" When it really mattered "

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

How were we hard to beat?

I watched us every week and we werent. This isnt about the new regime, this is about Malky failing.....which he clearly did

Malky did not fail. He was undermined to the extent where no manager could operate but even then we were not cut adrift at the bottom of the league. It would be nice if you could admit that Tans plan to replace Malky has failed but I'm not holding my breath.

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Im not going to be bothered. Samo old bs over and over again. Thankfully no one is going nowere and Ole know exactly how you feel and what you have been saying since game 7. Speaking of pundits, every single one, every manager and everey comment i have read or spoken to say Ole should stay, so im leaving it there. Even Tan understand this.

Im not going to be bothered. Samo old bs over and over again. Thankfully no one is going nowere and Ole know exactly how you feel and what you have been saying since game 7. Speaking of pundits, not a single one, not a manager and everey comment i have read or spoken to say Ole should stay, so im leaving it there. Even Tan understand this.

Tan will not stick with Ole. If you can believe him then he is results driven and Ole has failed. I think that if we are mid table in the championship after a few games then Tan will drop Ole in a flash and the circus will continue.

Could you not add West Ham ?

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

How were we hard to beat?

I watched us every week and we werent. This isnt about the new regime, this is about Malky failing.....which he clearly did

Malky did not fail. He was undermined to the extent where no manager could operate but even then we were not cut adrift at the bottom of the league. It would be nice if you could admit that Tans plan to replace Malky has failed but I'm not holding my breath.

There was no gamble getting rid of Malky, it had to happen as much to do with off field reasons as on. Malky had lost at least half the dressing room and if in the summer, Malky cant get his out of court settlement he wants and the apparent "truth" comes out, it will change opinion on your saviour no end. Incidentally, I hope that doesnt happen.

Can we keep to this topic and not try and change it or blame others Cheers
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/

" When it really mattered "

When the games that really mattered under Ole we got smashed,embarrassed and hammered and before you say here we go another shot at Ole, the facts don't lie.

In such a short space of time.

Can we all be honest, these were the big games.

Hull City home 4 nil loss
Swansea away 3 nil loss
Crystal Palace home 3 nil loss
Sunderland away 4 nil loss.

Sorry but there can't be any excuses for this.

What worries me is that Ole was naive and his inexperience as a manager in the Premier League, but at least he had some experience of it as a player,yet he knows nothing about the Championship.

Do you honestly feel Ole will bring us straight back up as thanks to our £130 mill debt created by Vincent Tan we have to come straight back up?

http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/

Nobody knows if ole can bring us back up but he should get time like other managers and be given a fair chance
Ole didn't have the time to make any major changes regarding players but if he stays then he has had enough time to assess the squad and should know whose leaving who staying and who he wants to bring in..
I believe he could get us back up but only time will tell
Oh and When it really mattered malky wasted millions and millions on crap you can't blame one without the others

So keeping to thetopic
quote="Forever Blue"]Can we keep to this topic and not try and change it or blame others Cheers
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/

" When it really mattered "

When the games that really mattered under Ole we got smashed,embarrassed and hammered and before you say here we go another shot at Ole, the facts don't lie.......

Hull City home 4 nil loss
Swansea away 3 nil loss
Crystal Palace home 3 nil loss
Sunderland away 4 nil loss./////// COMMENT
No these were poor performances! In the early games he was stillfinding his best team but performances like Palace at home were dismal and the players share the blame.
In the Sunderland game there were mitigating factors ie we had weathered the initial storm and were playing OK then poor defending at a corner andan individual error by Cala put pay to things. In fairness I thought the teamtried hard and you could see OGS s plan for the game. Keep it tight then change personnel and and nick it later on.

Sorry but there can't be any excuses.........//////
COMMENT
No excuses only facts....
Ole took too long to find his best team FACT.
But in the cold light of day you look at the WHOLE season and say we were not quite good enough. There were lots of reasons which added together resulted in us failing. We wont have missed out by many points and that makes it even harder to swallow.

OGS inherited a mess of a squad FACT and therefore both MM and VT must also take a lot of the blame. MM did great things to get us promoted and then with the biggest budget of the promoted teams ....he squadered it. In my mind the only decent buy for the money was Caulker and he needed an older experienced head with him. It was obviousthat we lacked a
1/A striker who could score goals. I think Cornelius could well be one for the future and I hope he suceeds (Ala Connor Wickham!) but we needed someone up and ready
2/A leader / captain (in the absence of Hudson).
For me both Cornelius (not ready) and Medel (very limited for the money) were big mistakes.

