CARL CURTIS URGES FANS TO BACK IDENTITY RESTORATION

The guy just craves publicity, even if it's negative, add me & my son, we'll be there!

I also remember Carl urging for calm when the rebrand was announced in an effort to get Tan back onside when he threatened to leave.

Its 2 years too late I am afraid.

These rallying calls should have been 2 years ago not wen we are about to get relegated.

There were racist and other vile comments on social media sites and even death threats towards Vincent Tan and his family members at that time.

I did call for calm and I will do exactly the same thing again today if such instances happen again, they were disgusting and not what I would ever want to be associated with even if it is through my sharing of support of the same football team.

It's Never to late, We've kept the BLUE going for the last 2 years and its increased every game, that to me goes a long way in keeping our Identity alive

As to the Demonstration, Sky, BBC and the worlds media will all be there for this and we had approx 1,500 on Boxing Day according to Police figures, if we can double that this time, that will also a long way to showing the World that we have not all rolled over to the Dictator

Instead of all moaning just come and join us v Liverpool " A peaceful demonstration "

Apart from a few though who went on TV against him ie TLG we did roll over because these protests should have been happening at the announcment not appealing for calm.

If everyone is honest with themselves we had 3 years of being so close and heartbreak and with the Jacks already up in the PL we wanted a piece of it.

Read my article and any of my previous posts and you will see that for me it was about a debt free club not premier league football.

I have not change my stance on that and I took Tans pledge of changing debt to equity on face value at the time and today he is apparently suggesting that he may not convert his loans into shares, if that is the case I would never have accepted, reluctantly or not, the rebranding.

I also remember Carl urging for calm when the rebrand was announced in an effort to get Tan back onside when he threatened to leave.

Its 2 years too late I am afraid.

These rallying calls should have been 2 years ago not wen we are about to get relegated.

There were racist and other vile comments on social media sites and even death threats towards Vincent Tan and his family members at that time.

I did call for calm and I will do exactly the same thing again today if such instances happen again, they were disgusting and not what I would ever want to be associated with even if it is through my sharing of support of the same football team.

All those things are still happening Carl probably worst now actually

It's Never to late, We've kept the BLUE going for the last 2 years and its increased every game, that to me goes a long way in keeping our Identity alive
As to the Demonstration, Sky, BBC and the worlds media will all be there for this and we had approx 1,500 on Boxing Day according to Police figures, if we can double that this time, that will also a long way to showing the World that we have not all rolled over to the Dictator Instead of all moaning just come and join us v Liverpool " A peaceful demonstration "

Apart from a few though who went on TV against him ie TLG we did roll over because these protests should have been happening at the announcment not appealing for calm.
If everyone is honest with themselves we had 3 years of being so close and heartbreak and with the Jacks already up in the PLwe wanted a piece of it.

Read my article and any of my previous posts and you will see that for me it was about a debt free club not premier league football.I have not change my stance on that and I took Tans pledge of changing debt to equity on face value at the time and today he is apparently suggesting that he may not convert his loans into shares, if that is the case I would never have accepted, reluctantly or not, the rebranding.

Cmon Carl if everyones totally honest, myself included, we were easily swayed with the 100m investment and are using his recent comments about debt to equity as a get out card for going with it.

Why does it matter to you whether Tan converts his debt to equity. It doesn't matter one iota. He either sells ccfc for £1 and the buyer has to pay back £80 million to Tan, or he converts his debt to equity and the buyer pays £80,000,001. What's the difference?

Why does it matter to you whether Tan converts his debt to equity. It doesn't matter one iota. He either sells ccfc for £1 and the buyer has to pay back £80 million to Tan, or he converts his debt to equity and the buyer pays £80,000,001. What's the difference?

Because the club isnt worth 80m

Okay. So the club isn't worth £80 million. Let's say it's worth a £1. Who's going to buy it when they will owe £80 million to Tan?

Okay. So the club isn't worth £80 million. Let's say it's worth a £1. Who's going to buy it when they will owe £80 million to Tan?

No one of sane mind

Lets simplify this. Would you pay 8k for a 4k car?

No you wouldnt.

No matter what you pay for the club. It's a club with an £80 million debt. Or it's a club with no debt that Tan will want £80 million for.
There is no difference if he converts debt to equity.

Why does it matter to you whether Tan converts his debt to equity. It doesn't matter one iota. He either sells ccfc for £1 and the buyer has to pay back £80 million to Tan, or he converts his debt to equity and the buyer pays £80,000,001. What's the difference?

Because the club isnt worth 80m

No it's worth a lot more ,fulham sold for over 150 million last year

If we're still in the premier next season one of these billionaires with more money than sense could buy into the premier for that price ,no problem .

Why does it matter to you whether Tan converts his debt to equity. It doesn't matter one iota. He either sells ccfc for £1 and the buyer has to pay back £80 million to Tan, or he converts his debt to equity and the buyer pays £80,000,001. What's the difference?

Because the club isnt worth 80m

No it's worth a lot more ,fulham sold for over 150 million last year

spot on wez and we have a new stadium

No matter what you pay for the club. It's a club with an £80 million debt. Or it's a club with no debt that Tan will want £80 million for.
There is no difference if he converts debt to equity.

A bank are less likely to service the debt on behalf of prosoective buyer as the club is worth less than the debt.

same as a bank wouldnt give you 800k to buy a house thats only worth 400k

Why does it matter to you whether Tan converts his debt to equity. It doesn't matter one iota. He either sells ccfc for £1 and the buyer has to pay back £80 million to Tan, or he converts his debt to equity and the buyer pays £80,000,001. What's the difference?

Because the club isnt worth 80m

No it's worth a lot more ,fulham sold for over 150 million last year

Established premier league *at time of sale* Fulham in the middle of one if the most affluent areas in the country and with more saleable assests and less debt than us you mean?

I agree that a bank is less likely to service the debt. That's why a buyer would have to pay Tan his £80 million loan or £80 million for his shares if he converts to equity. There is no difference to a prospective buyer

I agree that a bank is less likely to service the debt. That's why a buyer would have to pay Tan his £80 million loan or £80 million for his shares if he converts to equity. There is no difference to a prospective buyer

You just dont get it do you