Bubbles bursting...complete domination

Any where but here really.

Seriously though, you're lucky enough to live in such a fantastic part of the world,with so much going on and an infinite choice of things to do and places to go.Yet you choose to spend Saturday night on an internet forum of a football team you neither support or even like.

You obviously consider it normal.I would seriously question that. Are you on the Swansea site too?,although that would still be somewhat sad.

Anyway, I was just killing some time on here, but am off out now, as there is plenty to do, even here on a Saturday. Big day of sport here, meeting some friends,meal out few beers, a good social day out. That's what Saturday's are for!

Enjoy the rest of your evening!

So you think I should be going out for a meal at midnight?

Each to their own I guess, im currently watching the rest of independence day with the other half in bed as I wait for the 1am kick off for the match.

Sorry if thats not crazy enough but im not in the business of trying to be cool.

The original post accepted that Swansea should definitely be OK this year and therefore so will Monk.
As for Monks managerial abilitiy it is far to early to form anu opinion. But, as stated, I have a feeling that things will turn sour next year. Perhaps the initial lustre of the Monk reign will soon wear off (a bit like Sherwoods. I have a feeling that some of the better foreign players will feel incomfortable and not part of his matey "lads who used to play for me" group. And the prospect of playing for a gary Monk team is in no way as exciting a prospect as playing for Laudrup. It will be a big test for Mr Monk and some of those "lads" will be getting a bit long in the tooth (britton Rangel etc). I think by this time next year Mr Monk will be gone and Swansea will be in dire relegation problems.

It is only a prediction and, of course I could be wrong. If so, i'll put my hands up and say fair play to Monk.
Maybe at that time, if Im right Roath Magic might be able to swallow some humble pie and agree. Dont worry though ..........
[quote="Roath_Magic_"........im used to having to wait for people to agree with me on this forum [/quote]


As regards the City I feel we must support OGS and be with him in the longer term. Whether we stay up or not.Problem is we have a habit of shooting ourselves in the foot (eg protests in the middle of a relegation battle, Tan v MM etc).

Absolutely will.

However your basis that Monk wont be a good manager because you dont think Tim Sherwood is - is bizarre.

Currently he has the best points per game ratio of any swans prem manager so currently you are incorrect. Time will tell if that changes.

It is only my belief that Monk will not be a success in the longer term. Also I am not saying that Sherwood is a bad manager. Too early to judge. I merely pointed out that there could be similarities (ex player and popular choice with the fans but with no managerial experience to speak of). My reasons for THiNKING that Monk will fail (apart from the obvious lack of experience as a manager) are outlined in the last post. Also in the event that you need quality replacements to strengthen the team does Monk have the contacts (asyou mention) and will the Gary Monk name name attract quality? No.

Lets hope we can revisit this in a years time - as I said, fair play to him if he proves me wrong.

Go for it, im used to having to wait for people to agree with me on this forum

I'll never agree a 4 v 62 game comparison means anything so don't hold your breath.............

The points to game ratio is available after every game it is up to you when you start to agree, but what you have no choice in agreeing to is that if we judge all 3 Swansea Premier League managers careers then Monk has the highest points per game ratio.

That is just something you will have to deal with carps.

I don't have to deal with anything as who has what win ratio doesn't interest me in the slightest. My point is that to make a comparison between a manager for 4 games and one who had 62 is utter nonsense. It would make a modicum of sense if you compared monks first 4 games against ML's first 4 but then that doesn't suit your pointless stat does it?

It is only my belief that Monk will not be a success in the longer term. Also I am not saying that Sherwood is a bad manager. Too early to judge. I merely pointed out that there could be similarities (ex player and popular choice with the fans but with no managerial experience to speak of). My reasons for THiNKING that Monk will fail (apart from the obvious lack of experience as a manager) are outlined in the last post. Also in the event that you need quality replacements to strengthen the team does Monk have the contacts (asyou mention) and will the Gary Monk name name attract quality? No.

Lets hope we can revisit this in a years time - as I said, fair play to him if he proves me wrong.

Look at Roberto Martinez. Ex player, no managerial experience, no real contacts to speak of.

Surely that is a more accurate comparison than Sherwood considering its the same club.

I don't have to deal with anything as who has what win ratio doesn't interest me in the slightest. My point is that to make a comparison between a manager for 4 games and one who had 62 is utter nonsense. It would make a modicum of sense if you compared monks first 4 games against ML's first 4 but then that doesn't suit your pointless stat does it?

