Who is to blame if we go down? (Poll)

I'm sorry but the fact Malky is the second highest voted, despite keeping us above the relegation zone all season and playing 7 of the top 9 teams at home shows how clueless members on this forum are. Cornelius was a flop, but Malky made us that money taking us to the Premiership anyway. Every home game remaining after Malky's sacking would have been against teams in 10th place or lower, apart from Liverpool and Chelsea. Considering the fact in Malky's only 2 home games against teams in the bottom half - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0; I think it's pretty safe to assume Malky would have got us the results required in our remaining home games during the second half of the season to keep us up.

Unfortunately, Tan let things get personal with Malky. He couldn't handle the fact Malky was more popular than him and his jealous ego made him make the ridiculous decision to sack Malky. Tan did a good job manipulating the fans and unfortunately, his disruptive tactics of interfering, sending Malky that email leading to the 45 minute Anfield protest, making Kerslake step in for the Liverpool interview at the last second, refusing to meet Malky countless times to resolve things etc, contributed to the players not being in the correct mindset for the Southampton game, leading to the 3-0 defeat to give Tan the excuse to sack malky.

I believe we would have been a good few points better off as it was without Tan's interference and disruption, but we have really plummeted since Malky went, dropping valuable points at home against the teams we are battling against for survival. We would have been in a much better position now if Malky was still here and if Tan took a back seat, kept his big mouth shut and allowed Malky to do his job. It is without a doubt Vincent Tan's fault if we get relegated.

Promoted as a club, relegated as a club. We should all stand together.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but surely u all have to admit,Tan is shall we say a nice way mad,a lunatic and no respect for anyone.

I'm sorry but the fact Malky is the second highest voted, despite keeping us above the relegation zone all season and playing 7 of the top 9 teams at home shows how clueless members on this forum are. Cornelius was a flop, but Malky made us that money taking us to the Premiership anyway. Every home game remaining after Malky's sacking would have been against teams in 10th place or lower, apart from Liverpool and Chelsea. Considering the fact in Malky's only 2 home games against teams in the bottom half - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0; I think it's pretty safe to assume Malky would have got us the results required in our remaining home games during the second half of the season to keep us up.

Unfortunately, Tan let things get personal with Malky. He couldn't handle the fact Malky was more popular than him and his jealous ego made him make the ridiculous decision to sack Malky. Tan did a good job manipulating the fans and unfortunately, his disruptive tactics of interfering, sending Malky that email leading to the 45 minute Anfield protest, making Kerslake step in for the Liverpool interview at the last second, refusing to meet Malky countless times to resolve things etc, contributed to the players not being in the correct mindset for the Southampton game, leading to the 3-0 defeat to give Tan the excuse to sack malky.

I believe we would have been a good few points better off as it was without Tan's interference and disruption, but we have really plummeted since Malky went, dropping valuable points at home against the teams we are battling against for survival. We would have been in a much better position now if Malky was still here and if Tan took a back seat, kept his big mouth shut and allowed Malky to do his job. It is without a doubt Vincent Tan's fault if we get relegated.

Maybe its you thats clueless and not everyone else?

I think the speed in which some have turned against Malky is staggering. What happened to "gonna have a riot on your hands" and the Liverpool protest.

He was gone a few weeks later and everyone seemed to say "good riddance"

Promoted as a club, relegated as a club. We should all stand together.

Craig on that point I agree, but some have just got on with it,some have embraced the Red and belittled those who stand for our identity and some like myself will never accept the Red. So we are totally divided.

Malky had 6 wins in 28 league games going back to Peterborough home last season

I think the speed in which some have turned against Malky is staggering. What happened to "gonna have a riot on your hands" and the Liverpool protest.

He was gone a few weeks later and everyone seemed to say "good riddance"

It's very sad that fans have stabbed Malky in the back and that they were only a few months earlier worshipping him.

I'm sorry but the fact Malky is the second highest voted, despite keeping us above the relegation zone all season and playing 7 of the top 9 teams at home shows how clueless members on this forum are. Cornelius was a flop, but Malky made us that money taking us to the Premiership anyway. Every home game remaining after Malky's sacking would have been against teams in 10th place or lower, apart from Liverpool and Chelsea. Considering the fact in Malky's only 2 home games against teams in the bottom half - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0; I think it's pretty safe to assume Malky would have got us the results required in our remaining home games during the second half of the season to keep us up.

