PC Simon Chivers recalls worst night of football violence

I was 10 at the time, and I was set in Block C, 7 or 8 seats away from the Jacks in block B.of the Grandstand. Can safely say that is most afraid I've ever been in a football ground. The sight of the old wooden chairs flying towards my head stayed with me for a long time. The sight of elderly fans running for their life (if you had take one of those chairs to the head it could have killed you) is something I never wish to see again.

my point is,,not that it was not frightening for 8 year olds and old age...........my point is there were thousands of Cardiff willing to oblige them...........who were not under 10 or over 70............

No there weren't. There were just lots of Cardiff fans who ran on the pitch thats all! ........and then they just stopped and went back to where they came from. I'm not being funny here but it was your ground being torn apart and you did f**k all about it! Don't pretend it was anything else! [/quote

I was in block c that night with my 13 year old daughter and you definitely tore the seats out and threw them in our direction.
Nobody takes credit for anything that night and the two main culprits were the club and the police.
At the end of the day the simple answer was to open the main gates to the open grange end and let you straight in but I suppose the clubs greed for the gate money overrode public safety.

Agreed Steve, what happened that night could easily have been avoided but somehow it wasn't. I honestly wonder why?

the people that came tore seats out and threw them at children and pensioners should have been labeled the scum of the earth and cowards.............
instead the media chose to give them the hooligan street cred they so yearned..
and this cop {who obviously wasnt even there }..is infact adding to the riot myth..

Theres a lot more to it than that, and to think otherwise is biased and blinkered in the extreme. You really have to ask yourself why 1000 drunken Swansea fans were allowed to arrive at the halt 15 mins before kick off when at the time anyone who was anyone would have been outside of Ninian Park. Trust me we fought our way down Sloper Road and even when we got inside the main stand there were battles on the staircase and underneath the seating. By the time we got up into the stand we were full of adrenalin and most as I said were drunk (it was the day before black Friday ffs)! Yes, it was terrible what happened inside, but to me the game should never have gone ahead on that day, and am still positive in my mind that SWP 'orchestrated' the situation so that fans would be banned from future games.

thats what you call fighting your way up sloper road?.... Cardiff surged out from behind the canton into you........and to be fair a lot stood their ground..police everywhere 3 mins tops.......who the f**k were you fighting on the staircase? youy had blocks A and B,to yourselves............you attacked the family enclosure and the center stand.............i fully understand the excuses id be embarassed too ..

were you "tached up" jack? them and your stonewash jeans confirmed your
position as the second city

Were you 'touche'd up' cos you certainly took it in the ass that night!

ere you 'touche'd up' cos you certainly took it in the ass that night!
excuse me?

I was 10 at the time, and I was set in Block C, 7 or 8 seats away from the Jacks in block B.of the Grandstand. Can safely say that is most afraid I've ever been in a football ground. The sight of the old wooden chairs flying towards my head stayed with me for a long time. The sight of elderly fans running for their life (if you had take one of those chairs to the head it could have killed you) is something I never wish to see again.

my point is,,not that it was not frightening for 8 year olds and old age...........my point is there were thousands of Cardiff willing to oblige them...........who were not under 10 or over 70............

No there weren't. There were just lots of Cardiff fans who ran on the pitch thats all! ........and then they just stopped and went back to where they came from. I'm not being funny here but it was your ground being torn apart and you did f**k all about it! Don't pretend it was anything else! [/quote

I was in block c that night with my 13 year old daughter and you definitely tore the seats out and threw them in our direction.
Nobody takes credit for anything that night and the two main culprits were the club and the police.
At the end of the day the simple answer was to open the main gates to the open grange end and let you straight in but I suppose the clubs greed for the gate money overrode public safety.

Agreed Steve, what happened that night could easily have been avoided but somehow it wasn't. I honestly wonder why?

re where you were in the ground.........was obvious Rick had dollar signs running........the police should have insisted you were on the grange end though...........but you attacked old couples and children ..and have the nerve to sing swim away.....and call US the scum....

Those kids and women must have been strong as f**k to chuck the seats back at us

the people that came tore seats out and threw them at children and pensioners should have been labeled the scum of the earth and cowards.............
instead the media chose to give them the hooligan street cred they so yearned..
and this cop {who obviously wasnt even there }..is infact adding to the riot myth..

