't answer the question i set him as i would show his real motives and everyone would see him for what he is really trying to do.

Oh, and I'm so obsessed that he is the one mentioning me in countless other threads!

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:56 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.


He spent over £100 million in two seasons on transfers and wages. A lot of managers would be rubbing their hands with glee over such a budget given to them.

It wasn't just one mistake with Cornelius, he overpaid on pretty much every player we bought. And if we go down I doubt we will make money on any of those players.

He was a good manager no doubt and finally got us over the hurdle and into the premier leauge, I will always respect him for that. However he didn't prepare properly and it cost us this season. Even if he was still in charge I doubt we would have stayed up we didn't have the squad or the style of football to do it but that's an argument done to death.

What's laughable is fans believing he stood up to Tan and was martyr to our cause. The man told fans to accept the rebrand as it was for the greater good, he didn't care about our traditions then and he doesn't know except to make himself look good.



He could spend £500 mill if thats what an owner gives you. He was asked to get the results and he did, Amazing first season,Champions second season and above relegation the 3rd season, What more could he do. :thumbup: :bluescarf:


So saying he made £160 million is redundant if he spent it all :lol: This is also spending over the odds and making it impossible for the club to make any money on the players bought. You constantly moan about the debt but are not bothered when we waste serious money? :?

As I said he did very well but he had one of the largest budgets ever afford to a championship manager so I would be amazed if he didn't get us promoted.



The owner is totally responsible.

I honestly could not care about what name signings we get, yes I post the info out, but I am not asking the club to buy them etc.


When I ran clubs/hotels etc I was totally responsible for the accounts at the end of every year, that is reality. :thumbup:

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:56 pm

mjw6150 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:
mjw6150 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I honestly cant understand the abuse from any City fan against Malky, the man did everything right other than make one mistake in signing Cornelius, which none of us know the real full details on this yet.
Havent many managers over years including Ferguson made mistakes.

Malky still earned us up to £160 mill in promotion money, sacking Malky has proved a massive mistake, we are now virtually a Championship club.

Malky was given a budget every season for 3 seasons and delivered the first 2 seasons and I believe given the chance would of delivered again, what more can you ask from a manager if he delivers the success on the pitch he was asked to get.



Agree with all of that!


Do you agree Gary Medel was worth 11m?


I don't think he was but I would definitely say that he is worth £7-8m.


So paying 50% over the odds for someone isnt a mistake then? :laughing6:

Ill have another bookmark with you if you want. We wont get 7 or 8m for Gary. :thumbup:



£3-4m is not 50% of £11m. I would say it's a mistake but a RELATIVELY small one.

I actually agree with you there, we won't. Because of the lack of money in Spanish football (where his reputation largely stands) and because I don't think the likes of Liverpool, City & Utd will be after him I would suspect we would sell for around £4-6m to get him off the wage bill. Which would be around a 50% loss on £11m. An unfortunate reality of relegation.


7m + 50 % = 10.5m

If you think he is only worth 7m then if we paid 11m for him we actually paid 57% more for him.

Please, if you are going to argue the math with me, go and get a calculator.

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:57 pm

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:He stood up to Tan? The vitriol and vile abuse the man is receiving on here daily is beyond. The abuse goes way beyond the usual abue a supposedly failed manager would get (Malky is the best manager we have ever had). I honestly believe that the reds hate him because he threatened to tear down their red vision and Tans empire here. Malky never mixed his words and some fans saw that as a threat.

It would certainly go someway into explaining how people could be so horrible to a man they have never met.


So true. There is nothing worse than an ungrateful child.

StT.


Says everyone who is so vitriolic against Tan!!! No truer definition of a spoilt child than that!

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:58 pm

May have earned us £160m but he spent £35/4 of that in the summer and that's not including wages. Not to mention the £15m he spent last season added to the wages of £30m. Thus it costing us £45m to get promoted

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:59 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:May have earned us £160m but he spent £35/4 of that in the summer and that's not including wages. Not to mention the £15m he spent last season added to the wages of £30m. Thus it costing us £45m to get promoted


Plus, the parachutre payments are to help with still paying donkeys premiership wages in the championship

Re: Do reds hate Malky because...

Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:59 pm

Natman Blue wrote:
Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:
ProBlueAlways wrote:He stood up to Tan? The vitriol and vile abuse the man is receiving on here daily is beyond. The abuse goes way beyond the usual abue a supposedly failed manager would get (Malky is the best manager we have ever had). I honestly believe that the reds hate him because he threatened to tear down their red vision and Tans empire here. Malky never mixed his words and some fans saw that as a threat.

It would certainly go someway into explaining how people could be so horrible to a man they have never met.


So true. There is nothing worse than an ungrateful child.

StT.


Says everyone who is so vitriolic against Tan!!! No truer definition of a spoilt child than that!

Agreed, moan cos Tan sacked Moody and didnt give Malky even MORE money in January, that is the definition of a spoilt child