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Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:52 pm

NJ73 wrote:Anyone who believes that the reason Natman Blue has been banned was for saying that someone told him mods could read everyone's PM's is extremely naive, and moderators pretending this is the reason for him being banned are treating all other board members as fools.


I personally don't like being accused of reading other peoples private messages. Would you?

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:55 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Don't agree that anyone should be banned for their opinions, I disagreed big time with his, but he has a right to them.

I can tell you now though, that PMs on any forum software are only able to be read by the sender and recipient.

PM's can be read Barry as they are stored in the server's database. Anyone with access to the server (admin and some mods) are able to read them even if deleted from your inbox. It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.

I dont believe it has happened on here though.

Craig,

I can tell you that no moderator or administrator is able to read any pm other than their own on this message board and that is absolute fact.

If you have access to the servers database and you know what you're doing you can. I did say that I dont believe its been done but saying It cant be done is like saying the moon is made of cheese.

Craig, with the correct software you can 'bring back' deleted files off your PC which are saved in the DAT which is how so many criminals get caught so I have to concede you are probably correct.

But I can tell you for absolute certainty that no moderator has access to the server so therefore cannot read pm's.

The only two administrators are myself and Owain and I can tell you that I do not know to access them through a database and I absolutely certain that Owain doesn't and wouldn't.

And as to Annis he struggles to put a picture on the message board and doesn't have access to what Owain has, he couldn't even out his own Avator on here :lol:

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:55 pm

So much for "All Opinions Welcome". As long as you toe the agenda line your fine, you all happily allow shit stirring jacks as long as it keeps with your Anti-Tan Anti-Cardiff City bullshit

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:55 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Anyone who believes that the reason Natman Blue has been banned was for saying that someone told him mods could read everyone's PM's is extremely naive, and moderators pretending this is the reason for him being banned are treating all other board members as fools.


I personally don't like being accused of reading other peoples private messages. Would you?


I'm sure you don't but it's hardly the reason for a ban, as anyone with a modicum of intelligence will see.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:56 pm

carlccfc wrote:
BillyLiar wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Don't agree that anyone should be banned for their opinions, I disagreed big time with his, but he has a right to them.

I can tell you now though, that PMs on any forum software are only able to be read by the sender and recipient.

PM's can be read Barry as they are stored in the server's database. Anyone with access to the server (admin and some mods) are able to read them even if deleted from your inbox. It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.

I dont believe it has happened on here though.

So they can be read? Can a mod confirm or deny this?

I am an admin and a mod and I absolutely can deny this.

No moderator or administrator can read private messages other than their own.


This forum runs on phpBB and Administrators can absolutely read PM's from every user on the forum.

You might not know how to do this. But it can certainly be done.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:58 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.



:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Congratulations Craig, this is the stupidest thing I've ever read on the internet!

:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:59 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Anyone who believes that the reason Natman Blue has been banned was for saying that someone told him mods could read everyone's PM's is extremely naive, and moderators pretending this is the reason for him being banned are treating all other board members as fools.


I personally don't like being accused of reading other peoples private messages. Would you?


I personally don't like being accused of being a tan lover a red lover etc so on that basis if someone calls me one will they get banned?

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:00 pm

carlccfc wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Don't agree that anyone should be banned for their opinions, I disagreed big time with his, but he has a right to them.

I can tell you now though, that PMs on any forum software are only able to be read by the sender and recipient.

PM's can be read Barry as they are stored in the server's database. Anyone with access to the server (admin and some mods) are able to read them even if deleted from your inbox. It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.

I dont believe it has happened on here though.

Craig,

I can tell you that no moderator or administrator is able to read any pm other than their own on this message board and that is absolute fact.

If you have access to the servers database and you know what you're doing you can. I did say that I dont believe its been done but saying It cant be done is like saying the moon is made of cheese.

Craig, with the correct software you can 'bring back' deleted files off your PC which are saved in the DAT which is how so many criminals get caught so I have to concede you are probably correct.

But I can tell you for absolute certainty that no moderator has access to the server so therefore cannot read pm's.

The only two administrators are myself and Owain and I can tell you that I do not know to access them through a database and I absolutely certain that Owain doesn't and wouldn't.

And as to Annis he struggles to put a picture on the message board and doesn't have access to what Owain has, he couldn't even out his own Avator on here :lol:


I don't think anyone was accusing you of reading people's PMs mate.

But you did say that Administrators can't read peoples PM's and that's bananas.

A simple Google search will show you that phpBB Administrators absolutely can read people's PM's.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:00 pm

12thMan wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.



:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Congratulations Craig, this is the stupidest thing I've ever read on the internet!

:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:


Its rumoured that Natman Blue has involved a solicitor and the only thing we have to go on for doing this is that he has accused us mods and admins of reading other users pms.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:01 pm

12thMan wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
BillyLiar wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Don't agree that anyone should be banned for their opinions, I disagreed big time with his, but he has a right to them.

