Question EVERYONE needs to answer

Depends on what proof you have.

Considering the overwhelming majority of your fans wont say anything publically about Tan suggests it os the case.

What I will say is that only a small % of fans post/look on here so you are forming an opinion on a minority of fans.

I speak to mates and work colleagues that don't even know what goes on inside this little bubble of self importance.

There are a lot of different opinions away from the people that post on here and take everything written on here as gospel...

Depends on what proof you have.

Considering the overwhelming majority of your fans wont say anything publically about Tan suggests it os the case.

What I will say is that only a small % of fans post/look on here so you are forming an opinion on a minority of fans.

I speak to mates and work colleagues that don't even know what goes on inside this little bubble of self importance.

There are a lot of different opinions away from the people that post on here and take everything written on here as gospel...

Its not about what is written on here though. There hasnt been one anti tan protest inside or outside the stadium, and if there has been then it has been ridiculously poorly attended or lame in in execution.

Depends on what proof you have.

Considering the overwhelming majority of your fans wont say anything publically about Tan suggests it os the case.

What I will say is that only a small % of fans post/look on here so you are forming an opinion on a minority of fans.

I speak to mates and work colleagues that don't even know what goes on inside this little bubble of self importance.

There are a lot of different opinions away from the people that post on here and take everything written on here as gospel...

Its not about what is written on here though. There hasnt been one anti tan protest inside or outside the stadium, and if there has been then it has been ridiculously poorly attended or lame in in execution.

Not arguing that with you as I'd not have an argument to start..

Agreed with nj's post.

Because the majority of real fans don't want him out, SIMPLE !, only some of the desciples and followers of this board do.and my facts are people and fans I talk to in work, in the pub, in the ground and friends, take your rose coloured glasses off and get real. You know what half of you won't be there next year, not because of Tan, but because you are what we used to call sun shiners, not the childish term plastics, and we used to call you sun shiners because you used roll up to the ground when it was pay at the gate, when the city were on a good run or when we were playing a top team in the cup, we would lose, and you wouldn't come back until them next time. In all my sixty years of going to City games, I have never heard or read so much drivel as is written by some so called fans on this board, some people write from the heart because it is what they believe in, good that is what opinions are all about, but I have found you are not the majority, and in many ways you are the real reason we failed in the premier ship, because " YOU ONLY SiNG WHEN YOU ARE WINNING" rings true with a lot of you, hence the crap atmosphere at times during matches,
Well my advice to you sun shiners is piss off and don't come back we don't need you, if you only want to be there in the good times, then don't come at all, and don't give me the shit about Tan has spoiled it for you, because if you can't put up with things you don't agree with without expressing yourself in an educated manner, then you are going to lead a sad life.

God I feel better I have been wanting to say that all season long .

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Because the majority of real fans don't want him out, SIMPLE !, only some of the desciples and followers of this board do.and my facts are people and fans I talk to in work, in the pub, in the ground and friends, take your rose coloured glasses off and get real. You know what half of you won't be there next year, not because of Tan, but because you are what we used to call sun shiners, not the childish term plastics, and we used to call you sun shiners because you used roll up to the ground when it was pay at the gate, when the city were on a good run or when we were playing a top team in the cup, we would lose, and you wouldn't come back until them next time. In all my sixty years of going to City games, I have never heard or read so much drivel as is written by some so called fans on this board, some people write from the heart because it is what they believe in, good that is what opinions are all about, but I have found you are not the majority, and in many ways you are the real reason we failed in the premier ship, because " YOU ONLY SiNG WHEN YOU ARE WINNING" rings true with a lot of you, hence the crap atmosphere at times during matches,
Well my advice to you sun shiners is piss off and don't come back we don't need you, if you only want to be there in the good times, then don't come at all, and don't give me the shit about Tan has spoiled it for you, because if you can't put up with things you don't agree with without expressing yourself in an educated manner, then you are going to lead a sad life.

