''Current blame for Cardiff's crisis lies with one man only'

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

Vincent Tan for the way he has handled the Club totally overall.

Memhet Dalaman for the way he handled sacking the last and bringing in the inexperienced Manager simply because hes an ex Manchester United name.Dalaman was quoted as saying he felt he was the " cat who got the cream" & " there was only ever one man for this job"

Simon Lim. Making the Club look totally pathetic with his recent statements.

OGS, being clearly very naive making the statement and belief that he could " change the way and play his way of attacking football out of a relegation battle. Signing the wrong players in the transfer window, Fabio everyone knew was the hopeless brother, the Norway signings were never going to step up to the different level of the Premiership, especially a relegation battle.

Fabio started a champions league final for Manure. Amazing but true. Even more amazing a sensible post from Daya.

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

Vincent Tan for the way he has handled the Club totally overall.

Memhet Dalaman for the way he handled sacking the last and bringing in the inexperienced Manager simply because hes an ex Manchester United name.Dalaman was quoted as saying he felt he was the " cat who got the cream" & " there was only ever one man for this job"

Simon Lim. Making the Club look totally pathetic with his recent statements.

OGS, being clearly very naive making the statement and belief that he could " change the way and play his way of attacking football out of a relegation battle. Signing the wrong players in the transfer window, Fabio everyone knew was the hopeless brother, the Norway signings were never going to step up to the different level of the Premiership, especially a relegation battle.

Sadly you are right steve and tan apart we have had two very poor transfer windows where we have signed mostly championship quality players.
The interference from tan and his man utd loving son is the only reason Zaha is at the club and the man utd cast offs.
Malkys much vaunted dossier system failed the club miserably if people are honest and ole's signings have been poor as well.
I doubt if anyone going to the stadium yesterday would have envisaged cowie and wolf as our central midfield.
Ole seems to be out of his depth and has no real idea as to what his best eleven is. The constant rotation every game can not fill any of the playing staff with confidence knowing that a man of the match performance the likes of which turner gave against villa can see you dropped for the next two games.
As much as people seem impressed by cala yesterday I don't think turner would have given jelavic such an easy ride all afternoon.
Tan for all his faults( and they are many) has been let down by both managers who have mis spent considerable amounts of money over two windows.
We were a much better side than hull last year but 9 months on we were setting wolf and cowie up against Livermore mayler and huddlestone in midfield which highlights the poor spending of both managers.

I don't think either of this season's managers have exactly covered themselves with glory. Our squad looks to consist mainly of championship players, with the odd bottom half premiership player thrown in for luck. Goals have been hard to come by all season, and yet we spent millions on a striker who was considered one for the future. I doubt if Steve Bruce would have tried to sign many of our players, yet seems to be doing a lot better with fewer resources. Unfortunately, we have an owner with no experience of football, and we've had two managers with no experience of management at this level. Add on the off field disputes, and I suppose what has happened was inevitable. Don't think its coincidence that the two bottom clubs both have owners who should have stayed well away from football.

Steve, it's sad to see the demise of what was a great football club. Tan killed it with all his nonsense.

As for footballing matters, I think your a little harsh on MM but understand you didn't enjoy his style of play. As for the replacement very poor and your correct it's all based on Manchester United supporters trying to form a Manchester United 2 from fresh air to red strips. Sad Sad state of affairs of what was a fantastic football club.

Steve, it's sad to see the demise of what was a great football club. Tan killed it with all his nonsense.

As for footballing matters, I think your a little harsh on MM but understand you didn't enjoy his style of play. As for the replacement very poor and your correct it's all based on Manchester United supporters trying to form a Manchester United 2 from fresh air to red strips. Sad Sad state of affairs of what was a fantastic football club.