I can tell you now though, that PMs on any forum software are only able to be read by the sender and recipient.

PM's can be read Barry as they are stored in the server's database. Anyone with access to the server (admin and some mods) are able to read them even if deleted from your inbox. It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.

I dont believe it has happened on here though.

So they can be read? Can a mod confirm or deny this?

I am an admin and a mod and I absolutely can deny this.

No moderator or administrator can read private messages other than their own.


This forum runs on phpBB and Administrators can absolutely read PM's from every user on the forum.

You might not know how to do this. But it can certainly be done.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Interesting.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:02 pm

12thMan wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
BillyLiar wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Don't agree that anyone should be banned for their opinions, I disagreed big time with his, but he has a right to them.

I can tell you now though, that PMs on any forum software are only able to be read by the sender and recipient.

PM's can be read Barry as they are stored in the server's database. Anyone with access to the server (admin and some mods) are able to read them even if deleted from your inbox. It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.

I dont believe it has happened on here though.

So they can be read? Can a mod confirm or deny this?

I am an admin and a mod and I absolutely can deny this.

No moderator or administrator can read private messages other than their own.


This forum runs on phpBB and Administrators can absolutely read PM's from every user on the forum.

You might not know how to do this. But it can certainly be done.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Definitely not true.
No administrator on a phpbb board can read PMs.

There may be a way of tracing text through the database, but nobody has access to the database. It would mean trawling through hundreds of thousands of text records, and besides, the messages would be anonymous.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:03 pm

12thMan wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.



:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Congratulations Craig, this is the stupidest thing I've ever read on the internet!

:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

I used the word technically which is correct. The chances of it actually happening are virtually zero

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:04 pm

12thMan wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.



:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Congratulations Craig, this is the stupidest thing I've ever read on the internet!

:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:



Clearly haven't read all of my posts then have you Mr 12th :laughing6:

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:04 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
12thMan wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.



:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Congratulations Craig, this is the stupidest thing I've ever read on the internet!

:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:


Its rumoured that Natman Blue has involved a solicitor and the only thing we have to go on for doing this is that he has accused us mods and admins of reading other users pms.


With the amount of traffic this forum gets, you're always going to get one nut case that takes things too far and takes things too seriously.

He hasn't got a leg to stand on. He would get laughed out of any appointment with a solicitor, let alone a courtroom.

It makes me question the human race when I hear about stuff like this!

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:06 pm

Owain wrote:
12thMan wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
BillyLiar wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Don't agree that anyone should be banned for their opinions, I disagreed big time with his, but he has a right to them.

I can tell you now though, that PMs on any forum software are only able to be read by the sender and recipient.

PM's can be read Barry as they are stored in the server's database. Anyone with access to the server (admin and some mods) are able to read them even if deleted from your inbox. It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.

I dont believe it has happened on here though.

So they can be read? Can a mod confirm or deny this?

I am an admin and a mod and I absolutely can deny this.

No moderator or administrator can read private messages other than their own.


This forum runs on phpBB and Administrators can absolutely read PM's from every user on the forum.

You might not know how to do this. But it can certainly be done.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Definitely not true.
No administrator on a phpbb board can read PMs.

There may be a way of tracing text through the database, but nobody has access to the database. It would mean trawling through hundreds of thousands of text records, and besides, the messages would be anonymous.

Thank you Owain for clearing that up. :thumbup:

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:09 pm

If he wants to point his solicitor in my direction I will gladly explain that no moderator is able to read PMs.

By logging into the database directly there's a possibility that text files could be viewed but that would probably mean going through a million plus records. Besides, nobody else is able to access this so it's a non starter.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:10 pm

Owain wrote:
12thMan wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
BillyLiar wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Don't agree that anyone should be banned for their opinions, I disagreed big time with his, but he has a right to them.

I can tell you now though, that PMs on any forum software are only able to be read by the sender and recipient.

PM's can be read Barry as they are stored in the server's database. Anyone with access to the server (admin and some mods) are able to read them even if deleted from your inbox. It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.

I dont believe it has happened on here though.

So they can be read? Can a mod confirm or deny this?

I am an admin and a mod and I absolutely can deny this.

No moderator or administrator can read private messages other than their own.


This forum runs on phpBB and Administrators can absolutely read PM's from every user on the forum.

You might not know how to do this. But it can certainly be done.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Definitely not true.
No administrator on a phpbb board can read PMs.

There may be a way of tracing text through the database, but nobody has access to the database. It would mean trawling through hundreds of thousands of text records, and besides, they would be anonymous.


O RLY?

https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=1930245

Like I said mate, I don't think anyone is accusing you guys of doing this.

I just think you leave yourselves open to criticism when you dismiss things, because reading people's PM's is as easy as installing a phpBB MOD.

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Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:13 pm

12thMan wrote:
Owain wrote:
12thMan wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
BillyLiar wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Don't agree that anyone should be banned for their opinions, I disagreed big time with his, but he has a right to them.

