StanQpr was right after all!

But I can remember you saying Malky out...Malky in and so on.They are not the words or thoughts of a man who doesn't care.

Because the football was crap and dire to watch and even you know that. I wanted an entire change of tact and philosophy and to play the game the way I believe it should be played. It had more to do with entertainment and style than just wanting to win, win, win. If I wanted to win, win, win I'd go support Man City or someone and my life would be brilliant and I'd enjoy most games because they win most games.

I didnt say I would prefer it Roathy, only you said that I said that.

I didn't say that, I asked if that was the case as it certainly sounded like it..... You didn't answer though.

But if you are saying you prefer the Prem then thats ok then.

As long as its OK with you Roathy, im happy

Look forward to the championship by all means, but dont think for a second that anyone will believe you if you are saying you wouldn't have taken a win today and subsequent survival.

Think what you want. Tell me what's good about struggling in the Premier League or knowing you'll only ever compete mid table or Europa League at the most? No one of serious credibility is going to invest in you and you haven't got the funds to compete. At the best all you can do is finish mid table, win the cups and qualify for the Europa League. You and us and other clubs our size have no chance of competing at the top which makes it a shit league IMO. In the Championship even rubbish teams tipped for relegation like Burnley can turn it all on its head. Thats the magic of the Championship IMO and which is why it appeals to me.

Why do you think what appeals to you appeals to everyone else?

What are you talking about? We are the most profitable team in the Premier League. The sky is the limit. Things get built slowly and not the Cardiff boom or bust premise.

We will bank £25m this year, keep doing that for a decade and we have a quarter of a billion.

Im amazed Cardiff fans are still bleating on about investors. We have got from 24th in div 3 to being the most profitable club in the Premier League with no investors.

He was stating how happy he was last week that norwich have a hard run-in and how its making him feel better.

Whats your point idiot? Staying up gives financial stability. Doesn't mean its entertaining or competitive. From a football point of view the Championship is better IMO. The only attraction of the PL is the money for stability, something we've been craving for years.

What are you talking about?

Dream on sunshine. You will never compete for the PL title and if you do win it i'll buy you a Swansea season ticket.

SKY is the limit.

You right, they are. They've helped kill the top level of the game in the UK IMO.

We will bank £25m this year, keep doing that for a decade and we have a quarter of a billion.

Sod all when the top clubs spend that in a transfer window. You will never compete against owners of clubs like Abramovich, Mansour, etc. You're living away with the fairies.

He was stating how happy he was last week that norwich have a hard run-in and how its making him feel better.

Whats your point idiot? Staying up gives financial stability. Doesn't mean its entertaining or competitive. From a football point of view the Championship is better IMO. The only attraction of the PL is the money for stability, something we've been craving for years.

Yet you are going to have record liability this year.

What are you talking about?

Dream on sunshine. You will never compete for the PL title and if you do win it i'll buy you a Swansea season ticket.

we may well do one day. Not in the near future but Rome wasnt built in a day. The point is you have to be in it to win it.

SKY is the limit.

You right, they are. They've helped kill the top level of the game in the UK IMO.

yet they have made us one of the richest clubs in the world.

We will bank £25m this year, keep doing that for a decade and we have a quarter of a billion.

Sod all when the top clubs spend that in a transfer window. You will never compete against owners of clubs like Abramovich, Mansour, etc. You're living away with the fairies.

who has spent £250m in a transfer window?

If you'd have stayed up you wouldn't be saying it was rubbish,would you? It would be mental as a football fan to say something like that.

Dont mind either way. If we stay up its more money. If we go down its better entertainment imo. Win win either way for me regardless. I'd be happy to be a yoyo club like Reading.

You all celebrated wildly down the Bay when you got promoted with 10's of thousands turning up.I guess you wasn't one of them then?

I was at uni so no I wasn't in Cardiff at the time. Hope this clears it up. I dont see the Premier League as nothing more than the football equivalent of our capitalist economic system. Its an exact football clone of it and proof of that was Man City's owner throwing money at the cause and them finally competing and winning the league whereas clubs like Burnley can compete in the Championship.

