IT'S BEEN EMOTIONAL BUT......

All I will say is that people I know who had talked to people from inside the club who were very very close to Tan said that as a result of the backlash during the rebrand he was close to walking. Now if he had gone then that would have been the end of us so in my view that is red or dead.

You might not believe me but I have no reason to doubt the guy who told me.

Walking away from £40m quid cos his feelings were hurt, I dont think so.

He has shown time again the fans feelings dont matter a jot, it was all mind games, and he played a blinder, along with the help of certain supporters.

As I said, its what I was told.

back to this shit again. Is there real evidence to back up your claims? i don't understand the pro-reds at times, would you wear a wetsuit and wellies to work everyday if the weather man forecast a 0.5 percent chance of rain?

All I will say is that people I know who had talked to people from inside the club who were very very close to Tan said that as a result of the backlash during the rebrand he was close to walking. Now if he had gone then that would have been the end of us so in my view that is red or dead.

You might not believe me but I have no reason to doubt the guy who told me.

You doubt every other person on here when it suits you.You are oblivious to rendering yourself complete laughing stock on here.
Why dont you go to school and try and learn something useful.

Been to school, was very successful too. Got degrees and post grads to show for it so don't need the insults thank you!

I'd also disagree in regards to being a laughing stock as there are a number of people who are of the same opinion as me who both agree within threads or via pm./ There are also those who see the views I am expressing and can rationally debate and discuss them without resorting to some of the tactics here.

Yes, I doubt what a lot of people say on here because it is based on rumour, suggestion and people claiming to be itk. When the fact of the matter is that people will put out there what they want regardless of the consequences because its suits their own personal vendettas. I can see through it, and there are a few others here too. Shame those who can't feel the need to insult, abuse and bash anyone with a different opinion. Take a few threads I've been part of the last 3 days as an example; people who present an opposing view and who aren't willing to bash Tan at every opportunity have been insulted for their names, their faith, their attendance at away games and apparently now their education.

Which leads me on to another thing which I don't get. The abuse I see day in and day out on this message board constantly comes from the anti-red brigade. But the anti-red brigade are the ones who constantly claim they have received said abuse and intimidation. Well I can't see it! I have heard stories of what happened in the Muni from people who I would trust and ok, maybe I accept that happened, but the waves of abuse I see on here are going the opposite way.

Let not get confused; ok we have different opinions but at the end of the day we all support the one same club. We don't need to fight each other. And don't give me all that rubbish that Tan has made fan turn on fan, he hasn't! Many people will say the divides were there before and you can see it if you go back to the disagreements over Ridsdale and Dave Jones. But that, to a degree, is irrelevant as Tan doesn't put the insults and vitriol into peoples mouths that I see on here day in and day out. That is all your own individual choices. Differences of opinion can bee expressed and discussed rationally without stooping to altering other people's posts, insulting, belittling etc etc.

Time for a large degree of the fan base to move out of school yard politics! But I guess this call for rational discussions will receive yet more abuse!

All I will say is that people I know who had talked to people from inside the club who were very very close to Tan said that as a result of the backlash during the rebrand he was close to walking. Now if he had gone then that would have been the end of us so in my view that is red or dead.

You might not believe me but I have no reason to doubt the guy who told me.

You doubt every other person on here when it suits you.You are oblivious to rendering yourself complete laughing stock on here.
Why dont you go to school and try and learn something useful.

Been to school, was very successful too. Got degrees and post grads to show for it so don't need the insults thank you!

I'd also disagree in regards to being a laughing stock as there are a number of people who are of the same opinion as me who both agree within threads or via pm./ There are also those who see the views I am expressing and can rationally debate and discuss them without resorting to some of the tactics here.

What are your qualifications in?

Yes, I doubt what a lot of people say on here because it is based on rumour, suggestion and people claiming to be itk. When the fact of the matter is that people will put out there what they want regardless of the consequences because its suits their own personal vendettas. I can see through it, and there are a few others here too. Shame those who can't feel the need to insult, abuse and bash anyone with a different opinion. Take a few threads I've been part of the last 3 days as an example; people who present an opposing view and who aren't willing to bash Tan at every opportunity have been insulted for their names, their faith, their attendance at away games and apparently now their education.

Which leads me on to another thing which I don't get. The abuse I see day in and day out on this message board constantly comes from the anti-red brigade. But the anti-red brigade are the ones who constantly claim they have received said abuse and intimidation. Well I can't see it! I have heard stories of what happened in the Muni from people who I would trust and ok, maybe I accept that happened, but the waves of abuse I see on here are going the opposite way.

