THIS MUST BE A WIND UP SURELY

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Of course the OP has a point.

Imagine the last day of the season and we need a win against Chelsea to survive. Do you really think that it would do our team a lot of good to see a sea of blue in the stadium, and just because a load so called supporters can't put aside their personal preferences and fully support THE TEAM when it needs it the most? And those same people think that they are so loyal.

Cardiff City now play in red - like it or not. By all means campaign for our heritage, but don't delude yourselves that you are supporting THE TEAM by wearing blue.

I wear blue which according to you means I don't support the team.

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Answer me a question Alex. Why do I want to make you bleed ?

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Answer me a question Alex. Why do I want to make you bleed ?

he already bleeds once a month

Of course the OP has a point.

Imagine the last day of the season and we need a win against Chelsea to survive. Do you really think that it would do our team a lot of good to see a sea of blue in the stadium, and just because a load so called supporters can't put aside their personal preferences and fully support THE TEAM when it needs it the most? And those same people think that they are so loyal.

Cardiff City now play in red - like it or not. By all means campaign for our heritage, but don't delude yourselves that you are supporting THE TEAM by wearing blue.

I wear blue which according to you means I don't support the team.

The one thing I would bet my house on is that you won't have a stadium full of red and you wont be hearing Come On You Reds anytime soon. Face it, we are a Blue Club, playing in a predominantly Blue stadium and whose fans wearing Blue have completely drowned the few remaining reds. It was always going to be this way, and if you believe it won't be you are deluded. Blue Army.

Alot of fans would be amazed by the amount of people that tell the canton stand to shutup when they sing pro blue songs.

Alot of fans would be amazed by the amount of people that tell the canton stand to shutup when they sing pro blue songs.

Nah I am afraid it doesnt surprise me unfortunately.

Terry there's still a lot of red in the stadium and when the weather warms up and the coats come off you'll probably see a lot more.The team does wear red at home so if more fans done the same maybe they'll feel like their playing at home and the results could improve.

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Agreed, he doesn't have a point. I have always avoided topics on the re-brand, but this guy captures the mood only of himself and ignores the overwhelming majority of the fan base. I want to return to blue as soon as possible but i would prefer us not going bust in the achievement of this goal

Of course the OP has a point.

Imagine the last day of the season and we need a win against Chelsea to survive. Do you really think that it would do our team a lot of good to see a sea of blue in the stadium, and just because a load so called supporters can't put aside their personal preferences and fully support THE TEAM when it needs it the most? And those same people think that they are so loyal.

Cardiff City now play in red - like it or not. By all means campaign for our heritage, but don't delude yourselves that you are supporting THE TEAM by wearing blue.

I wear blue which according to you means I don't support the team.

Always knew you were a plastic Ian, the logic of the OP is awesome

Of course the OP has a point.

Imagine the last day of the season and we need a win against Chelsea to survive. Do you really think that it would do our team a lot of good to see a sea of blue in the stadium, and just because a load so called supporters can't put aside their personal preferences and fully support THE TEAM when it needs it the most? And those same people think that they are so loyal.

Cardiff City now play in red - like it or not. By all means campaign for our heritage, but don't delude yourselves that you are supporting THE TEAM by wearing blue.

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Agreed, he doesn't have a point. I have always avoided topics on the re-brand, but this guy captures the mood only of himself and ignores the overwhelming majority of the fan base. I want to return to blue as soon as possible but i would prefer us not going bust in the achievement of this goal

I don't think he does, i think the anti-red are just a very vocal minority.

Lad to see you finally agree Natman "Blue".

Quite the opposite. I just can't be bothered to discuss something with someone who just simply is determined to have an argument. Support the team during games and not protest, that can only be a good things but your determined not to see that so what's the point in carrying on the conversation any further.

If you can't just get behind the team regardless then maybe you should not bother at all.

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Agreed, he doesn't have a point. I have always avoided topics on the re-brand, but this guy captures the mood only of himself and ignores the overwhelming majority of the fan base. I want to return to blue as soon as possible but i would prefer us not going bust in the achievement of this goal

I don't think he does, i think the anti-red are just a very vocal minority.

If that is the case then why does not the club put it to the vote?

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Agreed, he doesn't have a point. I have always avoided topics on the re-brand, but this guy captures the mood only of himself and ignores the overwhelming majority of the fan base. I want to return to blue as soon as possible but i would prefer us not going bust in the achievement of this goal

I don't think he does, i think the anti-red are just a very vocal minority.

If that is the case then why does not the club put it to the vote?

I've no idea. You tell me?

But let's be clear, the reason it hasn't gone to vote may not be for some machiavellian scheme to suppress fan's opinions. They might just not want to do one or not considered doing one. This is the way they see as best to run the club and so this is how they will proceed. Running a business involves tough decisions that are not to everyone's taste, doesn't been you should consult everyone and every turn. We have no idea why there hasn't been and people would be wrong to suggest it was for one reason or another as they simply do not know!

