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Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:01 pm

Theres tan out and slagging him off chants INSIDE THE CCS so maybe the same people who are being told not to join the protest with tan out chants shouldnt turn up for home games either.......Get real ffs people will do and say what they want, march or not it only takes one person starting a chant and i hope EVERYONE is come the protest :thumbup: The people turning up for blue all know fine well there is no blue while tans here and it dont take a rocket scientist to figure that one out :ayatollah:
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Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:01 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:The fact that BU want blue back and Tan out doesn't make a difference. This march is a pro-blue march, everyone knows this, so EVERYONE who wants blue back is welcome. I'm going on the march and I also want Tan out, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start shouting abuse towards Tan. There's so much ignorance in this thread.

Thats what has been said. If BU come along chanting pro blue stuff then thats great. If they turn up or anyone for that matter chanting their racist/tan out agenda then they are ruining it for not only the organisers, but everyone else.

If people want a Tan out march, they should organise one themselves and not hijack this one (if anybody is planning on that)

Of course. Well hopefully the organizers will be quick to point out those who try to ruin it, because it's a free country and anyone can join this march. There's always a handful of idiots in these type of protests.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:01 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:The fact that BU want blue back and Tan out doesn't make a difference. This march is a pro-blue march, everyone knows this, so EVERYONE who wants blue back is welcome. I'm going on the march and I also want Tan out, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start shouting abuse towards Tan. There's so much ignorance in this thread.

Thats what has been said. If BU come along chanting pro blue stuff then thats great. If they turn up or anyone for that matter chanting their racist/tan out agenda then they are ruining it for not only the organisers, but everyone else.

If people want a Tan out march, they should organise one themselves and not hijack this one (if anybody is planning on that)


You still haven't said how you can march for blue and want tan in.

Tan has told you that you are red until he leaves.

Who you marching to? The blue fairies?

(Oh and dont confuse Tan out with being racist)

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:05 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:The fact that BU want blue back and Tan out doesn't make a difference. This march is a pro-blue march, everyone knows this, so EVERYONE who wants blue back is welcome. I'm going on the march and I also want Tan out, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start shouting abuse towards Tan. There's so much ignorance in this thread.

Thats what has been said. If BU come along chanting pro blue stuff then thats great. If they turn up or anyone for that matter chanting their racist/tan out agenda then they are ruining it for not only the organisers, but everyone else.

If people want a Tan out march, they should organise one themselves and not hijack this one (if anybody is planning on that)

Of course. Well hopefully the organizers will be quick to point out those who try to ruin it, because it's a free country and anyone can join this march. There's always a handful of idiots in these type of protests.

I shall be one of them jon who wants tan out along with many others , we are all idiots for wanting this of course as there will be no return to blue with tan there lets face facts :thumbup:

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:06 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:The fact that BU want blue back and Tan out doesn't make a difference. This march is a pro-blue march, everyone knows this, so EVERYONE who wants blue back is welcome. I'm going on the march and I also want Tan out, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start shouting abuse towards Tan. There's so much ignorance in this thread.

Thats what has been said. If BU come along chanting pro blue stuff then thats great. If they turn up or anyone for that matter chanting their racist/tan out agenda then they are ruining it for not only the organisers, but everyone else.

If people want a Tan out march, they should organise one themselves and not hijack this one (if anybody is planning on that)


You still haven't said how you can march for blue and want tan in.

Tan has told you that you are red until he leaves.

Who you marching to? The blue fairies?

(Oh and dont confuse Tan out with being racist)

You still havent grasped the fact that I dont care what you have to say on the matter. Another teams supporters opinion on the rebrand is irrelevant. Only CCFC fans opinions matter.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:07 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:The fact that BU want blue back and Tan out doesn't make a difference. This march is a pro-blue march, everyone knows this, so EVERYONE who wants blue back is welcome. I'm going on the march and I also want Tan out, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start shouting abuse towards Tan. There's so much ignorance in this thread.

Thats what has been said. If BU come along chanting pro blue stuff then thats great. If they turn up or anyone for that matter chanting their racist/tan out agenda then they are ruining it for not only the organisers, but everyone else.

If people want a Tan out march, they should organise one themselves and not hijack this one (if anybody is planning on that)

Of course. Well hopefully the organizers will be quick to point out those who try to ruin it, because it's a free country and anyone can join this march. There's always a handful of idiots in these type of protests.

