Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:33 pm
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:34 pm
Kenfig Blue wrote:I would say Tans money got us promoted personally, without Tans money we would be a mid table champ team under malky no doubt.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:36 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:I would say Tans money got us promoted personally, without Tans money we would be a mid table champ team under malky no doubt.
We wouldnt even be that.
Without Tans money we would have either gone to the wall, or would be where Pompey are right now, or worse.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:37 pm
Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:38 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
What a stupid f*cking comparison
They have enough quality to cope with signings that dont quite work.
A club our size paying 10m for Cornelius not to work is like Real Madrid cutting their losses on Gareth Bale and selling him back to Spurs for 30m.
Or United selling Mata for 9m cos it didnt work.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:45 pm
Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
What a stupid f*cking comparison
They have enough quality to cope with signings that dont quite work.
A club our size paying 10m for Cornelius not to work is like Real Madrid cutting their losses on Gareth Bale and selling him back to Spurs for 30m.
Or United selling Mata for 9m cos it didnt work.
Of course you can make a comparison as mypoint is no matter who the manager is not ever signing will work
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:46 pm
Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:48 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
What a stupid f*cking comparison
They have enough quality to cope with signings that dont quite work.
A club our size paying 10m for Cornelius not to work is like Real Madrid cutting their losses on Gareth Bale and selling him back to Spurs for 30m.
Or United selling Mata for 9m cos it didnt work.
Of course you can make a comparison as mypoint is no matter who the manager is not ever signing will work
If you want to make comparisons compare how Malky spent his budget compared to Steve Bruce and then come back and talk some sense.
Fergie and Mourinho never 30% of their transfer budget on on an unknown kid who turned out to be a flop.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:48 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
What a stupid f*cking comparison
They have enough quality to cope with signings that dont quite work.
A club our size paying 10m for Cornelius not to work is like Real Madrid cutting their losses on Gareth Bale and selling him back to Spurs for 30m.
Or United selling Mata for 9m cos it didnt work.
Of course you can make a comparison as mypoint is no matter who the manager is not ever signing will work
If you want to make comparisons compare how Malky spent his budget compared to Steve Bruce and then come back and talk some sense.
Fergie and Mourinho never 30% of their transfer budget on on an unknown kid who turned out to be a flop.
Plus when you are winning games at the rate of Fergie and Mourinho your shite signings are forgiveable.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:51 pm
Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
How can you compare the richest clubs in the world to cardiff, they could buy 5 duds and still be fine. Plus it wasn't 1 dud malky signed it was a string of them total balls up, destroyed any chance of us staying up, also paid way over the odds for Medel.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:54 pm
Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
How can you compare the richest clubs in the world to cardiff, they could buy 5 duds and still be fine. Plus it wasn't 1 dud malky signed it was a string of them total balls up, destroyed any chance of us staying up, also paid way over the odds for Medel.
So in your view point then Malky HAS to be better than Ferguson and Morhino in the transfer market because they can afford to buy 5 plus duds and still be fine!!!
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:55 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:I would say Tans money got us promoted personally, without Tans money we would be a mid table champ team under malky no doubt.
We wouldnt even be that.
Without Tans money we would have either gone to the wall, or would be where Pompey are right now, or worse.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:56 pm
Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
How can you compare the richest clubs in the world to cardiff, they could buy 5 duds and still be fine. Plus it wasn't 1 dud malky signed it was a string of them total balls up, destroyed any chance of us staying up, also paid way over the odds for Medel.
So in your view point then Malky HAS to be better than Ferguson and Morhino in the transfer market because they can afford to buy 5 plus duds and still be fine!!!
Malky had no room for mistake unlike Fergie and moruinho, he doesn't have to be better but alot more shrewd just like Brucy and Pulis who have made no mistakes on a tiny budget. Total balls up only 1 player from the 40+ mil has been worth it and that is caulker, every1 else was shit and Medel was way overpriced, 3 players could of been bought for Medels price.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:56 pm
Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:I would say Tans money got us promoted personally, without Tans money we would be a mid table champ team under malky no doubt.
We wouldnt even be that.
Without Tans money we would have either gone to the wall, or would be where Pompey are right now, or worse.
You can't say that FFS as no-one can say that because simply no-one will ever know
Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:59 pm
mjw6150 wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:I would say Tans money got us promoted personally, without Tans money we would be a mid table champ team under malky no doubt.
We wouldnt even be that.
Without Tans money we would have either gone to the wall, or would be where Pompey are right now, or worse.
You can't say that FFS as no-one can say that because simply no-one will ever know
We had millions of debt to HMRC who had already given us multiple winding up orders. If Tan hadn't invested after the Blackpool final that would have been it for CCFC I'm sure.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:01 pm
Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
What a stupid f*cking comparison
They have enough quality to cope with signings that dont quite work.
