' Vincent Tan here's your 0% '

Roath anyone with half a brain knows your game you f*cking rat! You want people to bite and turn on the club for the last few games cos your shitty little club are suddenly looking at the drop along with us.

I honestly don't know how you could be so bitter to hang around a rival forum day and night, you really are a total kunt

100% agree with this. He is a pathetic little man living in a fantasy world.

Ive not heard Tan out chnts for the 90 mins once, home or away. In fact, probably not even for a collective 10 mins of the game.

Why do the ones who do "anti tan stuff" away, not bother at home?

You seem to want Tan out more than any of us fans. Wonder why? My guess is your worried in case he drives the club forward to much higher levels. Have you thought that there are possibly 25.000 who dont want Tan out. The majority of them want us back in blue.from where l stand the pro blue activists are doing a sterling job. Loads of blue, Chants without threats,and banter without anger. Why criticise, blue backTan in and a force in the best league in the world. Tan will come around dont worry
He may drop bollocks but doesnt do fail. More to the point mind your f..ing business f..ck all todo with you.

Most fans I speak to, don't want Tan out.
They want him to change his mind over the obvious.

Maybe you need to move in different circles

Roath anyone with half a brain knows your game you f*cking rat! You want people to bite and turn on the club for the last few games cos your shitty little club are suddenly looking at the drop along with us.

I honestly don't know how you could be so bitter to hang around a rival forum day and night, you really are a total kunt

The best thing to do with the piece of dog dirt (roathie) is to put him on ignore like i have, that way nobody is then feeding his massive ego.

Ive not heard Tan out chnts for the 90 mins once, home or away. In fact, probably not even for a collective 10 mins of the game.

Why do the ones who do "anti tan stuff" away, not bother at home?

You seem to want Tan out more than any of us fans. Wonder why? My guess is your worried in case he drives the club forward to much higher levels. Have you thought that there are possibly 25.000 who dont want Tan out. The majority of them want us back in blue.from where l stand the pro blue activists are doing a sterling job. Loads of blue, Chants without threats,and banter without anger. Why criticise, blue backTan in and a force in the best league in the world. Tan will come around dont worry
He may drop bollocks but doesnt do fail. More to the point mind your f..ing business f..ck all todo with you.

Got agree with this.

Ive not heard Tan out chnts for the 90 mins once, home or away. In fact, probably not even for a collective 10 mins of the game.

Why do the ones who do "anti tan stuff" away, not bother at home?

You seem to want Tan out more than any of us fans. Wonder why? My guess is your worried in case he drives the club forward to much higher levels. Have you thought that there are possibly 25.000 who dont want Tan out. The majority of them want us back in blue.from where l stand the pro blue activists are doing a sterling job. Loads of blue, Chants without threats,and banter without anger. Why criticise, blue backTan in and a force in the best league in the world. Tan will come around dont worry
He may drop bollocks but doesnt do fail. More to the point mind your f..ing business f..ck all todo with you.

Ive been telling you this since he took over.

1. What levels are you hoping he drives you to? You are £100m in debt and about to embark on another season in the Championship.

2. I have very much considered the majority dont want Tan out - thats kind of my point is it not? You (collectively) complain about the rebrand, complain about Tan's ethos, complain about sackings of personnel.... Yet when it boils down to it, the club comes a distant second in the fans eyes.

3. You are in our league, it has everything to do with me. The likes of you and QPR are everything that is wrong woth football - considering it is your club that the parastie is sucking on you would have thought that the fams of the clubs in question would be the first on the front line - amazingly you are the last

4. What do I have to be worried about? We are the most profitable club in the Premier League, we own a large stake in our own club, ran by fans of the club, we are debt free, have an excellent squad, first class training facilities, just embarked on a successful European campaign and are going from strength to strength.

Ive not heard Tan out chnts for the 90 mins once, home or away. In fact, probably not even for a collective 10 mins of the game.

Why do the ones who do "anti tan stuff" away, not bother at home?