Theres a lot more to it than that, and to think otherwise is biased and blinkered in the extreme. You really have to ask yourself why 1000 drunken Swansea fans were allowed to arrive at the halt 15 mins before kick off when at the time anyone who was anyone would have been outside of Ninian Park. Trust me we fought our way down Sloper Road and even when we got inside the main stand there were battles on the staircase and underneath the seating. By the time we got up into the stand we were full of adrenalin and most as I said were drunk (it was the day before black Friday ffs)! Yes, it was terrible what happened inside, but to me the game should never have gone ahead on that day, and am still positive in my mind that SWP 'orchestrated' the situation so that fans would be banned from future games.

thats what you call fighting your way up sloper road?.... Cardiff surged out from behind the canton into you........and to be fair a lot stood their ground..police everywhere 3 mins tops.......who the f**k were you fighting on the staircase? youy had blocks A and B,to yourselves............you attacked the family enclosure and the center stand.............i fully understand the excuses id be embarassed too ..

You obviously have no idea what went on that night, I doubt if you were even there! I certainly do not know what went on inside the ground before we got there, but trust me from the moment we got in, there were Cardiff fans everywhere until we got into the stand. I was there you weren't! I'm not embarrassed at all, rather you should be by your failure to see your stand being torn to shreds and doing f**k all about it!

I was 10 at the time, and I was set in Block C, 7 or 8 seats away from the Jacks in block B.of the Grandstand. Can safely say that is most afraid I've ever been in a football ground. The sight of the old wooden chairs flying towards my head stayed with me for a long time. The sight of elderly fans running for their life (if you had take one of those chairs to the head it could have killed you) is something I never wish to see again.

my point is,,not that it was not frightening for 8 year olds and old age...........my point is there were thousands of Cardiff willing to oblige them...........who were not under 10 or over 70............

No there weren't. There were just lots of Cardiff fans who ran on the pitch thats all! ........and then they just stopped and went back to where they came from. I'm not being funny here but it was your ground being torn apart and you did f**k all about it! Don't pretend it was anything else!

i was inside jubilee park.......there were thousands of Cardiff pushing against the police as you lot came off the halt..you went up sloper road on the pavement..made no effort to go for Cardiff............made no effort to get on the pitch..Italian tanks spring to mind.........lots of effort to maim the innocent though..

the people that came tore seats out and threw them at children and pensioners should have been labeled the scum of the earth and cowards.............
instead the media chose to give them the hooligan street cred they so yearned..
and this cop {who obviously wasnt even there }..is infact adding to the riot myth..

Theres a lot more to it than that, and to think otherwise is biased and blinkered in the extreme. You really have to ask yourself why 1000 drunken Swansea fans were allowed to arrive at the halt 15 mins before kick off when at the time anyone who was anyone would have been outside of Ninian Park. Trust me we fought our way down Sloper Road and even when we got inside the main stand there were battles on the staircase and underneath the seating. By the time we got up into the stand we were full of adrenalin and most as I said were drunk (it was the day before black Friday ffs)! Yes, it was terrible what happened inside, but to me the game should never have gone ahead on that day, and am still positive in my mind that SWP 'orchestrated' the situation so that fans would be banned from future games.

thats what you call fighting your way up sloper road?.... Cardiff surged out from behind the canton into you........and to be fair a lot stood their ground..police everywhere 3 mins tops.......who the f**k were you fighting on the staircase? youy had blocks A and B,to yourselves............you attacked the family enclosure and the center stand.............i fully understand the excuses id be embarassed too ..

You obviously have no idea what went on that night, I doubt if you were even there! I certainly do not know what went on inside the ground before we got there, but trust me from the moment we got in, there were Cardiff fans everywhere until we got into the stand. I was there you weren't! I'm not embarrassed at all, rather you should be by your failure to see your stand being torn to shreds and doing f**k all about it!

cardiff were everywhere? on the stairwells and under the stand?.. but i wast there.....lol.....get lost..go and tell your grandchildren how back in the day youd have filled them in.

I was 10 at the time, and I was set in Block C, 7 or 8 seats away from the Jacks in block B.of the Grandstand. Can safely say that is most afraid I've ever been in a football ground. The sight of the old wooden chairs flying towards my head stayed with me for a long time. The sight of elderly fans running for their life (if you had take one of those chairs to the head it could have killed you) is something I never wish to see again.

my point is,,not that it was not frightening for 8 year olds and old age...........my point is there were thousands of Cardiff willing to oblige them...........who were not under 10 or over 70............