Unfortunately, Tan let things get personal with Malky. He couldn't handle the fact Malky was more popular than him and his jealous ego made him make the ridiculous decision to sack Malky. Tan did a good job manipulating the fans and unfortunately, his disruptive tactics of interfering, sending Malky that email leading to the 45 minute Anfield protest, making Kerslake step in for the Liverpool interview at the last second, refusing to meet Malky countless times to resolve things etc, contributed to the players not being in the correct mindset for the Southampton game, leading to the 3-0 defeat to give Tan the excuse to sack malky.

I believe we would have been a good few points better off as it was without Tan's interference and disruption, but we have really plummeted since Malky went, dropping valuable points at home against the teams we are battling against for survival. We would have been in a much better position now if Malky was still here and if Tan took a back seat, kept his big mouth shut and allowed Malky to do his job. It is without a doubt Vincent Tan's fault if we get relegated.

Maybe its you thats clueless and not everyone else?

You can't argue with facts. Granted, it's my opinion Tan had an impact on our Southampton performance with the events leading up to that game, but surely we can agree what led to that game gave the team no help whatsoever. It was hardly ideal preparation was it?

My opinion of the Southampton game aside, the rest of my post is backed up with facts and I don't see how any of it can be argued with to be honest.

Annis you gonna answer the point you think we only have 6 premierships players then whos fault is that?

Or are you just going to ignore it because you know the answer is Malky?

I wonder if someone who chose "the fans" could explain?

I think the speed in which some have turned against Malky is staggering. What happened to "gonna have a riot on your hands" and the Liverpool protest.

He was gone a few weeks later and everyone seemed to say "good riddance"

It's very sad that fans have stabbed Malky in the back and that they were only a few months earlier worshipping him.

You mean like this?

Ole in one his first ever conversations with Tan, Ole stressed how much our identity/Blue meant to us. He said football is like religion to football fans over here.
I am not going to go in to the full conversation.
But after speaking to him for a while, Ole is def his own man and he will 100% be in control of all the signings and team selections.
I had heard all these rumors that Ole had said it, but I actually did not believe them.

Well impressed with him

I think the speed in which some have turned against Malky is staggering. What happened to "gonna have a riot on your hands" and the Liverpool protest.

He was gone a few weeks later and everyone seemed to say "good riddance"

Tell me, have Swansea City ever been to Rome to see the pope, and if so, did he tell them to "f**k OFF"?

I haven't seen many fans with Picks and shovels at our matches either?

I am yet to see either Peter Thorne or Craig Bellamy's magic hate that they wear.

My old man has never told me to be a swansea fan, and I certainly wouldn't tell him to "f**k off", "bollox" or call him a c**t.

We dont actually shag sheep.

how the hell can you guys blame tan. im no tan lover. but Malky Moody and ole should be the ones to blame as they bought it the players. yes you can say yeah but Tan signed the cheques. But it was Malky Moody and Ole who wanted the new players.

Also the fans should take some blame. FFS support the team when they need it but no. everyone needs to chant tan out and going back to blue. what do you think the team thinks???????

TAN sowed the seeds of all this with his stupid retarded rebrand.The great rift it has caused has gone right through the club from top to bottom.A cancer has set in'and the only cure is to remove it.Remove the Tumor that is TAN and the patient that is CARDIFF CITY will eventualy pull through.Maybe after a period of intensive care.But pull through it will.

I think the speed in which some have turned against Malky is staggering. What happened to "gonna have a riot on your hands" and the Liverpool protest.

He was gone a few weeks later and everyone seemed to say "good riddance"

Tell me, have Swansea City ever been to Rome to see the pope, and if so, did he tell them to "f**k OFF"?

I haven't seen many fans with Picks and shovels at our matches either?

I am yet to see either Peter Thorne or Craig Bellamy's magic hate that they wear.

My old man has never told me to be a swansea fan, and I certainly wouldn't tell him to "f**k off", "bollox" or call him a c**t.

We dont actually shag sheep.

So the fans stayed behind at Anfield just to have a bit of a sing song instead of telling Tan to not sack Malky then? It was just a coincidence you decided to sing that and had no meaning behind it what so ever?

You thought that post through Craig?

Malky was not in charge v Sunderland,Arsenal and I was including the 3 cup games. So if u add all them up I am correct
All opinions welcome and Yes Malky was a great manager in my eyes and his record was superb until Tan the Dictator tried to finish him off.