Steve you probably know the same as me that tan was unhappy with malkys style of football prior to promotion and if he felt that strongly he should have replaced him in the summer.
I believe we went up last season due to the ten consecutive home wins at the start of the season but if you look at the final ten games our form was quite poor and every week when we stumbled so did the clubs around us.
The club is being used as a subutteo set by tan and his son and as you say trying to create man utd version two.
But even taking that into consideration he has fully backed two managers over two windows who have let him down with their signings.
I try to console myself by thinking at least if we go down we will have a strong championship squad which will hopefully challenge for the title straight away but I now think that we don't have the manager for that job

I don't think either of this season's managers have exactly covered themselves with glory. Our squad looks to consist mainly of championship players, with the odd bottom half premiership player thrown in for luck. Goals have been hard to come by all season, and yet we spent millions on a striker who was considered one for the future. I doubt if Steve Bruce would have tried to sign many of our players, yet seems to be doing a lot better with fewer resources. Unfortunately, we have an owner with no experience of football, and we've had two managers with no experience of management at this level. Add on the off field disputes, and I suppose what has happened was inevitable. Don't think its coincidence that the two bottom clubs both have owners who should have stayed well away from football.

Mark,

Personally speaking I thought you had a chance under Malky, was never going to be easy first season up and especially with the constant interference with Malaysian Board Circus which quite frankly in my opinion will never work. Agree some of the signings he brought in were overpaid and poor. Despite that I thought you had a fighting chance with him. OK sack him, but replace him with someone with some creditability. It was clear and evident MM was to be disposed of before the transfer window. So at that stage he should have gone when Tony Pullis was available and would have taken the Cardiff Job. The rest speaks for itself.

Perhaps some fans will now realise what we had in Malky but then again..............

I wish people would stop going on about malky being some sort of god .
Yes he was a nice guy and a decent manager who still had a lot to learn , but the football was dire , results were bad and his signings for the most part poor .
His last 6 games as our manager we scored 1 goal conceded 12 . Got smashed at Southampton , outplayed by palace and were woeful at stoke , we were on the brink of the relegation places and he was sacked because results . His time here was for the most part fantastic but was out of his depth in the premier league and deserved to go IMO .

Who said Malky was a god. I have said on many occasions that Malky did not always play the most attractive fotball but he was always able to get the odd draw or win and rarely did his sides give in and lie down like under Ole. Malky was not sacked because results, he was sacked because he upset the owner and the owners ego made him sack our best manager in recent times. If Malky had been given a chance to strengthen then we would not be in this predicament but lots of fans did not raise much of a whimper when he went and were blinded by the prospect of the new messaih who has turned out to be way out of his depth.
If any club deserves to be relegated then it is us. We are rotten from the top to the bottom and that includes some of our fanbase. Perhaps when Tan goes we can all start again but that day cannot come soon enough.

Perhaps some fans will now realise what we had in Malky but then again..............

Some fans do which was why we were glad he was sacked.

Rubbish. keep worshipping Ole if you want but it won't be in the Prem.

I don't think either of this season's managers have exactly covered themselves with glory. Our squad looks to consist mainly of championship players, with the odd bottom half premiership player thrown in for luck. Goals have been hard to come by all season, and yet we spent millions on a striker who was considered one for the future. I doubt if Steve Bruce would have tried to sign many of our players, yet seems to be doing a lot better with fewer resources. Unfortunately, we have an owner with no experience of football, and we've had two managers with no experience of management at this level. Add on the off field disputes, and I suppose what has happened was inevitable. Don't think its coincidence that the two bottom clubs both have owners who should have stayed well away from football.

Mark,

Personally speaking I thought you had a chance under Malky, was never going to be easy first season up and especially with the constant interference with Malaysian Board Circus which quite frankly in my opinion will never work. Agree some of the signings he brought in were overpaid and poor. Despite that I thought you had a fighting chance with him. OK sack him, but replace him with someone with some creditability. It was clear and evident MM was to be disposed of before the transfer window. So at that stage he should have gone when Tony Pullis was available and would have taken the Cardiff Job. The rest speaks for itself.

Don't disagree with any of that. I was a Malky supporter who believed he should have been given the chance to at least try and keep us in this division, but still not sure that he would have given the lack of quality in the squad. I think a lot of his signings were questionable, but he probably should have had the chance to prove that they weren't as bad as some of us may have believed. Unfortunately, we'll never know if he could have kept us up, but if I was a betting man, I think I would have been inclined to put money on us not surviving. I think given everything that's gone on this season, the odds were stacked against us.

Steve, it's sad to see the demise of what was a great football club. Tan killed it with all his nonsense.