Im afraid you do have to deal with it as its a fact.

Whether it interests you isnt really the point. You can compare anything to anything, the more whole the comparison the more accurate it becomes. Currently Monk DOES have the highest points per game ratio of any swansea prem manager. This will change every game of course.

Feel free to check back at a time you feel it relevant. However in the mean time Monk is doing a sterling job.

Lets hope we can revisit this in a years time - as I said, fair play to him if he proves me wrong. [/quote]

From what I have heard swansea were piss poor today,at least we lost to a top six team away.you list to a bottom six club at home! Only a misshit shot stopped us from earning a great draw,at a team who have lost only once all season at home! Welcome to the relegation dogfight boys!! From reports heard a radio wales radio commentator said it didnt look you had the fight in you.lets see shall we!

Lost for list in last post,before you comment on it!

I don't have to deal with anything as who has what win ratio doesn't interest me in the slightest. My point is that to make a comparison between a manager for 4 games and one who had 62 is utter nonsense. It would make a modicum of sense if you compared monks first 4 games against ML's first 4 but then that doesn't suit your pointless stat does it?

Im afraid you do have to deal with it as its a fact.

Whether it interests you isnt really the point. You can compare anything to anything, the more whole the comparison the more accurate it becomes. Currently Monk DOES have the highest points per game ratio of any swansea prem manager. This will change every game of course.

Feel free to check back at a time you feel it relevant. However in the mean time Monk is doing a sterling job.

Let's check now then shall we..........

Does monk have he worst PL record ever for a swansea manager?

Let's check now then shall we..........

Does monk have he worst PL record ever for a swansea manager?

Comparing after 5 games?

You are nuts

Monk drove a major nail into your relegation today. Very clever indeed.

From what I have heard swansea were piss poor today,at least we lost to a top six team away.you list to a bottom six club at home! Only a misshit shot stopped us from earning a great draw,at a team who have lost only once all season at home! Welcome to the relegation dogfight boys!! From reports heard a radio wales radio commentator said it didnt look you had the fight in you.lets see shall we!

you lost to hull at home 4-0 a few weeks back.

You heard wrong, once again scintillating football and complete dominance in the first half, should have been 3 or 4-0 up.

Second half capitulated again just like against Palace.

Let's check now then shall we..........

Does monk have he worst PL record ever for a swansea manager?

Comparing after 5 games?

You are nuts

Monk drove a major nail into your relegation today. Very clever indeed.

So I'm right then
Only one team responsible for our relegation and that's Cardiff City.

You keep on with your self praise kid,you are more in denial,than Elton john was before he came out!what is all this scintallating total dominance getting you,In the way of results?? You are in this relagation scrap like it or lump it kid!one win in eight is it? And don't say "yeah but we beat you"cos we have shared the points on offer,regardless of the actual results between us this season,and that radio wales reporter was lying obviously,cos you dominated again,yeah with nothing for it,a crying shame is it!

God we were unlucky today and we played really well 2nd half. It may be fatal blow for us. Also I actually wanted Swansea to win today as it would have helped us.I'm so gutted at the City result today,its hard to join in any badinage with you Roath Magic. BUT Heres one more post
I had thought (bubbles bursting) that with the team he inherited Monk and Swansea would be OK till next year. But this complete domination football may yet see you really struggle this year.
To quote your earlier comments during our discussions on a related post.........
"The sensational football under Monk continues,...........Count us out of the relegation scrap if anybody still thought we were in it." Hmm Hmm
It seems that you are now right in it.
Your game with Norwich looks absolutely massive. You should win it but with Monk in charge I am not sure.
If you lose, the trap door will start to open for you as well. As I said before some of the other players in your squad dont/wont feel part of this "ex players still pals" group / love in around Monk. And if there is discontent in the squad ..........

Let's check now then shall we..........

Does monk have he worst PL record ever for a swansea manager?

Comparing after 5 games?

You are nuts

Monk drove a major nail into your relegation today. Very clever indeed.

So I'm right then
Only one team responsible for our relegation and that's Cardiff City.

No, you said 4 games - i said 5.

Us hammering you 3-0 and then allowing WBA to beat us was a major part.