Malkay was in charge for 18 PL games FACT

Kersklake for 2 FACT (And his shit lets get everyone defending in our own area wiht 25 minutes to go Malky style tactics cost us 2 points v Sunderland)

OGS will be in charge for 18 PL games so even if you add the 3 cup games (Why I dont know, they have no bearing on wether we stay up or not) then that equals 21 not 23.

So no, you are NOT correct.

I think the speed in which some have turned against Malky is staggering. What happened to "gonna have a riot on your hands" and the Liverpool protest.

He was gone a few weeks later and everyone seemed to say "good riddance"

It's very sad that fans have stabbed Malky in the back and that they were only a few months earlier worshipping him.

You mean like this?

Ole in one his first ever conversations with Tan, Ole stressed how much our identity/Blue meant to us. He said football is like religion to football fans over here.
I am not going to go in to the full conversation.
But after speaking to him for a while, Ole is def his own man and he will 100% be in control of all the signings and team selections.
I had heard all these rumors that Ole had said it, but I actually did not believe them.

Well impressed with him

I fail to see where Annis insulted or disrespected Malky there?

I think the speed in which some have turned against Malky is staggering. What happened to "gonna have a riot on your hands" and the Liverpool protest.

He was gone a few weeks later and everyone seemed to say "good riddance"

Tell me, have Swansea City ever been to Rome to see the pope, and if so, did he tell them to "f**k OFF"?

I haven't seen many fans with Picks and shovels at our matches either?

I am yet to see either Peter Thorne or Craig Bellamy's magic hate that they wear.

My old man has never told me to be a swansea fan, and I certainly wouldn't tell him to "f**k off", "bollox" or call him a c**t.

We dont actually shag sheep.

So the fans stayed behind at Anfield just to have a bit of a sing song instead of telling Tan to not sack Malky then? It was just a coincidence you decided to sing that and had no meaning behind it what so ever?

You thought that post through Craig?

I know several people at Liverpool who never enjoyed Malkys shit style of play but joined in the chanting as more of a demonstration against Tan.

I know several people at Liverpool who never enjoyed Malkys shit style of play but joined in the chanting as more of a demonstration against Tan.

What a ridiculous thing to do then.

They wanted Malky gone but chanted to tan to "not sack him or there will be a riot"

I think the speed in which some have turned against Malky is staggering. What happened to "gonna have a riot on your hands" and the Liverpool protest.

He was gone a few weeks later and everyone seemed to say "good riddance"

Tell me, have Swansea City ever been to Rome to see the pope, and if so, did he tell them to "f**k OFF"?

I haven't seen many fans with Picks and shovels at our matches either?

I am yet to see either Peter Thorne or Craig Bellamy's magic hate that they wear.

My old man has never told me to be a swansea fan, and I certainly wouldn't tell him to "f**k off", "bollox" or call him a c**t.

We dont actually shag sheep.

So the fans stayed behind at Anfield just to have a bit of a sing song instead of telling Tan to not sack Malky then? It was just a coincidence you decided to sing that and had no meaning behind it what so ever?

You thought that post through Craig?

That song was quite embarrassing. As soon as the Liverpool game was on TV, a load of people were singing it up Merthyr. Much like that Yaya/Kolo song, people are sheep and will follow the trend, even if they don't agree with it. Alot of the people singing "Don't sack Mackay" at the beginning of the Saints game, completely stopped after the first goal.

It is amazing how quickly people change their opinion and slate people that they have loved for a long time, just because things aren't going well. It is sad how many fickle fans we have supporting Cardiff but it is not suprising. Tan has not only made our club plastic, hes made the fans it to. Kenfig Blue claims to support blue, yet slates Mackay and defends Ole and Tan. He may aswell have 'Made in Taiwan' tattooed on his head.

I'm sorry but the fact Malky is the second highest voted, despite keeping us above the relegation zone all season and playing 7 of the top 9 teams at home shows how clueless members on this forum are. Cornelius was a flop, but Malky made us that money taking us to the Premiership anyway. Every home game remaining after Malky's sacking would have been against teams in 10th place or lower, apart from Liverpool and Chelsea. Considering the fact in Malky's only 2 home games against teams in the bottom half - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0; I think it's pretty safe to assume Malky would have got us the results required in our remaining home games during the second half of the season to keep us up.

Unfortunately, Tan let things get personal with Malky. He couldn't handle the fact Malky was more popular than him and his jealous ego made him make the ridiculous decision to sack Malky. Tan did a good job manipulating the fans and unfortunately, his disruptive tactics of interfering, sending Malky that email leading to the 45 minute Anfield protest, making Kerslake step in for the Liverpool interview at the last second, refusing to meet Malky countless times to resolve things etc, contributed to the players not being in the correct mindset for the Southampton game, leading to the 3-0 defeat to give Tan the excuse to sack malky.

