IS IT TRUE ABOUT BELLAMY???

How are you Brian?

Good thanks mate .

Natman trolling again.

In that case it would be like trolling a troll wouldn't it? And look, there you are

What username were you before this one?

Natman whinges when negative things are written & then tells Annis he may should write negative things when he hasn't!

I notice he hasn't answered his question either.

So why aren't people allowed to criticise players Natman?

Alex, it would be nice if Nat was man enough to apologies regarding Whitts,but he is prob searching through my 41,000 posts hoping to find something on Whitts

Don't flatter yourself. Nothing to apologise for! I forgot that in your eyes its also quite alright to insult the current manager as well.

Just tired to the back teeth of your attempts to undermine the club. A view held by people on here as well as myself is that you can't wait for the club to fail just to say "I told you so". Also, Strange how chuckles jumps straight on a post i make and has done for the past number of weeks/month yet nothing is said by you about him hmmm.

You really are a weird one Natman.

Accusing Annis of wanting the club to fail is beyond a joke. I've known him since the early days of hammam. He is as passionate a fan as there is. All he wants is for his club (which is my club and your club too) is for it to have the right identity. That identity is blue with bluebird badge. I want that too. You'd rather see us in red the same colour as Bristol city and Liverpool. The same colour that has nothing to do with our long history. I struggle to get excited for home games this season. Seeing us play Liverpool and Man United at home with us in red hurt me like hell. The best game I've been to was arsenal away. Playing in blue and surrounded by real cardiff fans (likevAnnis) supporting our team in blue.

You clearly have no respect for the traditions and values of our club.

Read my later post again Gareth, its not only my view, its one held by quite a number of other people. I shall however leave it to them to come forward

Natman trolling again.

In that case it would be like trolling a troll wouldn't it? And look, there you are

What username were you before this one?

Natman whinges when negative things are written & then tells Annis he may should write negative things when he hasn't!

I notice he hasn't answered his question either.

So why aren't people allowed to criticise players Natman?

Alex, it would be nice if Nat was man enough to apologies regarding Whitts,but he is prob searching through my 41,000 posts hoping to find something on Whitts

Don't flatter yourself. Nothing to apologise for! I forgot that in your eyes its also quite alright to insult the current manager as well.

Just tired to the back teeth of your attempts to undermine the club. A view held by people on here as well as myself is that you can't wait for the club to fail just to say "I told you so". Also, Strange how chuckles jumps straight on a post i make and has done for the past number of weeks/month yet nothing is said by you about him hmmm.

You really are a weird one Natman.

Accusing Annis of wanting the club to fail is beyond a joke. I've known him since the early days of hammam. He is as passionate a fan as there is. All he wants is for his club (which is my club and your club too) is for it to have the right identity. That identity is blue with bluebird badge. I want that too. You'd rather see us in red the same colour as Bristol city and Liverpool. The same colour that has nothing to do with our long history. I struggle to get excited for home games this season. Seeing us play Liverpool and Man United at home with us in red hurt me like hell. The best game I've been to was arsenal away. Playing in blue and surrounded by real cardiff fans (likevAnnis) supporting our team in blue.

You clearly have no respect for the traditions and values of our club.

Read my later post again Gareth, its not only my view, its one held by quite a number of other people. I shall however leave it to them to come forward

I'm responding to you.

How can you have any respect for Tan after the way he has screwed the club. Not invested much just loaned us a shed load of cash at a high interest rate despite saying rebrand would see debt to equity.

I'd rather us in conference in blue than where we are in red.

To be fair to annis u have all shot him down but he was rite all along , Malky should never have got the sack and ole is useless , he was only saying it how it is , why can't some of u reds that have got your heads up tans arse admit you was wrong and annis called it correct all along ? Our season has been nothing but a shambles from the moment we all knew Malky was getting the boot , we have thrown away premiership football .. Every post someone having a dig at annis about him being negative about the current manager , what the hell is there to be positive about ?

To be fair to annis u have all shot him down but he was rite all along , Malky should never have got the sack and ole is useless , he was only saying it how it is , why can't some of u reds that have got your heads up tans arse admit you was wrong and annis called it correct all along ? Our season has been nothing but a shambles from the moment we all knew Malky was getting the boot , we have thrown away premiership football .. Every post someone having a dig at annis about him being negative about the current manager , what the hell is there to be positive about ?

Because Annis hasn't got it right, simple as!

Natman trolling again.

In that case it would be like trolling a troll wouldn't it? And look, there you are

What username were you before this one?

Natman whinges when negative things are written & then tells Annis he may should write negative things when he hasn't!