You keep on with your self praise kid,you are more in denial,than Elton john was before he came out!what is all this scintallating total dominance getting you,In the way of results?? You are in this relagation scrap like it or lump it kid!one win in eight is it? And don't say "yeah but we beat you"cos we have shared the points on offer,regardless of the actual results between us this season,and that radio wales reporter was lying obviously,cos you dominated again,yeah with nothing for it,a crying shame is it!

What do you mean we got nothing for it, it got us the lead. When we play scintillating dominating football we win the half. Unfortunately the last two outings the reverse happened in the second half.

We keep it going for 90 mins and we will be one hell of a force. Early days, he will get it right soon

God we were unlucky today and we played really well 2nd half. It may be fatal blow for us. Also I actually wanted Swansea to win today as it would have helped us.I'm so gutted at the City result today,its hard to join in any badinage with you Roath Magic. BUT Heres one more post
I had thought (bubbles bursting) that with the team he inherited Monk and Swansea would be OK till next year. But this complete domination football may yet see you really struggle this year.
To quote your earlier comments during our discussions on a related post.........
"The sensational football under Monk continues,...........Count us out of the relegation scrap if anybody still thought we were in it." Hmm Hmm
It seems that you are now right in it.
Your game with Norwich looks absolutely massive. You should win it but with Monk in charge I am not sure.
If you lose, the trap door will start to open for you as well. As I said before some of the other players in your squad dont/wont feel part of this "ex players still pals" group / love in around Monk. And if there is discontent in the squad ..........

I completely stand by that comment too, even in terms of today.

We are 5 points clear with 8 games left. Id say we need 5 points from 8 games. Which is way below seasonal and current form against our easiest group of 8 matches of the season.

We are not in it, trust me.

I note that nearly all the posters on Planet Swans realise that you are in a relegation fight.
I think you will survive but maybe only by goal difference. But like I said it will be no thanks to Monk. Many of your fellow Swans think you might be in the Championship!! They are talking about a shocking last couple of performances and about being a rudderless ship!!
Complete domination??
What was I saying about the initial euphoria with Monks appointment wearing off........

I note that nearly all the posters on Planet Swans realise that you are in a relegation fight.
I think you will survive but maybe only by goal difference. But like I said it will be no thanks to Monk. Many of your fellow Swans think you might be in the Championship!! They are talking about a shocking last couple of performances and about being a rudderless ship!!
Complete domination??
What was I saying about the initial euphoria with Monks appointment wearing off........

please dont use Planetswans as a barometer for anything in the real world. There is a reason they dislike me - i keep proving myself to be correct.

We were indeed completely dominant in the first half, should have been 3-0 up but for some good keeping. Think it was 70% possession and 12 shots on goal compared to 30% possession and 2 shots on goal. Thats dominant and as a result we went in to half time with the deserved lead.

Second half was a different story. It seems fascinating that this board cant understand that you can be completely dominant in one half and not the other. Its almost as if the second half determines how the first half went - which is a nonsense notion really isnt it.

There are 6 teams below us and 3 above us that are worse teams in my opinion, we probably have the easiest run in. We have Michu, Dyer, Hernandez and Shelvey to come back and are playing an awful lot better an under Laudrup thats for sure. Chalk and cheese.

Im not sure how you can say "no thanks to Monk" though. 5 points in 5 games so far, that is what Michael laudrup was doing this season thus far, point a game. We now actually play decent stuff so I have no concerns what so ever. We are not and have never been in a dogfight.

You are delusional roath! A half time lead means sweet f.a.I asked you what does all this scintalating total dominance football get you in terms of results?? Never known the f.a. To award points for leading at half time!! Or for dominating a match,even if you have 99% possesion and 100 shots on goal,it only counts when you actually put the ball in that thing known as the goal!! You keep on dominating kid,hope the teams you play,realise you have classy footballers and they should roll over for you! Like what west brom proved today,it aint going to happen.dogfight you are in.if you have played scintalating football and only scored one goal,out of numerous chances,they should stand by and watch you play,and not put up a fight,as you deserved to be three goals ahead,as dominated for the entire first half! West brom were more up for the fight,than you,as proved by your capitulation in the second half! You can keep all your stats,as the result is all that matters,and that kid,is the plain and simple truth,as I said earlier one win in eight isn't it? Not good form regardless of domination is it??

Let's check now then shall we..........

Does monk have he worst PL record ever for a swansea manager?

Comparing after 5 games?