You seem to want Tan out more than any of us fans. Wonder why? My guess is your worried in case he drives the club forward to much higher levels. Have you thought that there are possibly 25.000 who dont want Tan out. The majority of them want us back in blue.from where l stand the pro blue activists are doing a sterling job. Loads of blue, Chants without threats,and banter without anger. Why criticise, blue backTan in and a force in the best league in the world. Tan will come around dont worry
He may drop bollocks but doesnt do fail. More to the point mind your f..ing business f..ck all todo with you.

Ive been telling you this since he took over.

1. What levels are you hoping he drives you to? You are £100m in debt and about to embark on another season in the Championship.

2. I have very much considered the majority dont want Tan out - thats kind of my point is it not? You (collectively) complain about the rebrand, complain about Tan's ethos, complain about sackings of personnel.... Yet when it boils down to it, the club comes a distant second in the fans eyes.

3. You are in our league, it has everything to do with me. The likes of you and QPR are everything that is wrong woth football - considering it is your club that the parastie is sucking on you would have thought that the fams of the clubs in question would be the first on the front line - amazingly you are the last

4. What do I have to be worried about? We are the most profitable club in the Premier League, we own a large stake in our own club, ran by fans of the club, we are debt free, have an excellent squad, first class training facilities, just embarked on a successful European campaign and are going from strength to strength.

Its almost like you are a whipping boy to get more numbers behind Tan Out You are a business man, if it was your money, would you turn your loans to equity at this moment? No? Why?

Ive not heard Tan out chnts for the 90 mins once, home or away. In fact, probably not even for a collective 10 mins of the game.

Why do the ones who do "anti tan stuff" away, not bother at home?

You seem to want Tan out more than any of us fans. Wonder why? My guess is your worried in case he drives the club forward to much higher levels. Have you thought that there are possibly 25.000 who dont want Tan out. The majority of them want us back in blue.from where l stand the pro blue activists are doing a sterling job. Loads of blue, Chants without threats,and banter without anger. Why criticise, blue backTan in and a force in the best league in the world. Tan will come around dont worry
He may drop bollocks but doesnt do fail. More to the point mind your f..ing business f..ck all todo with you.

Ive been telling you this since he took over.

1. What levels are you hoping he drives you to? You are £100m in debt and about to embark on another season in the Championship.

2. I have very much considered the majority dont want Tan out - thats kind of my point is it not? You (collectively) complain about the rebrand, complain about Tan's ethos, complain about sackings of personnel.... Yet when it boils down to it, the club comes a distant second in the fans eyes.

3. You are in our league, it has everything to do with me. The likes of you and QPR are everything that is wrong woth football - considering it is your club that the parastie is sucking on you would have thought that the fams of the clubs in question would be the first on the front line - amazingly you are the last

4. What do I have to be worried about? We are the most profitable club in the Premier League, we own a large stake in our own club, ran by fans of the club, we are debt free, have an excellent squad, first class training facilities, just embarked on a successful European campaign and are going from strength to strength.

Its almost like you are a whipping boy to get more numbers behind Tan Out You are a business man, if it was your money, would you turn your loans to equity at this moment? No? Why?

Ive always spoken up for what is right. Always.

If I was Tan I would never turn debt to equity. Again it is something which I said when it first came about and this season you have seen that come to fruition. "When the Langston issue is sorted"..... "Okay, when the malky issue is sorted".... It makes no sense to do it. Partial debt to equity? Sure. Full? Not a chance. Debt to equity will wipe maybe £8m off your total debt.

His reign is ridiculously bad for Cardiff. The worst thing is that everybody knows it but arent shameless enough to say they are supporting it so have mini pointless "protests" to tap eachother on the back and say "we tried".... While going back to jumping uo and down and cheering.

You want your club back then get some bollocks and take it back, if not then stop crowing about Tan and the rebrand and accept all the shit coming your way. Simple as that.

Proud to be blue!

