Ole has to take responsbility for our likely relegation

I some times think they brought fantasy island back for us in the premier league
oh look boss(malky)the plane (fist pump)

As I have posted previously on the forum many times.

Tan should take most of the responsibility and Ole with the home games he had available had without a doubt the opportunity
to keep us up, West Ham, Norwich C, Aston Villa,Hull C,Fulham,Crystal Palace and still Stoke to play, all winnable games.

Sadly Ole failed and sadly its a fact and yes it hurts.

Annis you correct when you see the home games Ole had to play against nobody can argue that he had a good chance of getting the points but he has failed to do so.

Malky and ole take the blame together as far as I am concerned. Malky never addressed the striking problem from the previous season and you could also argue he had the easier away games to get something from.
After two transfer windows we were still a championship squad in my opinion and I will go as far as to say that our championship team pre Xmas last year would have beat yesterday's team comfortably

Steve I think most people will believe that 10 wins in the Premier League would be the position to build a fight to survive from, and those 10 wins you expect the majority to come at home.

Under Malky we beat 3 sides at home, Man City, Swansea, WBA out of 9 games played.

We drew against Everton, Man Utd.

Lost narrowly to Spurs and Newcastle and got beaten convincingly by Arsenal and Southampton.

Away from home had we got 10 wins over the season then another 6-7 points on the road would probably be enough to survive.

We took 6 points under Malky away from home, we beat Fulham and drew with Hull, Norwich and Stoke.

Looking at the games we had left at home after Malky was sacked, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Villa, Hull, Fulham, Palace, Stoke I was confident we would get the necessary wins to stay up.

That is not even possibly taking another single point out of the remaining away games he had left.

So to sum up Malky in my opinion would have kept us up.

Ole had the players and the team but is failing badly.

The thing not being allowed for here Carl is for the first few games we were a surprise package until there was enough play time for other coaches to suss us out. You name Everton and spurs but in both games we were outclassed and had Marshall to thank for the point against Everton.
We had been exposed well before Malky was sacked as our only threats were from set pieces and from the 75th minute onwards we were defending from our penalty box with no threat going forward.
Malky was an excuse to beat tan with at the time and in my opinion the week of the stoke and palace games showed me were not good enough to survive in the premier league.
Malky takes a large part of the blame for his bad transfer dealings regarding getting in a quality striker and ole takes his share for not being able to pick a settled team and tinkering to much with selection week to week.
Tan if he stays needs to bring in a director of football to run the football side unhindered which means stopping his son from having a say in who comes in because I'm convinced Zaha is only at the club because of his interference.

As I have posted previously on the forum many times.

Tan should take most of the responsibility and Ole with the home games he had available had without a doubt the opportunity
to keep us up, West Ham, Norwich C, Aston Villa,Hull C,Fulham,Crystal Palace and still Stoke to play, all winnable games.

Sadly Ole failed and sadly its a fact and yes it hurts.

So you're not putting any blame at all on malky???? what about the £50 million he totally blew in the transfer market???? he never addressed the obvious problem of bringing in a premiership striker that we were crying out for. In my opinion everyone involved in the club has to take a little responsibility, from moody, malky, ole to the clowns in the board room.

As I have posted previously on the forum many times.

Tan should take most of the responsibility and Ole with the home games he had available had without a doubt the opportunity
to keep us up, West Ham, Norwich C, Aston Villa,Hull C,Fulham,Crystal Palace and still Stoke to play, all winnable games.

Sadly Ole failed and sadly its a fact and yes it hurts.

Malky is blameless then...
poppycock !!!!!


Tan Ole Dalman Malky all have played their parts and all shoulder some blame.
Some more than others.

Steve I think most people will believe that 10 wins in the Premier League would be the position to build a fight to survive from, and those 10 wins you expect the majority to come at home.

Under Malky we beat 3 sides at home, Man City, Swansea, WBA out of 9 games played.

We drew against Everton, Man Utd.