I notice he hasn't answered his question either.

So why aren't people allowed to criticise players Natman?

Alex, it would be nice if Nat was man enough to apologies regarding Whitts,but he is prob searching through my 41,000 posts hoping to find something on Whitts

Don't flatter yourself. Nothing to apologise for! I forgot that in your eyes its also quite alright to insult the current manager as well.

Just tired to the back teeth of your attempts to undermine the club. A view held by people on here as well as myself is that you can't wait for the club to fail just to say "I told you so". Also, Strange how chuckles jumps straight on a post i make and has done for the past number of weeks/month yet nothing is said by you about him hmmm.

You really are a weird one Natman.

Accusing Annis of wanting the club to fail is beyond a joke. I've known him since the early days of hammam. He is as passionate a fan as there is. All he wants is for his club (which is my club and your club too) is for it to have the right identity. That identity is blue with bluebird badge. I want that too. You'd rather see us in red the same colour as Bristol city and Liverpool. The same colour that has nothing to do with our long history. I struggle to get excited for home games this season. Seeing us play Liverpool and Man United at home with us in red hurt me like hell. The best game I've been to was arsenal away. Playing in blue and surrounded by real cardiff fans (likevAnnis) supporting our team in blue.

You clearly have no respect for the traditions and values of our club.

Read my later post again Gareth, its not only my view, its one held by quite a number of other people. I shall however leave it to them to come forward

I'm responding to you.

How can you have any respect for Tan after the way he has screwed the club. Not invested much just loaned us a shed load of cash at a high interest rate despite saying rebrand would see debt to equity.

I'd rather us in conference in blue than where we are in red.

Until the point where he walks away without converting then I'm not prepared to admit that he hasn't or won't do it. So in my view he hasn't screwed the club. He's done it at a far more favourable rate of interest (7%), which is far from being a high interest rate. If I'm correct, neither has he claimed any payment on any of that interest and neither has he demanded payment on any of that money.

In response to your last sentence: I just want to support the boys and team, regardless of colour or division. Wish others could too rather than continually sniping at the club.

The club have been covering for him big time.FLORIDA???? Perhaps annis or carl might have heard this as well and may be able to confirm it.Certain players pissed off with him as well.Stoke at home or FLORIDA take your pick!!!

We have stayed away from any of the naughty stuff shall we call it this season until the season has finished, as in the past we have been blamed for shit stirring etc when the players have been guilty of things and everything we had said was later proved correct once they had left the club, yet in my opinion if they are guilty of it, it should be said, but we cant win.

So lets wait till the season is over

In for a penny in for a pound, you've already said enough negative stuff about the club!

Not about the players, just about Tan that was in the media any way

You've had enough of a go at Whitts

Nat
Please show me once when I have posted any dirt on him?

Just said that he doesnt play to his full potential and that he is not consistant

Surely as a fan thats what we debate dont we? your really clutching at straws

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Natman trolling again.

In that case it would be like trolling a troll wouldn't it? And look, there you are

What username were you before this one?

Natman whinges when negative things are written & then tells Annis he may should write negative things when he hasn't!

I notice he hasn't answered his question either.

So why aren't people allowed to criticise players Natman?

Alex, it would be nice if Nat was man enough to apologies regarding Whitts,but he is prob searching through my 41,000 posts hoping to find something on Whitts

Don't flatter yourself. Nothing to apologise for! I forgot that in your eyes its also quite alright to insult the current manager as well.

Just tired to the back teeth of your attempts to undermine the club. A view held by people on here as well as myself is that you can't wait for the club to fail just to say "I told you so". Also, Strange how chuckles jumps straight on a post i make and has done for the past number of weeks/month yet nothing is said by you about him hmmm.

You really are a weird one Natman.

Accusing Annis of wanting the club to fail is beyond a joke. I've known him since the early days of hammam. He is as passionate a fan as there is. All he wants is for his club (which is my club and your club too) is for it to have the right identity. That identity is blue with bluebird badge. I want that too. You'd rather see us in red the same colour as Bristol city and Liverpool. The same colour that has nothing to do with our long history. I struggle to get excited for home games this season. Seeing us play Liverpool and Man United at home with us in red hurt me like hell. The best game I've been to was arsenal away. Playing in blue and surrounded by real cardiff fans (likevAnnis) supporting our team in blue.

You clearly have no respect for the traditions and values of our club.

Read my later post again Gareth, its not only my view, its one held by quite a number of other people. I shall however leave it to them to come forward

I'm responding to you.