A club our size paying 10m for Cornelius not to work is like Real Madrid cutting their losses on Gareth Bale and selling him back to Spurs for 30m.
Or United selling Mata for 9m cos it didnt work.
Of course you can make a comparison as mypoint is no matter who the manager is not ever signing will work
If you want to make comparisons compare how Malky spent his budget compared to Steve Bruce and then come back and talk some sense.
Fergie and Mourinho never 30% of their transfer budget on on an unknown kid who turned out to be a flop.
Plus when you are winning games at the rate of Fergie and Mourinho your shite signings are forgiveable.
So Ferguson never blew an even bigger percentage of his transfer budget on Veron then did he!!!!
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:02 pm
Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
How can you compare the richest clubs in the world to cardiff, they could buy 5 duds and still be fine. Plus it wasn't 1 dud malky signed it was a string of them total balls up, destroyed any chance of us staying up, also paid way over the odds for Medel.
So in your view point then Malky HAS to be better than Ferguson and Morhino in the transfer market because they can afford to buy 5 plus duds and still be fine!!!
Malky had no room for mistake unlike Fergie and moruinho, he doesn't have to be better but alot more shrewd just like Brucy and Pulis who have made no mistakes on a tiny budget. Total balls up only 1 player from the 40+ mil has been worth it and that is caulker, every1 else was shit and Medel was way overpriced, 3 players could of been bought for Medels price.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:03 pm
Military Junta wrote:mjw6150 wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:I would say Tans money got us promoted personally, without Tans money we would be a mid table champ team under malky no doubt.
We wouldnt even be that.
Without Tans money we would have either gone to the wall, or would be where Pompey are right now, or worse.
You can't say that FFS as no-one can say that because simply no-one will ever know
We had millions of debt to HMRC who had already given us multiple winding up orders. If Tan hadn't invested after the Blackpool final that would have been it for CCFC I'm sure.
It impossible for you or anyone to know that would have happened. I wish people would stop trying to predict the impossible on here at times.
FACT is that NO-ONE will ever know that it would have happened
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:05 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
What a stupid f*cking comparison
They have enough quality to cope with signings that dont quite work.
A club our size paying 10m for Cornelius not to work is like Real Madrid cutting their losses on Gareth Bale and selling him back to Spurs for 30m.
Or United selling Mata for 9m cos it didnt work.
Of course you can make a comparison as mypoint is no matter who the manager is not ever signing will work
If you want to make comparisons compare how Malky spent his budget compared to Steve Bruce and then come back and talk some sense.
Fergie and Mourinho never 30% of their transfer budget on on an unknown kid who turned out to be a flop.
Plus when you are winning games at the rate of Fergie and Mourinho your shite signings are forgiveable.
So Ferguson never blew an even bigger percentage of his transfer budget on Veron then did he!!!!
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I dont know what Uniteds budget was that window but put it this way 28m was a fraction of what that United squad was worth.
It was hardly an unkown signing, Veron was regarded as one of the best in the world, it just didnt work at United and United had Scholes, Giggs, Keane.etc and were still winning games.
They also sold him for 17m. United losing 11m on a player is like Cardiff losing 120k on a player.
If Cornelius was signed for 2m and 15k a week no-one would batter an eyelid. To spend 8.5m and make him the highest earner when he had only played 30 odd games. Craziness and unforgivable.
As I said if you want to make comparisons lets compare clubs on a similair keel and how they spent their budget. Hull and Palace have squads just as good as ours for a fraction of the cost.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:05 pm
Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
How can you compare the richest clubs in the world to cardiff, they could buy 5 duds and still be fine. Plus it wasn't 1 dud malky signed it was a string of them total balls up, destroyed any chance of us staying up, also paid way over the odds for Medel.
So in your view point then Malky HAS to be better than Ferguson and Morhino in the transfer market because they can afford to buy 5 plus duds and still be fine!!!
Malky had no room for mistake unlike Fergie and moruinho, he doesn't have to be better but alot more shrewd just like Brucy and Pulis who have made no mistakes on a tiny budget. Total balls up only 1 player from the 40+ mil has been worth it and that is caulker, every1 else was shit and Medel was way overpriced, 3 players could of been bought for Medels price.
Would you pay £8million for the same Kenwyne Jones which is playing for Cardiff..? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 905368.stm
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:06 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:mjw6150 wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:I would say Tans money got us promoted personally, without Tans money we would be a mid table champ team under malky no doubt.
We wouldnt even be that.
Without Tans money we would have either gone to the wall, or would be where Pompey are right now, or worse.
