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Re: This peaceful march won't work

Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:32 pm

Golden cheetah wrote:Think the idea is good, but cardiff is also known for the many unemployed alcoholic idiot fans, that mostly
Want chanting mr Tan is a wanker etc.
They will probebly destroy the whole arrangement, and it could backfire through the press. Hope not.

Talked today to my friends in Wales about this arrangement.
They will not be there, together with the chanting lunatics as they said.


If the march just fires up the mob before the match, the players will be suffering through chanting, booing in matchtime.


:old:

Think that line about our fans is a little unfair and a bit of a stereotype who says their unemployed.

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:32 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:
CantonJack wrote:It probably won't work. But there no harm in showing Tan and his advisors what we want, and if we actually organise something it looks better on us. There will be loads of publicity all over this

Good point to be fair.

Although i do still think a Tan Out march instead of an pro-blue march would be FAR more effective.

Just my opinion. :ayatollah:

A Tan out march wont have any numbers. Few hundred at most. Thats why a pro blue march will get thousands on board

I don't get that see because the only way to get blue back is if Tan leaves (as he's stated he will never change us back numerous times) so why wouldn't the same people who are willing to turn up to a march for blue, not be willing to turn up for a Tan out march if its the only way?

Makes no sense to me.

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:38 pm

Perhaps some fans are just hoping that if he sees a greater volume of fans protesting he will come around to his senses and it will be sorted more amicably. Or simply they want blue back but not if it potentially put the club at anymore financial risk than it presently his. Good point though

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:39 pm

cendl blue wrote:Perhaps some fans are just hoping that if he sees a greater volume of fans protesting he will come around to his senses and it will be sorted more amicably. Or simply they want blue back but not if it potentially put the club at anymore financial risk than it presently his. Good point though

I hope he sees sense mate but I very much doubt it.

Sadly I can never see Tan backing down.

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:03 pm

scott_w_ccfc wrote:
cendl blue wrote:Perhaps some fans are just hoping that if he sees a greater volume of fans protesting he will come around to his senses and it will be sorted more amicably. Or simply they want blue back but not if it potentially put the club at anymore financial risk than it presently his. Good point though

I hope he sees sense mate but I very much doubt it.

Sadly I can never see Tan backing down.
I can't either but to be honest I don't know a massive amount about him his culture his beliefs except when I read on here its a sign of weakness in the far east to back down. I think that's the same here as well. I don't know what the ideal thing to do is my gut tells me piss him off and he goes and we take the gamble of what comes to us. Then my head says perhaps he can be rational and a turnaround or compromise at least can be sorted and everyone is slightly happier. The only thing I do know it feels right to protest and at this moment about our identity only. wether it does any good i have serious doubts. I know not everyone feels the same and i respect that.

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:47 pm

cendl blue wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:
cendl blue wrote:Perhaps some fans are just hoping that if he sees a greater volume of fans protesting he will come around to his senses and it will be sorted more amicably. Or simply they want blue back but not if it potentially put the club at anymore financial risk than it presently his. Good point though

I hope he sees sense mate but I very much doubt it.

Sadly I can never see Tan backing down.
I can't either but to be honest I don't know a massive amount about him his culture his beliefs except when I read on here its a sign of weakness in the far east to back down. I think that's the same here as well. I don't know what the ideal thing to do is my gut tells me piss him off and he goes and we take the gamble of what comes to us. Then my head says perhaps he can be rational and a turnaround or compromise at least can be sorted and everyone is slightly happier. The only thing I do know it feels right to protest and at this moment about our identity only. wether it does any good i have serious doubts. I know not everyone feels the same and i respect that.


nobody likes to back down...........generally its the ones that want something the most............and there lies the problem.....i think there are now people that have preached hatred and driving him out so much that blue is secondary..

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Fri Mar 14, 2014 12:02 am

Personally the peaceful protest will cause less trouble and only go on to show Cardiff City supporters in a better light and get more people on their side.

If it goes all out from a peaceful protest then I can only see it going down a bad route where we will get only more bad things but with bigger consequences.

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:33 am

DandoCCFC wrote:Personally the peaceful protest will cause less trouble and only go on to show Cardiff City supporters in a better light and get more people on their side.

If it goes all out from a peaceful protest then I can only see it going down a bad route where we will get only more bad things but with bigger consequences.

Think your right there. The biggest potential consequence I suppose is pi####g him off and he goes and leaves us in the lurch, if he's able to ? Other than that the only thing left is the name and the bluebird which will be the final straw for many, myself included.

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:52 am

Pant_yr_awel bluebird wrote:
MalkyandBlueIN wrote:As much as I admire the idea and commitment,and I will be there, it won't work. Tan has said he won't change the club back to blue under his reign. The only way blue will return is if he's gone and has said he would leave if the fans continue to piss him off. So how is a peaceful march with no anti tan songs going to work. I think we are kidding ourselves abit,many need to make a decision,do you want him gone(blue) or not(red)?..nonetheless I'll be there :ayatollah:

The thing is.The more that Tans decisions are opposed in public in the media and on television'and the more he is shown to have made mistakes'the more the buisness community in the far east will question his judgement.They are already.Even his big pal the prime minister of Malaysia has voiced his concerns. If his buisness credibility continues to be questioned the fat cats of Malaysia will begin to distance themselves from him.He would then become a liability.Losing face is seen as weakness.They dont do weakness over there.Keep up the protests.They may just spell the begining of the end for Mr Tan.


You cant even spell the word 'business' yet claim to understand how the business community in the Far East works and thinks. :laughing6:
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Re: This peaceful march won't work

Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:52 am

cendl blue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:Personally the peaceful protest will cause less trouble and only go on to show Cardiff City supporters in a better light and get more people on their side.

If it goes all out from a peaceful protest then I can only see it going down a bad route where we will get only more bad things but with bigger consequences.

Think your right there. The biggest potential consequence I suppose is pi####g him off and he goes and leaves us in the lurch, if he's able to ? Other than that the only thing left is the name and the bluebird which will be the final straw for many, myself included.


Tan is already looking for a way out. You can't tell me he is enjoying this. He is concentrating on making his exit where his lose of face is minimal. Without doubt keeping us red and leaving is a lot better for him than staying and returning us to blue. Returning us to blue will be too much of a brave face for him to put up with.

What we need to do as fans is show our passion for our traditions and that includes our identity and history. Our identity is what we are known and that is as the Bluebirds and the colour BLUE. Our history will show up as us loving the blue but hating the red.

If you have no problem with red then stay away. If you are worried of the consequences if Tan leaves then stay away. Although this protest is about a return to blue and our identity BUT no one will argue with anyone if there is a belief that this protest is the start of a TAN OUT campaign. Tan has made it clear that he does not want blue so really we are asking him to go. However we need to show him and the rest of the world what our BLUE means to us.

If you are passionate about the blue we need you there. Keep it to blue and nothing else. Lets get the message over as clear and loud as possible.

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:00 am

Not sure if the last bit was for me? I am going regardless of how it might or might not turn out and can understand both return to blue/tan out logic. My point was to not go because of something that might not happen is a bit negative that's all

Re: This peaceful march won't work

Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:26 am

Ignore last comment replied on the wrong topic somehow :roll: