' VINCENT TANS LATEST STATEMENT '

I'm no fan of Watford but im nearly 100% sure that he did an amazing job there. From my understanding they had to sell a lot of players, were hours from administration and they had to beg, steal and borrow and he somehow kept them up. Just because you don't win a league by 20 points, doesn't mean you don't do a good job.
When he took over at city we had lost in the play offs 2 years on the trot and had something like 7 first team players. He took us to the play offs and a Kenny Miller sitter from winning our first silverware since 1927 (of any note). He then won the league winning the LMA manager of the year.
Now I'm not saying he was perfect (a few duff signings, too negative at times) but I do believe you are being a little bit swayed by Vincent Tan's version of events.

I presume this is a joke.[/quote]

Deadly serious, any joker could of got us promoted with the money given.[/quote]

That's not strictly fair. His first season he had to build a squad basically from scratch for under £1.5million. 7 of he 13 players he inherited actually played some football and he achieved fair success that season given, it appears he wasn't backed fully in jan or didn't feel the market was right either way he has moderately successful.

He then spent fairly well in the second summer window. Depending on your view, seeing as promotion was a demand he brought in experienced championship players and some he wanted to develop (Campbell, Mutch, Noone, Kim).

So he did have some success in the windows. His issues came that precious few players from that Championship squad were able to take the step up to the Prem.

Our most common back five last season (Marshall, Conolly, Hudson, Turner, Taylor) only contain one premiership standard player. Malky was let down by them and his ability to bring in decent players cheaply.

"Tan, who believes British clubs are "very blessed" to have foreign owners, denied he would walk away if Cardiff were relegated ("unless the fans really p*** me off so much, then I may leave") and pledged to donate £1m to local charities if they stay up."

Typical mind-control techniques. Wake yourselfs up from your slumber

"Tan, who believes British clubs are "very blessed" to have foreign owners, denied he would walk away if Cardiff were relegated ("unless the fans really p*** me off so much, then I may leave") and pledged to donate £1m to local charities if they stay up."

Typical mind-control techniques. Wake yourselfs up from your slumber

Mind control techniques cue the X-files music.

"Tan, who believes British clubs are "very blessed" to have foreign owners, denied he would walk away if Cardiff were relegated ("unless the fans really p*** me off so much, then I may leave") and pledged to donate £1m to local charities if they stay up."

Typical mind-control techniques. Wake yourselfs up from your slumber

Mind control techniques cue the X-files music.

not paranormal activity, I haven't seen Tan shape-shift yet

Vincent Tan: Cardiff City owner insists he is not a 'villain @BCC sport

BBC 28th February 2014.

Vincent Tan has spoken at length about his ownership of Cardiff City, with the Malaysian businessman insisting he is not the "villain" he is made out to be.

In an exclusive BBC interview, the 62-year-old even accused the British media of being "a little bit racist".

Tan, who upset Cardiff fans by changing the club's colours and sacking manager Malky Mackay, said the "vocal minority" who oppose him should "apologise".



And he is adamant he will not quit unless supporters drive him out.

"One day we are a hero, another day we are a zero," Tan, who bought the Welsh club in May 2010, told BBC Sport. "Without me, Cardiff would have gone bust. Because of my investment, we got promoted."

In a rare interview, and speaking for the first time since sacking Mackay in December, Tan also said:

•He has the backing of 90% of Cardiff fans
•He will never change the club's colours back to blue from red
•Mackay "got lucky" when he landed the job as manager
•He is "convinced" manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer will save Cardiff from relegation
•Foreign owners are good for British football
•Plans to list Cardiff on the Singapore stock exchange have been abandoned
Much of the goodwill Tan gained after arriving in the Welsh capital has been lost because of the controversial decisions he has made.

But he expressed a firm belief that Cardiff, who sit one place off the foot of the Premier League table with only 11 games remaining, are in capable hands.

"I am now more involved and under my leadership the club will be in good shape," said Tan.

"Some of my family members really want me to leave. They think it's not worth it. They think no-one is grateful. But you have to be patient, accept the criticism and sometimes the insults."

Tan hopes to be able to tell fans the "truth" about the sacking of Mackay once a legal case between Cardiff and the Scot has concluded and stressed he wants to "unite" with them.

But he added: "No matter how much good you do, there will always be a few per cent of people who don't support you."

And he has little time for those who portray him as some kind of Bond villain because he often wears dark glasses and gloves when watching Cardiff's home games.

"I wear sunglasses because of the glare of the spotlights," he said. "I wear gloves because it is very cold in the UK. Frankly, sometimes I think they are nuts making all these comments."

He added: "The British press is unfair... maybe because we didn't tell our side of the story that well. When the time is right, I will tell my story. Sometimes the British press is maybe a little bit racist."

After initially taking a 35% share in Cardiff, Tan now owns about 90% and has paid off all creditors.

Who is Vincent Tan?
Age: 62

Nationality: Malaysian

Marital status: Married

Children: 11

Net worth: $1.6bn (making him the 10th richest man in Malaysia)

Source: Forbes
According to Tan, the club's only outstanding debt is about £70m-£80m owed to him, and he will decide in due course whether or not to convert that into equity.

Mackay was appointed in June 2011 by then chairman TG Chan and former director Alan Whiteley, a decision that might not have been made had Tan been more involved.

"He didn't do very well at Watford, but somehow our CEO and our chairman hired him and replaced Dave Jones," Tan said. "Dave Jones actually did much better.

"So I think Malky got lucky when he came to Cardiff. I invested a lot of money and then we went up. Do you think that Malky would have got us promoted without my investment?"

After reaching the Premier League, Tan alleges Mackay and ex-head of recruitment Iain Moody exceeded a £35m transfer budget by £15m - an accusation they deny.

Mackay and Moody also claim every deal was signed off by Cardiff chief executive Simon Lim.

"It went wrong when I found out that we overspent on transfers," said Tan. "I sent Simon Lim from Malaysia. He doesn't really know a lot about football, so he depends on the football expert.

“Perhaps they can find an owner who likes blue, pay up and buy me out
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Vincent Tan
"We have this expert always telling us 'leave the football to me, I'm the expert', so if the expert says 'do this, do this' and asks you to buy A, B and C, what can Simon Lim say? What can I say?"

Moody was replaced by Alisher Apsalyamov, a 23-year-old Kazakh who is a friend of Tan's son and was on work experience at Cardiff before leaving the UK after his visa application was rejected.

Tan praised Apsalyamov's "incredible football knowledge" and says his view that Cardiff overpaid on transfers "has been proved right".

Speaking at an event in Kuala Lumpur to honour his business and charity work, and celebrate his birthday, Tan joked about his Cardiff takeover, saying: "Sometimes I wonder why I did it."

But when asked in our interview later if that was true, Tan said his only regret was he did not take more control.

"Earlier on I was generous enough to give our football management too much authority and they went berserk," he said. "They went and did bad business. That was a mistake.

"But now I'm involved, I know the value and I study. Every business I don't know, if I spend enough time - a couple of months - I will know a lot. I know quite a lot about football now. I know the value of players and we won't do stupid things.

"In the January transfer window, I was very involved. We spent about £6m for seven players. In the summer, we signed seven players and committed almost £50m. I want to make sure we spend correctly. If I'm involved, I make better business decisions, getting better value for my money.

"Next summer I'm sure we will do better transfers because I will be personally involved. We're not going to let our manager run wild."

Tan is quick to take responsibility for securing a pre-contract agreement to sign 31-year-old Spanish striker Javi Guerra on a free transfer from Real Valladolid next summer.

And he put Cardiff's poor form under Solskjaer, appointed as Mackay's replacement in January, down to "the bad transfers we did in the summer" - singling out Andreas Cornelius and John Brayford.

He also identified Southampton and Hull City as clubs who prove "you can avoid overspending and have good football management".