You can't say that FFS as no-one can say that because simply no-one will ever know
We had millions of debt to HMRC who had already given us multiple winding up orders. If Tan hadn't invested after the Blackpool final that would have been it for CCFC I'm sure.
It impossible for you or anyone to know that would have happened. I wish people would stop trying to predict the impossible on here at times.
FACT is that NO-ONE will ever know that it would have happened
Ridsdale had already spent the following season ticket money, who was going to save us? the tooth fairy, santa claus, the easter bunny?
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:08 pm
Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
How can you compare the richest clubs in the world to cardiff, they could buy 5 duds and still be fine. Plus it wasn't 1 dud malky signed it was a string of them total balls up, destroyed any chance of us staying up, also paid way over the odds for Medel.
So in your view point then Malky HAS to be better than Ferguson and Morhino in the transfer market because they can afford to buy 5 plus duds and still be fine!!!
Malky had no room for mistake unlike Fergie and moruinho, he doesn't have to be better but alot more shrewd just like Brucy and Pulis who have made no mistakes on a tiny budget. Total balls up only 1 player from the 40+ mil has been worth it and that is caulker, every1 else was shit and Medel was way overpriced, 3 players could of been bought for Medels price.
Would you pay £8million for the same Kenwyne Jones which is playing for Cardiff..? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 905368.stm
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:10 pm
BadBeatPete wrote:Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
How can you compare the richest clubs in the world to cardiff, they could buy 5 duds and still be fine. Plus it wasn't 1 dud malky signed it was a string of them total balls up, destroyed any chance of us staying up, also paid way over the odds for Medel.
So in your view point then Malky HAS to be better than Ferguson and Morhino in the transfer market because they can afford to buy 5 plus duds and still be fine!!!
Malky had no room for mistake unlike Fergie and moruinho, he doesn't have to be better but alot more shrewd just like Brucy and Pulis who have made no mistakes on a tiny budget. Total balls up only 1 player from the 40+ mil has been worth it and that is caulker, every1 else was shit and Medel was way overpriced, 3 players could of been bought for Medels price.
Would you pay £8million for the same Kenwyne Jones which is playing for Cardiff..? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 905368.stm
Nope! But if i had a player im not going to use, and needed a beast to win headers i would swap him any day! Everyone knows he cant kick a ball, but no one will push him arround either..
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:12 pm
Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:mjw6150 wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:I would say Tans money got us promoted personally, without Tans money we would be a mid table champ team under malky no doubt.
We wouldnt even be that.
Without Tans money we would have either gone to the wall, or would be where Pompey are right now, or worse.
You can't say that FFS as no-one can say that because simply no-one will ever know
We had millions of debt to HMRC who had already given us multiple winding up orders. If Tan hadn't invested after the Blackpool final that would have been it for CCFC I'm sure.
It impossible for you or anyone to know that would have happened. I wish people would stop trying to predict the impossible on here at times.
FACT is that NO-ONE will ever know that it would have happened
Ridsdale had already spent the following season ticket money, who was going to save us? the tooth fairy, santa claus, the easter bunny?
and other parties were mentioned at the time. However the bottom line FACT is that no-one will ever know
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:13 pm
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:14 pm
Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
What a stupid f*cking comparison
They have enough quality to cope with signings that dont quite work.
A club our size paying 10m for Cornelius not to work is like Real Madrid cutting their losses on Gareth Bale and selling him back to Spurs for 30m.
Or United selling Mata for 9m cos it didnt work.
Of course you can make a comparison as mypoint is no matter who the manager is not ever signing will work
If you want to make comparisons compare how Malky spent his budget compared to Steve Bruce and then come back and talk some sense.
Fergie and Mourinho never 30% of their transfer budget on on an unknown kid who turned out to be a flop.
Plus when you are winning games at the rate of Fergie and Mourinho your shite signings are forgiveable.
So Ferguson never blew an even bigger percentage of his transfer budget on Veron then did he!!!!
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I dont know what Uniteds budget was that window but put it this way 28m was a fraction of what that United squad was worth.
It was hardly an unkown signing, Veron was regarded as one of the best in the world, it just didnt work at United and United had Scholes, Giggs, Keane.etc and were still winning games.
They also sold him for 17m. United losing 11m on a player is like Cardiff losing 120k on a player.
If Cornelius was signed for 2m and 15k a week no-one would batter an eyelid. To spend 8.5m and make him the highest earner when he had only played 30 odd games. Craziness and unforgivable.
As I said if you want to make comparisons lets compare clubs on a similair keel and how they spent their budget. Hull and Palace have squads just as good as ours for a fraction of the cost.