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Agreed, he doesn't have a point. I have always avoided topics on the re-brand, but this guy captures the mood only of himself and ignores the overwhelming majority of the fan base. I want to return to blue as soon as possible but i would prefer us not going bust in the achievement of this goal

I don't think he does, i think the anti-red are just a very vocal minority.

If that is the case then why does not the club put it to the vote?

I've no idea. You tell me?

But let's be clear, the reason it hasn't gone to vote may not be for some machiavellian scheme to suppress fan's opinions. They might just not want to do one or not considered doing one. This is the way they see as best to run the club and so this is how they will proceed. Running a business involves tough decisions that are not to everyone's taste, doesn't been you should consult everyone and every turn. We have no idea why there hasn't been and people would be wrong to suggest it was for one reason or another as they simply do not know!

We all know why they won't put it to a vote and that is they won't get the reply they want.

It has become clear why they went down this route. Its also very clear its not the right thing to do. You lot might argue that only 2000 demonstrated from a base of 24000 but how many have supported this scheme
I don't hear much voice coming from that corner

This idiots is implying you should wear red else your not a genuine supporter. Well anyone agreeing is in the minority.

the man is a big red knob end

Just seen this on Facebook, guessing it is from the letters sent in to the Echo.

The guy can't honestly believe what he has written ?

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What a load of Bollocks Any City player I've spoken to have said how much respect they have for the Cardiff fans have stayed true to our identity and when they here We are Cardiff City we will always be BLUE they know its the diehards singing it.

Also funny how last season when we were runaway champions and we sang it every game, it never hurt our promotion run one bit

You're right and the guy has a point! (though I will probably be called a troll for daring to disagree with carl or Annis

HOW does he have a point Natman BLUE?!

Please don't tell me that you actually think Hull won because the fans were wearing blue?!

they were not exactly made to feel intimidated or uncomfortable

You're right and the guy has a point! (though I will probably be called a troll for daring to disagree with carl or Annis

HOW does he have a point Natman BLUE?!

Please don't tell me that you actually think Hull won because the fans were wearing blue?!

they were not exactly made to feel intimidated or uncomfortable

That's because the stadium was full of plastics and hung over rugby wankers, an the rest have turned soft.

Nothing to do with what colour anybody wore.

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Agreed, he doesn't have a point. I have always avoided topics on the re-brand, but this guy captures the mood only of himself and ignores the overwhelming majority of the fan base. I want to return to blue as soon as possible but i would prefer us not going bust in the achievement of this goal

I don't think he does, i think the anti-red are just a very vocal minority.

If that is the case then why does not the club put it to the vote?

I've no idea. You tell me?

But let's be clear, the reason it hasn't gone to vote may not be for some machiavellian scheme to suppress fan's opinions. They might just not want to do one or not considered doing one. This is the way they see as best to run the club and so this is how they will proceed. Running a business involves tough decisions that are not to everyone's taste, doesn't been you should consult everyone and every turn. We have no idea why there hasn't been and people would be wrong to suggest it was for one reason or another as they simply do not know!

We all know why they won't put it to a vote and that is they won't get the reply they want.

It has become clear why they went down this route. Its also very clear its not the right thing to do. You lot might argue that only 2000 demonstrated from a base of 24000 but how many have supported this scheme
I don't hear much voice coming from that corner

This idiots is implying you should wear red else your not a genuine supporter. Well anyone agreeing is in the minority.

yes HE does know he would lose a blue/red vote.it wouldnt even be close.

but some fans fail to see it would be a massive margin in favour of keeping tan if tan out went to a vote/

Just seen this on Facebook, guessing it is from the letters sent in to the Echo.

The guy can't honestly believe what he has written ?

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well,its different,ive read tons of extreme views on this topic,but not from that point of view.

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Agreed, he doesn't have a point. I have always avoided topics on the re-brand, but this guy captures the mood only of himself and ignores the overwhelming majority of the fan base. I want to return to blue as soon as possible but i would prefer us not going bust in the achievement of this goal

I don't think he does, i think the anti-red are just a very vocal minority.

If that is the case then why does not the club put it to the vote?

I've no idea. You tell me?

But let's be clear, the reason it hasn't gone to vote may not be for some machiavellian scheme to suppress fan's opinions. They might just not want to do one or not considered doing one. This is the way they see as best to run the club and so this is how they will proceed. Running a business involves tough decisions that are not to everyone's taste, doesn't been you should consult everyone and every turn. We have no idea why there hasn't been and people would be wrong to suggest it was for one reason or another as they simply do not know!

We all know why they won't put it to a vote and that is they won't get the reply they want.