Tan, who believes British clubs are "very blessed" to have foreign owners, denied he would walk away if Cardiff were relegated ("unless the fans really p*** me off so much, then I may leave") and pledged to donate £1m to local charities if they stay up.

But he has shelved plans to list Cardiff on the Singapore stock exchange until "we can make this club stable and sustainable in the Premier League".

Building bridges with disgruntled supporters is on the Malaysian's agenda, but he will not budge on the shirt colour.

"No way I will change it back to blue under my ownership," he said. "Perhaps they can find an owner who likes blue, pay up and buy me out. Sure they can go and change it to blue after that. I go somewhere and build another red club.

"Of course it helps that, in Asia, red is a colour of success, festivity, joy. After we changed it, that same season we got promoted. I think that was a good omen, a good sign."

And for these reasons, I'm out.

He must have a red tint in those glasses. 90% of the stadium is blue.

The fans have known what to do if they want Tan out. Unfortunately not enough fans want him out as proved by the numbers at the various marches. Everyone wants blue but many want Tan to stay because whether you like to admit it or not, he has done some good for the club. If it wasnt for the rebrand he would be considered eccentric and nothing else.

His point on Malky is a valid one. Virtual unknown, didnt do great at Watford and came here with a huge budget.

We would not have got promoted without Tans money

We did not get promoted because we changed to red

I get from that interview that he is more determind than ever to make us successful.

Craig, you make a valid point! Not enough! Some people are lambasting Tan's statement that 90% are happy, well he's on the money there because if you look at the people marching if we are looking for 10% of general attendances then there needs to be obviously around 2,500 people marching and let's be honest there was nowhere near anywhere that kind of numbers!

All the others points you raise are all very positive!

He must have a red tint in those glasses. 90% of the stadium is blue.

Exactly, they are in the stadium giving him money.

Well the first paragraph is enough for me.

"I won't leave unless the fans drive me out"


It's up to us people.

After reading this statement it is clear as day that-
1=We are stuck with red
2=His quote "pay up and buy me out and I will make another red club"means he has no feelings towards Cardiff city whatsoever.
3=Lied about making the club debt free
Also saying 90% of people are with him is just pure fantasy!!
"f**k OFF TAN YOU ARE KILLING US"

Even the Painter & Decorator knew Malky was over paying for players.

Can't argue with that.

If he didnt want to pay those prices he should have made it clear to his Chairman Simon Lim who authorised the transfers that there were limits - its not the managers job to control the clubs finances...

It has already been made clear that there was an issue with communication between Tan and his Manager and this is the fault of Tans administration - Malky made it clear that he tried to contact Tan many times with no response

If he cant run his club efficiently then its down to him - he is to blame for all the problems he mentions in this interview and he wants to blame the manager for all of them - crack on Tan - carry on with this juvenile attitude but the '5%-10%' of us will always oppose you and you're rebrand

i think you have a very Naive out look on how chairmen and managers work.
lets not forget the dossiers that malky always spoated about.

You know I think the most disconcerting part about this interview for me is when it says;

Speaking at an event in Kuala Lumpur to honour his business and charity work, and celebrate his birthday, Tan joked about his Cardiff takeover, saying: "Sometimes I wonder why I did it."

It's like he just didn't care, that he bought the club simply because he could. Even business wise that makes no sense, let alone trying to support a football club. The owner should be a fan of the club or want to see it do well on a genuinely personal level, with people buying out clubs just because they have little else to spend their money on, it causes these long situations where the club is divided and therefore the football becomes worse.

Even the Painter & Decorator knew Malky was over paying for players.

Can't argue with that.

If he didnt want to pay those prices he should have made it clear to his Chairman Simon Lim who authorised the transfers that there were limits - its not the managers job to control the clubs finances...