Let not get confused; ok we have different opinions but at the end of the day we all support the one same club. We don't need to fight each other. And don't give me all that rubbish that Tan has made fan turn on fan, he hasn't! Many people will say the divides were there before and you can see it if you go back to the disagreements over Ridsdale and Dave Jones. But that, to a degree, is irrelevant as Tan doesn't put the insults and vitriol into peoples mouths that I see on here day in and day out. That is all your own individual choices. Differences of opinion can bee expressed and discussed rationally without stooping to altering other people's posts, insulting, belittling etc etc.

Time for a large degree of the fan base to move out of school yard politics! But I guess this call for rational discussions will receive yet more abuse!

All I will say is that people I know who had talked to people from inside the club who were very very close to Tan said that as a result of the backlash during the rebrand he was close to walking. Now if he had gone then that would have been the end of us so in my view that is red or dead.

You might not believe me but I have no reason to doubt the guy who told me.

You doubt every other person on here when it suits you.You are oblivious to rendering yourself complete laughing stock on here.
Why dont you go to school and try and learn something useful.

Been to school, was very successful too. Got degrees and post grads to show for it so don't need the insults thank you!

I'd also disagree in regards to being a laughing stock as there are a number of people who are of the same opinion as me who both agree within threads or via pm./ There are also those who see the views I am expressing and can rationally debate and discuss them without resorting to some of the tactics here.

What are your qualifications in?

Yes, I doubt what a lot of people say on here because it is based on rumour, suggestion and people claiming to be itk. When the fact of the matter is that people will put out there what they want regardless of the consequences because its suits their own personal vendettas. I can see through it, and there are a few others here too. Shame those who can't feel the need to insult, abuse and bash anyone with a different opinion. Take a few threads I've been part of the last 3 days as an example; people who present an opposing view and who aren't willing to bash Tan at every opportunity have been insulted for their names, their faith, their attendance at away games and apparently now their education.

Which leads me on to another thing which I don't get. The abuse I see day in and day out on this message board constantly comes from the anti-red brigade. But the anti-red brigade are the ones who constantly claim they have received said abuse and intimidation. Well I can't see it! I have heard stories of what happened in the Muni from people who I would trust and ok, maybe I accept that happened, but the waves of abuse I see on here are going the opposite way.

Let not get confused; ok we have different opinions but at the end of the day we all support the one same club. We don't need to fight each other. And don't give me all that rubbish that Tan has made fan turn on fan, he hasn't! Many people will say the divides were there before and you can see it if you go back to the disagreements over Ridsdale and Dave Jones. But that, to a degree, is irrelevant as Tan doesn't put the insults and vitriol into peoples mouths that I see on here day in and day out. That is all your own individual choices. Differences of opinion can bee expressed and discussed rationally without stooping to altering other people's posts, insulting, belittling etc etc.

Time for a large degree of the fan base to move out of school yard politics! But I guess this call for rational discussions will receive yet more abuse!

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

More hypocrisy from Natman Red... Refuses to believe gossip when it doesn't fit his pro rebrand ideas, yet as soon as he hears something that does, he has no reason not to believe it.

:lol:

I'm gonna have to bail on you.
Off to the states this week so going to be far to busy with work to come on here and chat to you lovely people.Hopefully I'll be back safe and sound ready for next season and with a bit of luck we'll still be in the premier.

I bare no grudges or ill will to anyone so keep the abuse to a minimum

All the best boys,see yu

ps..it was no more than 3,000

Come back soon! Need more sensible posters!

You've clearly not read his posts, a bitter and twisted man with little understanding or empathy. I love the free debate our forefathers died to defend. BUT The bigger and more credible each march became, the more insulting and personal his desperate posts became, culminating this weekend, personally naming and threatening people. I thought Annis should've banned him last summer when her got personal with Sian Branson, he was allowed to stay and hang himself. which he has done this morning with a message-board suicide note

He wont get on in the States.They hate turncoats.They usualy shoot them.

More hypocrisy from Natman Red... Refuses to believe gossip when it doesn't fit his pro rebrand ideas, yet as soon as he hears something that does, he has no reason not to believe it.

No, well done to misread again though!

What I said is that I'm very careful to trust what I listen to.

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

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I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian ethics you want to, horrid little man.

pmsl

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

Could almost be the voice of God Natman, they say he works in mysterious ways

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

Could almost be the voice of God Natman, they say he works in mysterious ways

Hes more like Judas Iscariot.

God wouldnt spend his day of rest trolling a football forum thats for sure!!!

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

Could almost be the voice of God Natman, they say he works in mysterious ways

Hes more like Judas Iscariot.

God wouldnt spend his day of rest trolling a football forum thats for sure!!!