It has become clear why they went down this route. Its also very clear its not the right thing to do. You lot might argue that only 2000 demonstrated from a base of 24000 but how many have supported this scheme
I don't hear much voice coming from that corner

This idiots is implying you should wear red else your not a genuine supporter. Well anyone agreeing is in the minority.

yes HE does know he would lose a blue/red vote.it wouldnt even be close.

but some fans fail to see it would be a massive margin in favour of keeping tan if tan out went to a vote/

being held to ransom is not what being a Cardiff City fan is all about.

You seem a bit of a bully on this forum Barry chuckles,been watching you for a while.Your the worst kind of internet user.

He states his opinions clearly and perhaps is not as open minded as others

But i have never seen a post of his which is abusive or overly insulting

So no he is not a bully

And as he uses facts, statistics and his opinion to back up his argument rather than shouting down users opinions blindly so i wouldnt call him the worst kind of internet user

And he has disagreed with me a few times...

You seem a bit of a bully on this forum Barry chuckles,been watching you for a while.Your the worst kind of internet user.

He states his opinions clearly and perhaps is not as open minded as others

But i have never seen a post of his which is abusive or overly insulting

So no he is not a bully

And as he uses facts, statistics and his opinion to back up his argument rather than shouting down users opinions blindly so i wouldnt call him the worst kind of internet user

And he has disagreed with me a few times...

I can assure you that chuckles made my life a misery for a while . Numerous unwanted Pms etc. He is a nasty piece of work.

Of course the OP has a point.

No he doesn't.

Agreed, he doesn't have a point. I have always avoided topics on the re-brand, but this guy captures the mood only of himself and ignores the overwhelming majority of the fan base. I want to return to blue as soon as possible but i would prefer us not going bust in the achievement of this goal

I don't think he does, i think the anti-red are just a very vocal minority.

If that is the case then why does not the club put it to the vote?

I've no idea. You tell me?

But let's be clear, the reason it hasn't gone to vote may not be for some machiavellian scheme to suppress fan's opinions. They might just not want to do one or not considered doing one. This is the way they see as best to run the club and so this is how they will proceed. Running a business involves tough decisions that are not to everyone's taste, doesn't been you should consult everyone and every turn. We have no idea why there hasn't been and people would be wrong to suggest it was for one reason or another as they simply do not know!

We all know why they won't put it to a vote and that is they won't get the reply they want.

It has become clear why they went down this route. Its also very clear its not the right thing to do. You lot might argue that only 2000 demonstrated from a base of 24000 but how many have supported this scheme
I don't hear much voice coming from that corner

This idiots is implying you should wear red else your not a genuine supporter. Well anyone agreeing is in the minority.

yes HE does know he would lose a blue/red vote.it wouldnt even be close.

but some fans fail to see it would be a massive margin in favour of keeping tan if tan out went to a vote/

being held to ransom is not what being a Cardiff City fan is all about.

i have a choice watch or dont watch.......i dont like the red or the badge, went in the shop today to look around,its not just the red, its that bloody badge on everything, i cant ever
see me buy any of it..but its a choice..i have my soul,my identity and nothing can change history even the bit in red..........
but its not blackmail or ransom, and views vary a lot......there was a guy wanting a BLUE top this years on here........he HATES TAN.AND HATES THE REBRAND.......you speak to him and then me for 5mins each,and youd conclude he felt far more strongly against the rebrand than i do........yet he would buy a blue rebrand shirt..i woulnt want one to use as a rag........and thats how mixed up it is........all different opinions

All the players who signed for us since promotion couldn't give a f**k about the fans lets be honest, they are here because Tans money is quite good. That said us singing pro blue songs won't effect the team in the slightest neither will what colours we wear.

Red or blue everyone in the stadium should be backing the team that can be done whether you want the blue back or not.

All the players who signed for us since promotion couldn't give a f**k about the fans lets be honest, they are here because Tans money is quite good. That said us singing pro blue songs won't effect the team in the slightest neither will what colours we wear.

Red or blue everyone in the stadium should be backing the team that can be done whether you want the blue back or not.

Ol man you are right . Who else were we going to attract apart from mercenaries with the Circus we are all part of.

You seem a bit of a bully on this forum Barry chuckles,been watching you for a while.Your the worst kind of internet user.

He states his opinions clearly and perhaps is not as open minded as others

But i have never seen a post of his which is abusive or overly insulting

So no he is not a bully

And as he uses facts, statistics and his opinion to back up his argument rather than shouting down users opinions blindly so i wouldnt call him the worst kind of internet user

And he has disagreed with me a few times...

I can assure you that chuckles made my life a misery for a while . Numerous unwanted Pms etc. He is a nasty piece of work.

I dont want to get involved but it seems that its more a mutual dislike between the two of you and that you are both guilty of agitating the other.

You're signiture is: Pedantic Cry Baby Chuckle Busting since 2013 - Which I am sure is only going to exacerbate the situation

From my point of view anyway I cannot view him as a Bully and I think that ultimatly its a disagreement in footballing opinions which causes bad feeling on this forum - its part an parcel of open discussion

I can respect that.