Ive not heard Tan out chnts for the 90 mins once, home or away. In fact, probably not even for a collective 10 mins of the game.

Why do the ones who do "anti tan stuff" away, not bother at home?

You seem to want Tan out more than any of us fans. Wonder why? My guess is your worried in case he drives the club forward to much higher levels. Have you thought that there are possibly 25.000 who dont want Tan out. The majority of them want us back in blue.from where l stand the pro blue activists are doing a sterling job. Loads of blue, Chants without threats,and banter without anger. Why criticise, blue backTan in and a force in the best league in the world. Tan will come around dont worry
He may drop bollocks but doesnt do fail. More to the point mind your f..ing business f..ck all todo with you.

Ive been telling you this since he took over.

1. What levels are you hoping he drives you to? You are £100m in debt and about to embark on another season in the Championship.

2. I have very much considered the majority dont want Tan out - thats kind of my point is it not? You (collectively) complain about the rebrand, complain about Tan's ethos, complain about sackings of personnel.... Yet when it boils down to it, the club comes a distant second in the fans eyes.

3. You are in our league, it has everything to do with me. The likes of you and QPR are everything that is wrong woth football - considering it is your club that the parastie is sucking on you would have thought that the fams of the clubs in question would be the first on the front line - amazingly you are the last

4. What do I have to be worried about? We are the most profitable club in the Premier League, we own a large stake in our own club, ran by fans of the club, we are debt free, have an excellent squad, first class training facilities, just embarked on a successful European campaign and are going from strength to strength.

Its almost like you are a whipping boy to get more numbers behind Tan Out You are a business man, if it was your money, would you turn your loans to equity at this moment? No? Why?

Ive always spoken up for what is right. Always.

If I was Tan I would never turn debt to equity. Again it is something which I said when it first came about and this season you have seen that come to fruition. "When the Langston issue is sorted"..... "Okay, when the malky issue is sorted".... It makes no sense to do it. Partial debt to equity? Sure. Full? Not a chance. Debt to equity will wipe maybe £8m off your total debt.

His reign is ridiculously bad for Cardiff. The worst thing is that everybody knows it but arent shameless enough to say they are supporting it so have mini pointless "protests" to tap eachother on the back and say "we tried".... While going back to jumping uo and down and cheering.

You want your club back then get some bollocks and take it back, if not then stop crowing about Tan and the rebrand and accept all the shit coming your way. Simple as that.

You are a sneaky focker arent you There is nothing but speculation to say he will not turn his loans. But the question remains,
would you turn the loans now, or would you wait? It has nothing to do with Milkys trial, we both now that

Ive answered that. You have appealed to my business brain so ive given you the answer.

I wouldnt EVER do debt to equity, and neither will he. Hw owns 90% of the club so tell me one reason why he will essentially buy the other 10% for £100m which of course values the business at £1 billion pro rata

Its pure nonsense and the suggestion is ludicrous, he is playing you all for fools and you are lapping it up. If the club is worth £80m then the going rate for the final 10% is around £8m. Its like embarking on buying a house to make a profit and then buying a £80,000 house for £1 million.

Ridiculous.

He will buy the other 10% for around £8m - £10m and the club will still owe him close to £100m.

Bookmark it if you like.

Ive answered that. You have appealed to my business brain so ive given you the answer.

I wouldnt EVER do debt to equity, and neither will he. Hw owns 90% of the club so tell me one reason why he will essentially buy the other 10% for £100m which of course values the business at £1 billion pro rata

Its pure nonsense and the suggestion is ludicrous, he is playing you all for fools and you are lapping it up. If the club is worth £80m then the going rate for the final 10% is around £8m. Its like embarking on buying a house to make a profit and then buying a £80,000 house for £1 million.

Ridiculous.

He will buy the other 10% for around £8m - £10m and the club will still owe him close to £100m.

Bookmark it if you like.