I can tell you now though, that PMs on any forum software are only able to be read by the sender and recipient.

PM's can be read Barry as they are stored in the server's database. Anyone with access to the server (admin and some mods) are able to read them even if deleted from your inbox. It is technically an invasion of privacy and could end up with legal action if proved.

I dont believe it has happened on here though.

So they can be read? Can a mod confirm or deny this?

I am an admin and a mod and I absolutely can deny this.

No moderator or administrator can read private messages other than their own.


This forum runs on phpBB and Administrators can absolutely read PM's from every user on the forum.

You might not know how to do this. But it can certainly be done.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Definitely not true.
No administrator on a phpbb board can read PMs.

There may be a way of tracing text through the database, but nobody has access to the database. It would mean trawling through hundreds of thousands of text records, and besides, they would be anonymous.


O RLY?

https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=1930245

Like I said mate, I don't think anyone is accusing you guys of doing this.

I just think you leave yourselves open to criticism when you dismiss things, because reading people's PM's is as easy as installing a phpBB MOD.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

was about to post the same lol

https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/ ... oderation/

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:14 pm

Where has the rumour come from about solicitors might be involved

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:14 pm

12thMan wrote:O RLY?

https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=1930245

Like I said mate, I don't think anyone is accusing you guys of doing this.

I just think you leave yourselves open to criticism when you dismiss things, because reading people's PM's is as easy as installing a phpBB MOD.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I'm dismissing it because we have nothing of the sort on this board.

As I said: there is no way that moderators/administrators of this board can view/edit private messages.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:18 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/ ... oderation/


Maybe I should rephrase it then.

No moderator/administrator on this board is able to view PMs, nor will they ever be able to.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:19 pm

Jinks wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Kenfig Blue wrote:banned for shit stirring haa how childish.


yeah life is harsh. I take exception of someone accusing me of reading other peoples mail. Specially from a God fearing apostle.


So in future if anyone posts some news or story about the club a player or so on and cant back it up will they also be banned for shit stirring?

:happy1: :happy1:

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:20 pm

footynut wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Anyone who believes that the reason Natman Blue has been banned was for saying that someone told him mods could read everyone's PM's is extremely naive, and moderators pretending this is the reason for him being banned are treating all other board members as fools.


I personally don't like being accused of reading other peoples private messages. Would you?


I personally don't like being accused of being a tan lover a red lover etc so on that basis if someone calls me one will they get banned?


apologies to you baked.. just playing devil's advocate didn't realise it had gone as far as solicitors...

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:22 pm

If this is true, Natman should be ashamed of himself.

It's beyond pathetic.

I feel sorry for Carl, Annis, Owain etc who have to put up with this shit.

They provide a platform for us all to discuss CCFC and one idiot tries to ruin it.

I hope he falls down the stairs.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:24 pm

footynut wrote:
footynut wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Anyone who believes that the reason Natman Blue has been banned was for saying that someone told him mods could read everyone's PM's is extremely naive, and moderators pretending this is the reason for him being banned are treating all other board members as fools.


I personally don't like being accused of reading other peoples private messages. Would you?


I personally don't like being accused of being a tan lover a red lover etc so on that basis if someone calls me one will they get banned?


apologies to you baked.. just playing devil's advocate didn't realise it had gone as far as solicitors...


Things have got a bit silly.

However accusing someone of doing something that is morally wrong is a lot more serious than name calling don't you think.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:28 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
footynut wrote:
footynut wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Anyone who believes that the reason Natman Blue has been banned was for saying that someone told him mods could read everyone's PM's is extremely naive, and moderators pretending this is the reason for him being banned are treating all other board members as fools.


I personally don't like being accused of reading other peoples private messages. Would you?


I personally don't like being accused of being a tan lover a red lover etc so on that basis if someone calls me one will they get banned?


apologies to you baked.. just playing devil's advocate didn't realise it had gone as far as solicitors...


Things have got a bit silly.

However accusing someone of doing something that is morally wrong is a lot more serious than name calling don't you think.

hence the apology

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:38 pm

footynut wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
footynut wrote:
footynut wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
NJ73 wrote:Anyone who believes that the reason Natman Blue has been banned was for saying that someone told him mods could read everyone's PM's is extremely naive, and moderators pretending this is the reason for him being banned are treating all other board members as fools.


I personally don't like being accused of reading other peoples private messages. Would you?


I personally don't like being accused of being a tan lover a red lover etc so on that basis if someone calls me one will they get banned?


apologies to you baked.. just playing devil's advocate didn't realise it had gone as far as solicitors...


Things have got a bit silly.

However accusing someone of doing something that is morally wrong is a lot more serious than name calling don't you think.

hence the apology


Thank you.

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:43 pm

Carl ( and everybody else ) you have PM

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:57 pm

Some of the mods on here can't even read full stop. :lol:

Re: Where has Natman Blue gone

Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:58 pm

I think my PM have been infiltrated. You and everyone hasn't replied Carl ?