No there weren't. There were just lots of Cardiff fans who ran on the pitch thats all! ........and then they just stopped and went back to where they came from. I'm not being funny here but it was your ground being torn apart and you did f**k all about it! Don't pretend it was anything else!

i was inside jubilee park.......there were thousands of Cardiff pushing against the police as you lot came off the halt..you went up sloper road on the pavement..made no effort to go for Cardiff............made no effort to get on the pitch..Italian tanks spring to mind.........lots of effort to maim the innocent though..

As I said, your stand got torn to shreds and you lot stood by like a bunch of girls and did nothing! Couldn't even defend your own stadium and thats the lowest of the low. I'm sure even Torquay would make some sort of effort, but you lot? ....Nah!

I was 10 at the time, and I was set in Block C, 7 or 8 seats away from the Jacks in block B.of the Grandstand. Can safely say that is most afraid I've ever been in a football ground. The sight of the old wooden chairs flying towards my head stayed with me for a long time. The sight of elderly fans running for their life (if you had take one of those chairs to the head it could have killed you) is something I never wish to see again.

my point is,,not that it was not frightening for 8 year olds and old age...........my point is there were thousands of Cardiff willing to oblige them...........who were not under 10 or over 70............

No there weren't. There were just lots of Cardiff fans who ran on the pitch thats all! ........and then they just stopped and went back to where they came from. I'm not being funny here but it was your ground being torn apart and you did f**k all about it! Don't pretend it was anything else!

i was inside jubilee park.......there were thousands of Cardiff pushing against the police as you lot came off the halt..you went up sloper road on the pavement..made no effort to go for Cardiff............made no effort to get on the pitch..Italian tanks spring to mind.........lots of effort to maim the innocent though..

As I said, your stand got torn to shreds and you lot stood by like a bunch of girls and did nothing! Couldn't even defend your own stadium and thats the lowest of the low. I'm sure even Torquay would make some sort of effort, but you lot? ....Nah!

yeah..we shit it big time...........why were you ALL arriving 15mins b4 the game?.. were you all held captive in Swansea ALL day long. go and beat some oldies up eh

every seat you threw at us in the grandstand was returned with pleasure.

Anyone remember the 'free' snicker bars?

I was 10 at the time, and I was set in Block C, 7 or 8 seats away from the Jacks in block B.of the Grandstand. Can safely say that is most afraid I've ever been in a football ground. The sight of the old wooden chairs flying towards my head stayed with me for a long time. The sight of elderly fans running for their life (if you had take one of those chairs to the head it could have killed you) is something I never wish to see again.

my point is,,not that it was not frightening for 8 year olds and old age...........my point is there were thousands of Cardiff willing to oblige them...........who were not under 10 or over 70............

No there weren't. There were just lots of Cardiff fans who ran on the pitch thats all! ........and then they just stopped and went back to where they came from. I'm not being funny here but it was your ground being torn apart and you did f**k all about it! Don't pretend it was anything else!

i was inside jubilee park.......there were thousands of Cardiff pushing against the police as you lot came off the halt..you went up sloper road on the pavement..made no effort to go for Cardiff............made no effort to get on the pitch..Italian tanks spring to mind.........lots of effort to maim the innocent though..

As I said, your stand got torn to shreds and you lot stood by like a bunch of girls and did nothing! Couldn't even defend your own stadium and thats the lowest of the low. I'm sure even Torquay would make some sort of effort, but you lot? ....Nah!

On the pitch right in front of you and all you had to do was jump down from the top tier and join in. Why didn't you ?

its the standard excuse......Cardiff didnt try hard enough...........Swansea of course dont try full stop..

The only 'girls' that night were the mighty Joke Army throwing seats at children and their parents

the people that came tore seats out and threw them at children and pensioners should have been labeled the scum of the earth and cowards.............
instead the media chose to give them the hooligan street cred they so yearned..
and this cop {who obviously wasnt even there }..is infact adding to the riot myth..