You're forgetting, i'm the one with the theology degree, not you!

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

Could almost be the voice of God Natman, they say he works in mysterious ways

Hes more like Judas Iscariot.

God wouldnt spend his day of rest trolling a football forum thats for sure!!!

You're forgetting, i'm the one with the theology degree, not you!

You probably blew a priest off for it

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

Could almost be the voice of God Natman, they say he works in mysterious ways

Hes more like Judas Iscariot.

God wouldnt spend his day of rest trolling a football forum thats for sure!!!

You're forgetting, i'm the one with the theology degree, not you!

As a Christian, How do you feel about the 'Vincent Tan is a Malay-Muslim' theory.

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

Could almost be the voice of God Natman, they say he works in mysterious ways

Hes more like Judas Iscariot.

God wouldnt spend his day of rest trolling a football forum thats for sure!!!

You're forgetting, i'm the one with the theology degree, not you!

As a Christian, How do you feel about the 'Vincent Tan is a Malay-Muslim' theory.

To be honest I've not heard that so would give an opinion if you could tell me about it. I do believe though that he has donated a huge amount of money to a local Christian charity through the Christmas toy collection scheme that the city did. I'm not sure if you knew but that project is run by a church in Barry.

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

Could almost be the voice of God Natman, they say he works in mysterious ways

Hes more like Judas Iscariot.

God wouldnt spend his day of rest trolling a football forum thats for sure!!!

You're forgetting, i'm the one with the theology degree, not you!

You probably blew a priest off for it

Ah, another insult to add to the list!

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

Could almost be the voice of God Natman, they say he works in mysterious ways

Hes more like Judas Iscariot.

God wouldnt spend his day of rest trolling a football forum thats for sure!!!

You're forgetting, i'm the one with the theology degree, not you!

As a Christian, How do you feel about the 'Vincent Tan is a Malay-Muslim' theory.

To be honest I've not heard that so would give an opinion if you could tell me about it. I do believe though that he has donated a huge amount of money to a local Christian charity through the Christmas toy collection scheme that the city did. I'm not sure if you knew but that project is run by a church in Barry.

There we have it, you've let Jesus intefere with your football, what a mercenary to the Tan dollar.

I have a degree in Religious and Theological Studies and a Master in Christian Ethics, both from Cardiff Uni.

Joking degrees then.

Start practicing your Christian Ethics you want to, horrid little man.

Could almost be the voice of God Natman, they say he works in mysterious ways

Hes more like Judas Iscariot.

God wouldnt spend his day of rest trolling a football forum thats for sure!!!

You're forgetting, i'm the one with the theology degree, not you!

As a Christian, How do you feel about the 'Vincent Tan is a Malay-Muslim' theory.

To be honest I've not heard that so would give an opinion if you could tell me about it. I do believe though that he has donated a huge amount of money to a local Christian charity through the Christmas toy collection scheme that the city did. I'm not sure if you knew but that project is run by a church in Barry.

There we have it, you've let Jesus intefere with your football, what a mercenary to the Tan dollar.

lol

The 11th Commandment - Though shalt wear BLUE

The 11th Commandment - Though shalt wear BLUE

Don't be silly. Natman told us a while ago that God would frown upon those who protested.

The 11th Commandment - Though shalt wear BLUE

Don't be silly. Natman told us a while ago that God would frown upon those who protested.

Hes more barmy than David Icke.

Defo needs a change of name on this forum.

Natman coincidentally an anagram of Tan Man so I think Tan Man Red would be much more apt.

I shall PM Annis now.

No doubt i my mind who is the bigger man in this thread sad read.

No doubt i my mind who is the bigger man in this thread sad read.

God i'd say, unless you know of bigger?

No doubt i my mind who is the bigger man in this thread sad read.

God i'd say, unless you know of bigger?

The 11th Commandment - Though shalt wear BLUE

Don't be silly. Natman told us a while ago that God would frown upon those who protested.

Said no such thing. Sad how someone enjoys twisting the truth so much to suit their agenda and just to be able to troll someone. Oh wait, that's right, I'm on AAMB!

I see all the little kiddies are on here tonight

You aint going any where near any mud slides are you ?

The 11th Commandment - Though shalt wear BLUE

Don't be silly. Natman told us a while ago that God would frown upon those who protested.

Hes more barmy than David Icke.

Defo needs a change of name on this forum.

Natman coincidentally an anagram of Tan Man so I think Tan Man Red would be much more apt.

I shall PM Annis now.

Why does he need to change his name it's his choice what he wants to call himself thought it was dictators who tell people what to do . How many name changes have you had