Lost narrowly to Spurs and Newcastle and got beaten convincingly by Arsenal and Southampton.

Away from home had we got 10 wins over the season then another 6-7 points on the road would probably be enough to survive.

We took 6 points under Malky away from home, we beat Fulham and drew with Hull, Norwich and Stoke.

Looking at the games we had left at home after Malky was sacked, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Villa, Hull, Fulham, Palace, Stoke I was confident we would get the necessary wins to stay up.

That is not even possibly taking another single point out of the remaining away games he had left.

So to sum up Malky in my opinion would have kept us up.

Ole had the players and the team but is failing badly.

Good post that.

As I have posted previously on the forum many times.

Tan should take most of the responsibility and Ole with the home games he had available had without a doubt the opportunity
to keep us up, West Ham, Norwich C, Aston Villa,Hull C,Fulham,Crystal Palace and still Stoke to play, all winnable games.

Sadly Ole failed and sadly its a fact and yes it hurts.

Annis you correct when you see the home games Ole had to play against nobody can argue that he had a good chance of getting the points but he has failed to do so.

Malky and ole take the blame together as far as I am concerned. Malky never addressed the striking problem from the previous season and you could also argue he had the easier away games to get something from.
After two transfer windows we were still a championship squad in my opinion and I will go as far as to say that our championship team pre Xmas last year would have beat yesterday's team comfortably

Steve I think most people will believe that 10 wins in the Premier League would be the position to build a fight to survive from, and those 10 wins you expect the majority to come at home.

Under Malky we beat 3 sides at home, Man City, Swansea, WBA out of 9 games played.

We drew against Everton, Man Utd.

Lost narrowly to Spurs and Newcastle and got beaten convincingly by Arsenal and Southampton.

Away from home had we got 10 wins over the season then another 6-7 points on the road would probably be enough to survive.

We took 6 points under Malky away from home, we beat Fulham and drew with Hull, Norwich and Stoke.

Looking at the games we had left at home after Malky was sacked, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Villa, Hull, Fulham, Palace, Stoke I was confident we would get the necessary wins to stay up.

That is not even possibly taking another single point out of the remaining away games he had left.

So to sum up Malky in my opinion would have kept us up.

Ole had the players and the team but is failing badly.

The thing not being allowed for here Carl is for the first few games we were a surprise package until there was enough play time for other coaches to suss us out. You name Everton and spurs but in both games we were outclassed and had Marshall to thank for the point against Everton.
We had been exposed well before Malky was sacked as our only threats were from set pieces and from the 75th minute onwards we were defending from our penalty box with no threat going forward.
Malky was an excuse to beat tan with at the time and in my opinion the week of the stoke and palace games showed me were not good enough to survive in the premier league.
Malky takes a large part of the blame for his bad transfer dealings regarding getting in a quality striker and ole takes his share for not being able to pick a settled team and tinkering to much with selection week to week.
Tan if he stays needs to bring in a director of football to run the football side unhindered which means stopping his son from having a say in who comes in because I'm convinced Zaha is only at the club because of his interference.

Great post steve.

As I have posted previously on the forum many times.

Tan should take most of the responsibility and Ole with the home games he had available had without a doubt the opportunity
to keep us up, West Ham, Norwich C, Aston Villa,Hull C,Fulham,Crystal Palace and still Stoke to play, all winnable games.

Sadly Ole failed and sadly its a fact and yes it hurts.

Annis you correct when you see the home games Ole had to play against nobody can argue that he had a good chance of getting the points but he has failed to do so.

Malky and ole take the blame together as far as I am concerned. Malky never addressed the striking problem from the previous season and you could also argue he had the easier away games to get something from.
After two transfer windows we were still a championship squad in my opinion and I will go as far as to say that our championship team pre Xmas last year would have beat yesterday's team comfortably

Steve I think most people will believe that 10 wins in the Premier League would be the position to build a fight to survive from, and those 10 wins you expect the majority to come at home.

Under Malky we beat 3 sides at home, Man City, Swansea, WBA out of 9 games played.