Theres a lot more to it than that, and to think otherwise is biased and blinkered in the extreme. You really have to ask yourself why 1000 drunken Swansea fans were allowed to arrive at the halt 15 mins before kick off when at the time anyone who was anyone would have been outside of Ninian Park. Trust me we fought our way down Sloper Road and even when we got inside the main stand there were battles on the staircase and underneath the seating. By the time we got up into the stand we were full of adrenalin and most as I said were drunk (it was the day before black Friday ffs)! Yes, it was terrible what happened inside, but to me the game should never have gone ahead on that day, and am still positive in my mind that SWP 'orchestrated' the situation so that fans would be banned from future games.

thats what you call fighting your way up sloper road?.... Cardiff surged out from behind the canton into you........and to be fair a lot stood their ground..police everywhere 3 mins tops.......who the f**k were you fighting on the staircase? youy had blocks A and B,to yourselves............you attacked the family enclosure and the center stand.............i fully understand the excuses id be embarassed too ..

You obviously have no idea what went on that night, I doubt if you were even there! I certainly do not know what went on inside the ground before we got there, but trust me from the moment we got in, there were Cardiff fans everywhere until we got into the stand. I was there you weren't! I'm not embarrassed at all, rather you should be by your failure to see your stand being torn to shreds and doing f**k all about it!

cardiff were everywhere? on the stairwells and under the stand?.. but i wast there.....lol.....get lost..go and tell your grandchildren how back in the day youd have filled them in.

You were at the back of the Canton AND under the stairwell! f**k me, your David Copperfield aren't you!
But hey! Look back at my original input into this. It was a shocking night and no one else was to blame except the police or your club. If the situations were reversed exactly the same thing would have happened. Or are you saying 1000 drunken Cardiff fans would have behaved impeccably under similar circumstances? Don't be tw*t and try too be more smart eh?

No one rates them . The only book that does is the one with the 4 tough gays on the cover. Small town . Small mob. Cardiff just took the piss

the people that came tore seats out and threw them at children and pensioners should have been labeled the scum of the earth and cowards.............
instead the media chose to give them the hooligan street cred they so yearned..
and this cop {who obviously wasnt even there }..is infact adding to the riot myth..

Theres a lot more to it than that, and to think otherwise is biased and blinkered in the extreme. You really have to ask yourself why 1000 drunken Swansea fans were allowed to arrive at the halt 15 mins before kick off when at the time anyone who was anyone would have been outside of Ninian Park. Trust me we fought our way down Sloper Road and even when we got inside the main stand there were battles on the staircase and underneath the seating. By the time we got up into the stand we were full of adrenalin and most as I said were drunk (it was the day before black Friday ffs)! Yes, it was terrible what happened inside, but to me the game should never have gone ahead on that day, and am still positive in my mind that SWP 'orchestrated' the situation so that fans would be banned from future games.

thats what you call fighting your way up sloper road?.... Cardiff surged out from behind the canton into you........and to be fair a lot stood their ground..police everywhere 3 mins tops.......who the f**k were you fighting on the staircase? youy had blocks A and B,to yourselves............you attacked the family enclosure and the center stand.............i fully understand the excuses id be embarassed too ..

You obviously have no idea what went on that night, I doubt if you were even there! I certainly do not know what went on inside the ground before we got there, but trust me from the moment we got in, there were Cardiff fans everywhere until we got into the stand. I was there you weren't! I'm not embarrassed at all, rather you should be by your failure to see your stand being torn to shreds and doing f**k all about it!

and i have a better idea than you........ive also seen the footage shot by that mong on the train down here........you looked much tougher and were more vocal beating the train up than you were in sloper road..........

I was 10 at the time, and I was set in Block C, 7 or 8 seats away from the Jacks in block B.of the Grandstand. Can safely say that is most afraid I've ever been in a football ground. The sight of the old wooden chairs flying towards my head stayed with me for a long time. The sight of elderly fans running for their life (if you had take one of those chairs to the head it could have killed you) is something I never wish to see again.

my point is,,not that it was not frightening for 8 year olds and old age...........my point is there were thousands of Cardiff willing to oblige them...........who were not under 10 or over 70............

No there weren't. There were just lots of Cardiff fans who ran on the pitch thats all! ........and then they just stopped and went back to where they came from. I'm not being funny here but it was your ground being torn apart and you did f**k all about it! Don't pretend it was anything else!

i was inside jubilee park.......there were thousands of Cardiff pushing against the police as you lot came off the halt..you went up sloper road on the pavement..made no effort to go for Cardiff............made no effort to get on the pitch..Italian tanks spring to mind.........lots of effort to maim the innocent though..

As I said, your stand got torn to shreds and you lot stood by like a bunch of girls and did nothing! Couldn't even defend your own stadium and thats the lowest of the low. I'm sure even Torquay would make some sort of effort, but you lot? ....Nah!