It has already been made clear that there was an issue with communication between Tan and his Manager and this is the fault of Tans administration - Malky made it clear that he tried to contact Tan many times with no response

If he cant run his club efficiently then its down to him - he is to blame for all the problems he mentions in this interview and he wants to blame the manager for all of them - crack on Tan - carry on with this juvenile attitude but the '5%-10%' of us will always oppose you and you're rebrand

i think you have a very Naive out look on how chairmen and managers work.
lets not forget the dossiers that malky always spoated about.

This doesnt even warrent a response

The only thing I agree with is Malky was a poor manager, his time at Watford proves that without money he is shite.

I presume this is a joke.

Deadly serious, any joker could of got us promoted with the money given.

Ah right just totally ignoring actual facts then and lapping up what Tan says instead.
Whilst I think that Mackay had faults (not attacking enough at times, 1 or 2 duff signings etc) he managed to keep Watford in the championship. Whilst I don't support them so don't know all of the facts I understand that they were 2 hours away from administration, had to sell 6 players and beg, steal and borrow in order to keep it together. I think it is common knowledge that he did a good job there in the situation and they were gutted he left.
He took over city when we had 7 (?) pros? we had lost 2 play offs on the trot having spent a lot of cash. That season of rebuilding we got to the play offs again and were a Kenny Miller open goal away from winning our first major silverware since 1927. The season after we won the league at a canter and he won the LMA manager of the year award.
People like you give the Internet a bad name.

Even the Painter & Decorator knew Malky was over paying for players.

Can't argue with that.

If he didnt want to pay those prices he should have made it clear to his Chairman Simon Lim who authorised the transfers that there were limits - its not the managers job to control the clubs finances...

It has already been made clear that there was an issue with communication between Tan and his Manager and this is the fault of Tans administration - Malky made it clear that he tried to contact Tan many times with no response

If he cant run his club efficiently then its down to him - he is to blame for all the problems he mentions in this interview and he wants to blame the manager for all of them - crack on Tan - carry on with this juvenile attitude but the '5%-10%' of us will always oppose you and you're rebrand

i think you have a very Naive out look on how chairmen and managers work.
lets not forget the dossiers that malky always spoated about.

This doesnt even warrent a response

The bit that scares me the most is the fact he says he's more involved than ever. We definitely don't need that clueless idiot involved. Going to do much more harm than good to have him involved on a day-to-day basis

An interesting interview, I think that the fans who want to force Tan out, should instead direct their energies to coming up with a plan to find a new investor to buy the club, rather than just shout and demand Tan go, which is the easy option.
He has made his position very clear and will not change the shirt colour and without his investment we would have gone bust and there was nobody else willing to buy the club, Paul Guy didn't and just saw the club as a piece of real estate to make money from.
Tan is a successful businessman and will sell the club if we find a buyer, so my message is if you want Tan out organise yourselves and try and come up with a plan to attract an investor to buy the club.

Spot on! And having kids running around shouting for the "blue priest" will only divide the club more and make the club look silly.
A loyal fanbase to the club,excellent support to the players and great atmosphere is the best advert money can bye! This club is MORE than a red shirt and vincent tan, show it! And all can be achieved in a blue shirt..

"I came to your town" Town?! Try the capital city of wales, mate. This dildo needs to sell up before a bigger rift between the fans occurs.. his off the pitch antics cost us big time this season, he's been nothing but a f*cking embarrassment.

This is the reason I have just cancelled my renewal. While he is in charge I cannot contribute. Been a hard year and this statement is the last straw. Apologise my arse. This tw*t should be licking my shoes for mercy after the shit hes put us through. Doesnt feel the same anymore. Should have been the ggreatest year in our history. Instead its a chore to turn up.
My money and time is better spent elsewhere.
Over and out mister tan ya c&*t.