How can you have any respect for Tan after the way he has screwed the club. Not invested much just loaned us a shed load of cash at a high interest rate despite saying rebrand would see debt to equity.

I'd rather us in conference in blue than where we are in red.

Until the point where he walks away without converting then I'm not prepared to admit that he hasn't or won't do it. So in my view he hasn't screwed the club. He's done it at a far more favourable rate of interest (7%), which is far from being a high interest rate. If I'm correct, neither has he claimed any payment on any of that interest and neither has he demanded payment on any of that money.

In response to your last sentence: I just want to support the boys and team, regardless of colour or division. Wish others could too rather than continually sniping at the club.

Interest at7%. Last time I looked base rate was 0.5%. Most loans and mortgages the rate is about 4%.

Tan is an idiot. He has divided our fanbase and people like you back him. He has no respect for the club so why do you show him respect?

The sooner he goes the better. I've seen ccfc playing in crowds below 2000 and have seen us play in all 4 leagues. This season will go down as one of the worst yet it should have been one of the best.

Try and get an unsecured debt and see what the interest rate is then! The average credit card if 19%

Tan hasn't divided the fan base. Tan changed the colour and people's idiotic behaviour since has further divided the fan base that was already divided prior to Tan even coming to the club.

so have I, and I think the one where we nearly dropped out of the football league and got hammered 7-0 at home to cambridge will rank amongst one of the worst for me.

Try and get an unsecured debt and see what the interest rate is then! The average credit card if 19%

Tan hasn't divided the fan base. Tan changed the colour and people's idiotic behaviour since has further divided the fan base that was already divided prior to Tan even coming to the club.

so have I, and I think the one where we nearly dropped out of the football league and got hammered 7-0 at home to cambridge will rank amongst one of the worst for me.

0-7 are you sure ?

Tan hasn't divided the fan base.

this is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen you say in defence of Tan.

Tan changed the colour and people's idiotic behaviour since has further divided the fan base that was already divided prior to Tan even coming to the club.

idiotic behaviour? How is peaceful protest in any way idiotic?

We get that you don't give two shits about the identity if the club or it's traditions, but your constant refusal to give Tan any criticism of his tenure, is ludicrous.

Try and get an unsecured debt and see what the interest rate is then! The average credit card if 19%

Tan hasn't divided the fan base. Tan changed the colour and people's idiotic behaviour since has further divided the fan base that was already divided prior to Tan even coming to the club.

so have I, and I think the one where we nearly dropped out of the football league and got hammered 7-0 at home to cambridge will rank amongst one of the worst for me.

0-7 are you sure ?

2-7 then, I was only 14 at the time lol

Try and get an unsecured debt and see what the interest rate is then! The average credit card if 19%

Tan hasn't divided the fan base. Tan changed the colour and people's idiotic behaviour since has further divided the fan base that was already divided prior to Tan even coming to the club.

so have I, and I think the one where we nearly dropped out of the football league and got hammered 7-0 at home to cambridge will rank amongst one of the worst for m
0-7 are you sure ?

2-7 then, I was only 14 at the time lol

So you lied

Natman your a f*cking muppet fair play. You haven't got a clue about anything.

Stick to trying to start wrestling chants you freak.

Natman your a f*cking muppet fair play. You haven't got a clue about anything.

Stick to trying to start wrestling chants you freak.

Thank you!

Try and get an unsecured debt and see what the interest rate is then! The average credit card if 19%

Tan hasn't divided the fan base. Tan changed the colour and people's idiotic behaviour since has further divided the fan base that was already divided prior to Tan even coming to the club.

so have I, and I think the one where we nearly dropped out of the football league and got hammered 7-0 at home to cambridge will rank amongst one of the worst for m
0-7 are you sure ?

2-7 then, I was only 14 at the time lol

So you lied

lol, according to many people on here's incorrect definition of the word then I will probably get accused of that now too

So did Bellamy f**k off too Florida or something? Without the clubs permission?

Natman your a f*cking muppet fair play. You haven't got a clue about anything.

Stick to trying to start wrestling chants you freak.

Thats not entirely true! He got this one right

Is going to be a common thread on here for The next few days and is an ill informed opinion!

Tan hasn't divided the fan base.

this is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen you say in defence of Tan.

Tan changed the colour and people's idiotic behaviour since has further divided the fan base that was already divided prior to Tan even coming to the club.

idiotic behaviour? How is peaceful protest in any way idiotic?

We get that you don't give two shits about the identity if the club or it's traditions, but your constant refusal to give Tan any criticism of his tenure, is ludicrous.