Do you honestly feel Ole will bring us straight back up as thanks to our £130 mill debt created by Vincent Tan we have to come straight back up?
COMMENT
I honestly dont know. It will largely depend on what players stay, and if any more moneyi s made available. In any case I think that if OGS stays with us then he deserves a chance. Just as (if The relationsip between MM and VT had not broken down) I would have given MM till the end of the season. I think he deserved that chance despite the poor style of football and bad run of results at the end of his management reign.
Whoever is in charge we need to get behind the manager and not get be too negative if there are a few bad results. Ive waited 50 years to see Cardiff in the top league and if we are going down then lets get back there asap.

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

but how many games did we play before man city? from that day on the game plan was the same! or have you forgotten palace away? ect ect simple facts are that because of tans meddling and malkies crap dossier system on poor transfers, we are where we are! if anyone only blames ole for our position they are totally loved in with malky!

Can we keep to this topic and not try and change it or blame others Cheers
http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/

" When it really mattered "

When the games that really mattered under Ole we got smashed,embarrassed and hammered and before you say here we go another shot at Ole, the facts don't lie.

In such a short space of time.

Can we all be honest, these were the big games.

Hull City home 4 nil loss
Swansea away 3 nil loss
Crystal Palace home 3 nil loss
Sunderland away 4 nil loss.

Sorry but there can't be any excuses for this.

What worries me is that Ole was naive and his inexperience as a manager in the Premier League, but at least he had some experience of it as a player,yet he knows nothing about the Championship.

Do you honestly feel Ole will bring us straight back up as thanks to our £130 mill debt created by Vincent Tan we have to come straight back up?

http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/news/

So this thread is ok to post in aslong as we blame ole and nobody else

agree we should of got a lot more from these games but i wouldn't put all the blame on ole,the players just never turned up

I agree Mark, the players have to shoulder some of the blame,but the buck stops at the manager for these awful results and if we had got something from any of these games we would not be bottom of the Prem.
These teams were not exactly the elite of the Premier League.

I think that you are also forgetting that Malky was also hugely inexperienced, he had never managed in the Premiership before either. I think from the signings that he made or more importantly didn't make was the main reason for us getting relegated. He was naive, as is OGS. Even Holloway, who had a Premiership season under his belt with blackpool struggled hugely.

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

How were we hard to beat?

I watched us every week and we werent. This isnt about the new regime, this is about Malky failing.....which he clearly did

Malky did not fail. He was undermined to the extent where no manager could operate but even then we were not cut adrift at the bottom of the league. It would be nice if you could admit that Tans plan to replace Malky has failed but I'm not holding my breath.

There was no gamble getting rid of Malky, it had to happen as much to do with off field reasons as on. Malky had lost at least half the dressing room and if in the summer, Malky cant get his out of court settlement he wants and the apparent "truth" comes out, it will change opinion on your saviour no end. Incidentally, I hope that doesnt happen.

Malky doesn't want 'his out of court settlement' - he wants what he is owed under the terms of his contract. If anybody is wanting an out of court settlement it is Tan - so that he can try to renege on the contract, pay off Malky less than is stated in the contract and include a gagging order on Malky - to ensure that none of us know the extent that Tan was meddling.

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

How were we hard to beat?

I watched us every week and we werent. This isnt about the new regime, this is about Malky failing.....which he clearly did

Malky did not fail. He was undermined to the extent where no manager could operate but even then we were not cut adrift at the bottom of the league. It would be nice if you could admit that Tans plan to replace Malky has failed but I'm not holding my breath.

There was no gamble getting rid of Malky, it had to happen as much to do with off field reasons as on. Malky had lost at least half the dressing room and if in the summer, Malky cant get his out of court settlement he wants and the apparent "truth" comes out, it will change opinion on your saviour no end. Incidentally, I hope that doesnt happen.

Malky doesn't want 'his out of court settlement' - he wants what he is owed under the terms of his contract. If anybody is wanting an out of court settlement it is Tan - so that he can try to renege on the contract, pay off Malky less than is stated in the contract and include a gagging order on Malky - to ensure that none of us know the extent that Tan was meddling.

Malky has tried to settle out of court. Tan has refused.

This summer is going to upset a lot of people on here.

People defending Malky

His teams always perform worse in the second half of the season

Cornelius and Brayford cost enough to get four ish decent players.