I honestly wouldn't mind being a yoyo club....of course, without Tan around.

But I can remember you saying Malky out...Malky in and so on.They are not the words or thoughts of a man who doesn't care.If I could be bothered i could pull up 10's of threads where you were clearly upset or elated over your Premier League results.

You're upset atm and I understand but to say you don't care and would prefer the Championship anyway is silly.When the dust settles I'm sure you'll see more sense.

He was stating how happy he was last week that norwich have a hard run-in and how its making him feel better.

I like James but he doesn't half go through spells of talking bollocks.

Im so happy Norwich's fixture list is horrid otherwise I'd be feeling a lot worse now. I can see them getting 2 points from the 12 on offer with the 2 coming from draws vs United and Arsenal. I can see us and Fulham both getting 4 points and Sunderland 6 from their remaining 15 on offer.

That would leave:

Norwich - 34 points
Cardiff - 34 points
Fulham - 34 points
Sunderland - 32 points

As it stands on goal difference we'd go down but we have winnable games to turn that around whereas hopefully Norwich take a pasting or two starting off against Liverpool tomorrow. I hope Suarez puts 10 on them tomorrow to swing things in our favour. Thankfully, on the last day of the season Norwich have Arsenal and we have Chelsea so we should both expecting losses there and no massive goal difference swing. Our goal difference is currently 8 better than Fulham's.

What are you talking about?

Dream on sunshine. You will never compete for the PL title and if you do win it i'll buy you a Swansea season ticket.

SKY is the limit.

You right, they are. They've helped kill the top level of the game in the UK IMO.

We will bank £25m this year, keep doing that for a decade and we have a quarter of a billion.

Sod all when the top clubs spend that in a transfer window. You will never compete against owners of clubs like Abramovich, Mansour, etc. You're living away with the fairies.

that figure depends on you keeping same spending levels for next 10yrs do you honestly believe you can do that and stay in premier?? surely even in your imaginary world that is not possible taking in account of wage rises, transfer fees, ect ect or do these factors not matter?

who has spent £250m in a transfer window?

Where did I say £250m or are you just taking the high end figure to support your argument Roathie? You said £25m and £250m and I said top teams spend that in one transfer window. City have spent £100m + themselves in a transfer window.

You are beyond deluded if you think you can compete and maybe you should change your white Swansea shirt for a white jacket.

that figure depends on you keeping same spending levels for next 10yrs do you honestly believe you can do that and stay in premier?? surely even in your imaginary world that is not possible taking in account of wage rises, transfer fees, ect ect or do these factors not matter?

Yes I do.

Wages rise when we want them to rise. Transfer fees rise when we want them to rise.

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Like where he forgot to mention this thread?

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So you wanted to stay up, then wanted to go down (or change the Prem into the MLS ), then wanted to stay up.... And now happy you are down.

Only James Barnett.

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Like where he forgot to mention this thread?

http://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic ... d#p1397158

And not 1 reply to it Says it all.Wrap it in James you're making yourself look a bigger idiot that anyone ever thought.

So you wanted to stay up, then wanted to go down (or change the Prem into the MLS ), then wanted to stay up.... And now happy you are down.

The only good thing about the Premier League is the money. You are beyond deluded if you think you can compete. Tell me another team thats come up that has done it or a club that hasn't had a serious investor. Please, enlighten me.

Manchester United? Top club.
Arsenal? Top club.
Man City? Serious investor.
Chelsea? Investor and pretty big club.
Liverpool? top club.
Blackburn? spent loads in the season they won it.

Go on Roathie, enlighten me. You have an answer for everything.

And not 1 reply to it Says it all.Wrap it in James you're making yourself look a bigger idiot that anyone ever thought.

So now you go on to attack the poster rather than the content. Nice strawman logic and ad hominems.

So you wanted to stay up, then wanted to go down (or change the Prem into the MLS ), then wanted to stay up.... And now happy you are down.

The only good thing about the Premier League is the money. You are beyond deluded if you think you can compete. Tell me another team thats come up that has done it or a club that hasn't had a serious investor. Please, enlighten me.