Watford here. Malky's departure as you will know caused a lot of hostility to him as a traitor and Cardiff for nicking our manager, players, transfer targets etc. Over the last couple of years the facts about the conditions that Malky and Dyche had to work under have been emerging, and he is now forgiven just about 100% for walking out. We were an hour away from administration before being taken over by Lawrence Bassini, who turned out too be dodgy, have no money and was a front for the shareholders who tried to force us into administration. He has now been banned from football by the FL.
Any player who would raise a fee was sold, we were forced to play the youngers squad in the league by using recently graduated academy players - we had the youngest matchday squads of any of the champ clubs.
Faced with this, he kept us roughly mid table, and when Dyche took over he managed similar results. Dyche hasn't done too badly at Burnley. (And Iain Moody seems to be working out pretty well at Palace)
For Tan to claim Malky is a poor manager is laughable, and days a lot more about Tan's ignorance than anything else. How anybody takes anything he says seriously is beyond me.

He is a poor manager when given money

The bit that scares me the most is the fact he says he's more involved than ever. We definitely don't need that clueless idiot involved. Going to do much more harm than good to have him involved on a day-to-day basis

Everytime he opens his mouth he brings more embarrassment on the club. Can't wait till he sells up and fucks off. That c8nt deserves relegation. He has brought it on himself. Think we were on 17 points from 18 before he starting getting involved.

10 weeks later and 5 points later, here we are. Guy shouldn't be allowed near a football club.

I will always support the team, at the moment however I despise us as a club.

The only thing I agree with is Malky was a poor manager, his time at Watford proves that without money he is shite.

I presume this is a joke.

Deadly serious, any joker could of got us promoted with the money given.

Cause in his first year with us he had so much money? Oh wait!

Success just isn't worth, Having a owner that couldn't give two shits about the fans.

And hes going to be more involved now because he all of a sudden knows a lot about football from some homework Which will be more of a disaster IMO.

After reading his interview i can think of two words.. TAN OUT!

"I came to your town" Town?! Try the capital city of wales, mate. This dildo needs to sell up before a bigger rift between the fans occurs.. his off the pitch antics cost us big time this season, he's been nothing but a f*cking embarrassment.

I think this was deliberate phrasing to show that there are bigger and better 'real' citys than Cardiff

The snide comments and constant belittling of fans and Malky was unbelivable - cannot belive how un proffessional he is

He needs to step away from the club and sell up - he is obviously getting as much enjoyment out of it as the fans are and it is never a good side when the owner is having a pop at the fans

The only thing I agree with is Malky was a poor manager, his time at Watford proves that without money he is shite.

I presume this is a joke.

Deadly serious, any joker could of got us promoted with the money given.

Can't you remember Malkys first season? He had to build a squad from scratch with losing all our best players burke, chopra, bothroyd etc and with very little money, He got us to a cup final and the playoffs with a squad punching well above their weight, Ok he didn't have the best style of play but it was effective, Malky was a fantastic manager.

I heard this on radio last nite and couldn't believe what I was hearing... If you haven't yet you should check it out, coz there's lots more...
He talks about the dragon being on the badge in 1937(!!!!) when we won fa cup etc etc etc
Actually I think he thinks he bought wales not ccfc

At least we now were we stand now, he has made his position clear here.

Gavin Well then we will always be a Divided club.
Once again he attacks Malky and the Dictator makes threats, he is a total Clown.
Tan should be getting us behind the team all as one, at least trying to.
Tan says he will be personally getting involved in future transfers, he hasn't a clue.
Threatens to walk, bull shit he wants out now, trying to blame our fans.
I will never stop fighting for our identity back

he says he will just buy anothe4r RED club, that's how much Cardiff City means to him, just a chuck away item which he would happily renew with another RED club

Tan just crossed the line. He is not welcome here anymore.

Let's let him hear it.

f**k the Premiership.

This is way more important.

He just slagged off and insulted us Cardiff lads in public.

If a bloke in the pub said shit like this we would have a word.

Time to make him realise it's not 90‰ that supports him, it's just a bunch of glory hunters who amount to about 10‰ and more like 30% when we play the likes of Liverpool and United.

Who are we?

What are we made of?

The Premiership and football League is watching us.

Do we fight or cling to a slack dream of the Premiership?

I know who I am.