We drew against Everton, Man Utd.

Lost narrowly to Spurs and Newcastle and got beaten convincingly by Arsenal and Southampton.

Away from home had we got 10 wins over the season then another 6-7 points on the road would probably be enough to survive.

We took 6 points under Malky away from home, we beat Fulham and drew with Hull, Norwich and Stoke.

Looking at the games we had left at home after Malky was sacked, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Villa, Hull, Fulham, Palace, Stoke I was confident we would get the necessary wins to stay up.

That is not even possibly taking another single point out of the remaining away games he had left.

So to sum up Malky in my opinion would have kept us up.

Ole had the players and the team but is failing badly.

The thing not being allowed for here Carl is for the first few games we were a surprise package until there was enough play time for other coaches to suss us out. You name Everton and spurs but in both games we were outclassed and had Marshall to thank for the point against Everton.
We had been exposed well before Malky was sacked as our only threats were from set pieces and from the 75th minute onwards we were defending from our penalty box with no threat going forward.
Malky was an excuse to beat tan with at the time and in my opinion the week of the stoke and palace games showed me were not good enough to survive in the premier league.
Malky takes a large part of the blame for his bad transfer dealings regarding getting in a quality striker and ole takes his share for not being able to pick a settled team and tinkering to much with selection week to week.
Tan if he stays needs to bring in a director of football to run the football side unhindered which means stopping his son from having a say in who comes in because I'm convinced Zaha is only at the club because of his interference.

Steve, Was not MR TINKERMAN not a surprise package v West Ham, Swansea, Hull City ?

Steve I think most people will believe that 10 wins in the Premier League would be the position to build a fight to survive from, and those 10 wins you expect the majority to come at home.

Under Malky we beat 3 sides at home, Man City, Swansea, WBA out of 9 games played.

We drew against Everton, Man Utd.

Lost narrowly to Spurs and Newcastle and got beaten convincingly by Arsenal and Southampton.

Away from home had we got 10 wins over the season then another 6-7 points on the road would probably be enough to survive.

We took 6 points under Malky away from home, we beat Fulham and drew with Hull, Norwich and Stoke.

Looking at the games we had left at home after Malky was sacked, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Villa, Hull, Fulham, Palace, Stoke I was confident we would get the necessary wins to stay up.

That is not even possibly taking another single point out of the remaining away games he had left.

So to sum up Malky in my opinion would have kept us up.

Ole had the players and the team but is failing badly.

Good post that.

Cheers ROATHIE

Everyone is to blame.

malky, tan, ole, players and fans. We all played some part in this season and we all fucked it up.

the writing was on the wall from the beginning

Ole had a championship team with Medel and caulker slipped in, so no he did not have the players, he had Malkys dregs

So the question is Annis and Carl. Will you give Ole time like you gave Malky?

Sadly Ole talks a good game but cant back it up.

If Ole is our manager next season I will fully back him, but that does not mean I agree that he is the right man Craig as I dont agree, which is my opinion, but he has my full support and the team as always

Exactly Annis!! You support the team and the manager of the moment. Just get rid of this stupid club identity switch and maybe everyone will song from the same hymn sheet once more.

Be interesting to see how much support we have in the stands if we go
down. Maybe Tan will realise the less who turn up, the more will be true blue!!
Or is he planning on alienating the core of our supporters even more?

Perhaps he'd be happy if we had only reds turning up!

As I have posted previously on the forum many times.

Tan should take most of the responsibility and Ole with the home games he had available had without a doubt the opportunity
to keep us up, West Ham, Norwich C, Aston Villa,Hull C,Fulham,Crystal Palace and still Stoke to play, all winnable games.

Sadly Ole failed and sadly its a fact and yes it hurts.

Annis you correct when you see the home games Ole had to play against nobody can argue that he had a good chance of getting the points but he has failed to do so.

