WOULD MALKY HAVE KEPT US UP? THIS STAT PROVES IT

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

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Are people really that thick to endorse this "stat".

Fulham won the first game of the season away at Sunderland. Buy your logic their points average after one game = 3 therefore 3 times 38 = 114 points for the season. Fulham are champions, Jol should never have been sacked. What a clown their owner is.

Why would someone be so thick as to try to prove their point that stats are useless by comparing the result of ONE game to that of the combined results of EIGHTEEN games

Are people really that thick to endorse this "stat".

Fulham won the first game of the season away at Sunderland. Buy your logic their points average after one game = 3 therefore 3 times 38 = 114 points for the season. Fulham are champions, Jol should never have been sacked. What a clown their owner is.

Why would someone be so thick as to try to prove their point that stats are useless by comparing the result of ONE game to that of the combined results of EIGHTEEN games

That's kind of my point, this isn't a stat at all it's pure conjecture. You know full well that Malky was sacked right before our toughest run of fixtures.

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

Stats prove nothing

Are people really that thick to endorse this "stat".

Fulham won the first game of the season away at Sunderland. Buy your logic their points average after one game = 3 therefore 3 times 38 = 114 points for the season. Fulham are champions, Jol should never have been sacked. What a clown their owner is.

Why would someone be so thick as to try to prove their point that stats are useless by comparing the result of ONE game to that of the combined results of EIGHTEEN games

That's kind of my point, this isn't a stat at all it's pure conjecture. You know full well that Malky was sacked right before our toughest run of fixtures.

So your saying that, he would have done even worse then?

That's a projection and a prediction rather than fact. Malky didn't have a real brand of football an we were sussed early on. Not to mention that other teams around us started picking up points and may have done so if Malky was still here anyway

Malky did have a brand of football, he set us up hard to beat. Might not like or enjoy it but that was his brand. Genuine question, what is Ole's brand ? We've all heard that it's attacking, expansive football but we've yet to see it.

Free flowing concede, concede, concede.

malky hard to beat with second worse defence in premier!! malky defend defend concede!

There seems to be much debate whether or not Malky would have kept us up. The general concensus seems to be that most supporters may have the gut feeling that he would have done. I don't include myself in that, as I feel the problems were already there in that we didn't address the goal scoring issue from last year and the defence although never say die was stil fragile. So my conclusion was, that although we would not have got stuffed by teams apart from your top 6, we would still have lost by the odd goal.
Just looking at the other messageboard, I copied this stat posted by Des Parrott, which I feel is the best evidence yet that Malky would have indeed failed to keep us up

"Malky ..... 4-5-9 13-28 17pts 0.944pts / game
Kerslake .. 0-1-1 2- 4 1pts 0.500pts / game
Solskjaer . 3-3-10 16-37 12pts 0.750pts / game

0.944 x 36 games = 34 points, 4 more than we have now."

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Malky also had a harder set of fixtures, only playing 2 out of the ten teams above us in the league at home in his 18 games.

ffs lads malky mac,clown left months ago and your still pining after him,let it go move on ffs he had his chance and he blew it in the summer transfer window, thats why he got booted

This club is all about support tan or having a go at tan now. It sad people's minds are so twisted they can't have an opinion without it going back to that.

This club is all about support tan or having a go at tan now. It sad people's minds are so twisted they can't have an opinion without it going back to that.

Its even worse that people can't post something without that being the intention!

I Would have liked MM to have had a full season in the Prem' League so we would know the answer to this question.

MM got us up with the players and the transfer money he was given from our owner .
So Mr Tan has got a profit from his investment,which he trusted in the transfers made by MM .

What should have happened at the time - was that Mr Tan should have given MM a short contract when in the Championship with a performance related contract if we get into the Prem' League and stayed there.

As for this years Jan transfer window - Tan would have been better to have said to MM - I have given you more than what i said openly in public ( remember how much money he boasted last season on tv- he said was there to be spent ).
So get rid of some of these players who you don't need /who are not part of your plans - There is your transfer budget .

I Would have liked MM to have had a full season in the Prem' League so we would know the answer to this question.

MM got us up with the players and the transfer money he was given from our owner .
So Mr Tan has got a profit from his investment,which he trusted in the transfers made by MM .

What should have happened at the time - was that Mr Tan should have given MM a short contract when in the Championship with a performance related contract if we get into the Prem' League and stayed there.