I shall be one of them jon who wants tan out along with many others , we are all idiots for wanting this of course as there will be no return to blue with tan there lets face facts :thumbup:

I don't think anyone's an idiot for wanting Tan out, I'm one of those people. :lol:

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:08 pm

I will be at the march and I WILL be protesting for both blue back and TANOUT as it's the same f*cking thing, only way we will get blue back as by getting rid of tan, any of you got a problem with that come and have a word at the march, il be the one holding a TANOUT banner
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Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:08 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:The fact that BU want blue back and Tan out doesn't make a difference. This march is a pro-blue march, everyone knows this, so EVERYONE who wants blue back is welcome. I'm going on the march and I also want Tan out, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start shouting abuse towards Tan. There's so much ignorance in this thread.

Thats what has been said. If BU come along chanting pro blue stuff then thats great. If they turn up or anyone for that matter chanting their racist/tan out agenda then they are ruining it for not only the organisers, but everyone else.

If people want a Tan out march, they should organise one themselves and not hijack this one (if anybody is planning on that)

Of course. Well hopefully the organizers will be quick to point out those who try to ruin it, because it's a free country and anyone can join this march. There's always a handful of idiots in these type of protests.

I shall be one of them jon who wants tan out along with many others , we are all idiots for wanting this of course as there will be no return to blue with tan there lets face facts :thumbup:

Jesus christ. Nobody is saying dont go if you want tan out, just stick to the marches aims and itinery of pro blue as thats what the organisers have requested and thats what media have been told. If it turns into a Tan out/racist free for all it will be the media turning on the fans.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:09 pm

CasuallyCasual wrote:I will be at the march and I WILL be protesting for both blue back and TANOUT, any of you got a problem with that come and have a word at the march, il be the one holding a TANOUT banner

:laughing6: Hmm you will be hard to find :ayatollah:

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:10 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:The fact that BU want blue back and Tan out doesn't make a difference. This march is a pro-blue march, everyone knows this, so EVERYONE who wants blue back is welcome. I'm going on the march and I also want Tan out, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start shouting abuse towards Tan. There's so much ignorance in this thread.

Thats what has been said. If BU come along chanting pro blue stuff then thats great. If they turn up or anyone for that matter chanting their racist/tan out agenda then they are ruining it for not only the organisers, but everyone else.

If people want a Tan out march, they should organise one themselves and not hijack this one (if anybody is planning on that)

Of course. Well hopefully the organizers will be quick to point out those who try to ruin it, because it's a free country and anyone can join this march. There's always a handful of idiots in these type of protests.

I shall be one of them jon who wants tan out along with many others , we are all idiots for wanting this of course as there will be no return to blue with tan there lets face facts :thumbup:

Jesus christ. Nobody is saying dont go if you want tan out, just stick to the marches aims and itinery of pro blue as thats what the organisers have requested and thats what media have been told. If it turns into a Tan out/racist free for all it will be the media turning on the fans.


I hope it turns in to a riot craig :thumbup:
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Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:10 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
You still havent grasped the fact that I dont care what you have to say on the matter. Another teams supporters opinion on the rebrand is irrelevant. Only CCFC fans opinions matter.


You dont have to care to make sense.

Currently you arent.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:11 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:I will be at the march and I WILL be protesting for both blue back and TANOUT, any of you got a problem with that come and have a word at the march, il be the one holding a TANOUT banner

:laughing6: Hmm you will be hard to find :ayatollah:

Well hopefully there will be a few other Tan out banners, the only way we will get blue back is with him leaving he club, so TANOUT and back to blue are the same

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:11 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
RayHorn wrote:
What are you saying? Dictator and owner is the same term? So calling the owner a dictator does not imply the owner of being
abusive of human rights, workers rights and doing business beside the law? Please, go on..


Dictator doesnt mean that Ray.

A dictator is someone that has complete control over an organisation and runs it non democratically. This described tan perfectly doesnt it? Or does he get away with it because he allowed you to pick your shorts :laughing6:


No i cant see that roath. By changing his shirt to red he is not running the club democratically? Wouldnt be much decision making around the boardrooms in the world if they where to follow your logic roath. But by calling someone a dictator, i very much see them implying my stative above..