On the pitch right in front of you and all you had to do was jump down from the top tier and join in. Why didn't you ?

You stopped 40/50 yards short of us! Why? We were tearing your stand apart, it was your call!

I was 10 at the time, and I was set in Block C, 7 or 8 seats away from the Jacks in block B.of the Grandstand. Can safely say that is most afraid I've ever been in a football ground. The sight of the old wooden chairs flying towards my head stayed with me for a long time. The sight of elderly fans running for their life (if you had take one of those chairs to the head it could have killed you) is something I never wish to see again.

my point is,,not that it was not frightening for 8 year olds and old age...........my point is there were thousands of Cardiff willing to oblige them...........who were not under 10 or over 70............

No there weren't. There were just lots of Cardiff fans who ran on the pitch thats all! ........and then they just stopped and went back to where they came from. I'm not being funny here but it was your ground being torn apart and you did f**k all about it! Don't pretend it was anything else!

i was inside jubilee park.......there were thousands of Cardiff pushing against the police as you lot came off the halt..you went up sloper road on the pavement..made no effort to go for Cardiff............made no effort to get on the pitch..Italian tanks spring to mind.........lots of effort to maim the innocent though..

As I said, your stand got torn to shreds and you lot stood by like a bunch of girls and did nothing! Couldn't even defend your own stadium and thats the lowest of the low. I'm sure even Torquay would make some sort of effort, but you lot? ....Nah!

On the pitch right in front of you and all you had to do was jump down from the top tier and join in. Why didn't you ?

You stopped 40/50 yards short of us! Why? We were tearing your stand apart, it was your call!

ahh right........so we didnt even get half way across the pitch........the news footage was fake? i supose you think salmon live in trees as well..........you lot made no effort what so ever to move one row down let alone get on the pitch to meet us......

it was the police fault
was our clubs fault
you were all drunk,but remember everything to suit.
Cardiff fans should always make more effort.

no........you attacked people that posed no threat to you......its what you do
if anyone ever gets around to writting a hooligan book soley about attacking pensioners and children....you will be the top firm

the people that came tore seats out and threw them at children and pensioners should have been labeled the scum of the earth and cowards.............
instead the media chose to give them the hooligan street cred they so yearned..
and this cop {who obviously wasnt even there }..is infact adding to the riot myth..

Theres a lot more to it than that, and to think otherwise is biased and blinkered in the extreme. You really have to ask yourself why 1000 drunken Swansea fans were allowed to arrive at the halt 15 mins before kick off when at the time anyone who was anyone would have been outside of Ninian Park. Trust me we fought our way down Sloper Road and even when we got inside the main stand there were battles on the staircase and underneath the seating. By the time we got up into the stand we were full of adrenalin and most as I said were drunk (it was the day before black Friday ffs)! Yes, it was terrible what happened inside, but to me the game should never have gone ahead on that day, and am still positive in my mind that SWP 'orchestrated' the situation so that fans would be banned from future games.

thats what you call fighting your way up sloper road?.... Cardiff surged out from behind the canton into you........and to be fair a lot stood their ground..police everywhere 3 mins tops.......who the f**k were you fighting on the staircase? youy had blocks A and B,to yourselves............you attacked the family enclosure and the center stand.............i fully understand the excuses id be embarassed too ..

You obviously have no idea what went on that night, I doubt if you were even there! I certainly do not know what went on inside the ground before we got there, but trust me from the moment we got in, there were Cardiff fans everywhere until we got into the stand. I was there you weren't! I'm not embarrassed at all, rather you should be by your failure to see your stand being torn to shreds and doing f**k all about it!

cardiff were everywhere? on the stairwells and under the stand?.. but i wast there.....lol.....get lost..go and tell your grandchildren how back in the day youd have filled them in.