Its like when i was 12 and told my mate not going into my rom, he did, and held him back. We spent the next half hour arguing about why i held his precious shirt So you really dont understand the economics of it? Plain text. IF YOU WHERE COMMITTED TO TURN YOUR LOANS, would you do so now, or would you wait, and why? How could you actually turn this to a profit and raise the value of the club at the same time? What is ridiculous is you actually believe Tan would make his money from loans. Every empirical evidence suggest otherwise with his creating of values through stock market. Whipping boy, i guess we leave it there, dont want to spend time arguing about a shirt..

Ive answered that. You have appealed to my business brain so ive given you the answer.

I wouldnt EVER do debt to equity, and neither will he. Hw owns 90% of the club so tell me one reason why he will essentially buy the other 10% for £100m which of course values the business at £1 billion pro rata

Its pure nonsense and the suggestion is ludicrous, he is playing you all for fools and you are lapping it up. If the club is worth £80m then the going rate for the final 10% is around £8m. Its like embarking on buying a house to make a profit and then buying a £80,000 house for £1 million.

Ridiculous.

He will buy the other 10% for around £8m - £10m and the club will still owe him close to £100m.

Bookmark it if you like.

Its like when i was 12 and told my mate not going into my rom, he did, and held him back. We spent the next half hour arguing about why i held his precious shirt So you really dont understand the economics of it? Plain text. IF YOU WHERE COMMITTED TO TURN YOUR LOANS, would you do so now, or would you wait, and why? How could you actually turn this to a profit and raise the value of the club at the same time? What is ridiculous is you actually believe Tan would make his money from loans. Every empirical evidence suggest otherwise with his creating of values through stock market. Whipping boy, i guess we leave it there, dont want to spend time arguing about a shirt..

That makes no sense.

He is not commited to turn his loans to equity and it is not his business plan to make profit from his loans. I assumed you actually had a grasp of the situation. Ill break it down.

Tan (on the advice of TG) invested £6m in a club that was in financial hardship but was on the verge of the Prem, an excellent return if successful - it wasnt and he ended up with a £6m white elephant on his hands.

The club was losing money hand over fist (£1m a month). He was faced with a situation, to step back, put a lock on his wallet and kiss goodbye to his £6m (any liquidation would see others paid before him to the point there wouldnt be anything left in the pot) or cover the defecit safe in the knowledge that heavy investment usually gains promotion.

He wanted Langston sorted ASAP because the loans he was giving to cover the monthly shortfall were not secured in the sense that if the club folded the money raised would go to Langston and not him. Hence why he made this a priority.

He covered the defecit and spent £12m on playing staff to ensure promotion. He then saw an opportunity commercially to appeal to the asian market to ensure he can offload the club and make some profit.

He was about £40m out of pocket upon promotion which gave him then £50-£60m to play with to secure the clubs status in which he would then have an option to sell up, float the club (would never be a feasible option imo) or invest minimally and bank profits.

However this season was a disaster and it looks as if you are about to be relegated. His debt will only get to the levels in which the assets cover, which is why it is always around the £80m - £100m mark. His loans are secured gambles, if they come off he will be in profit from another year of sky money, if they fails he can pay himself back from selling club assets.

So it would make sense for him to buy the remaining 10% but he will do it at market value (£8m region) and not give away an extra £90m for no reason what so ever.

And that is the crux of it.

Ive answered that. You have appealed to my business brain so ive given you the answer.

I wouldnt EVER do debt to equity, and neither will he. Hw owns 90% of the club so tell me one reason why he will essentially buy the other 10% for £100m which of course values the business at £1 billion pro rata

Its pure nonsense and the suggestion is ludicrous, he is playing you all for fools and you are lapping it up. If the club is worth £80m then the going rate for the final 10% is around £8m. Its like embarking on buying a house to make a profit and then buying a £80,000 house for £1 million.

Ridiculous.

He will buy the other 10% for around £8m - £10m and the club will still owe him close to £100m.

Bookmark it if you like.

