' 67% of Cardiff Fans Blame Tan for this seasons failings '

its a bit of a non story really


obviously in this poll people were given the option to choose Tan....doesn't really mean much except hes an obvious hate figure at the club.

Why wouldn't he be in a poll about blame for us going down.

Would you like a poll with the only option being Mackay?.

what I mean is that there is no one person to blame. Malky and Ole had roughly half a season each and a transfer window each too.

fact is when a poll like this is put up, people are going to automatically choose Tan, without thinking it through.

For me personally, the main factor in us going down is Malkys transfer dealings in the Summer. people talk about Tans meddling which is fair enough, but he trusted the manager with a massive budget, and he blew it.

Ole has been too naïve with his tactics, had a poor transfer window himself though obviously January is a lot more difficult.

Half a season each? The fact is instability has caused this mess and while I obviously see the responsibility of the managers, neither had a fair crack of the whip really.

Malky steered the club to victory as champions last year so he isn't exactly incompetent. If his buying was in doubt he should have had strong advice from experienced old heads in the back room.

OGS has taken a poison chalice and at least tried. Problem us we couldn't attract quality signings in Jan because the club's rep was already tarnished. He has tried to get the element of surprise in his squad selection and I don't agree with a lot of his decisions but he has remained as positive as possible.


I'm not a clone of Annis or a "yes man". HOWEVER: The public have voted so it isn't any one person's opinion here. Maybe the public have a more relevant say because they are the potential fans of tomorrow and can't be accused of historical bias or being partisan.

2/3rds think Tan is to blame. That's a resounding vote of no-confidence.

Go back to my first point: INSTABILITY
Tan, it could be argued, brought financial stability by injecting cash. BUT these benevolent gifts are loans! He is also having substantial cash from PL/Sky etc.
What he has done, which is unforgivable, is to divide the fans and stamp on our identity. The colour change and badge re-brand are the tip if the iceberg. They merely belie the lack of regard he has for our culture, traditions and beliefs. More is going on behind the scenes and when he eventually leaves, the truth may surface.

He is nothing short of a capitalist, conscienceless despot in my opinion.

His money is the only thing going for him.

Let's face it, he is the equivalent of the rich kid in the school playground who only has people talking to him because he will share some sweets. To continue the analogy, if we were in a games lesson in school and you were picking your side, Tan would be last picked. Unfortunately, he is one of the team selectors as far as I'm concerned.

BLUE is the colour mr tan!

Its all very well having 67% blaming tan but the same 67% dont do anything about it.
You have started protests and hopefully for the real fans they will gain momentum and finaly tan does one.
But I think its going to take a lot to get rid of him.
He realy has no care on how anyone views him and ses thick skinned.
It could be a case of u having to put up with him for a long time as he has so much power over your club and got his feet right under the table.

Its all very well having 67% blaming tan but the same 67% dont do anything about it.
You have started protests and hopefully for the real fans they will gain momentum and finaly tan does one.
But I think its going to take a lot to get rid of him.
He realy has no care on how anyone views him and ses thick skinned.
It could be a case of u having to put up with him for a long time as he has so much power over your club and got his feet right under the table.

People call you all sort of things everyday to, you don't seem to mind either. Why?

Im a jack on a cardiff board.
Its no secret I dislike anything cardiff and take the piss and give u shit.
Im no hypocrite and so I take it as I should.
Its true I do t like cardiff and would like to see u in the bottom of the football system.
However playing in blue with a bluebird as is your traditional colours.
Know a few lads on here who I respect and are decent enough.
They like me love there club from a young age and are hurt about the shit going on.
So for all the shit I do give I do feel for the real fans because if it was us then I would be the same.

It is definitely mainly VT's fault. I don't hate VT and want him to stay at the club but he has certainly messed up the season with the off field antics. The bonuses row, Moodygate, Malkygate, bizzare press statements...it's been way too much.