You are nuts

Monk drove a major nail into your relegation today. Very clever indeed.

So I'm right then
Only one team responsible for our relegation and that's Cardiff City.

No, you said 4 games - i said 5.

Us hammering you 3-0 and then allowing WBA to beat us was a major part.

Dies monk have the worst points to game ratio of any swans manager to have managed in the PL?

You are delusional roath! A half time lead means sweet f.a.I asked you what does all this scintalating total dominance football get you in terms of results??

when we are dominating and playing scintillating football then I cant remember a time when we havent won the match. So it gets 3 points every time. However if you only do it for a half then you run the risk of not getting the win.

Never known the f.a. To award points for leading at half time!! Or for dominating a match,even if you have 99% possesion and 100 shots on goal,it only counts when you actually put the ball in that thing known as the goal!!

spot on. Hence why we have done it enough times to be pretty much 5 points clear.

You keep on dominating kid,hope the teams you play,realise you have classy footballers and they should roll over for you! Like what west brom proved today,it aint going to happen.dogfight you are in.

we are not in a dogfight at all.

if you have played scintalating football and only scored one goal,out of numerous chances,they should stand by and watch you play,and not put up a fight,as you deserved to be three goals ahead,as dominated for the entire first half!

barca deserve more than a 1-0 lead at half time sometimes too, thats football.

West brom were more up for the fight,than you,as proved by your capitulation in the second half! You can keep all your stats,as the result is all that matters,and that kid,is the plain and simple truth,as I said earlier one win in eight isn't it? Not good form regardless of domination is it??

or 2 defeats in 8 - depends on how you look at it. Either way the form has got us into a position where were are 14th and 5 points clear of relegation. Thats a perfectly fine position to be in.

Dies monk have the worst points to game ratio of any swans manager to have managed in the PL?

Monk is still alive as far as im aware carps.

You keep on with your self praise kid,you are more in denial,than Elton john was before he came out!what is all this scintallating total dominance getting you,In the way of results?? You are in this relagation scrap like it or lump it kid!one win in eight is it? And don't say "yeah but we beat you"cos we have shared the points on offer,regardless of the actual results between us this season,and that radio wales reporter was lying obviously,cos you dominated again,yeah with nothing for it,a crying shame is it!

What do you mean we got nothing for it, it got us the lead. When we play scintillating dominating football we win the half. Unfortunately the last two outings the reverse happened in the second half.

We keep it going for 90 mins and we will be one hell of a force. Early days, he will get it right soon

So all you have to do to win a football match is completely dominate for 90mins?
I wonder why other teams haven't tried that. With such revolutionary theories should go into football management

You keep on with your self praise kid,you are more in denial,than Elton john was before he came out!what is all this scintallating total dominance getting you,In the way of results?? You are in this relagation scrap like it or lump it kid!one win in eight is it? And don't say "yeah but we beat you"cos we have shared the points on offer,regardless of the actual results between us this season,and that radio wales reporter was lying obviously,cos you dominated again,yeah with nothing for it,a crying shame is it!

What do you mean we got nothing for it, it got us the lead. When we play scintillating dominating football we win the half. Unfortunately the last two outings the reverse happened in the second half.

We keep it going for 90 mins and we will be one hell of a force. Early days, he will get it right soon

So all you have to do to win a football match is completely dominate for 90mins?
I wonder why other teams haven't tried that. With such revolutionary theories should go into football management

Doesnt have to be for 90 mins carps. Just defend well for the next 45 mins will do.

Not a lot to ask. Just hasnt clicked yet, new manager and all innit

Superb signs though.

Dies monk have the worst points to game ratio of any swans manager to have managed in the PL?

Monk is still alive as far as im aware carps.

Picking on typo's now are we

Does monk have the worst points to game ratio of any swans manager to have managed in the PL?[/quote]

Picking on typo's now are we

Does monk have the worst points to game ratio of any swans manager to have managed in the PL?

Cheer up for Gods sake

Not relevant carps. He has a similar record to what Laudrup did this season though who is arguably our most successful ever manager.

Thats pretty impressive.

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Picking on typo's now are we

Does monk have the worst points to game ratio of any swans manager to have managed in the PL?

Cheer up for Gods sake

Not relevant carps. He has a similar record to what Laudrup did this season though who is arguably our most successful ever manager.[/quote]

I'll take that as a "yes".
How the mighty have fallen