Its like when i was 12 and told my mate not going into my rom, he did, and held him back. We spent the next half hour arguing about why i held his precious shirt So you really dont understand the economics of it? Plain text. IF YOU WHERE COMMITTED TO TURN YOUR LOANS, would you do so now, or would you wait, and why? How could you actually turn this to a profit and raise the value of the club at the same time? What is ridiculous is you actually believe Tan would make his money from loans. Every empirical evidence suggest otherwise with his creating of values through stock market. Whipping boy, i guess we leave it there, dont want to spend time arguing about a shirt..

That makes no sense.

He is not commited to turn his loans to equity and it is not his business plan to make profit from his loans. I assumed you actually had a grasp of the situation. Ill break it down.

Tan (on the advice of TG) invested £6m in a club that was in financial hardship but was on the verge of the Prem, an excellent return if successful - it wasnt and he ended up with a £6m white elephant on his hands.

The club was losing money hand over fist (£1m a month). He was faced with a situation, to step back, put a lock on his wallet and kiss goodbye to his £6m (any liquidation would see others paid before him to the point there wouldnt be anything left in the pot) or cover the defecit safe in the knowledge that heavy investment usually gains promotion.

He wanted Langston sorted ASAP because the loans he was giving to cover the monthly shortfall were not secured in the sense that if the club folded the money raised would go to Langston and not him. Hence why he made this a priority.

He covered the defecit and spent £12m on playing staff to ensure promotion. He then saw an opportunity commercially to appeal to the asian market to ensure he can offload the club and make some profit.

He was about £40m out of pocket upon promotion which gave him then £50-£60m to play with to secure the clubs status in which he would then have an option to sell up, float the club (would never be a feasible option imo) or invest minimally and bank profits.

However this season was a disaster and it looks as if you are about to be relegated. His debt will only get to the levels in which the assets cover, which is why it is always around the £80m - £100m mark. His loans are secured gambles, if they come off he will be in profit from another year of sky money, if they fails he can pay himself back from selling club assets.

So it would make sense for him to buy the remaining 10% but he will do it at market value (£8m region) and not give away an extra £90m for no reason what so ever.

And that is the crux of it.

So sweet of you to write all that text not answering my question So he either rebuild his values or he rips them apart
to get his money back. Who is playing who for fools when suggesting we should get behind the ripping of the club? I cant think of anyone who would profit from devaluating our club!? Or can i Whipping boy

Why does this have to turn into a Tan Out thread? It was created to show the picture if how blue the away end was. Something we should be proud of

Ive answered that. You have appealed to my business brain so ive given you the answer.

I wouldnt EVER do debt to equity, and neither will he. Hw owns 90% of the club so tell me one reason why he will essentially buy the other 10% for £100m which of course values the business at £1 billion pro rata

Its pure nonsense and the suggestion is ludicrous, he is playing you all for fools and you are lapping it up. If the club is worth £80m then the going rate for the final 10% is around £8m. Its like embarking on buying a house to make a profit and then buying a £80,000 house for £1 million.

Ridiculous.

He will buy the other 10% for around £8m - £10m and the club will still owe him close to £100m.

Bookmark it if you like.

Its like when i was 12 and told my mate not going into my rom, he did, and held him back. We spent the next half hour arguing about why i held his precious shirt So you really dont understand the economics of it? Plain text. IF YOU WHERE COMMITTED TO TURN YOUR LOANS, would you do so now, or would you wait, and why? How could you actually turn this to a profit and raise the value of the club at the same time? What is ridiculous is you actually believe Tan would make his money from loans. Every empirical evidence suggest otherwise with his creating of values through stock market. Whipping boy, i guess we leave it there, dont want to spend time arguing about a shirt..

That makes no sense.

He is not commited to turn his loans to equity and it is not his business plan to make profit from his loans. I assumed you actually had a grasp of the situation. Ill break it down.

Tan (on the advice of TG) invested £6m in a club that was in financial hardship but was on the verge of the Prem, an excellent return if successful - it wasnt and he ended up with a £6m white elephant on his hands.