Manchester United? Top club.
Arsenal? Top club.
Man City? Serious investor.
Chelsea? Investor and pretty big club.
Liverpool? top club.
Blackburn? spent loads in the season they won it.

Go on Roathie, enlighten me. You have an answer for everything.

We have competed. We finished 9th last year. 5 places off the champions league.

We have competed. We finished 9th last year. 5 places off the champions league.

You'll never compete at the top. Its boring because of it.

Do you honestly believe you'll compete at the top? If you do you are deluded beyond belief which is quite surprising as I had you down as a realist. As a realist I know Cardiff City will never compete unless a big spending investor like Abramovich comes on board.

Name one other club thats broken the mould and competed at the top. Do it Roathie. Go on. If you are happy to settle for mid table premier league then fair enough but I find that beyond boring.

that figure depends on you keeping same spending levels for next 10yrs do you honestly believe you can do that and stay in premier?? surely even in your imaginary world that is not possible taking in account of wage rises, transfer fees, ect ect or do these factors not matter?

Yes I do.?

Wages rise when we want them to rise. Transfer fees rise when we want them to rise.

and you think you can stay in premier on that basis? what quality player will come to you when u offer peanuts compared to other clubs? and what quality player is available for peanuts? you have been lucky up to now with players bought and you think you will be lucky for next ten years?

that figure depends on you keeping same spending levels for next 10yrs do you honestly believe you can do that and stay in premier?? surely even in your imaginary world that is not possible taking in account of wage rises, transfer fees, ect ect or do these factors not matter?

Yes I do.?

Wages rise when we want them to rise. Transfer fees rise when we want them to rise.

and you think you can stay in premier on that basis? what quality player will come to you when u offer peanuts compared to other clubs? and what quality player is available for peanuts? you have been lucky up to know and you think yo will be lucky for next ten years?

Well we have, no reason to think it wont continue.

Profits are increasing every year and so is the quality of the squad.

We don't have to buy players for peanuts to make hefty profits. We have signed Shelvey and Bony for £18m combined this year and will still bank £20m +

How is that lucky?

that figure depends on you keeping same spending levels for next 10yrs do you honestly believe you can do that and stay in premier?? surely even in your imaginary world that is not possible taking in account of wage rises, transfer fees, ect ect or do these factors not matter?

Yes I do.?

Wages rise when we want them to rise. Transfer fees rise when we want them to rise.

and you think you can stay in premier on that basis? what quality player will come to you when u offer peanuts compared to other clubs? and what quality player is available for peanuts? you have been lucky up to now with players bought and you think you will be lucky for next ten years?

They will only ever be a mid table club and if he thinks they'll compete at the top he's deluded. I find that prospect beyond boring and would rather the excitement of yoyoing between divisions. Id rather the highs and lows than just boring mid table finishes.

And not 1 reply to it Says it all.Wrap it in James you're making yourself look a bigger idiot that anyone ever thought.

So now you go on to attack the poster rather than the content. Nice strawman logic and ad hominems.

It was a piss poor thread which nobody agreed with hence the zero comments and a waste of your time and anyone else who bothered to read the bile.Roathie's just posted your real sentiments regarding the way you REALLY feel.Stop digging man,it's become more than embarrassing for you.

And not 1 reply to it Says it all.Wrap it in James you're making yourself look a bigger idiot that anyone ever thought.

So now you go on to attack the poster rather than the content. Nice strawman logic and ad hominems.

It was a piss poor thread which nobody agreed with hence the zero comments and a waste of your time and anyone else who bothered to read the bile.Roathie's just posted your real sentiments regarding the way you REALLY feel.Stop digging man,it's become more than embarrassing for you.

Yet people are commenting on it now and one person agreed with. Okay.

Its only piss poor in your eyes because you disagree with it and thus think everyone has to agree with you because you're narrow minded. They dont. Get over yourself dear.

I'd be more than happy to be a mid table side in the PL for the next 25 years.

