Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:28 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Caulker is NOT better than Williams.
Williams far more comfortable with the ball at his feet which is a big plus in this division.
Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:35 pm
Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:46 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Fabio for £2m?! My eyes are bleeding![]()
I will give you £15m for Caulker, Marshall and Mutch.
Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:56 pm
Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:16 pm
llan bluebird wrote:As mad as it sounds I think we will get our money back on both medel and caulker.... There is always some mad b*stard with more cash than brains. Who do you know who would have bought Kenwyn Jones ? Oh yes us !!!
Mutch will be interesting. I doubt he is on that much back in the championship, he will attarct a lot of clubs and his Englishness will double his real value.
Marshall is another we do not have to sell on, just signed a long deal obvoiusly to bump up any transfers £6~8 million
Not sure about nooney, getting on although not many miles or injuries on the clock. Has he done that much to get more than £3 million
Daehli will be going nowhere.
Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:32 pm
piledriver64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Caulker is NOT better than Williams.
Williams far more comfortable with the ball at his feet which is a big plus in this division.
You have surely got to be kidding !!
Caulker is twice the player of Williams on the ball and still 8 years younger than him.
When was the last time Williams stepped out of defence with the ball ? Caulker does it every game. Our problem is we haven't got a partner for him.
If he goes it will be to a big, top 6 club for at lesst £8m. Bookmark it !!
Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:51 pm
piledriver64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Caulker is NOT better than Williams.
Williams far more comfortable with the ball at his feet which is a big plus in this division.
You have surely got to be kidding !!
Caulker is twice the player of Williams on the ball and still 8 years younger than him.
When was the last time Williams stepped out of defence with the ball ? Caulker does it every game. Our problem is we haven't got a partner for him.
If he goes it will be to a big, top 6 club for at lesst £8m. Bookmark it !!
Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:10 pm
Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:16 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:piledriver64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Caulker is NOT better than Williams.
Williams far more comfortable with the ball at his feet which is a big plus in this division.
You have surely got to be kidding !!
Caulker is twice the player of Williams on the ball and still 8 years younger than him.
When was the last time Williams stepped out of defence with the ball ? Caulker does it every game. Our problem is we haven't got a partner for him.
If he goes it will be to a big, top 6 club for at lesst £8m. Bookmark it !!
Williams steps out of defence with the ball every game.
He was Williams' understudy and looks to have gone backwards a bit without him by his side.
Williams is the better defender withiut doubt,
Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:50 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Mario wrote:If we sold Caulker for 8 million it would be one of the most retarded decisions we have made. Stewart Downing went for 20 million, people quoting Luke Shaw at 40 million, fkin Andy Carroll 35 million, James Milner 25 million, Henderson 20 million.
He wont go for more than £8m IMO.
If we all based our valuations on them every side would be worth billions. If andy carroll is worth £35m then bony is £120m on his own.
Wed Apr 09, 2014 2:08 am
piledriver64 wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:piledriver64 wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Caulker is NOT better than Williams.
Williams far more comfortable with the ball at his feet which is a big plus in this division.
You have surely got to be kidding !!
Caulker is twice the player of Williams on the ball and still 8 years younger than him.
When was the last time Williams stepped out of defence with the ball ? Caulker does it every game. Our problem is we haven't got a partner for him.
If he goes it will be to a big, top 6 club for at lesst £8m. Bookmark it !!
Williams steps out of defence with the ball every game.
He was Williams' understudy and looks to have gone backwards a bit without him by his side.
Williams is the better defender withiut doubt,
Sorry but never in a million years is Williams better than Caulker even now.
No coincidence that ut is Caulker being talked about for a move to Liverpool or Spurs and not Williams !!
I'll take Brendan's judgement over yours thanks !!!
Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:56 am
Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:59 am
El Tel wrote:Never in a million years is Williams an Arsenal or Liverpool quality player as is evident by the fact that they have never come in for him. That despite the fact both have their defensive problems. The only time one of the big boys may take a chance on him is if he runs his contract down and so becomes ridiculously inexpensive.