Barry there's absolutely no use talking to the muppet!
He's cut from the same cloth as Roathy, the more you engage with him the more he loves it!

Tan hasn't divided the fan base.

this is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen you say in defence of Tan.

Tan changed the colour and people's idiotic behaviour since has further divided the fan base that was already divided prior to Tan even coming to the club.

idiotic behaviour? How is peaceful protest in any way idiotic?

We get that you don't give two shits about the identity if the club or it's traditions, but your constant refusal to give Tan any criticism of his tenure, is ludicrous.

Barry there's absolutely no use talking to the muppet!
He's cut from the same cloth as Roathy, the more you engage with him the more he loves it!

Which, ironically, is the exact criticism of Barry and why I won't respond to him!

To be fair to annis u have all shot him down but he was rite all along , Malky should never have got the sack and ole is useless , he was only saying it how it is , why can't some of u reds that have got your heads up tans arse admit you was wrong and annis called it correct all along ? Our season has been nothing but a shambles from the moment we all knew Malky was getting the boot , we have thrown away premiership football .. Every post someone having a dig at annis about him being negative about the current manager , what the hell is there to be positive about ?

just because ( ole is the wrong man in your opinion) doesn't automatically make malky the right man, the only chance we had for survival in the epl was to buy wisely in the summer something malky failed to do, and to call people red tan lovers because they could see malky failed in the transfer market is pathetic ..the trouble with this board is if you say malky fcked up and blew our budget your a red tan lover is it possible to be glad malky got sacked and not be a tan lover or do they go hand in hand ?

So did Bellamy f**k off too Florida or something? Without the clubs permission?

Supposed to have, yeah

Natman trolling again.

In that case it would be like trolling a troll wouldn't it? And look, there you are

What username were you before this one?

Natman whinges when negative things are written & then tells Annis he may should write negative things when he hasn't!

I notice he hasn't answered his question either.

So why aren't people allowed to criticise players Natman?

Alex, it would be nice if Nat was man enough to apologies regarding Whitts,but he is prob searching through my 41,000 posts hoping to find something on Whitts

Don't flatter yourself. Nothing to apologise for! I forgot that in your eyes its also quite alright to insult the current manager as well.

Just tired to the back teeth of your attempts to undermine the club. A view held by people on here as well as myself is that you can't wait for the club to fail just to say "I told you so". Also, Strange how chuckles jumps straight on a post i make and has done for the past number of weeks/month yet nothing is said by you about him hmmm.

Natman I agree with much you say but on this you are wrong pal. Annis might give his opinion which he is entitled to do (as is everyone) but you will not find a fan who backs them more where it counts and that's home and away on the terraces.

Natman trolling again.

In that case it would be like trolling a troll wouldn't it? And look, there you are

What username were you before this one?

Natman whinges when negative things are written & then tells Annis he may should write negative things when he hasn't!

I notice he hasn't answered his question either.

So why aren't people allowed to criticise players Natman?

Alex, it would be nice if Nat was man enough to apologies regarding Whitts,but he is prob searching through my 41,000 posts hoping to find something on Whitts

Don't flatter yourself. Nothing to apologise for! I forgot that in your eyes its also quite alright to insult the current manager as well.

Just tired to the back teeth of your attempts to undermine the club. A view held by people on here as well as myself is that you can't wait for the club to fail just to say "I told you so". Also, Strange how chuckles jumps straight on a post i make and has done for the past number of weeks/month yet nothing is said by you about him hmmm.

Natman I agree with much you say but on this you are wrong pal. Annis might give his opinion which he is entitled to do (as is everyone) but you will not find a fan who backs them more where it counts and that's home and away on the terraces.

I would have to second that 100%

Natman trolling again.

In that case it would be like trolling a troll wouldn't it? And look, there you are

What username were you before this one?

Natman whinges when negative things are written & then tells Annis he may should write negative things when he hasn't!

I notice he hasn't answered his question either.

So why aren't people allowed to criticise players Natman?

Alex, it would be nice if Nat was man enough to apologies regarding Whitts,but he is prob searching through my 41,000 posts hoping to find something on Whitts

Don't flatter yourself. Nothing to apologise for! I forgot that in your eyes its also quite alright to insult the current manager as well.

Just tired to the back teeth of your attempts to undermine the club. A view held by people on here as well as myself is that you can't wait for the club to fail just to say "I told you so". Also, Strange how chuckles jumps straight on a post i make and has done for the past number of weeks/month yet nothing is said by you about him hmmm.