We have competed. We finished 9th last year. 5 places off the champions league.

You'll never compete at the top. Its boring because of it.

Do you honestly believe you'll compete at the top? If you do you are deluded beyond belief which is quite surprising as I had you down as a realist. As a realist I know Cardiff City will never compete unless a big spending investor like Abramovich comes on board.

Name one other club thats broken the mould and competed at the top. Do it Roathie. Go on. If you are happy to settle for mid table premier league then fair enough but I find that beyond boring.

Im amazed you are not listening to what im saying.

£25m banked a year, £250m in 10 years.... Why do we need an investor?

If you find building and improving the side to be the best it can be while testing itself against the best boring.... Then I cannot imagine what getting promotion from the second tier and then relegation the year after ad infinitum does.

that figure depends on you keeping same spending levels for next 10yrs do you honestly believe you can do that and stay in premier?? surely even in your imaginary world that is not possible taking in account of wage rises, transfer fees, ect ect or do these factors not matter?

Yes I do.?

Wages rise when we want them to rise. Transfer fees rise when we want them to rise.

and you think you can stay in premier on that basis? what quality player will come to you when u offer peanuts compared to other clubs? and what quality player is available for peanuts? you have been lucky up to now with players bought and you think you will be lucky for next ten years?

They will only ever be a mid table club and if he thinks they'll compete at the top he's deluded. I find that prospect beyond boring and would rather the excitement of yoyoing between divisions. Id rather the highs and lows than just boring mid table finishes.

its fact that he thinks he is owner of club and what he says is whats going to happen, thats what i dont understand? he sees the future as if its going to happen in reality!

Im amazed you are not listening to what im saying.

£25m banked a year, £250m in 10 years.... Why do we need an investor?

No I am listening. £250m is nothing in terms of the top of the PL. Man City have spent half that in a transfer window. In 10 years they'll be spending more. Its called inflation which im sure you're more than aware of being a businessman.

If you find building and improving the side to be the best it can be while testing itself against the best boring.... Then I cannot imagine what getting promotion from the second tier and then relegation the year after ad infinitum does.

The roller coaster is the fun. Experiencing the lows is what makes the highs better IMO.

And not 1 reply to it Says it all.Wrap it in James you're making yourself look a bigger idiot that anyone ever thought.

So now you go on to attack the poster rather than the content. Nice strawman logic and ad hominems.

It was a piss poor thread which nobody agreed with hence the zero comments and a waste of your time and anyone else who bothered to read the bile.Roathie's just posted your real sentiments regarding the way you REALLY feel.Stop digging man,it's become more than embarrassing for you.

Yet people are commenting on it now and one person agreed with. Okay.

Its only piss poor in your eyes because you disagree with it and thus think everyone has to agree with you because you're narrow minded. They dont. Get over yourself dear.

Nobody is agreeing with you on it at all you bewt.One Cardiff fan does to a point but then disagrees.Stop it man my ribs are killing me here

Nobody is agreeing with you on it at all you bewt.One Cardiff fan does to a point but then disagrees.Stop it man my ribs are killing me here

..and the straw man logic continues. We must all think the same way as the mighty Roathie and 6Bysedd. Something tells me you both wouldn't be this arrogant or smarmy in person. Interesting thought. Why do you try to force your viewpoints on others and why cant you accept others like myself prefer the rollercoaster side of football, the lows and the highs, as opposed to just sitting mid table in the PL?

If my club was just sitting mid table in the PL I would be beyond bored.

Nobody is agreeing with you on it at all you bewt.One Cardiff fan does to a point but then disagrees.Stop it man my ribs are killing me here

..and the straw man logic continues. We must all think the same way as the mighty Roathie and 6Bysedd. Something tells me you both wouldn't be this arrogant or smarmy in person. Interesting thought. Why do you try to force your viewpoints on others and why cant you accept others like myself prefer the rollercoaster side of football, the lows and the highs, as opposed to just sitting mid table in the PL?

If my club was just sitting mid table in the PL I would be beyond bored.

Do you not think that Swansea has had a rollercoaster of a season then?