O/T Trade Unions.

May I ask how long you and/or your wife have been members and how much you are getting charged per month

I expect you'd help your employees out wouldn't you

If someone said give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!!

But would you help one of your employees if they were in dire straits

As I said previously but you can't seem to grasp my point that I would help anyone out if the deal was that they give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!

Yet people have a go at Wonga and other PayDay lenders for actually giving out cheaper agreements than what this could lead too!!!

May I ask how long you and/or your wife have been members and how much you are getting charged per month

I expect you'd help your employees out wouldn't you

If someone said give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!!

But would you help one of your employees if they were in dire straits

As I said previously but you can't seem to grasp my point that I would help anyone out if the deal was that they give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!

Yet people have a go at Wonga and other PayDay lenders for actually giving out cheaper agreements than what this could lead too!!!

But as has already been mentioned with Legal aid being cut unions provide solicitors etc.. Seriously what is f*cking wrong with you.

May I ask how long you and/or your wife have been members and how much you are getting charged per month

I expect you'd help your employees out wouldn't you

If someone said give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!!

But would you help one of your employees if they were in dire straits

As I said previously but you can't seem to grasp my point that I would help anyone out if the deal was that they give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!

Yet people have a go at Wonga and other PayDay lenders for actually giving out cheaper agreements than what this could lead too!!!

But as has already been mentioned with Legal aid being cut unions provide solicitors etc.. Seriously what is f*cking wrong with you.

They don't provide these services for free you know At the same time then lets say 'thanks' to all the insurance companies and Christmas hamper out there for making payments when they are asked too!!! Unions are like any other business out there

I just don't know what to say to you here Browny.


I might just pretend to agree with you so you go away

Adam, I swear your twisted bitterness gets worse by the day.

Let me explain the major hole in your argument. - Unions do not include 'heating cover' in their deal. Unions provide employment cover, and that's what the 3 quid pays for. The 3 quid does not cover heating. Unite gave him that money when they didn't need to. That is called being nice to a fellow human being in their hour of need. Something you can never understand.

How come you are not condemning British gas for taking the guys money for HEATING COVER and then not helping him when his heating failed? They don't mention that shit in their advert.

f*cking hell Adam stop trying to be a smart arse. CF was in a desperate situation and the union helped. He can afford £3 a week, but due to his poor wife having to give up work didn't have the money for the central heating. You then ruin the story and try and put a damper on things.Its as if you only post when in a bad mood . Good luck CF

TBH this was meant to be a feel good thread and that wanker has turned it around to his own f*cking agenda typical right wing arsehole

May I ask how long you and/or your wife have been members and how much you are getting charged per month

I expect you'd help your employees out wouldn't you

If someone said give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!!

But would you help one of your employees if they were in dire straits

As I said previously but you can't seem to grasp my point that I would help anyone out if the deal was that they give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!

Mr Junta, I feel maybe you haven't grasped the point.
I pay £3 a week into the union because I want to, 4 and a bit years ago when I joined the union I did it of my own free will and the last thing on my mind was getting £900 off them for free.
The union offer me lots of different benefits and I consider them good value without a cash handout, the fact they were there when I needed them proved to me that I made the right decision.
I could cancel my membership a week after The cheque arrives and make a killing then I would be on a winner wouldn't I?
You seem to be implying that they only did it so that I'd keep paying the £3 a week and eventually they would've got that money back with interest, but wouldn't it be easier just to not offer me the money?
I know of cases where the union have helped deceased members families with funeral expenses, you can get free legal advice, free personal and fatal accident cover, help with injury claims, discounted insurance, free eye tests and reduced priced glasses, they also represent you in any disciplinary matters, there are many more benefits so all in all for £3 it's a bargain and I can sort my heating out for the Mrs.

Doctors and nurses do their best.

The way people sue them it is as them go to work trying to hurt people.

I wouldn't dream of suing the NHS, they have enough on their plate as it is.