Ole isn't the finished article, but not many managers who come to this league hit it off first time. How many times has Steve Bruce been relegated? Twice? Yet now everyone rates his as a solid manager. Be nice to give a manager some time to develop than call for his head while then going "AGAINST MODERN FOOTBALL"

Is Ole to blame for Cardiff going down? Yes, more than Malky in a lot of ways. He's clearly naïve - Zaha, Jones, took forever to settle on what was obviously our best team.

Whole thing is a mess, the club needs stability axing a manager is the opposite of that.

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

How were we hard to beat?

I watched us every week and we werent. This isnt about the new regime, this is about Malky failing.....which he clearly did

Malky did not fail. He was undermined to the extent where no manager could operate but even then we were not cut adrift at the bottom of the league. It would be nice if you could admit that Tans plan to replace Malky has failed but I'm not holding my breath.

There was no gamble getting rid of Malky, it had to happen as much to do with off field reasons as on. Malky had lost at least half the dressing room and if in the summer, Malky cant get his out of court settlement he wants and the apparent "truth" comes out, it will change opinion on your saviour no end. Incidentally, I hope that doesnt happen.

Malky doesn't want 'his out of court settlement' - he wants what he is owed under the terms of his contract. If anybody is wanting an out of court settlement it is Tan - so that he can try to renege on the contract, pay off Malky less than is stated in the contract and include a gagging order on Malky - to ensure that none of us know the extent that Tan was meddling.

Malky has tried to settle out of court. Tan has refused.

This summer is going to upset a lot of people on here.

I must have been on holiday when this news hit the press. Can you let me know where I can read about it?

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

How were we hard to beat?

I watched us every week and we werent. This isnt about the new regime, this is about Malky failing.....which he clearly did

Malky did not fail. He was undermined to the extent where no manager could operate but even then we were not cut adrift at the bottom of the league. It would be nice if you could admit that Tans plan to replace Malky has failed but I'm not holding my breath.

There was no gamble getting rid of Malky, it had to happen as much to do with off field reasons as on. Malky had lost at least half the dressing room and if in the summer, Malky cant get his out of court settlement he wants and the apparent "truth" comes out, it will change opinion on your saviour no end. Incidentally, I hope that doesnt happen.

Malky doesn't want 'his out of court settlement' - he wants what he is owed under the terms of his contract. If anybody is wanting an out of court settlement it is Tan - so that he can try to renege on the contract, pay off Malky less than is stated in the contract and include a gagging order on Malky - to ensure that none of us know the extent that Tan was meddling.

Malky has tried to settle out of court. Tan has refused.

This summer is going to upset a lot of people on here.

I must have been on holiday when this news hit the press. Can you let me know where I can read about it?

Isnt in the press, you cant read about it anywhere. Not sure why you think it would be

These are 90% the very same heavily scrutinised players that let Malky and us down at Selhurst Park and Southampton home, it was then I knew we were relegation no matter who would be the manager because of the character of players we have, so much for their vetting.... From that starting 11 at Sunderland Id keep Marshall, Daelhi, Whittingham and Caulker, that's it. I had happily get shot of the rest and as for the subs bench there is only young Declan John Id keep. A massive rebuilding job required, Medel has been the biggest disappointment for me after starting the season so well, in the end he made Cornelious look like a bargain........

These are 90% the very same heavily scrutinised players that let Malky and us down at Selhurst Park and Southampton home, it was then I knew we were relegation no matter who would be the manager because of the character of players we have, so much for their vetting.... From that starting 11 at Sunderland Id keep Marshall, Daelhi, Whittingham and Caulker, that's it. I had happily get shot of the rest and as for the subs bench there is only young Declan John Id keep. A massive rebuilding job required, Medel has been the biggest disappointment for me after starting the season so well, in the end he made Cornelious look like a bargain........

Tony Pulis would have kept Cardiff up, probably have brought Ledley home too. People also forget Malky's dithering in the transfer market. That cost us immensely.

These are 90% the very same heavily scrutinised players that let Malky and us down at Selhurst Park and Southampton home, it was then I knew we were relegation no matter who would be the manager because of the character of players we have, so much for their vetting.... From that starting 11 at Sunderland Id keep Marshall, Daelhi, Whittingham and Caulker, that's it. I had happily get shot of the rest and as for the subs bench there is only young Declan John Id keep. A massive rebuilding job required, Medel has been the biggest disappointment for me after starting the season so well, in the end he made Cornelious look like a bargain........

