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Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:46 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:His shares for a start. A debt free championship club with a stadium expansion just done and a guaranteed £30m in parachute money left to come in would be worth £30 - 40m easy just on the basis of the future payments alone.

season ticket money he can keep as well as sponsorship money for the new season.

as for players, you will get £20m for just Caulker, Medel and Marshall. If you really did want to sell the likes of Mutch, Daeli, Whittingham, Kim then you would quite easily reach £30m in player sales.

£30m-£40m for the club. £30m for the players. £20m parachute payments. £10m ticket money and sponsorships

= £90m - £100m

He also has the land for the training ground which i havent accounted for.


there you are were a very rich club on paper so whats all the fuss over?? :laughing5: man u are the same very rich on paper but over 350mil in debt! :thumbup:

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:53 pm

You are not rich on paper you have nothing that is yours that you dont owe elsewhere.

Man United make £340m a year so their debt is just one years revenue. Not to mention they have a hundred million plus in player assets.

Your debt is £100m a year with an income of £38m (with parachutes), thats crippling.

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:05 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:

Well the ones who were national socialists are Nazi's just as Swansea don,t pay their bills, considering the amount they owed they could have easily paid back the St Johns ambulance which is a Charity


No we couldn't, its illegal.

We did however pay them back in terms of using our facilities and conference rooms for nothing and also contracts that have remained working with us for the last 12 years.


So in Swansea its illegal to make a donation to a charity :lol:

You;ve come out with some shit in the past but Roathie take a bow son that's comedy gold

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:06 pm

[quote="Roath_Magic_"]You are not rich on paper you have nothing that is yours that you dont owe elsewhere.

Man United make £340m a year so their debt is just one years revenue. Not to mention they have a hundred million plus in player assets.

Your debt is £100m a year with an income of £38m (with parachutes), thats crippling.[/qu

assets are ours until tan converts into equity as he is lending us the money for expansion, training ground ect ect! he does not
own club so does not own assets? hes a majority share holder! and we dont have debts of 100mil accumilating every year as you state as on that basis we would be over 250 mil in debt length time tan's been here, we have debts of 100 mil + in total depends on who you believe thats it! :roll:
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Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:06 pm

bluebird1972 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:

Well the ones who were national socialists are Nazi's just as Swansea don,t pay their bills, considering the amount they owed they could have easily paid back the St Johns ambulance which is a Charity


No we couldn't, its illegal.

We did however pay them back in terms of using our facilities and conference rooms for nothing and also contracts that have remained working with us for the last 12 years.


So in Swansea its illegal to make a donation to a charity :lol:

You;ve come out with some shit in the past but Roathie take a bow son that's comedy gold


When entering into a CVA and it is settled. It is against the code of practice to make payments outside the CVA and the club could fins itself in a lot of hot water.

If we are going to debate, lets do it sensibly eh? :thumbup:

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:09 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
assets are ours until tan converts into equity as he is lending us the money for expansion, training ground ect ect! he does not
own club so does not own assets? hes a majority share holder! and we dont have debts of 100mil accumilating every year or on as you state or on that basis we would be over 250 mil in debt length time tan's been here, we have debts of 100 mil + depends on who you believe thats it! :roll:


If only that were true Al.p

The company owe the debt to him, makes no difference if he owns 100% or not. The only thing that complete control does is allows him to sell them when he wants.

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:17 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
assets are ours until tan converts into equity as he is lending us the money for expansion, training ground ect ect! he does not
own club so does not own assets? hes a majority share holder! and we dont have debts of 100mil accumilating every year or on as you state or on that basis we would be over 250 mil in debt length time tan's been here, we have debts of 100 mil + depends on who you believe thats it! :roll:


If only that were true Al.p

The company owe the debt to him, makes no difference if he owns 100% or not. The only thing that complete control does is allows him to sell them when he wants.

yes agree he can sell because he does control things without owning us! but tbh despite what people say he wont go and lose money that is for sure, so we are stuck with him for the forseable future unless a miracle happens! :laughing6: and finally its easy for any one to say we sold out but garauntee if shoe was on other foot any club would do same, us fans have very little say in who owns club nowadays, in past maybe but not in todays megga money world!

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:20 pm

Well as ive shown he can walk away now and recoup his money. Whether he will remains to be seen, however any money he puts in from here on isnt covered by assets so would be foolish if you ask me.

As for selling out and others would do the same... You know my stance on that, i honestly dont think many, if any would.

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:21 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
bluebird1972 wrote:

Well the ones who were national socialists are Nazi's just as Swansea don,t pay their bills, considering the amount they owed they could have easily paid back the St Johns ambulance which is a Charity


No we couldn't, its illegal.

We did however pay them back in terms of using our facilities and conference rooms for nothing and also contracts that have remained working with us for the last 12 years.


So in Swansea its illegal to make a donation to a charity :lol:

You;ve come out with some shit in the past but Roathie take a bow son that's comedy gold




When entering into a CVA and it is settled. It is against the code of practice to make payments outside the CVA and the club could fins itself in a lot of hot water.

If we are going to debate, lets do it sensibly eh? :thumbup:


Stop making things up then, there is no law preventing Swansea from making a charity donation to the St Johns Ambulance, also Swansea football club do not own the facilities that you claim they allow the St Johns ambulance free use of.

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:23 pm

It isnt a charity it is a company. The legal status of each organisation varies by country. in both England and Wales the resident St John Ambulance organisations are simultaneously but separately registered as charities and companies, therfore no legal payment can be made.

Swansea city stuck a deal to allow St Johns ambulance free facilities at the ground, whether they own the deeds is irrelevant.

Next...

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:27 pm

[quote="Roath_Magic_"]Well as ive shown he can walk away now and recoup his money. Whether he will remains to be seen, however any money he puts in from here on isnt covered by assets so would be foolish if you ask me.

As for selling out and others would do the same... You know my stance on that, i honestly dont think many, if any would.[/quot

mm hull fans just did! the name change is worse than shirt in my book, but they still voted yes because owner threatened to leave! :thumbup:

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:37 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:It isnt a charity it is a company. The legal status of each organisation varies by country. in both England and Wales the resident St John Ambulance organisations are simultaneously but separately registered as charities and companies, therfore no legal payment can be made.

Swansea city stuck a deal to allow St Johns ambulance free facilities at the ground, whether they own the deeds is irrelevant.

Next...


You are just a f*cking liar, St Johns ambulance registered Charity number is 1077265

As I've proved you are a lying tw*t why don't you make a donation in Swansea's name
I know you won't because you're nothing but a trolling lying prick

Re: We need to go back to league 2

Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:45 pm

Apology accepted.
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