But that wasn't your point was it. You clearly meant transfer budget and Ferguson clearly blew the transfer budget when he signed him for £24.8 million in 2001!!! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -move.html
Proof that even the best managers can be wrong in the transfer market
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:16 pm
Kenfig Blue wrote:The bottom line is malky had one shot to sign atleast a decent striker who would score 6-8 goals, but he signed a total cart horse who couldn't trap a bag of cement.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:19 pm
CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
What a stupid f*cking comparison
They have enough quality to cope with signings that dont quite work.
A club our size paying 10m for Cornelius not to work is like Real Madrid cutting their losses on Gareth Bale and selling him back to Spurs for 30m.
Or United selling Mata for 9m cos it didnt work.
Of course you can make a comparison as mypoint is no matter who the manager is not ever signing will work
If you want to make comparisons compare how Malky spent his budget compared to Steve Bruce and then come back and talk some sense.
Fergie and Mourinho never 30% of their transfer budget on on an unknown kid who turned out to be a flop.
Plus when you are winning games at the rate of Fergie and Mourinho your shite signings are forgiveable.
So Ferguson never blew an even bigger percentage of his transfer budget on Veron then did he!!!!
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I dont know what Uniteds budget was that window but put it this way 28m was a fraction of what that United squad was worth.
It was hardly an unkown signing, Veron was regarded as one of the best in the world, it just didnt work at United and United had Scholes, Giggs, Keane.etc and were still winning games.
They also sold him for 17m. United losing 11m on a player is like Cardiff losing 120k on a player.
If Cornelius was signed for 2m and 15k a week no-one would batter an eyelid. To spend 8.5m and make him the highest earner when he had only played 30 odd games. Craziness and unforgivable.
As I said if you want to make comparisons lets compare clubs on a similair keel and how they spent their budget. Hull and Palace have squads just as good as ours for a fraction of the cost.
But that wasn't your point was it. You clearly meant transfer budget and Ferguson clearly blew the transfer budget when he signed him for £24.8 million in 2001!!! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -move.html
Proof that even the best managers can be wrong in the transfer market
So wrong he won United countless trophies whilst making them a 68m profit in the transfer market during his time there.
The same season he signed Veron he signed Ruud Van Nisterooy.
Please stop comparing Malky to Fergie and Mourinho in the transfer market you are embarrasing yourself.
Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:20 pm
Military Junta wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:The bottom line is malky had one shot to sign atleast a decent striker who would score 6-8 goals, but he signed a total cart horse who couldn't trap a bag of cement.
Didn't he already have a 6-8 goal striker in Campbell..?
Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:47 pm
Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:CF47 BLUEBIRD wrote:Military Junta wrote:Did all of Alex Fergusons and Jose Mornhinos signings all work then..? Yet some fans think that all of Malkys signings had to work!!!!
What a stupid f*cking comparison
They have enough quality to cope with signings that dont quite work.
A club our size paying 10m for Cornelius not to work is like Real Madrid cutting their losses on Gareth Bale and selling him back to Spurs for 30m.
Or United selling Mata for 9m cos it didnt work.
Of course you can make a comparison as mypoint is no matter who the manager is not ever signing will work
If you want to make comparisons compare how Malky spent his budget compared to Steve Bruce and then come back and talk some sense.
Fergie and Mourinho never 30% of their transfer budget on on an unknown kid who turned out to be a flop.
Plus when you are winning games at the rate of Fergie and Mourinho your shite signings are forgiveable.
So Ferguson never blew an even bigger percentage of his transfer budget on Veron then did he!!!!
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I dont know what Uniteds budget was that window but put it this way 28m was a fraction of what that United squad was worth.
It was hardly an unkown signing, Veron was regarded as one of the best in the world, it just didnt work at United and United had Scholes, Giggs, Keane.etc and were still winning games.
They also sold him for 17m. United losing 11m on a player is like Cardiff losing 120k on a player.
If Cornelius was signed for 2m and 15k a week no-one would batter an eyelid. To spend 8.5m and make him the highest earner when he had only played 30 odd games. Craziness and unforgivable.
As I said if you want to make comparisons lets compare clubs on a similair keel and how they spent their budget. Hull and Palace have squads just as good as ours for a fraction of the cost.
But that wasn't your point was it. You clearly meant transfer budget and Ferguson clearly blew the transfer budget when he signed him for £24.8 million in 2001!!! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -move.html
Proof that even the best managers can be wrong in the transfer market
So wrong he won United countless trophies whilst making them a 68m profit in the transfer market during his time there.
The same season he signed Veron he signed Ruud Van Nisterooy.
Please stop comparing Malky to Fergie and Mourinho in the transfer market you are embarrasing yourself.
Stop trying to broaden my point. You clearly meant a season transfer budget FFS and Veron was clearly a huge percentage of United transfer budget that season so even the best managers can get it wrong in the transfer market at times.