The club was losing money hand over fist (£1m a month). He was faced with a situation, to step back, put a lock on his wallet and kiss goodbye to his £6m (any liquidation would see others paid before him to the point there wouldnt be anything left in the pot) or cover the defecit safe in the knowledge that heavy investment usually gains promotion.

He wanted Langston sorted ASAP because the loans he was giving to cover the monthly shortfall were not secured in the sense that if the club folded the money raised would go to Langston and not him. Hence why he made this a priority.

He covered the defecit and spent £12m on playing staff to ensure promotion. He then saw an opportunity commercially to appeal to the asian market to ensure he can offload the club and make some profit.

He was about £40m out of pocket upon promotion which gave him then £50-£60m to play with to secure the clubs status in which he would then have an option to sell up, float the club (would never be a feasible option imo) or invest minimally and bank profits.

However this season was a disaster and it looks as if you are about to be relegated. His debt will only get to the levels in which the assets cover, which is why it is always around the £80m - £100m mark. His loans are secured gambles, if they come off he will be in profit from another year of sky money, if they fails he can pay himself back from selling club assets.

So it would make sense for him to buy the remaining 10% but he will do it at market value (£8m region) and not give away an extra £90m for no reason what so ever.

And that is the crux of it.

So sweet of you to write all that text not answering my question So he either rebuild his values or he rips them apart
to get his money back. Who is playing who for fools when suggesting we should get behind the ripping of the club? I cant think of anyone who would profit from devaluating our club!? Or can i Whipping boy

Nothing to do with it being sweet, you seem to want to engage in conversation yet dont seem to understand what is being discussed - i took it on myself to educate tou. It seems it failed.

Ive answered your question every single time. Ive never known anyone to get an answer to their question so often only to keep saying they havent been answered.... In fact there was one. But his tongue got "stolen" Hmmmmm

Ive answered that. You have appealed to my business brain so ive given you the answer.

I wouldnt EVER do debt to equity, and neither will he. Hw owns 90% of the club so tell me one reason why he will essentially buy the other 10% for £100m which of course values the business at £1 billion pro rata

Its pure nonsense and the suggestion is ludicrous, he is playing you all for fools and you are lapping it up. If the club is worth £80m then the going rate for the final 10% is around £8m. Its like embarking on buying a house to make a profit and then buying a £80,000 house for £1 million.

Ridiculous.

He will buy the other 10% for around £8m - £10m and the club will still owe him close to £100m.

Bookmark it if you like.

Its like when i was 12 and told my mate not going into my rom, he did, and held him back. We spent the next half hour arguing about why i held his precious shirt So you really dont understand the economics of it? Plain text. IF YOU WHERE COMMITTED TO TURN YOUR LOANS, would you do so now, or would you wait, and why? How could you actually turn this to a profit and raise the value of the club at the same time? What is ridiculous is you actually believe Tan would make his money from loans. Every empirical evidence suggest otherwise with his creating of values through stock market. Whipping boy, i guess we leave it there, dont want to spend time arguing about a shirt..

That makes no sense.

He is not commited to turn his loans to equity and it is not his business plan to make profit from his loans. I assumed you actually had a grasp of the situation. Ill break it down.

Tan (on the advice of TG) invested £6m in a club that was in financial hardship but was on the verge of the Prem, an excellent return if successful - it wasnt and he ended up with a £6m white elephant on his hands.

The club was losing money hand over fist (£1m a month). He was faced with a situation, to step back, put a lock on his wallet and kiss goodbye to his £6m (any liquidation would see others paid before him to the point there wouldnt be anything left in the pot) or cover the defecit safe in the knowledge that heavy investment usually gains promotion.

He wanted Langston sorted ASAP because the loans he was giving to cover the monthly shortfall were not secured in the sense that if the club folded the money raised would go to Langston and not him. Hence why he made this a priority.