Malky and ole take the blame together as far as I am concerned. Malky never addressed the striking problem from the previous season and you could also argue he had the easier away games to get something from.
After two transfer windows we were still a championship squad in my opinion and I will go as far as to say that our championship team pre Xmas last year would have beat yesterday's team comfortably

Steve I think most people will believe that 10 wins in the Premier League would be the position to build a fight to survive from, and those 10 wins you expect the majority to come at home.

Under Malky we beat 3 sides at home, Man City, Swansea, WBA out of 9 games played.

We drew against Everton, Man Utd.

Lost narrowly to Spurs and Newcastle and got beaten convincingly by Arsenal and Southampton.

Away from home had we got 10 wins over the season then another 6-7 points on the road would probably be enough to survive.

We took 6 points under Malky away from home, we beat Fulham and drew with Hull, Norwich and Stoke.

Looking at the games we had left at home after Malky was sacked, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Villa, Hull, Fulham, Palace, Stoke I was confident we would get the necessary wins to stay up.

That is not even possibly taking another single point out of the remaining away games he had left.

So to sum up Malky in my opinion would have kept us up.

Ole had the players and the team but is failing badly.

The thing not being allowed for here Carl is for the first few games we were a surprise package until there was enough play time for other coaches to suss us out. You name Everton and spurs but in both games we were outclassed and had Marshall to thank for the point against Everton.
We had been exposed well before Malky was sacked as our only threats were from set pieces and from the 75th minute onwards we were defending from our penalty box with no threat going forward.
Malky was an excuse to beat tan with at the time and in my opinion the week of the stoke and palace games showed me were not good enough to survive in the premier league.
Malky takes a large part of the blame for his bad transfer dealings regarding getting in a quality striker and ole takes his share for not being able to pick a settled team and tinkering to much with selection week to week.
Tan if he stays needs to bring in a director of football to run the football side unhindered which means stopping his son from having a say in who comes in because I'm convinced Zaha is only at the club because of his interference.

Steve, Was not MR TINKERMAN not a surprise package v West Ham, Swansea, Hull City ?

Don't understand what your getting at annis I have already Said his continual tinkering with the side every week is partly responsible for us going down. I will always give Malky his share of the blame as we were crying out for an experienced striker and he failed to bring him in as well as paying 8.5 million for a player who was valued at two million euros six weeks before we bought him.
Tan and Mehmet take their share as well for pinning their hopes on ole and not looking at other options available with more experience.
Nobody is blameless within the club and all of the above have played a significant part in our down fall.

As I have posted previously on the forum many times.

Tan should take most of the responsibility and Ole with the home games he had available had without a doubt the opportunity
to keep us up, West Ham, Norwich C, Aston Villa,Hull C,Fulham,Crystal Palace and still Stoke to play, all winnable games.

Sadly Ole failed and sadly its a fact and yes it hurts.

Annis you correct when you see the home games Ole had to play against nobody can argue that he had a good chance of getting the points but he has failed to do so.

Malky and ole take the blame together as far as I am concerned. Malky never addressed the striking problem from the previous season and you could also argue he had the easier away games to get something from.
After two transfer windows we were still a championship squad in my opinion and I will go as far as to say that our championship team pre Xmas last year would have beat yesterday's team comfortably

Steve I think most people will believe that 10 wins in the Premier League would be the position to build a fight to survive from, and those 10 wins you expect the majority to come at home.

Under Malky we beat 3 sides at home, Man City, Swansea, WBA out of 9 games played.

We drew against Everton, Man Utd.

Lost narrowly to Spurs and Newcastle and got beaten convincingly by Arsenal and Southampton.

Away from home had we got 10 wins over the season then another 6-7 points on the road would probably be enough to survive.

We took 6 points under Malky away from home, we beat Fulham and drew with Hull, Norwich and Stoke.

Looking at the games we had left at home after Malky was sacked, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Villa, Hull, Fulham, Palace, Stoke I was confident we would get the necessary wins to stay up.

That is not even possibly taking another single point out of the remaining away games he had left.

So to sum up Malky in my opinion would have kept us up.

Ole had the players and the team but is failing badly.