Time for a clean slate and a fresh start next season, whatever league we are in.

I would say in this order 1) Tan 2) Tan 3) Tan & Ole

Spot on Simon.

Agree, not sure why many consider 17 points from as many games as a MM failure. Sure, some of the MM signings were shocking, but he was picking up points.

12 points since the new manager has been introduced confirms Tans decision making has been shocking / the primary reason we will be relegated on saturday.

I would say in this order 1) Tan 2) Tan 3) Tan & Ole

Spot on Simon.

Agree, not sure why many consider 17 points from as many games as a MM failure. Sure, some of the MM signings were shocking, but he was picking up points.

12 points since the new manager has been introduced confirms Tans decision making has been shocking / the primary reason we will be relegated on saturday.

No, the primary reason is we have championship players, and that is shocking when you look at the money we spent.
If we win on Saturday Ole have the same shit stats as Malky.

I would say in this order 1) Tan 2) Tan 3) Tan & Ole

Spot on Simon.

Agree, not sure why many consider 17 points from as many games as a MM failure. Sure, some of the MM signings were shocking, but he was picking up points.

12 points since the new manager has been introduced confirms Tans decision making has been shocking / the primary reason we will be relegated on saturday.

No, the primary reason is we have championship players, and that is shocking when you look at the money we spent.
If we win on Saturday Ole have the same shit stats as Malky.

I wasn't arguing with the transfers (many of them are utter crap), its what you do with the players that counts. If ole gets max points from the last 2 games that will be 18 points and arguably, that would support Tan's actions in that respect.

At the moment the team picked up 5 points more under MM. Personally cant see that stat changing by the end of the season.

I am shocked it's only 67% ? Thought it would be far far higher

Me too. It's 100% Tan's fault we are getting relegated. Everyone should be able to see that but unfortunately, only 67% of those voting can see it!

Tonteg speaking nonsense again, what a surprise.

I obviously must have imagined us starting the season well before Tan stuck his nose in, interfered, disrupted things and then employ a manger to take us down into the relegation zone then.

I will stick with facts, you stick to your false assumptions.

Tan doesn't buy players, choose tactics and take training. His disruptions have affected us but have been overblown to suit the agenda.

What you have said is not a fact, it is an opinion.

I am shocked it's only 67% ? Thought it would be far far higher

Me too. It's 100% Tan's fault we are getting relegated. Everyone should be able to see that but unfortunately, only 67% of those voting can see it!

Tonteg speaking nonsense again, what a surprise.

I obviously must have imagined us starting the season well before Tan stuck his nose in, interfered, disrupted things and then employ a manger to take us down into the relegation zone then.

I will stick with facts, you stick to your false assumptions.

Tan doesn't buy players, choose tactics and take training. His disruptions have affected us but have been overblown to suit the agenda.

What you have said is not a fact, it is an opinion.

I am shocked it's only 67% ? Thought it would be far far higher

Me too. It's 100% Tan's fault we are getting relegated. Everyone should be able to see that but unfortunately, only 67% of those voting can see it!

Tonteg speaking nonsense again, what a surprise.

I obviously must have imagined us starting the season well before Tan stuck his nose in, interfered, disrupted things and then employ a manger to take us down into the relegation zone then.

I will stick with facts, you stick to your false assumptions.

Tan doesn't buy players, choose tactics and take training. His disruptions have affected us but have been overblown to suit the agenda.

What you have said is not a fact, it is an opinion.

The manager buys players, chooses tactics and takes training and the difference between Malky, the manager that Tan sacked and Ole, the manager Tan appointed is there for everyone to see. We were doing fine until Tan disrupted things. Whether Tan's destruction affected our performances and results is your opinion, but surely nobody can argue that Tan's off the pitch antics hasn't helped us one bit? Tan's breakdown in relationship with Malky followed by the appointment of Ole has seen us be humiliated, losing to Swansea and Palace 3-0 and losing to Hull and Sunderland 4-0. Those are facts I'm afraid and it's 100% Tan's fault.