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:13 pm

CasuallyCasual wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:I will be at the march and I WILL be protesting for both blue back and TANOUT, any of you got a problem with that come and have a word at the march, il be the one holding a TANOUT banner

:laughing6: Hmm you will be hard to find :ayatollah:

Well hopefully there will be a few other Tan out banners, the only way we will get blue back is with him leaving he club, so TANOUT and back to blue are the same

Then the march will dwindle to a few hundred again and be a total failure like the others. Sticking to pro blue you would get thousands there.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:16 pm

RayHorn wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
RayHorn wrote:
What are you saying? Dictator and owner is the same term? So calling the owner a dictator does not imply the owner of being
abusive of human rights, workers rights and doing business beside the law? Please, go on..


Dictator doesnt mean that Ray.

A dictator is someone that has complete control over an organisation and runs it non democratically. This described tan perfectly doesnt it? Or does he get away with it because he allowed you to pick your shorts :laughing6:


No i cant see that roath. By changing his shirt to red he is not running the club democratically? Wouldnt be much decision making around the boardrooms in the world if they where to follow your logic roath. But by calling someone a dictator, i very much see them implying my stative above..


Thats the point, most clubs have a boardroom and take a vote on club matters. We do, and have a fans seat on the board. Every major decision is voted on.

Tan decides what he wants and implements it. That IS a dictator. No getting around it.
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Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:16 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:I will be at the march and I WILL be protesting for both blue back and TANOUT, any of you got a problem with that come and have a word at the march, il be the one holding a TANOUT banner

:laughing6: Hmm you will be hard to find :ayatollah:

Well hopefully there will be a few other Tan out banners, the only way we will get blue back is with him leaving he club, so TANOUT and back to blue are the same

Then the march will dwindle to a few hundred again and be a total failure like the others. Sticking to pro blue you would get thousands there.

Craig's right. As much as I want Tan out, if fans start chanting abuse towards Tan fans will start walking away. A peaceful protest would be far more successful.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:19 pm

JonCCFC wrote:Craig's right. As much as I want Tan out, if fans start chanting abuse towards Tan fans will start walking away. A peaceful protest would be far more successful.


What do you see as successful?

Is this march really to get blue back or just a show for the media?

If its to get blue back then a peaceful march will do naff all. tan has stated you will not be blue under his reign, he made it clear. He has also said if you piss him off then he leaves.

So to me surely the latter would be more successful if the goal is blue?

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:22 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:I will be at the march and I WILL be protesting for both blue back and TANOUT, any of you got a problem with that come and have a word at the march, il be the one holding a TANOUT banner

:laughing6: Hmm you will be hard to find :ayatollah:

Well hopefully there will be a few other Tan out banners, the only way we will get blue back is with him leaving he club, so TANOUT and back to blue are the same

Then the march will dwindle to a few hundred again and be a total failure like the others. Sticking to pro blue you would get thousands there.

Craig's right. As much as I want Tan out, if fans start chanting abuse towards Tan fans will start walking away. A peaceful protest would be far more successful.

Tim Hartley of the trust said he'll walk away from the protest if tan out starts.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:24 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:I will be at the march and I WILL be protesting for both blue back and TANOUT, any of you got a problem with that come and have a word at the march, il be the one holding a TANOUT banner

:laughing6: Hmm you will be hard to find :ayatollah:

Well hopefully there will be a few other Tan out banners, the only way we will get blue back is with him leaving he club, so TANOUT and back to blue are the same

Then the march will dwindle to a few hundred again and be a total failure like the others. Sticking to pro blue you would get thousands there.

Sorry mate but to be pro blue you must also be anti-tan. He said he will never give us blue back so the only option is to try and remove him

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:25 pm

The primary aim of the march is for a return to blue. Tan is the only one who can facilitate this change therefore the march is aimed indirectly at him in reality. As long as no fan indulges in behavior that is deemed arrestable then you can have no complaints.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:39 pm

CasuallyCasual wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:
CasuallyCasual wrote:I will be at the march and I WILL be protesting for both blue back and TANOUT, any of you got a problem with that come and have a word at the march, il be the one holding a TANOUT banner

:laughing6: Hmm you will be hard to find :ayatollah:

Well hopefully there will be a few other Tan out banners, the only way we will get blue back is with him leaving he club, so TANOUT and back to blue are the same

Then the march will dwindle to a few hundred again and be a total failure like the others. Sticking to pro blue you would get thousands there.

Sorry mate but to be pro blue you must also be anti-tan. He said he will never give us blue back so the only option is to try and remove him

How can you take his word as true? He lies out of his arse.
Convenient that this statement is being taken as gospel.