The thing not being allowed for here Carl is for the first few games we were a surprise package until there was enough play time for other coaches to suss us out. You name Everton and spurs but in both games we were outclassed and had Marshall to thank for the point against Everton.
We had been exposed well before Malky was sacked as our only threats were from set pieces and from the 75th minute onwards we were defending from our penalty box with no threat going forward.
Malky was an excuse to beat tan with at the time and in my opinion the week of the stoke and palace games showed me were not good enough to survive in the premier league.
Malky takes a large part of the blame for his bad transfer dealings regarding getting in a quality striker and ole takes his share for not being able to pick a settled team and tinkering to much with selection week to week.
Tan if he stays needs to bring in a director of football to run the football side unhindered which means stopping his son from having a say in who comes in because I'm convinced Zaha is only at the club because of his interference.

Steve, Was not MR TINKERMAN not a surprise package v West Ham, Swansea, Hull City ?

Don't understand what your getting at annis I have already Said his continual tinkering with the side every week is partly responsible for us going down. I will always give Malky his share of the blame as we were crying out for an experienced striker and he failed to bring him in as well as paying 8.5 million for a player who was valued at two million euros six weeks before we bought him.
Tan and Mehmet take their share as well for pinning their hopes on ole and not looking at other options available with more experience.
Nobody is blameless within the club and all of the above have played a significant part in our down fall.

Sorry I thought u did not blame Tinkerman, I misread.

I fully respect your post, many within our club from the Top to the bottom have to take responsibility for what has happened this season.

As I have posted previously on the forum many times.

Tan should take most of the responsibility and Ole with the home games he had available had without a doubt the opportunity
to keep us up, West Ham, Norwich C, Aston Villa,Hull C,Fulham,Crystal Palace and still Stoke to play, all winnable games.

Sadly Ole failed and sadly its a fact and yes it hurts.

Annis you correct when you see the home games Ole had to play against nobody can argue that he had a good chance of getting the points but he has failed to do so.

Malky and ole take the blame together as far as I am concerned. Malky never addressed the striking problem from the previous season and you could also argue he had the easier away games to get something from.
After two transfer windows we were still a championship squad in my opinion and I will go as far as to say that our championship team pre Xmas last year would have beat yesterday's team comfortably

Steve I think most people will believe that 10 wins in the Premier League would be the position to build a fight to survive from, and those 10 wins you expect the majority to come at home.

Under Malky we beat 3 sides at home, Man City, Swansea, WBA out of 9 games played.

We drew against Everton, Man Utd.

Lost narrowly to Spurs and Newcastle and got beaten convincingly by Arsenal and Southampton.

Away from home had we got 10 wins over the season then another 6-7 points on the road would probably be enough to survive.

We took 6 points under Malky away from home, we beat Fulham and drew with Hull, Norwich and Stoke.

Looking at the games we had left at home after Malky was sacked, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Villa, Hull, Fulham, Palace, Stoke I was confident we would get the necessary wins to stay up.

That is not even possibly taking another single point out of the remaining away games he had left.

So to sum up Malky in my opinion would have kept us up.

Ole had the players and the team but is failing badly.

The thing not being allowed for here Carl is for the first few games we were a surprise package until there was enough play time for other coaches to suss us out. You name Everton and spurs but in both games we were outclassed and had Marshall to thank for the point against Everton.
We had been exposed well before Malky was sacked as our only threats were from set pieces and from the 75th minute onwards we were defending from our penalty box with no threat going forward.
Malky was an excuse to beat tan with at the time and in my opinion the week of the stoke and palace games showed me were not good enough to survive in the premier league.
Malky takes a large part of the blame for his bad transfer dealings regarding getting in a quality striker and ole takes his share for not being able to pick a settled team and tinkering to much with selection week to week.
Tan if he stays needs to bring in a director of football to run the football side unhindered which means stopping his son from having a say in who comes in because I'm convinced Zaha is only at the club because of his interference.