I believe we would have been a good few points better off as it was without Tan's interference and disruption, but we have really plummeted since Malky went, dropping valuable points at home against the teams we are battling against for survival. We would have been in a much better position now if Malky was still here and if Tan took a back seat, kept his big mouth shut and allowed Malky to do his job. It is without a doubt Vincent Tan's fault if we get relegated.

We were in the bottom 3 first day of the season, we lost to Newcastle when they were bottom half.

The 2 Malky home wins agains Swansea and WBA were both very scrappy affairs which could have gone either way, and certainly not safe to assume anything.

Malky couldnt even muster up a chance, let a lone a goal against the likes of West Ham, Villa, Norwich, Palace and Stoke away so why you assume you would have got the wins at home I dont know.

We only won 3 of our last 10 home games in the championship and the relegation brings much more pressure than getting promoted.


At the end of the day MM totally wasted the huge budget he was given in the summer and you can blame Tan all you want, if it was your 35m he had wasted and still had a championship squad you would be pissed too.

I know several people at Liverpool who never enjoyed Malkys shit style of play but joined in the chanting as more of a demonstration against Tan.

What a ridiculous thing to do then.

They wanted Malky gone but chanted to tan to "not sack him or there will be a riot"

As a show of defiance to Tan.

Caught in the moment.

Almost as ridiculous as you claiming yesterdays first half v Palace was "one of the best in decades".

As a show of defiance to Tan.

Caught in the moment.

Almost as ridiculous as you claiming yesterdays first half v Palace was "one of the best in decades".

Dont resort to lying just because your post was stupid

If you are going to make up quotes you may as well go nuts as I told you

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Promoted as a club, relegated as a club. We should all stand together.

Craig on that point I agree, but some have just got on with it,some have embraced the Red and belittled those who stand for our identity and some like myself will never accept the Red. So we are totally divided.

This word EMBRACE is used far too easily. Very few EMBRACED the red. Most begrudgingly accepted it based on the potential investment.

If you still go to the games you have to accept some acceptance. You are happy to watch PL football that was brought to us by the new regime. This pick and choose of what we like and dislike is a symptom of the football fan, blinkered to the end.

As for the belittling of those who want to remain blue, what a load of biased bollocks.

The childish belittling has been on both sides of the argument and when it comes to message boards its par for the course.

Last Saturday I stood under the Family Stand in my Blue Supported shirt and watched a grown man lambasted a child of about 10 years old for wearing a red city shirt. I walked over and he smiled expecting my backing.

He was oblivious to the concern on the kids face and was abusive to me for not thinking football and the club should not be the be all and end all of my life.

This is not a tit for tat fight but it is the fans inability to accept our differences and come together DESPITE the rebrand that has made me decide enough is enough and I will not renew my season ticket in the Family Stand.

There will be quite a few thousand not renewing and I expect many to think it is down to Tan. I assure you it is not. Our fans are petty, childish and have an inability to take responsibility for their club. Its so easy to blame. What about Coming together whatever out opinions and supporting the team.

When you have fans around you actively supporting the away team and when questioned its because they hate Tan, its time to remove yourself from such idiots. Its funny but after a couple of seasons it just gets you down.

The anti blue lobby are their own worst enemy, they remain blinkered and blame everything on everyone else.

I think the speed in which some have turned against Malky is staggering. What happened to "gonna have a riot on your hands" and the Liverpool protest.

He was gone a few weeks later and everyone seemed to say "good riddance"

Tell me, have Swansea City ever been to Rome to see the pope, and if so, did he tell them to "f**k OFF"?

I haven't seen many fans with Picks and shovels at our matches either?

I am yet to see either Peter Thorne or Craig Bellamy's magic hate that they wear.

My old man has never told me to be a swansea fan, and I certainly wouldn't tell him to "f**k off", "bollox" or call him a c**t.

We dont actually shag sheep.

So the fans stayed behind at Anfield just to have a bit of a sing song instead of telling Tan to not sack Malky then? It was just a coincidence you decided to sing that and had no meaning behind it what so ever?

You thought that post through Craig?