Force tan out, we are not then guaranteed a blue kit, could end up with any owner or just get repeatedly sold until we end up like Portsmouth.
Let's show him in numbers we ALL want blue back, he could then shock us all and change the kit.
While you abuse him he will dig his heels in to pi@s people off. He holds the power..fight him you won't win he can continue to make more changes as and when he wants to spite rude fans..

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:41 pm

If some of you could look further than the end of your nose i'd be amazed.

Your ultimate goal is to get thousands and thousands on a Tan out march. At present, as already proven, only a few hundred are willing to attend such a march.....so what do you do??? EASY!!

You hold a pro blue march (like the upcoming liverpool one) which is kept purely to pro blue. Thousands of fans turn up.....Tan doesnt listen and these thousands of fans start getting a bit more miffed............you hold another pro blue only march, again thousands and thousands turn up.....Tan, again, doesnt listen.....all of a sudden you have thousands and thousands of pissed off fans that are willing to hold a Tan out march. This is where you ramp it up. A few crap Tan out marches by a few hundred people wont even cause a ripple. You get 3\4k doing it and I bet he takes a dam lot more notice. This is a long term battle, he wont just go "ah well, im off then" after one little march.

The media are onside at the moment due to the press release and the thought of a pro blue march. If it descends into Racism/Tan out....basically not what was described on the tin, you watch how quick they turn on the fans.....they only side with whoever gets them the best story. Dont think for one minute they actually care.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:43 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:If some of you could look further than the end of your nose i'd be amazed.

Your ultimate goal is to get thousands and thousands on a Tan out march. At present, as already proven, only a few hundred are willing to attend such a march.....so what do you do??? EASY!!

You hold a pro blue march (like the upcoming liverpool one) which is kept purely to pro blue. Thousands of fans turn up.....Tan doesnt listen and these thousands of fans start getting a bit more miffed............you hold another pro blue only march, again thousands and thousands turn up.....Tan, again, doesnt listen.....all of a sudden you have thousands and thousands of pissed off fans that are willing to hold a Tan out march. This is where you ramp it up. A few crap Tan out marches by a few hundred people wont even cause a ripple. You get 3\4k doing it and I bet he takes a dam lot more notice. This is a long term battle, he wont just go "ah well, im off then" after one little march.

The media are onside at the moment due to the press release and the thought of a pro blue march. If it descends into Racism/Tan out....basically not what was described on the tin, you watch how quick they turn on the fans.....they only side wth whoever gets them the best story. Dont think for one minute they actually care.


Spot on Craig

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:46 pm

I spoke to Sian Branson earlier this week and I asked the question "What if someone does brings along a Tan Out banner?" she assured me that she and BU 100% agree with the aim and spirit of the march and she would have no hesitation in asking them to remove it or leave.

All supporters groups, CCSC, CCST, MM, AA, and BU have all jointly agreed to the following:-

March Objective
The one and only objective of the march is for fans to display a mass show of pride in Cardiff City’s heritage and tradition and to peacefully demonstrate our strong desire to return to our blue kit with Bluebird badge.

Important information
Organisers intend to hold a peaceful and positive march that welcomes Cardiff City fans of all backgrounds and ages. Organisers would like to stress in no uncertain terms, that any chanting or banners containing foul language or insulting / racist messages aimed at anyone at the football club, its supporters and individuals are totally unacceptable and will not be permitted in any form whatsoever during any part of the protest. The organisers preference is for those taking part not to bring banners, but to wear blue scarfs and tops. The march will also be an alcohol free demonstration. Organisers absolutely insist that all attendees support these objectives and abide by these rules. Please help us to create something special and show the footballing world that Cardiff City fans are a positive and passionate credit to their club.
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Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:47 pm

CasuallyCasual wrote:I will be at the march and I WILL be protesting for both blue back and TANOUT as it's the same f*cking thing, only way we will get blue back as by getting rid of tan, any of you got a problem with that come and have a word at the march, il be the one holding a TANOUT banner


So you will be willing for this march to go tits up like all the other marches by not trying a different approach :roll:

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:48 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:If some of you could look further than the end of your nose i'd be amazed.

Your ultimate goal is to get thousands and thousands on a Tan out march. At present, as already proven, only a few hundred are willing to attend such a march.....so what do you do??? EASY!!