Steve, Was not MR TINKERMAN not a surprise package v West Ham, Swansea, Hull City ?

Don't understand what your getting at annis I have already Said his continual tinkering with the side every week is partly responsible for us going down. I will always give Malky his share of the blame as we were crying out for an experienced striker and he failed to bring him in as well as paying 8.5 million for a player who was valued at two million euros six weeks before we bought him.
Tan and Mehmet take their share as well for pinning their hopes on ole and not looking at other options available with more experience.
Nobody is blameless within the club and all of the above have played a significant part in our down fall.

Personally I feel there is no defence for the striker signings of Malky. Acorn was a big mistake and in fairness to Malky he admitted that after a few games. When he did you could see in his expression it was curtains for him. He needed to get someone in January but it was very clear Tan was not going to support him. I wonder if Tan will do the same to Ole if the situation arises next campaign.

Imagine thinking a draw against Villa(one of the best away sides in the Prem) isn't good enough

Everyone is to blame.

malky, tan, ole, players and fans. We all played some part in this season and we all fucked it up.

It all comes down to Tan.He started this stupid re'brand thing.Which split the fan base.That caused bad feeling in the crowd.The atmosphere was affected by this'and so all this filtered down to the players.Then Tan started his stupidity with Malky and the players bonuses.His replacing Moody with an unqualified painter that did'nt even have a work permit.I could go on and on.The ones who are not to blame (even the ones gullible enough to swallow his bullshit)are the fans.To reunite the whole club'and save his rapidly deminishing reputation'he must admit his mistakes and return our identity.Prove yourself a man Vincent.Do the right thing.

So the question is Annis and Carl. Will you give Ole time like you gave Malky?

Sadly Ole talks a good game but cant back it up.

If Ole is our manager next season I will fully back him, but that does not mean I agree that he is the right man Craig as I dont agree, which is my opinion, but he has my full support and the team as always

I'm not saying whether Ole is the right man or not but let's not forget that he inherited a bunch of players short on Premier League quality strikers, with a negative, defensive mindset who were above the relegation zone only on points difference. Ole had Arsenal, Man City and Man Utd away in his first four games. Had Malky been in charge for those games he would also have taken us into the bottom three. Ole also had very little to spend in january and failed to land a quality striker. It was always going to be very difficult for him to turn things around given those circumstances and very little time to do it in.

As I have posted previously on the forum many times.

Tan should take most of the responsibility and Ole with the home games he had available had without a doubt the opportunity
to keep us up, West Ham, Norwich C, Aston Villa,Hull C,Fulham,Crystal Palace and still Stoke to play, all winnable games.

Sadly Ole failed and sadly its a fact and yes it hurts.

Annis you correct when you see the home games Ole had to play against nobody can argue that he had a good chance of getting the points but he has failed to do so.

Malky and ole take the blame together as far as I am concerned. Malky never addressed the striking problem from the previous season and you could also argue he had the easier away games to get something from.
After two transfer windows we were still a championship squad in my opinion and I will go as far as to say that our championship team pre Xmas last year would have beat yesterday's team comfortably

Steve I think most people will believe that 10 wins in the Premier League would be the position to build a fight to survive from, and those 10 wins you expect the majority to come at home.

Under Malky we beat 3 sides at home, Man City, Swansea, WBA out of 9 games played.

We drew against Everton, Man Utd.

Lost narrowly to Spurs and Newcastle and got beaten convincingly by Arsenal and Southampton.

Away from home had we got 10 wins over the season then another 6-7 points on the road would probably be enough to survive.

We took 6 points under Malky away from home, we beat Fulham and drew with Hull, Norwich and Stoke.

Looking at the games we had left at home after Malky was sacked, Sunderland, West Ham, Norwich, Villa, Hull, Fulham, Palace, Stoke I was confident we would get the necessary wins to stay up.

That is not even possibly taking another single point out of the remaining away games he had left.

So to sum up Malky in my opinion would have kept us up.

Ole had the players and the team but is failing badly.