As for this years Jan transfer window - Tan would have been better to have said to MM - I have given you more than what i said openly in public ( remember how much money he boasted last season on tv- he said was there to be spent ).
So get rid of some of these players who you don't need /who are not part of your plans - There is your transfer budget .

I Would have liked MM to have had a full season in the Prem' League so we would know the answer to this question.

MM got us up with the players and the transfer money he was given from our owner .
So Mr Tan has got a profit from his investment,which he trusted in the transfers made by MM .

What should have happened at the time - was that Mr Tan should have given MM a short contract when in the Championship with a performance related contract if we get into the Prem' League and stayed there.

As for this years Jan transfer window - Tan would have been better to have said to MM - I have given you more than what i said openly in public ( remember how much money he boasted last season on tv- he said was there to be spent ).
So get rid of some of these players who you don't need /who are not part of your plans - There is your transfer budget .

The issue with that being that there was little to no value in those fringe players in order to generate enough further transfer funds to add to what Malky had already wasted.

I Would have liked MM to have had a full season in the Prem' League so we would know the answer to this question.

MM got us up with the players and the transfer money he was given from our owner .
So Mr Tan has got a profit from his investment,which he trusted in the transfers made by MM .

What should have happened at the time - was that Mr Tan should have given MM a short contract when in the Championship with a performance related contract if we get into the Prem' League and stayed there.

As for this years Jan transfer window - Tan would have been better to have said to MM - I have given you more than what i said openly in public ( remember how much money he boasted last season on tv- he said was there to be spent ).
So get rid of some of these players who you don't need /who are not part of your plans - There is your transfer budget .

The issue with that being that there was little to no value in those fringe players in order to generate enough further transfer funds to add to what Malky had already wasted.

Agree with their value,but we would have got them off the wage bill.
Both Tan and MM - Should have stopped at a figure to spend before the end of the 1st transfer window.

I Would have liked MM to have had a full season in the Prem' League so we would know the answer to this question.

MM got us up with the players and the transfer money he was given from our owner .
So Mr Tan has got a profit from his investment,which he trusted in the transfers made by MM .

What should have happened at the time - was that Mr Tan should have given MM a short contract when in the Championship with a performance related contract if we get into the Prem' League and stayed there.

As for this years Jan transfer window - Tan would have been better to have said to MM - I have given you more than what i said openly in public ( remember how much money he boasted last season on tv- he said was there to be spent ).
So get rid of some of these players who you don't need /who are not part of your plans - There is your transfer budget .

The issue with that being that there was little to no value in those fringe players in order to generate enough further transfer funds to add to what Malky had already wasted.

Agree with their value,but we would have got them off the wage bill.
Both Tan and MM - Should have stopped at a figure to spend before the end of the 1st transfer window.

Think I agree with you there. The only addendum I would put to that is we don't know the conversations that took place. As some have alluded Malky could have suggested to tan (being the football 'expert'), "get me these players and we'll keep you up, ok its a little over budget but it'll be worth it and I guarantee you xyz"

natman please die you boring c**t

natman please die you boring c**t

I Would have liked MM to have had a full season in the Prem' League so we would know the answer to this question.

MM got us up with the players and the transfer money he was given from our owner .
So Mr Tan has got a profit from his investment,which he trusted in the transfers made by MM .

What should have happened at the time - was that Mr Tan should have given MM a short contract when in the Championship with a performance related contract if we get into the Prem' League and stayed there.

As for this years Jan transfer window - Tan would have been better to have said to MM - I have given you more than what i said openly in public ( remember how much money he boasted last season on tv- he said was there to be spent ).
So get rid of some of these players who you don't need /who are not part of your plans - There is your transfer budget .

Tony, with wages Malky has thrown about, even with the premiership money we wont be in profit.

£60m on transfers in last two seasons, the wage bill in the championship promotion season was 30m so god help what this years is going to be, plus weve signed mediocre players to long term contracts.

All in all one big f**k up from M&M and Tan has every right to be pissed.

natman please die you boring c**t

Well I asked nicely....

people using the "malky had us above the relegation zone" line really get on my nerves.

We were only heading one way, especially with the games coming up, could have had Jose as manager with Bale on the pitch and it wouldnt have mattered.

people using the "malky had us above the relegation zone" line really get on my nerves.

We were only heading one way, especially with the games coming up, could have had Jose as manager with Bale on the pitch and it wouldnt have mattered.

When people use that line I just point out that Arsenal were top of the league after 18 games

I don't understand why people actually believed tan when he said he didn't know how much he was spending.