God I feel better I have been wanting to say that all season long .

Probably an early contender for post of the year.

El Jefe posts a lot of sense. I appreciate and respect everyones views on here but the stark reality is that if VT walked we would not be worrying about whether we play in blue or red. We wouldnt have a club to support.

At the moment VT does not charge interest on his loan. If he walked he could insist on being paid £10m per year in interest payments - and thats before the loan is repaid. There is no way the club could afford that.

Going back through the years I remember people complaining about Stefan Terlezki, Tony Clemo, Rick Wright, the Kumas and Sam. The fact is that despite us being in the Premiership some of our supporters are never happy.

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Because the majority of real fans don't want him out, SIMPLE !, only some of the desciples and followers of this board do.and my facts are people and fans I talk to in work, in the pub, in the ground and friends, take your rose coloured glasses off and get real. You know what half of you won't be there next year, not because of Tan, but because you are what we used to call sun shiners, not the childish term plastics, and we used to call you sun shiners because you used roll up to the ground when it was pay at the gate, when the city were on a good run or when we were playing a top team in the cup, we would lose, and you wouldn't come back until them next time. In all my sixty years of going to City games, I have never heard or read so much drivel as is written by some so called fans on this board, some people write from the heart because it is what they believe in, good that is what opinions are all about, but I have found you are not the majority, and in many ways you are the real reason we failed in the premier ship, because " YOU ONLY SiNG WHEN YOU ARE WINNING" rings true with a lot of you, hence the crap atmosphere at times during matches,
Well my advice to you sun shiners is piss off and don't come back we don't need you, if you only want to be there in the good times, then don't come at all, and don't give me the shit about Tan has spoiled it for you, because if you can't put up with things you don't agree with without expressing yourself in an educated manner, then you are going to lead a sad life.

God I feel better I have been wanting to say that all season long .

HURRAHHHHHHHHH BEST POST FOR A LONG LONG TIME.

keep the faith

What will piss him off is in two years time if we're still in the championship with lower gates no parachute payments and getting low revenue off minimal merchandise sales.
The problem with situation comes down to the fact so many fans wether they have supported the club through dark days or have supported the club in the last decade, have the full range of views on tan.
I dare say some think he's doing sterling work. Then the ones who don't agree with what he's doing but are worried that him pulling out will be the death of our club. You then go to the extreme of the fans which there are many who will never set foot in that ground until he's gone because of the rebrand.
That's why we'll always be blue is sung by the vast majority and the Vincent tan song is by very few. It is the main thing people want a return of our identity and not necessarily tan to pack his bags after all the damage he's done.
el Jefe is right about our past owners and we've had some beauts but all fans moan about their team or board at some stage of supporting their team that's football.

Anti tan songs are non existent..you know this..

lets get one thig straight,Tan has become the owner of Cardiff City to make a profit on his investment, if we go into the championship it will be a set back and a dissapointment, but a disaster no he will invest more to become successful so that he can sell at a profit, that's how billonaires accumulate thier fortunes, he's a buisiness mogul and likes making profit, this is a challenge to people like Tan, they don't like to lie down and get beat, he admitted himself he new nothing about football, but I bet he know's a lot more now, forget about going back to blue, he has made his descission and he won't turn away, he has made mistakes he knows that, some of his descissions I agree with some I don't, it won't stop me going to matches because it's in my blood, change of colour don't brother me, Christ you could not have got a worst shirt than the one with the yellow and white stripe or the one with the Echo on it, change of name would, that is losing our identity, but change of colour no, we are still Cardiff City Afc, and will always be the blue birds, that will only stop when we stop singing it, change of badge didn't know we had one till 25 years ago it wasn't that important till then.
If you want to follow the City, then stop being moaning cry babies, and support the team, Mayby, just mayby you can write in sixty years time, remember when were on the FA Cup final and we won it, remember when we were in the league cup final and we won it, some how I don't think many will.