You hold a pro blue march (like the upcoming liverpool one) which is kept purely to pro blue. Thousands of fans turn up.....Tan doesnt listen and these thousands of fans start getting a bit more miffed............you hold another pro blue only march, again thousands and thousands turn up.....Tan, again, doesnt listen.....all of a sudden you have thousands and thousands of pissed off fans that are willing to hold a Tan out march. This is where you ramp it up. A few crap Tan out marches by a few hundred people wont even cause a ripple. You get 3\4k doing it and I bet he takes a dam lot more notice. This is a long term battle, he wont just go "ah well, im off then" after one little march.

The media are onside at the moment due to the press release and the thought of a pro blue march. If it descends into Racism/Tan out....basically not what was described on the tin, you watch how quick they turn on the fans.....they only side with whoever gets them the best story. Dont think for one minute they actually care.


After Liverpool you only have 3 home games with the attention of the media left.

You have left it too late to play the "long game". You want blue back then Tan has to go simple as that.

If you dont want Tan gone then you put hos cash ahead of the traditions of the club and really shouldnt be on the march.
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Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:49 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:If some of you could look further than the end of your nose i'd be amazed.

Your ultimate goal is to get thousands and thousands on a Tan out march. At present, as already proven, only a few hundred are willing to attend such a march.....so what do you do??? EASY!!

You hold a pro blue march (like the upcoming liverpool one) which is kept purely to pro blue. Thousands of fans turn up.....Tan doesnt listen and these thousands of fans start getting a bit more miffed............you hold another pro blue only march, again thousands and thousands turn up.....Tan, again, doesnt listen.....all of a sudden you have thousands and thousands of pissed off fans that are willing to hold a Tan out march. This is where you ramp it up. A few crap Tan out marches by a few hundred people wont even cause a ripple. You get 3\4k doing it and I bet he takes a dam lot more notice. This is a long term battle, he wont just go "ah well, im off then" after one little march.

The media are onside at the moment due to the press release and the thought of a pro blue march. If it descends into Racism/Tan out....basically not what was described on the tin, you watch how quick they turn on the fans.....they only side with whoever gets them the best story. Dont think for one minute they actually care.


After Liverpool you only have 3 home games with the attention of the media left.

You have keft it too late to play the "long game". You want blue back then Tan has to go simple as that.

If you dont want Tan gone then you put hos cash ahead of the traditions of the club and really shouldnt be on the march.

Next season?

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:51 pm

Next season nobody will give a damn about you, the media wont even bother reporting it. Not to mention the stark drop in numbers of fans.... And the obvious fact that by the time next season arrives you will already have registered another season under the red.

Assuming you do get relegated of course. But at this stage you do not know so its not really a risk you can take.

It makes no sense to not want tan out and be on the march for a return to blue as simply one cannot happen without the other.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:57 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:Next season nobody will give a damn about you, the media wont even bother reporting it. Not to mention the stark drop in numbers of fans.... And the obvious fact that by the time next season arrives you will already have registered another season under the red.

Assuming you do get relegated of course. But at this stage you do not know so its not really a risk you can take.

It makes no sense to not want tan out and be on the march for a return to blue as simply one cannot happen without the other.

I don't like having tan as an owner purely down to all the negative press and arguing amongst fans.

I do though like how we have progressed on and off the pitch under tan.

Better the devil you know in these situations if you ask me, tan out isn't high on my list of important things but a blue kit and bluebird badge is, some say both go hand in hand but in MY opinion they don't have to, that's the beauty of people having own opinions, I like to think for myself and not just agree with what gets posted on here.

Re: BU SITE - SHOCKING

Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:02 pm

TripleD wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Next season nobody will give a damn about you, the media wont even bother reporting it. Not to mention the stark drop in numbers of fans.... And the obvious fact that by the time next season arrives you will already have registered another season under the red.

Assuming you do get relegated of course. But at this stage you do not know so its not really a risk you can take.

It makes no sense to not want tan out and be on the march for a return to blue as simply one cannot happen without the other.

I don't like having tan as an owner purely down to all the negative press and arguing amongst fans.

I do though like how we have progressed on and off the pitch under tan.

Better the devil you know in these situations if you ask me, tan out isn't high on my list of important things but a blue kit and bluebird badge is, some say both go hand in hand but in MY opinion they don't have to, that's the beauty of people having own opinions, I like to think for myself and not just agree with what gets posted on here.


You say you have progressed on and off the pitch.

Bear in mind, if relegated you will be in exactly the same place as you were when he took over (upper championship) yet in 3 times the debt with your identity destroyed.