Tony Pulis would have kept Cardiff up, probably have brought Ledley home too. People also forget Malky's dithering in the transfer market. That cost us immensely.

Yeah I agree with you but then after this season Palace will endure the dire football that Stoke had to put up with, survived yeah but Id rather go down and rebuild and play football the way its suppose to be played. There is still a glimmer yet, who knows.

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

How were we hard to beat?

I watched us every week and we werent. This isnt about the new regime, this is about Malky failing.....which he clearly did

Malky did not fail. He was undermined to the extent where no manager could operate but even then we were not cut adrift at the bottom of the league. It would be nice if you could admit that Tans plan to replace Malky has failed but I'm not holding my breath.

There was no gamble getting rid of Malky, it had to happen as much to do with off field reasons as on. Malky had lost at least half the dressing room and if in the summer, Malky cant get his out of court settlement he wants and the apparent "truth" comes out, it will change opinion on your saviour no end. Incidentally, I hope that doesnt happen.

Malky doesn't want 'his out of court settlement' - he wants what he is owed under the terms of his contract. If anybody is wanting an out of court settlement it is Tan - so that he can try to renege on the contract, pay off Malky less than is stated in the contract and include a gagging order on Malky - to ensure that none of us know the extent that Tan was meddling.

Malky has tried to settle out of court. Tan has refused.

This summer is going to upset a lot of people on here.

I must have been on holiday when this news hit the press. Can you let me know where I can read about it?

Isnt in the press, you cant read about it anywhere. Not sure why you think it would be[/quote]

Simple question. Playing for promotion having built your own squad for the future. Who's responsibility is it to asses if the player material is up for premier challenge? The man who inherit the squad or the one who built it?

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

How were we hard to beat?

I watched us every week and we werent. This isnt about the new regime, this is about Malky failing.....which he clearly did

Malky did not fail. He was undermined to the extent where no manager could operate but even then we were not cut adrift at the bottom of the league. It would be nice if you could admit that Tans plan to replace Malky has failed but I'm not holding my breath.

There was no gamble getting rid of Malky, it had to happen as much to do with off field reasons as on. Malky had lost at least half the dressing room and if in the summer, Malky cant get his out of court settlement he wants and the apparent "truth" comes out, it will change opinion on your saviour no end. Incidentally, I hope that doesnt happen.

Malky doesn't want 'his out of court settlement' - he wants what he is owed under the terms of his contract. If anybody is wanting an out of court settlement it is Tan - so that he can try to renege on the contract, pay off Malky less than is stated in the contract and include a gagging order on Malky - to ensure that none of us know the extent that Tan was meddling.

Malky has tried to settle out of court. Tan has refused.

This summer is going to upset a lot of people on here.

Why tan not paying malky should upset anyone on here is beyond me. its nothing to do with us

Why tan not paying malky should upset anyone on here is beyond me. its nothing to do with us[/quote]


^^^^^^ exactly

So many things have gone wrong this season , 1st time in the Premier everyone needed to be together and strong us against the world, The Owner, Manager, players and the Fans yet its been a total f*cking shambles.
from the moment they pissed off the fans with the Shitty Red Shirt with a different shade of Red shorts FFS great start.
The Tan/Malky fallout
The Tan/Fans fallout
its effected the players then BOOM
Ole arrives wasted 2/3 months trying to figure out his best team and how to play and yet even now he still dont f*cking know.

Tan your a C**T its mainly on you and your puppet helpers.
where a f*cking laughing stock.
Yes Malky bought some shite players but im convinced we would have been 4/5 points better off and staying up.

Annis, you continually lay the blame for this shambles at the feet of everyone apart from malky, i can only assume you are doing it for the sake of hits on your forum??? Tan must take the major share of the blame due to his interfering with team affairs and his personal vendetta with malky that started this fiasco. Ole also has to take his fair share of blame (results suggest so) he doesn't seem to know is best team or tactics in most games, (why he decided to take over at all baffles me, he must be out of his mind) he was never ever going to have enough time to put things right, he took over the day the transfer window opened, so basically he had four weeks to get to know the squad and to bring in new players with a budget of £6 million, as i have already said, he must be out of his mind. Now as far as your hero (malky) he knew throughout the whole of last season that our two full backs were never going to be good enough for the premiership, he also knew that we needed two premiership quality centre backs and a creative midfield player, on top of that a blind man could see we needed at least one striker that could guarantee us between 12-15 goals in the premiership, he was given almost £50 million to put this in place and he made an absolute arse of it, blowing the money on players either not good enough or vastly over priced, as for not being in the bottom three under him we were one point above with away trips to arsenal, man city and man utd to come, we had the second worse defensive record under malky (as of now) and our players got a nose bleed if they entered the opponents half, why did he not pick craig noone for the first four months of the season??? why didn't he bring in a left back???? why buy brayford and never play him??? as for the Cornelious fiasco, well it's been done and dusted about that donkey. As i said at the start, they all have to take some blame (including most of them bottlers on the pitch) an that includes malky, to me he should have gone the same time as moody so the new manager would have had far more time to prepare for the opening of the transfer window.