What if someone you loved wasn't given the correct treatment even though you yourself pointed out to them that your loved one had a rare illness that has to be dealt with in a certain way and certain non treatments could mean curtains to her/him? then 2 different doctors ignore your advise on at least 2 separate occasions and even stop a medication (warfarin and clexine) that was prescribed by his/her consultant leading to numerous blood clots travelling merrily along towards his/her lungs and setting up camp there eventually causing pneumonia and putting their life at risk and spending 3 weeks in intensive care and a year later those blood clots are still resident in the lungs and unlikely to ever move
Ignorance of an illness is no excuse for not doing proper tests and treating the problem in the correct way..the consequences could well be someone's death.

My wife isn't a member and I've been in the Union a little over 4 years at £3 a week.
I think I may have an idea where this question may be leading.

Firstly this with no disrepect to your situation but would you praise a bank/banker for doing something similar..?

My point is that already for 4 years you have paid £3 per week which means that you have already paid them a total of £624. You then wanted £900 so they only needed to give you the money back which you have already given them plus a further £276.

Soby playing with your feelings they now know that by giving you a lump sum of £276 then they will have many years more of membership payments from you which would probably mean that they will be making more off you then if you went to the bank and asked for a loan!!!

I'm pretty sure a banker wouldn't give me a non repayable lump sum of £900 tbh, I mean if all banks did similar then Christ their yearly bonus would take a thrashing.
But I can see where your coming from as my contributions would cover a lot of that £900, but you have to look at the bigger picture there are other benefits from being a union member.

You completely missed me point haven't you. YOU have already paid over 2/3s of the sum they are giving you and they will receive more than the final third from your remaining years of membership!!! Pretty sound investment knowing that by playing with your feelings on this one occasion they would financially benefit many times over!!!!

Adam, I am sorry to say it is YOU that is completely missing the point on this one...

The guy and his wife are going through an extremely tough period in their lives, they needed help and his union (UNITE in this case) were prepared to help out...

How much they have 'paid in' to their union is relatively unimportant, as some will be new and some will have been paying for 30 years plus...

What DOES matter is that the union came to the fore and is there for a LOT of eventualities (legal, pastoral and medical) and NOT just to pick fights with management and organise regular 'strikes' (as more than one or two believe on here)

Frankly, I am dismayed that you would choose such a thread to make such a point when the guy and his wife have just had a little bit of good fortune during what must be a pretty shit period in their lives

To CF64Blue: All I can say is that I am glad your union were able to help and I sincerely hope that your wife's condition is managed as well as can possibly be hope for

I suppose you nicely forgot to read this comment I made before I went on to make my point: Firstly this with no disrepect to your situation

Adam, apologies for delay in getting back to you, but I have a life away from this Forum that occasionally needs my attention

I certainly did read your post and IMHO the 'pre-comment' you refer to is weak at best and in no way excuses your later comments effectively ridiculing CF64Blue's appreciation that his union "did something" for one of its members

with your twisted thinking, I guess everyone should stop doing anything for anyone else, as no matter how well-meaning the intention, there will always be a sad, twisted individual who will WANT to see the negative side to what is a pretty uplifting story, to be fair

That you now troll this Forum looking for opportunities to spout your negative rhetoric does you little (if any) credit and I have to say that on this occasion you have overstepped the mark and should be embarrassed, as there was simply no need to make a political statement out of this particular situation

Not good, fella. Not good

Adam, I swear your twisted bitterness gets worse by the day.

Let me explain the major hole in your argument. - Unions do not include 'heating cover' in their deal. Unions provide employment cover, and that's what the 3 quid pays for. The 3 quid does not cover heating. Unite gave him that money when they didn't need to. That is called being nice to a fellow human being in their hour of need. Something you can never understand.

How come you are not condemning British gas for taking the guys money for HEATING COVER and then not helping him when his heating failedshit in their advert.

Incompletely incorrect and the OP clearly states that in a post later on as they cover other things including furneral arrangements etc.

Surely people should know what they are signing up for..?

May I ask how long you and/or your wife have been members and how much you are getting charged per month

I expect you'd help your employees out wouldn't you

If someone said give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!!

But would you help one of your employees if they were in dire straits

As I said previously but you can't seem to grasp my point that I would help anyone out if the deal was that they give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!