The thing not being allowed for here Carl is for the first few games we were a surprise package until there was enough play time for other coaches to suss us out. You name Everton and spurs but in both games we were outclassed and had Marshall to thank for the point against Everton.
We had been exposed well before Malky was sacked as our only threats were from set pieces and from the 75th minute onwards we were defending from our penalty box with no threat going forward.
Malky was an excuse to beat tan with at the time and in my opinion the week of the stoke and palace games showed me were not good enough to survive in the premier league.
Malky takes a large part of the blame for his bad transfer dealings regarding getting in a quality striker and ole takes his share for not being able to pick a settled team and tinkering to much with selection week to week.
Tan if he stays needs to bring in a director of football to run the football side unhindered which means stopping his son from having a say in who comes in because I'm convinced Zaha is only at the club because of his interference.

Steve, Was not MR TINKERMAN not a surprise package v West Ham, Swansea, Hull City ?

Okay for you to call Ole Mr Tinkerman but we're not allowed to call the Scottish messiah 'Milky'

Everyone is to blame.

malky, tan, ole, players and fans. We all played some part in this season and we all fucked it up.

It all comes down to Tan.He started this stupid re'brand thing.Which split the fan base.That caused bad feeling in the crowd.The atmosphere was affected by this'and so all this filtered down to the players.Then Tan started his stupidity with Malky and the players bonuses.His replacing Moody with an unqualified painter that did'nt even have a work permit.I could go on and on.The ones who are not to blame (even the ones gullible enough to swallow his bullshit)are the fans.To reunite the whole club'and save his rapidly deminishing reputation'he must admit his mistakes and return our identity.Prove yourself a man Vincent.Do the right thing.

Why didnt it affect the players last season then?

I can't quite understand people talking about our winnable home games against the likes of West Ham, Hull, Crystal Palace, Stoke etc. How were they winnable when we are talking about teams that are superior to us. For most of the season, it has become obvious that there are 18 or 19 teams better than us in this league. Malky spent a lot of money on players, without really improving much on what we already had. Our most consistent performers this season were already here when we were in the championship. This team is not premiership quality, and I doubt if we will be able to make the play offs next season. I don't think anyone could have kept us up this season, but MM should at least have had the opportunity to be given the chance. In all probability, we will finish bottom of the table because there are 19 teams in this division with better players than we have.

The football might not have been the best under Malky but we would never have been embarrassed like we have against Hull and Palace at home. To be outplayed by teams below or around us so comprehensively and for the players to so such a lack of desire hurts me so much and shows they couldn't give a shit about Cardiff City. It probably doesn't help that we have never played the same team twice under Ole but as soon as I saw the line up yesterday I really felt we were not going to win

The football might not have been the best under Malky but we would never have been embarrassed like we have against Hull and Palace at home. To be outplayed by teams below or around us so comprehensively and for the players to so such a lack of desire hurts me so much and shows they couldn't give a shit about Cardiff City. It probably doesn't help that we have never played the same team twice under Ole but as soon as I saw the line up yesterday I really felt we were not going to win

Yup, we weren't embarrassed to Newcastle, West Ham or Southampton

Everyone is to blame.

malky, tan, ole, players and fans. We all played some part in this season and we all fucked it up.

Spot on. Not good enough at every level.

Craig they only gave malky time as showing support of malky was the only way they could get back at tanover the rebrand
Imo if there had been no rebrand they would of joined me in calling for malky to go after the stoke away game
They dont wont toshow support of ole becouse hes tans man hmmmmmmmmm

Steve, your 100% wrong regarding me on this.

Annis palace ripped us apart at their place under malky and could/should have had a few more we were rubbish at villa and woefull at stoke but did you make threads saying clueless and so on?

I think the useless cunts who kept chanting about Tan/being blue instead of cheering their f*cking team on play a large part of it.

If you kept moaning about our bloody colour rather than supporting our club, you deserve the relegation in my eyes. Just get on with it during the match and keep your bitter opinions before/after the games, not during them.

I think the useless cunts who kept chanting about Tan/being blue instead of cheering their f*cking team on play a large part of it.

If you kept moaning about our bloody colour rather than supporting our club, you deserve the relegation in my eyes. Just get on with it during the match and keep your bitter opinions before/after the games, not during them.

Just roll over and take it during matches is it? Blue supporters are to blame? Get on with what exactly during the match?

Matches are the most public forum for blue supporters to show their feelings in a way that doesn't interfere with the game on the pitch. I take it that we are all mute for the rest of the match? Blue supporters have been extremely loyal, especially at away matches.

It isn't just about being blue. It's about not capitulating when you know your club is being spoiled by bad decisions and interference from clueless boss men. By the way, Tan should have known Malky was overspending so it doesn't say much about his business acumen to have to sack him in retrospect.

Malky was doing ok but I got behind the new manager, despite his ill-advised comments which were, in my opinion, scripted by Mr. Big: "I would like us to finish above Swansea. They've almost gone forward as a little bit of a role model, Southampton as well - they're the clubs I've looked at and seen what they've done over the last few years. "But let's make sure we get above Swansea. I know that will be important for everyone here."

What the hell was that about? What if we had beaten the Jacks but they were in 20th position so we went down too? Empty victory due to obsession with others. We have our own club with its own history and traditions. Let's keep our own council.

Annis palace ripped us apart at their place under malky and could/should have had a few more we were rubbish at villa and woefull at stoke but did you make threads saying clueless and so on?

We did well at a Villa until their wonder strike & got a point at Stoke... Many bigger and better clubs have lost there this season.

Annis palace ripped us apart at their place under malky and could/should have had a few more we were rubbish at villa and woefull at stoke but did you make threads saying clueless and so on?

We did well at a Villa until their wonder strike & got a point at Stoke... Many bigger and better clubs have lost there this season.

What was the stats for that game?

Cardiff City boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer vows to ditch 'dissenting' players who defied his instructions during sorry Crystal Palace defeat

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has accused some of Cardiff City’s players of going against his instructions as the Bluebirds’ Premier League survival hopes were crushed by Crystal Palace.

And the furious Cardiff manager insisted he will ditch the dissenters come next week’s clash with Southampton, claiming he is not ready to give up on the club’s relegation battle just yet.

Solskjaer’s barb at the team came as his Bluebirds surrendered any reasonable chance of pulling off a great escape front when Tony Pulis’ Palace eased to a 3-0 victory at Cardiff City Stadium.

The result leaves Cardiff six points adrift with just five games to go. Three of them are away, to Southampton, Sunderland and Newcastle, with Stoke and Chelsea still to visit the Welsh capital.

The Bluebirds boss admitted a season blighted by controversy has taken its toll on his players, but let slip he had been upset by what he hinted was some of them going off-message at such a critical time.

Asked if he thought he had the players good enough and with the confidence to keep on fighting, Solskjaer said: “Yes, most of them. The ones that are going to be involved. The ones I will pick will have belief in them, don’t worry about that. I need players with calmness, belief, leadership and...loyalty.”

Asked whether his emphasis on the word loyalty suggested he had been upset by something, Solskjaer replied: “Yes. In training and in games you have plans, you have strategies and you follow them, okay?”
The Cardiff chief did not go into detail or name players he was angry with. Asked what his reaction was in the dressing room, he stated: “That is between us. That is in the dressing room and won’t come out of the dressing room.”

But Solskjaer did admit he will have a difficult job in picking up his players for the matches left, with hope of keeping the club’s top-flight status seemingly lost. He admitted a season which has seen protests against the owner and the controversial sacking of Malky Mackay has taken its toll mentally on players and fans alike.

But Solskjaer insisted insist he as manager – and not under-performing players – will shoulder the blame for a wretched run of results.

“I take full responsibility for every single thing that happened out there,” said Solskjaer. “If players are making mistakes, it is me coaching them every single day, I am responsible for their performances.”

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ar-6926642?

That's interesting to read