That song was quite embarrassing. As soon as the Liverpool game was on TV, a load of people were singing it up Merthyr. Much like that Yaya/Kolo song, people are sheep and will follow the trend, even if they don't agree with it. Alot of the people singing "Don't sack Mackay" at the beginning of the Saints game, completely stopped after the first goal.

It is amazing how quickly people change their opinion and slate people that they have loved for a long time, just because things aren't going well. It is sad how many fickle fans we have supporting Cardiff but it is not suprising. Tan has not only made our club plastic, hes made the fans it to. Kenfig Blue claims to support blue, yet slates Mackay and defends Ole and Tan. He may aswell have 'Made in Taiwan' tattooed on his head.

Eh? When have I defended Tan? I take the piss out of Tan, I defend Ole because he has not been given no where near the time Malky had. It took malky a couple of years to build a team, but people slag Ole off for building a team in a few weeks, its only fair to give Ole a full season before any judgement is passed.

I'm sorry but the fact Malky is the second highest voted, despite keeping us above the relegation zone all season and playing 7 of the top 9 teams at home shows how clueless members on this forum are. Cornelius was a flop, but Malky made us that money taking us to the Premiership anyway. Every home game remaining after Malky's sacking would have been against teams in 10th place or lower, apart from Liverpool and Chelsea. Considering the fact in Malky's only 2 home games against teams in the bottom half - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0; I think it's pretty safe to assume Malky would have got us the results required in our remaining home games during the second half of the season to keep us up.

Unfortunately, Tan let things get personal with Malky. He couldn't handle the fact Malky was more popular than him and his jealous ego made him make the ridiculous decision to sack Malky. Tan did a good job manipulating the fans and unfortunately, his disruptive tactics of interfering, sending Malky that email leading to the 45 minute Anfield protest, making Kerslake step in for the Liverpool interview at the last second, refusing to meet Malky countless times to resolve things etc, contributed to the players not being in the correct mindset for the Southampton game, leading to the 3-0 defeat to give Tan the excuse to sack malky.

I believe we would have been a good few points better off as it was without Tan's interference and disruption, but we have really plummeted since Malky went, dropping valuable points at home against the teams we are battling against for survival. We would have been in a much better position now if Malky was still here and if Tan took a back seat, kept his big mouth shut and allowed Malky to do his job. It is without a doubt Vincent Tan's fault if we get relegated.

We were in the bottom 3 first day of the season, we lost to Newcastle when they were bottom half.

We were 3rd under Malky before our first game on alphabetical order, just saying!

The 2 Malky home wins agains Swansea and WBA were both very scrappy affairs which could have gone either way, and certainly not safe to assume anything.

We dominated the second half home to Swansea and thoroughly deserved the win. West Brom was more even but we still shaded it.

Malky couldnt even muster up a chance, let a lone a goal against the likes of West Ham, Villa, Norwich, Palace and Stoke away so why you assume you would have got the wins at home I dont know.

Because we beat Swansea and West Brom at home 1-0, that's a 100% winning record at home to bottom half opposition. This proves Malky was capable of getting us the results required against the teams in the bottom half.

We only won 3 of our last 10 home games in the championship and the relegation brings much more pressure than getting promoted.

We were so far ahead that we concentrated on not losing games more than not winning games, ensuring we kept gradually picking up enough points to win the league at a canter.

At the end of the day MM totally wasted the huge budget he was given in the summer and you can blame Tan all you want, if it was your 35m he had wasted and still had a championship squad you would be pissed too.

Our goal was to stay above the relegation zone, Malky achieved that until he was inexplicably sacked.

After spending £50m Tonteg, our goal was better than 17th. As it should have been.

Annis you gonna answer the point you think we only have 6 premierships players then whos fault is that?

Or are you just going to ignore it because you know the answer is Malky?

It takes 2 seasons to get a full Premier League squad, Malky would of strengthened in Jan and I honestly believe we would f stayed up, I really do

After spending £50m Tonteg, our goal was better than 17th. As it should have been.

Our goal was always to avoid relegation being our first season in the Premiership surely? I honestly believe we would have finished higher than 17th if Malky stayed, but that's just my opinion of course.

As a show of defiance to Tan.

Caught in the moment.

Almost as ridiculous as you claiming yesterdays first half v Palace was "one of the best in decades".

Dont resort to lying just because your post was stupid

If you are going to make up quotes you may as well go nuts as I told you

I think the only liar here is you.

Nothing made up by me at all.

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That was one of the best 45 minutes ive seen from Swansea in decades and we have been excellent an awful lot of the time

As you were Pinnochio