A businessman not signing off the use of his own money or having financial advisers to give the go ahead for moves? Fkin no chance.

Mackay and Moody are not money men. It would be total suicide to give them complete control over finances. Which is why I think it is total BS.

I don't understand why people actually believed tan when he said he didn't know how much he was spending.

A businessman not signing off the use of his own money or having financial advisers to give the go ahead for moves? Fkin no chance.

Mackay and Moody are not money men. It would be total suicide to give them complete control over finances. Which is why I think it is total BS.

Do you know how many businesses Tan owns?

Do you think he signs the cheques off on every single one

We are not talking Joe Bloggs with one business here you complete moron.

Then you have literally no idea about business. A small business owner has financial advisers.

Stop making excuses for tan ffs.

That is how gullible you are, after everything tan has done you actually believe anything he says just to discredit Mackay. Tan has openly lied to us since day one.

He is not that rich that spending £35 millon is nothing.

Then you have literally no idea about business. A small business owner has financial advisers.

Stop making excuses for tan ffs.

That is how gullible you are, after everything tan has done you actually believe anything he says just to discredit Mackay. Tan has openly lied to us since day one.

He is not that rich that spending £35 millon is nothing.

What has his personal wealth got to do with the spending of one of his companies you fool?

The company I work makes purchases of £10m a year, the owners personal wealth is nowhere near that.

As far as the budget goes I dont need to make ANY excuses for Tan it was completely and utterly wasted by Malky and Moody.

Anyone with an ounce of football sense can see that. Sadly, as proven many times (Taylor is class LMFAO) you dont fall into that catergory.

I cannot stand Tan for what he has done to our identity but I will blame him for the things he has done wrong, and the only thing he done wrong in the summer was letting those pair of pricks spend the 40m he made available.

You don't understand what proof means.

Since Arsenal with Wenger topped the league table (and therefore points per game) in december 2013, not firing Wenger would obviously ensure that their points per game streak would continue right? No, that's stupid and it did not happen.

Then you have literally no idea about business. A small business owner has financial advisers.

Stop making excuses for tan ffs.

That is how gullible you are, after everything tan has done you actually believe anything he says just to discredit Mackay. Tan has openly lied to us since day one.

He is not that rich that spending £35 millon is nothing.

What has his personal wealth got to do with the spending of one of his companies you fool?

The company I work makes purchases of £10m a year, the owners personal wealth is nowhere near that.

As far as the budget goes I dont need to make ANY excuses for Tan it was completely and utterly wasted by Malky and Moody.

Anyone with an ounce of football sense can see that. Sadly, as proven many times (Taylor is class LMFAO) you dont fall into that catergory.

I cannot stand Tan for what he has done to our identity but I will blame him for the things he has done wrong, and the only thing he done wrong in the summer was letting those pair of pricks spend the 40m he made available.

Mackay may have spent some of the money badly, but Tan saying he had no knowledge of how he was spending it is I'm afraid a lie.

I said Taylor was class last year, and can be class on his day. Been over this a few times and I said in the past that I like players for more than a short period. I am not a 5 year old with the attention span of a goldfish.

You are making excuses for Tan, that is all you and the anti-mackay bum brigade do.

natman please die you boring c**t

No, its ok, I'm still here and will stay here too.

Then you have literally no idea about business. A small business owner has financial advisers.

Stop making excuses for tan ffs.

That is how gullible you are, after everything tan has done you actually believe anything he says just to discredit Mackay. Tan has openly lied to us since day one.

He is not that rich that spending £35 millon is nothing.

What has his personal wealth got to do with the spending of one of his companies you fool?

The company I work makes purchases of £10m a year, the owners personal wealth is nowhere near that.

As far as the budget goes I dont need to make ANY excuses for Tan it was completely and utterly wasted by Malky and Moody.

Anyone with an ounce of football sense can see that. Sadly, as proven many times (Taylor is class LMFAO) you dont fall into that catergory.

I cannot stand Tan for what he has done to our identity but I will blame him for the things he has done wrong, and the only thing he done wrong in the summer was letting those pair of pricks spend the 40m he made available.

Mackay may have spent some of the money badly, but Tan saying he had no knowledge of how he was spending it is I'm afraid a lie.

I said Taylor was class last year, and can be class on his day. Been over this a few times and I said in the past that I like players for more than a short period. I am not a 5 year old with the attention span of a goldfish.

You are making excuses for Tan, that is all you and the anti-mackay bum brigade do.

"Spent SOME of the money badly"