I am shocked it's only 67% ? Thought it would be far far higher

Me too. It's 100% Tan's fault we are getting relegated. Everyone should be able to see that but unfortunately, only 67% of those voting can see it!

Tonteg speaking nonsense again, what a surprise.

I obviously must have imagined us starting the season well before Tan stuck his nose in, interfered, disrupted things and then employ a manger to take us down into the relegation zone then.

I will stick with facts, you stick to your false assumptions.

Tan doesn't buy players, choose tactics and take training. His disruptions have affected us but have been overblown to suit the agenda.

What you have said is not a fact, it is an opinion.

The manager buys players, chooses tactics and takes training and the difference between Malky, the manager that Tan sacked and Ole, the manager Tan appointed is there for everyone to see. We were doing fine until Tan disrupted things. Whether Tan's destruction affected our performances and results is your opinion, but surely nobody can argue that Tan's off the pitch antics hasn't helped us one bit? Tan's breakdown in relationship with Malky followed by the appointment of Ole has seen us be humiliated, losing to Swansea and Palace 3-0 and losing to Hull and Sunderland 4-0. Those are facts I'm afraid and it's 100% Tan's fault.

Im not trying to get in the middle of your debate, but was just thinking its fascinating how different the world looks through different eyes

I am shocked it's only 67% ? Thought it would be far far higher

Me too. It's 100% Tan's fault we are getting relegated. Everyone should be able to see that but unfortunately, only 67% of those voting can see it!

Tonteg speaking nonsense again, what a surprise.

I obviously must have imagined us starting the season well before Tan stuck his nose in, interfered, disrupted things and then employ a manger to take us down into the relegation zone then.

I will stick with facts, you stick to your false assumptions.

Tan doesn't buy players, choose tactics and take training. His disruptions have affected us but have been overblown to suit the agenda.

What you have said is not a fact, it is an opinion.

The manager buys players, chooses tactics and takes training and the difference between Malky, the manager that Tan sacked and Ole, the manager Tan appointed is there for everyone to see. We were doing fine until Tan disrupted things. Whether Tan's destruction affected our performances and results is your opinion, but surely nobody can argue that Tan's off the pitch antics hasn't helped us one bit? Tan's breakdown in relationship with Malky followed by the appointment of Ole has seen us be humiliated, losing to Swansea and Palace 3-0 and losing to Hull and Sunderland 4-0. Those are facts I'm afraid and it's 100% Tan's fault.

There isn't much of a difference, we were poor under both. Someone posted the stats between the two managers the other day and the difference between them is very slim. Malky has more points because he had more games which is the main difference.

Performances declined because we were found out. Sit back, lump it forward and score from set pieces. One a manager got his side well drilled at set pieces we created nothing and got battered all game. This happened after we beat Fulham then Newcastle took the piss out of us at home because we were one dimensional.

Of course they haven't helped but it isn't Tan's fault we lost to Newcastle, Aston Villa and Palace. It wasn't his fault that Malky didn't have the courage to nick a win off of Stoke or Norwich. It isn't his fault we have been smashed by Hull, Palace, Sunderland and Swansea. The blame lies with the manager and players and while Tan takes some of the blame he certainly doesn't take all of it. Hate him for the rebrand all you want, but don't let your hatred for him blind you and then say it is all his fault because that is ridiculous. Is it his fault that KTC is just shit and can't defend or kick the ball into the stand when we are winning 2-1? NO. His fault Campbell/Jones/Cornelius/Odemwingie couldn't hit a barn door? NO. His fault Medel is overweight and can't protect the defence properly? NO. His fault that Zaha is just useless and has a stinking attitude? NO. His fault that both of our managers wouldn't know a good striker/fullback if it punched them in the face? NO.

Let me ask you this. How have Hull out-performed us and booked an Fa Cup final place while having issues with their owner?