He covered the defecit and spent £12m on playing staff to ensure promotion. He then saw an opportunity commercially to appeal to the asian market to ensure he can offload the club and make some profit.

He was about £40m out of pocket upon promotion which gave him then £50-£60m to play with to secure the clubs status in which he would then have an option to sell up, float the club (would never be a feasible option imo) or invest minimally and bank profits.

However this season was a disaster and it looks as if you are about to be relegated. His debt will only get to the levels in which the assets cover, which is why it is always around the £80m - £100m mark. His loans are secured gambles, if they come off he will be in profit from another year of sky money, if they fails he can pay himself back from selling club assets.

So it would make sense for him to buy the remaining 10% but he will do it at market value (£8m region) and not give away an extra £90m for no reason what so ever.

And that is the crux of it.

So sweet of you to write all that text not answering my question So he either rebuild his values or he rips them apart
to get his money back. Who is playing who for fools when suggesting we should get behind the ripping of the club? I cant think of anyone who would profit from devaluating our club!? Or can i Whipping boy

Nothing to do with it being sweet, you seem to want to engage in conversation yet dont seem to understand what is being discussed - i took it on myself to educate tou. It seems it failed.

Ive answered your question every single time. Ive never known anyone to get an answer to their question so often only to keep saying they havent been answered.... In fact there was one. But his tongue got "stolen" Hmmmmm

I cant see any answer to my question. I see you turn my question into you would never rebuild the values, you would take the money and run. But not how to rebuild them. In fact you seem to want him to run and devaluate the club. Your like an intelligent version of barry chuckles

Its like asking someone would you prefer to rape someone before or after lunch and then accusing me of not answering your question by saying "i would never do it".

What "values" are you wanting rebuilt or destroyed?

Its like asking someone would you prefer to rape someone before or after lunch and then accusing me of not answering your question by saying "i would never do it".

What "values" are you wanting rebuilt or destroyed?

We are not talking about the swans are we? So the values at cardiff can not be turned into profit?

Its like asking someone would you prefer to rape someone before or after lunch and then accusing me of not answering your question by saying "i would never do it".

What "values" are you wanting rebuilt or destroyed?

We are not talking about the swans are we? So the values at cardiff can not be turned into profit?

Again, what values.

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

Yes, I think we should take the directors box back by force too.

Its a shame that when it comes to the difficult task of raising a bit of cloth above your head then you can do it.

But when it comes to actually getting tan out and taking your club back nobody has the bollocks.

This would be a decent photo, instead its meaningless showmanship and posturing.

You have a voice - use it.

Yes, I think we should take the directors box back by force too.

Ive not told you to do that have I?

If you want your blue back then Tan has told you how, not only that but common sense and more importantly - even history tells you how.

The fact it isnt being done tells me the lure of Prem football and wild spending placed on the future of the club is far more appealing which is why these meaningless protests are lauded as some brilliant movement.

The fact is, you are doing nothing.

You want your club back then get some bollocks and take it back, if not then stop crowing about Tan and the rebrand and accept all the shit coming your way. Simple as that.

Here f*cking here roathy

You want your club back then get some bollocks and take it back, if not then stop crowing about Tan and the rebrand and accept all the shit coming your way. Simple as that.

Here f*cking here roathy

Someone has to say it as it is.

If it werent for me this forum would be a collective big pat on the back for doing sweet FA but having sme nice photo opportunities.

Everybody loves the Tan reign IMO regardless of the damage it is doing to the club. People just want an excuse to enjoy it and have plausible deniability to say "we are doing all we can" - which is why these shows (because thats all they are) are strictly not Tan out and are as tame as can be.

As i said before its like someone pretending to be angry at someone while telling their mates "hold me back, hold me back" - its all just for show, its all just posturing and its all just bollocks.

Its like asking someone would you prefer to rape someone before or after lunch and then accusing me of not answering your question by saying "i would never do it".

What "values" are you wanting rebuilt or destroyed?

We are not talking about the swans are we? So the values at cardiff can not be turned into profit?