Young managers don't always have plain sailing but they may still come good. Worth remembering that Brendan Rodgers did badly in his early appointment at Reading and Martinez got Wigan relegated. Football fans are fickle and impatient, they want to sack managers every 4 months if things don't go according to plan as if there isn't enough turmoil already at the club. Imo Malky should never been sacked in the middle of the season and for the same reason i don't think OGS should be sacked after working under less then ideal conditions for 3-4 months. Give the man a preseason and let him put his stamp on the team if that doesn't work then its not meant to be.

Why can't we blame others? Malky's mess in the transfer window has carried on into Ole's job and he's been left to take the wrath of Mackay's failings.
Moody's spygate
Tan being a lunatic owner.

Ole deserves some blame but not all of it. Sorry but you are INCREDIBLY two faced Annis

STOP blaming Malky..............just like some players are ok in championship but clearly nowhere near good enough for the prem, so are some managers, we all knew he was a one dimension, one trick pony, TAN should never have allowed him the budget.....either have had the balls to move him on there and then, or given him limited funds to prove himself.....its not Malys fault he isnt very good, anymore than its Taylors fault that he isnt Roberto Carlos..

I think he should be given the chance.

If things aren't going well after 10/15 games in the Championship then talk about this then.

I still believe he's the right man for the job.

Steely toughness under Malky??

2nd worse defensive record says different

You can try and dispute this as much as you want but I would rather listen to the various pundits who agree with this view opposed to some keyboard warrior who has a skewed perspective. Again I did not see you slating Malky's team when we won against man city.

Pundits side with any manager when they are sacked. Look at Adkins when he got sacked from Southampton. Thing is, you claim this steely toughness, it was a myth as we had 2nd worse defensive record under Malky. We still have 2nd worse defensive record under Ole. Nothing has changed.

Wrong again. The pundits were all telling us that we were hard to beat from the start ov the season and not as you suggest in sympathy of Malky's sacking. Like I said you pour scorn on Malkyn now yet you did not do this when we beat Man City. Tans plan to replace Malky with a manager who was going to dazzle us has failed miserably and it's about time you had the decency to admit it.

gary neville had a completely different attitude after the man city game and although he loved the result and our passion he maintained that we could only keep that work rate up for a certain amount of games before fatigue and burn out set in.
as far as i could see he called it right as we were fading badly in our last games under malky and defending from our eighteen yard line for at least the last 15 minutes of games.
we had a non existant stike force which allowed teams to push us right back up the pitch during games hence the turner hoofball coming more prevelant during games.
we have never competed in this league except for the first few games where we were fresh and as fit as the other sides.
once teams worked out our only threat was from set pieces we were done for.

Can we keep to this topic and not try and change it or blame others Cheers
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" When it really mattered "

When the games that really mattered under Ole we got smashed,embarrassed and hammered and before you say here we go another shot at Ole, the facts don't lie.

In such a short space of time.

Can we all be honest, these were the big games.

Hull City home 4 nil loss
Swansea away 3 nil loss
Crystal Palace home 3 nil loss
Sunderland away 4 nil loss.

Sorry but there can't be any excuses for this.

What worries me is that Ole was naive and his inexperience as a manager in the Premier League, but at least he had some experience of it as a player,yet he knows nothing about the Championship.

Do you honestly feel Ole will bring us straight back up as thanks to our £130 mill debt created by Vincent Tan we have to come straight back up?

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So this thread is ok to post in aslong as we blame ole and nobody else

Jinks, this topic is about Ole and his matches, no one else correct, we have debated Malky a 1,000 times. Ole is our current manager and has brought in his own back room staff and 7 new players.

Ole has to start taking responsibility for his results and if he had kept us up he would of taken the applause.

Surely even u can admit Ole's results have been abysmal and yesterday to loose 4 nil to the bottom club to send us bottom is down to Ole, no one else.