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Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:45 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:14 am

maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:22 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.

What i like to know is who brought in Ben Turner? Is he back in training, or still down in the stadium holding his hand up?

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:30 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:36 am

maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.


Neil so what?

The point is DJ had a better squad than Malky but could not get us over the finish line hence why he was sacked.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:38 am

FAO annis

where is annis reply :thumbup:

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:42 am

maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.


Has Malky actually manager to sell anything :?

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:44 am

Natman Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.


Has Malky actually manager to sell anything :?


:D

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:58 am

Natman Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.


Has Malky actually manager to sell anything :?


Yep Kenny Miller was his first huge mistake.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:02 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.


Neil so what?

The point is DJ had a better squad than Malky but could not get us over the finish line hence why he was sacked.


He had to sell his best players year on year. He didn't have the stability that Malky had. You say he had a better squad he did this with a smaller budget wheeling and dealing. If he was able to spend as much money as Malky he would have smashed the championship rather than crawl over the line like Malky did playing shite football. He also would have had better players and a better squad more prepared for the Premiership.

All my opinion of course.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:13 am

Natman Blue wrote:Has Malky actually manager to sell anything :?


I always thought that a manager was supposed to BUY good players & not sell them. :D

Which Malky did very well indeed in the championship. I'm sure if we tried to sell some of Malky's signings, we would get some very good money indeed. :thumbup:

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:16 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:Has Malky actually manager to sell anything :?


I always thought that a manager was supposed to BUY good players & not sell them. :D

Which Malky did very well indeed in the championship. I'm sure if we tried to sell some of Malky's signings, we would get some very good money indeed. :thumbup:


Velikonja?

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:18 am

Natman Blue wrote:Velikonja?


Mutch? No one? Campbell? Maynard? Turner? Mason? :D

Easy to name players. Could also point to some absolutely fabulous DJ striker flops. We always had one every season. :laughing6:

Both good managers, but to compare them by what they sold, rather than quality they bought, is lunacy.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:23 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:Velikonja?


Mutch? No one? Campbell? Maynard? Turner? Mason? :D

Easy to name players. Could also point to some absolutely fabulous DJ striker flops. We always had one every season. :laughing6:

Both good managers, but to compare them by what they sold, rather than quality they bought, is lunacy.


See, exactly! No one!!! :laughing6: ;)

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:27 am

Point nicely swerved. :thumbup:

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:29 am

Both great managers who served us well. If I remember right Malky did an outstanding job on a similar (possibly reduced) budget to Jones in 2011/2012.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:33 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:Point nicely swerved. :thumbup:


:ayatollah:

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:34 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:Velikonja?


Mutch? No one? Campbell? Maynard? Turner? Mason? :D

Easy to name players. Could also point to some absolutely fabulous DJ striker flops. We always had one every season. :laughing6:

Both good managers, but to compare them by what they sold, rather than quality they bought, is lunacy.


Nah its true. Due to the different circumstance its like trying to compare apples and oranges. Both good in their own way, both bad. Just couldn't resist the opportunity for a joke at the No One

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:53 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.


Neil so what?

The point is DJ had a better squad than Malky but could not get us over the finish line hence why he was sacked.


thats a ridiculous argument.........he had a better squas for much less cash......that does mean he is a lot better manager.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:56 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:Has Malky actually manager to sell anything :?


I always thought that a manager was supposed to BUY good players & not sell them. :D

Which Malky did very well indeed in the championship. I'm sure if we tried to sell some of Malky's signings, we would get some very good money indeed. :thumbup:


the 1st line sums it up..........Malky was allowed to keep...DJ was not...and infact,the one player he managed to hang on to,many slaughter him for not selling..Ledley

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:57 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:Velikonja?


Mutch? No one? Campbell? Maynard? Turner? Mason? :D

Easy to name players. Could also point to some absolutely fabulous DJ striker flops. We always had one every season. :laughing6:

Both good managers, but to compare them by what they sold, rather than quality they bought, is lunacy.


We shall see in the summer once we are relegated.

Mutch too injury prone to get more than we paid IMHO
Noone inconsistent
Turner no pace
Mason. Stagnated and where is he?
Maynard will never get 2.5 million for him
Campbell. Top clubs or even middle clubs won't be queueing to buy him.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:58 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.


Neil so what?

The point is DJ had a better squad than Malky but could not get us over the finish line hence why he was sacked.


thats a ridiculous argument.........he had a better squas for much less cash......that does mean he is a lot better manager.