Natman I agree with much you say but on this you are wrong pal. Annis might give his opinion which he is entitled to do (as is everyone) but you will not find a fan who backs them more where it counts and that's home and away on the terraces.

Cheers mate! But why do I get the feeling he can't wait for them to fail or that when you put the sum of his actions together its nothing but to undermine and criticse the club... constantly?

Natman trolling again.

In that case it would be like trolling a troll wouldn't it? And look, there you are

What username were you before this one?

Natman whinges when negative things are written & then tells Annis he may should write negative things when he hasn't!

I notice he hasn't answered his question either.

So why aren't people allowed to criticise players Natman?

Alex, it would be nice if Nat was man enough to apologies regarding Whitts,but he is prob searching through my 41,000 posts hoping to find something on Whitts

Don't flatter yourself. Nothing to apologise for! I forgot that in your eyes its also quite alright to insult the current manager as well.

Just tired to the back teeth of your attempts to undermine the club. A view held by people on here as well as myself is that you can't wait for the club to fail just to say "I told you so". Also, Strange how chuckles jumps straight on a post i make and has done for the past number of weeks/month yet nothing is said by you about him hmmm.

Natman I agree with much you say but on this you are wrong pal. Annis might give his opinion which he is entitled to do (as is everyone) but you will not find a fan who backs them more where it counts and that's home and away on the terraces.

Cheers mate! But why do I get the feeling he can't wait for them to fail or that when you put the sum of his actions together its nothing but to undermine and criticse the club... constantly?

Natman, this is a forum to debate and give opinions

Yes I despise Tan and the Rebrand and thats my right

When I am at a match all I care about is supporting my team Cardiff City

Supporting is more that minute 0 to 90. Its about an atmosphere before the game, ready for the game to lift the boys to outperform the opposition. Your constant negativity towards the club, how it oozes from this forum and into the fan base complete counter acts that. If you really support the team then get the fans behind them instead of posting, constantly, all this rubbish that serves to turn the fans against them.

Supporting is more that minute 0 to 90. Its about an atmosphere before the game, ready for the game to lift the boys to outperform the opposition. Your constant negativity towards the club, how it oozes from this forum and into the fan base complete counter acts that. If you really support the team then get the fans behind them instead of posting, constantly, all this rubbish that serves to turn the fans against them.

BLAME ONE PERSON FOR MY NEGATIVITY " DICTATOR VINCENT TAN " END OFF AND IVE SADLY BEEN PROVED RIGHT.

Night night Nat

Supporting is more that minute 0 to 90. Its about an atmosphere before the game, ready for the game to lift the boys to outperform the opposition. Your constant negativity towards the club, how it oozes from this forum and into the fan base complete counter acts that. If you really support the team then get the fans behind them instead of posting, constantly, all this rubbish that serves to turn the fans against them.

BLAME ONE PERSON FOR MY NEGATIVITY " DICTATOR VINCENT TAN " END OFF AND IVE SADLY BEEN PROVED RIGHT.

Night night Nat

Nope, you've not been proved right and there are others here beside myself who strongly believe you are wrong and just wonder what you are really up to.

Ok, and all you've done is use your position on this board to create unrest amongst the fan base and an overtly intense and pressurised atmosphere around the club.

So answer me a question, what is more important to you?

1) Being able to constantly post negativity around the club to adversely manipulate the fan base against the club and see us get relegated

or

2)to put that to one side and generate some postitivity around the club to help create a positive atmosphere to spur the boys on to get a win and possibly avoid relegegation?

Supporting is more that minute 0 to 90. Its about an atmosphere before the game, ready for the game to lift the boys to outperform the opposition. Your constant negativity towards the club, how it oozes from this forum and into the fan base complete counter acts that. If you really support the team then get the fans behind them instead of posting, constantly, all this rubbish that serves to turn the fans against them.

BLAME ONE PERSON FOR MY NEGATIVITY " DICTATOR VINCENT TAN " END OFF AND IVE SADLY BEEN PROVED RIGHT.

Night night Nat

Nope, you've not been proved right and there are others here beside myself who strongly believe you are wrong and just wonder what you are really up to.

Ok, and all you've done is use your position on this board to create unrest amongst the fan base and an overtly intense and pressurised atmosphere around the club.

So answer me a question, what is more important to you?

1) Being able to constantly post negativity around the club to adversely manipulate the fan base against the club and see us get relegated

or

2)to put that to one side and generate some postitivity around the club to help create a positive atmosphere to spur the boys on to get a win and possibly avoid relegegation?

Whats most important to me is to say how you feel and say the truth and be allowed your opinion

I'm BLUE Your Red

Night