Mr Junta, I feel maybe you haven't grasped the point.
I pay £3 a week into the union because I want to, 4 and a bit years ago when I joined the union I did it of my own free will and the last thing on my mind was getting £900 off them for free.
The union offer me lots of different benefits and I consider them good value without a cash handout, the fact they were there when I needed them proved to me that I made the right decision.
I could cancel my membership a week after The cheque arrives and make a killing then I would be on a winner wouldn't I?
You seem to be implying that they only did it so that I'd keep paying the £3 a week and eventually they would've got that money back with interest, but wouldn't it be easier just to not offer me the money?
I know of cases where the union have helped deceased members families with funeral expenses, you can get free legal advice, free personal and fatal accident cover, help with injury claims, discounted insurance, free eye tests and reduced priced glasses, they also represent you in any disciplinary matters, there are many more benefits so all in all for £3 it's a bargain and I can sort my heating out for the Mrs.

First of all you aren't getting £900 off them for free and secondly very much like insurance companies they relay on the numbers game for example out of everyone who pays their monthly fee only a small percentage asks for help so thats how they make money and offer their bosses big pay packages together with lump sum payments to the Labour Party.

However the next time you are willing to pay someone £3 per week for the rest of your life for a one off £900 payment then please let me know.

Mr Junta I've read enough of your bollocks, you look at it any way you like, I've had a situation and that situation is now resolved to my satisfaction so my wife and myself are now able to live life a little more comfortably.

Adam, I swear your twisted bitterness gets worse by the day.

Let me explain the major hole in your argument. - Unions do not include 'heating cover' in their deal. Unions provide employment cover, and that's what the 3 quid pays for. The 3 quid does not cover heating. Unite gave him that money when they didn't need to. That is called being nice to a fellow human being in their hour of need. Something you can never understand.

How come you are not condemning British gas for taking the guys money for HEATING COVER and then not helping him when his heating failedshit in their advert.

Incompletely incorrect and the OP clearly states that in a post later on as they cover other things including furneral arrangements etc.

Surely people should know what they are signing up for..?

You really are an odious specimen

Adam, I swear your twisted bitterness gets worse by the day.

Let me explain the major hole in your argument. - Unions do not include 'heating cover' in their deal. Unions provide employment cover, and that's what the 3 quid pays for. The 3 quid does not cover heating. Unite gave him that money when they didn't need to. That is called being nice to a fellow human being in their hour of need. Something you can never understand.

How come you are not condemning British gas for taking the guys money for HEATING COVER and then not helping him when his heating failed? They don't mention that shit in their advert.

nail on head time good luck to you cf and hope yr wife gets better

May I ask how long you and/or your wife have been members and how much you are getting charged per month

I expect you'd help your employees out wouldn't you

If someone said give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!!

But would you help one of your employees if they were in dire straits

As I said previously but you can't seem to grasp my point that I would help anyone out if the deal was that they give me £900 and I'll pay you £3 per week for the rest of my working life then give me a lift to the cash point!!

Mr Junta, I feel maybe you haven't grasped the point.
I pay £3 a week into the union because I want to, 4 and a bit years ago when I joined the union I did it of my own free will and the last thing on my mind was getting £900 off them for free.
The union offer me lots of different benefits and I consider them good value without a cash handout, the fact they were there when I needed them proved to me that I made the right decision.
I could cancel my membership a week after The cheque arrives and make a killing then I would be on a winner wouldn't I?
You seem to be implying that they only did it so that I'd keep paying the £3 a week and eventually they would've got that money back with interest, but wouldn't it be easier just to not offer me the money?
I know of cases where the union have helped deceased members families with funeral expenses, you can get free legal advice, free personal and fatal accident cover, help with injury claims, discounted insurance, free eye tests and reduced priced glasses, they also represent you in any disciplinary matters, there are many more benefits so all in all for £3 it's a bargain and I can sort my heating out for the Mrs.

First of all you aren't getting £900 off them for free and secondly very much like insurance companies they relay on the numbers game for example out of everyone who pays their monthly fee only a small percentage asks for help so thats how they make money and offer their bosses big pay packages together with lump sum payments to the Labour Party.

However the next time you are willing to pay someone £3 per week for the rest of your life for a one off £900 payment then please let me know.

Adam, off the shit you've put on here, that is by FAR the most evil, vile and disgusting thing you've said...that I've read at least.