You were at the back of the Canton AND under the stairwell! f**k me, your David Copperfield aren't you!
But hey! Look back at my original input into this. It was a shocking night and no one else was to blame except the police or your club. If the situations were reversed exactly the same thing would have happened. Or are you saying 1000 drunken Cardiff fans would have behaved impeccably under similar circumstances? Don't be tw*t and try too be more smart eh?

it was you that made the ridiculous coment that you had to fight your way up the stairs into the stand..........i said it back taking the piss...........and no ive never seen a thousand of anyones fans attacking the family stand........quite unique....drunk?..most fans were drunk back then.............and the club and police for all their short comings..didnt attack pensioners or kids.......

right..enough of this.......youre going to defend your fellow fans no matter what..........i supose i would to if ours had behaved that way and i was on planet Swans
not that id ever go on planet Swans...........but each to their own

right..enough of this.......youre going to defend your fellow fans no matter what..........i supose i would to if ours had behaved that way and i was on planet Swans
not that id ever go on planet Swans...........but each to their own

Fair plays to you mate. In jubilee park waiting for the jacks, attacked them coming from behind the canton stand and was in the grandstand as well(I accept that you wasn't in the grandstand)
No wonder you use to do us

right..enough of this.......youre going to defend your fellow fans no matter what..........i supose i would to if ours had behaved that way and i was on planet Swans
not that id ever go on planet Swans...........but each to their own

Fair plays to you mate. In jubilee park waiting for the jacks, attacked them coming from behind the canton stand and was in the grandstand as well(I accept that you wasn't in the grandstand)
No wonder you use to do us

nope..try reading what i wrote and not a jacks attempt to belittle the truth and reality............being in jubilee park ,and i wasnt waiting.{.f**k me.who would expect the mental jack army to still b on a train with 15 mins to kick off???????}. but i was in there when they arrived. so had a view of initially off the halt and bridge and then as i walked down a view f sloper road.....read my first account.........as for them having to fight their way down sloper rd,the police had cleared it { novel idea }.. but f**k me..the police club had allowed cardiff into the stands blocks A and B {SARCASM } as they had to fight their way up the stairs and there was also fighting under the stand{ this bit is not my account, its the rubbish he wrote } .{ it was 1993 Cardiff didnt go in A block in those days.......i wrote a true and honest account of what i had seen...........i can only imagine your even more bitter ,jealous and have a bigger chip than the jacks do........fair play a rubbish post.........btw extra large steak house chips on sale at Asda

No one rates them . The only book that does is the one with the 4 tough gays on the cover. Small town . Small mob. Cardiff just took the piss

as ive said..if there was a book all about attacking the innocent they would be a top mob in it............and they could write their own book of excuses.............we were drunk.........most of our boys were down sanfields drinking unaware you were in the city for 6 hours........your lucky our main boys got turned back in sarn park...........etc etc etc..........

Pointless going on about Swansea,they have got f**k all and never have.There's been much much worse violence than this,anyone can throw seats ffs.We took over their f*cking town centre unopposed-now that's how you do it.Look at the photo of their fans,all f*cking kids-nothing will ever change with them(shithouses).Even some of their old heads admit 1991 was an embarrassment for them,poor twats!

Pointless going on about Swansea,they have got f**k all and never have.There's been much much worse violence than this,anyone can throw seats ffs.We took over their f*cking town centre unopposed-now that's how you do it.Look at the photo of their fans,all f*cking kids-nothing will ever change with them(shithouses).Even some of their old heads admit 1991 was an embarrassment for them,poor twats!

Still doesn't hide the fact of the swimaway truth that happened and is laughed about by every lad in a firm all across the country for the last 30 years. 1 nil to the jacks I say and wouldn't consider ripping out seats in the grandstand 91 is anything to brag about, but in fairness there was also a lot thrown back, so hardly just families in there was it

Pointless going on about Swansea,they have got f**k all and never have.There's been much much worse violence than this,anyone can throw seats ffs.We took over their f*cking town centre unopposed-now that's how you do it.Look at the photo of their fans,all f*cking kids-nothing will ever change with them(shithouses).Even some of their old heads admit 1991 was an embarrassment for them,poor twats!

Still doesn't hide the fact of the swimaway truth that happened and is laughed about by every lad in a firm all across the country for the last 30 years. 1 nil to the jacks I say and wouldn't consider ripping out seats in the grandstand 91 is anything to brag about, but in fairness there was also a lot thrown back, so hardly just families in there was it

of course people threw back.....ANYONE would.. but who sat in the center of a granstand back in those days?
and just so you know......a lot of clubs do do the swim away as a wind up........but i think its you lot look ridiculous over it,NOBODY and i mean nobody gives you any credit for it..or any credit full stop.......most people { other fans } do realise that if it really had been a major incident..more than a couple of hundred jacks and the evening post would know about it..........how many arrests were there? bans? jail sentences? people in hospital?
the whole world thinks you are clowns