Again, what values.

YOU valued the club at 80mill, Owed 100mill. How turn it? YOU already said you would cut your loss and run, and suggest Tan should do the same. But how could you turn it? If you really wanted to

Its like asking someone would you prefer to rape someone before or after lunch and then accusing me of not answering your question by saying "i would never do it".

What "values" are you wanting rebuilt or destroyed?

We are not talking about the swans are we? So the values at cardiff can not be turned into profit?

Again, what values.

YOU valued the club at 80mill, Owed 100mill. How turn it? YOU already said you would cut your loss and run, and suggest Tan should do the same. But how could you turn it? If you really wanted to

I didnt value the club at £80m. The share price of the championship side valued it at £80m (from memory, maybe it was £60m).

I didnt say I would cut my losses either, i said I would sell up and bank the profit. Tan has got himself into a situation where everything he puts in is covered, hence why he and other like minded businessmen are rich men. Its basic business ethos called a risk to reward ratio - i work on the same premise and have got everything I ever wanted before the age of 30.

It is a "free bet" principle. Loan the company money on order to grow, if it doesnt then make sure the company has that loan value in assets in which you would get the loan amount back if the asset(s) is sold.

If relegated then any monies Tan puts in to the club in order to attempt to raise the stock value of the club will be unsecured and a major risk. The risk to reward ratio is not favourable, especially with the huge overspend he will undoubtedly have to cover evey month upon relegation which will make the parachute payments look like loose change.

Its like asking someone would you prefer to rape someone before or after lunch and then accusing me of not answering your question by saying "i would never do it".

What "values" are you wanting rebuilt or destroyed?

We are not talking about the swans are we? So the values at cardiff can not be turned into profit?

Again, what values.

YOU valued the club at 80mill, Owed 100mill. How turn it? YOU already said you would cut your loss and run, and suggest Tan should do the same. But how could you turn it? If you really wanted to

I didnt value the club at £80m. The share price of the championship side valued it at £80m (from memory, maybe it was £60m).

I didnt say I would cut my losses either, i said I would sell up and bank the profit. Tan has got himself into a situation where everything he puts in is covered, hence why he and other like minded businessmen are rich men. Its basic business ethos called a risk to reward ratio - i work on the same premise and have got everything I ever wanted before the age of 30.

If relegated then any monies Tan puts in to the club in order to attempt to raise the stock value of the club will be unsecured and a major risk. The risk to reward ratio is not favourable, especially with the huge overspend he will undoubtedly have to cover evey month upon relegation which will make the parachute payments look like loose change.

Now we are getting somewhere go on!

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Less and less red every week and more and more blue we are going strong I'd say this 'split' in the fanbase is disappearing

Its like asking someone would you prefer to rape someone before or after lunch and then accusing me of not answering your question by saying "i would never do it".

What "values" are you wanting rebuilt or destroyed?

We are not talking about the swans are we? So the values at cardiff can not be turned into profit?

Again, what values.

YOU valued the club at 80mill, Owed 100mill. How turn it? YOU already said you would cut your loss and run, and suggest Tan should do the same. But how could you turn it? If you really wanted to

I didnt value the club at £80m. The share price of the championship side valued it at £80m (from memory, maybe it was £60m).

I didnt say I would cut my losses either, i said I would sell up and bank the profit. Tan has got himself into a situation where everything he puts in is covered, hence why he and other like minded businessmen are rich men. Its basic business ethos called a risk to reward ratio - i work on the same premise and have got everything I ever wanted before the age of 30.

If relegated then any monies Tan puts in to the club in order to attempt to raise the stock value of the club will be unsecured and a major risk. The risk to reward ratio is not favourable, especially with the huge overspend he will undoubtedly have to cover evey month upon relegation which will make the parachute payments look like loose change.

Now we are getting somewhere go on!

No? So he either find someone stupid enough to by and take the loss for him, or cut the club to pieces and get what he can back? Surely there must be a way to make a profit from this?