And how much value do you think the loanees under DJ would have cost?

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:04 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.


Neil so what?

The point is DJ had a better squad than Malky but could not get us over the finish line hence why he was sacked.


thats a ridiculous argument.........he had a better squas for much less cash......that does mean he is a lot better manager.


And how much value do you think the loanees under DJ would have cost?

Not much, thats why they were allowed out on loan.

Although Stephen Bywater was a £10m plus player ifever I saw one

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:05 pm

maccydee wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:Velikonja?


Mutch? No one? Campbell? Maynard? Turner? Mason? :D

Easy to name players. Could also point to some absolutely fabulous DJ striker flops. We always had one every season. :laughing6:

Both good managers, but to compare them by what they sold, rather than quality they bought, is lunacy.


We shall see in the summer once we are relegated.

Mutch too injury prone to get more than we paid IMHO
Noone inconsistent
Turner no pace
Mason. Stagnated and where is he?
Maynard will never get 2.5 million for him
Campbell. Top clubs or even middle clubs won't be queueing to buy him.


The only 2 players that will be sold are Medel and caulker IMO. No one else will pay decent money for any other player except maybe Marshall. Cardiff have no need to sell players on the cheap, so players like mutch will not go unless a decent offer comes in IMO. No one will want to buy any else besides them 4 anyway.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:21 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:dj has proven before with wolves he can take a team up, he would of done times better than the milkman id guarantee it


Dave Jones had a far superior quality squad than Malky but failed to even get us up so can't see how you can claim that.


And a far smaller budget. Are you saying that DJ can put together a better squad than Malky with less Ian?

I agree with you that Dave Jones was better with money than Malky.


DJ was allowed to bring in Bellamy, Oli, Keogh, Drinkwater and Komaus on loan. Not cheap.


Malky had Bellamy too but on a permanent deal not most of his wages paid by Man City.

DJ bought cheap sold expensive.

Malky bought expensive sold cheap.


Neil so what?

The point is DJ had a better squad than Malky but could not get us over the finish line hence why he was sacked.


thats a ridiculous argument.........he had a better squas for much less cash......that does mean he is a lot better manager.


And how much value do you think the loanees under DJ would have cost?


i know its been pushed that these were on mega bucks.........but the wage bill was the same in malkys 1st year as Djs last....thats what the club say.........and thats without Bellamy who had gone back....so across the board,Malky had players of greater worth......Malkys 2nd year..well he spent a fortune in the transfer market......had bellamy back..and the wage bill rocketed.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:42 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
binero wrote:Annis not having a go but you keep on about Malky taking us up but lets face it he had a huge budget, I honestly think Dave Jones would have taken us up with that budget and playing a better brand of football . :bluescarf:

i have to agree dave jones would of but he would of still fucked up like malky did and would of got the sack ;)


you reckon DJ would have spent 8 million on Acorn?.

But he did not buy acorn in the budget that took us up did he. Malky got us promoted on a 15 million pound budget which I am sure a few clubs in the championship would settle for. In regards to your acorn comment then it was almost inevitable that Malky would sign at least one or 2 players who did not make the grade especially as he had to almost build a new team.

Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:44 pm

binero wrote:Annis not having a go but you keep on about Malky taking us up but lets face it he had a huge budget, I honestly think Dave Jones would have taken us up with that budget and playing a better brand of football . :bluescarf:

" Can We All just lay this to rest once and for All Please "
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Re: FAO Annis

Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:46 pm

Kenfig Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:Velikonja?


Mutch? No one? Campbell? Maynard? Turner? Mason? :D

Easy to name players. Could also point to some absolutely fabulous DJ striker flops. We always had one every season. :laughing6:

Both good managers, but to compare them by what they sold, rather than quality they bought, is lunacy.


We shall see in the summer once we are relegated.

Mutch too injury prone to get more than we paid IMHO
Noone inconsistent
Turner no pace
Mason. Stagnated and where is he?
Maynard will never get 2.5 million for him
Campbell. Top clubs or even middle clubs won't be queueing to buy him.


The only 2 players that will be sold are Medel and caulker IMO. No one else will pay decent money for any other player except maybe Marshall. Cardiff have no need to sell players on the cheap, so players like mutch will not go unless a decent offer comes in IMO. No one will want to buy any else besides them 4 anyway.


Medel will not be sold unless he has a class World Cup. Marshall was a DJ signing.