Time will tell but that's my opinion.
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Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:05 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:El Tel wrote:Never in a million years is Williams an Arsenal or Liverpool quality player as is evident by the fact that they have never come in for him. That despite the fact both have their defensive problems. The only time one of the big boys may take a chance on him is if he runs his contract down and so becomes ridiculously inexpensive.
Time will tell but that's my opinion.
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He is good enough for any side in the Prem.
Liverpool havent bid for Van Persie either, hes pretty handy.
Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:11 am
El Tel wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:El Tel wrote:Never in a million years is Williams an Arsenal or Liverpool quality player as is evident by the fact that they have never come in for him. That despite the fact both have their defensive problems. The only time one of the big boys may take a chance on him is if he runs his contract down and so becomes ridiculously inexpensive.
Time will tell but that's my opinion.
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He is good enough for any side in the Prem.
Liverpool havent bid for Van Persie either, hes pretty handy.
What a ridiculous reply. They haven't bid for Messi either then and are unlikely too. The fact is they would have bid for Williams if they had thought he was good enough as he would have jumped at the chance. Liverpool instead chose to buy two foreign defenders with more potential than a player who will be 30 this Summer and who has probably now missed his chance of playing for the big club that he craves.
Like I say unless he runs down his contract which expires in 2015.
Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:17 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:El Tel wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:El Tel wrote:Never in a million years is Williams an Arsenal or Liverpool quality player as is evident by the fact that they have never come in for him. That despite the fact both have their defensive problems. The only time one of the big boys may take a chance on him is if he runs his contract down and so becomes ridiculously inexpensive.
Time will tell but that's my opinion.
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He is good enough for any side in the Prem.
Liverpool havent bid for Van Persie either, hes pretty handy.
What a ridiculous reply. They haven't bid for Messi either then and are unlikely too. The fact is they would have bid for Williams if they had thought he was good enough as he would have jumped at the chance. Liverpool instead chose to buy two foreign defenders with more potential than a player who will be 30 this Summer and who has probably now missed his chance of playing for the big club that he craves.
Like I say unless he runs down his contract which expires in 2015.
It is exaxtly the same.
It is nothing to do with Williams jumping at the chance, hes under contract. Liverpool would have to fork out £10m to land him which is a lot for a 29/30 year old from a small club.
Italian press are linking him this morning with a move to Napoli in the summer.
Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:19 am
Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:22 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:They didnt bid for Messi either..... Or caulker
Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:24 am
El Tel wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:They didnt bid for Messi either..... Or caulker
Again besides the point but Caulker is not good enough for Liverpool yet either but is much younger and will improve.
Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:36 am
Roath_Magic_ wrote:El Tel wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:They didnt bid for Messi either..... Or caulker
Again besides the point but Caulker is not good enough for Liverpool yet either but is much younger and will improve.
Its not besides the point at all. You seem to think anyone Liverpool haven't bid for means they are not good enough.
Van Persie went to Man Utd for £20m, they could have matched that as you proved just now.
Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:40 am
Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:06 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:£20m, £24m the point remains.
Williams is in the unattainable bracket as we wouldnt let him go for what thier owners would allow him to bid. Simple.
Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:12 pm
Roath_Magic_ wrote:£20m, £24m the point remains.
Williams is in the unattainable bracket as we wouldnt let him go for what thier owners would allow him to bid. Simple.
Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:45 pm
llan bluebird wrote:Roath_Magic_ wrote:£20m, £24m the point remains.
Williams is in the unattainable bracket as we wouldnt let him go for what thier owners would allow him to bid. Simple.
I don't know how long Ash has on his contract, but if liverpool were serious about putting in an offer, there is no way Huw could hold him back.... Its 2014 and as much I believe Ash is a model professional, his agent would be all over it.... The players have the power nowdays.