As for footballing matters, I think your a little harsh on MM but understand you didn't enjoy his style of play. As for the replacement very poor and your correct it's all based on Manchester United supporters trying to form a Manchester United 2 from fresh air to red strips. Sad Sad state of affairs of what was a fantastic football club.

Steve you probably know the same as me that tan was unhappy with malkys style of football prior to promotion and if he felt that strongly he should have replaced him in the summer.
I believe we went up last season due to the ten consecutive home wins at the start of the season but if you look at the final ten games our form was quite poor and every week when we stumbled so did the clubs around us.
The club is being used as a subutteo set by tan and his son and as you say trying to create man utd version two.
But even taking that into consideration he has fully backed two managers over two windows who have let him down with their signings.
I try to console myself by thinking at least if we go down we will have a strong championship squad which will hopefully challenge for the title straight away but I now think that we don't have the manager for that job

Hi Steve,

I wasn't aware of that but if that was the case then agree with you, should have thanked him for his achievements, paid him off fairly and moved on if that was the case.

Agree regards your Subbetto set thoughts, it's been evident for a very long while the way it was to go when the initial Malaysian flags started arriving and was the start of the demise of what was a fantastic football club.

Agree again regards both Managers signings. When he signed the Danish flop, I had indicated to the Club he was available for far less and gave them the Danish contact that would have seen a transfer of less than 5 million. It was ignored ( no surprise) and the rest is now history, so you could say the fault lies with both the Manager his recruitment staff and the Clubs Directors who of course had to sanction the deal.

Meanwhile other " expensive" transactions took place it seems which no doubt bring about the legal disputes of the contract termination.

Agree again. Can't see the current Manager getting the Club out the Championship. Just because he has a Manchester United back ground doesn't mean anything at all. Just hype. You have to look no further than Roy Keane and his Management exploits at Sunderland and Ipswich.

All very sad and quite frankly one big mess which starts at the very top, seeps through to the fools in place like Dalaman and Lim and then through to the Management and playing staff.

All are responsible for bringing what was a great a great once club not only to its knees but a total embarrassment in footballing circles across the globe.

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

Tan and Malky

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

Vincent Tan for the way he has handled the Club totally overall.

Memhet Dalaman for the way he handled sacking the last and bringing in the inexperienced Manager simply because hes an ex Manchester United name.Dalaman was quoted as saying he felt he was the " cat who got the cream" & " there was only ever one man for this job"

Simon Lim. Making the Club look totally pathetic with his recent statements.

OGS, being clearly very naive making the statement and belief that he could " change the way and play his way of attacking football out of a relegation battle. Signing the wrong players in the transfer window, Fabio everyone knew was the hopeless brother, the Norway signings were never going to step up to the different level of the Premiership, especially a relegation battle.

Sadly you are right steve and tan apart we have had two very poor transfer windows where we have signed mostly championship quality players.
The interference from tan and his man utd loving son is the only reason Zaha is at the club and the man utd cast offs.
Malkys much vaunted dossier system failed the club miserably if people are honest and ole's signings have been poor as well.
I doubt if anyone going to the stadium yesterday would have envisaged cowie and wolf as our central midfield.
Ole seems to be out of his depth and has no real idea as to what his best eleven is. The constant rotation every game can not fill any of the playing staff with confidence knowing that a man of the match performance the likes of which turner gave against villa can see you dropped for the next two games.
As much as people seem impressed by cala yesterday I don't think turner would have given jelavic such an easy ride all afternoon.
Tan for all his faults( and they are many) has been let down by both managers who have mis spent considerable amounts of money over two windows.
We were a much better side than hull last year but 9 months on we were setting wolf and cowie up against Livermore mayler and huddlestone in midfield which highlights the poor spending of both managers.

Ole hasn't really had or been given a chance in the transfer market yet. malky had many chances. cowie and wolf played because maybe mutch and medel are injured

I blame dave jones

Based on your theory Annis. Tan is the man who got us promoted then, he takes all that glory, he is the man who got us a cup final, he takes the credit. He signed the cheques for Noone, Caulker and the good signings so he must take the credit.

Not a chance!!

The good signings we made were down to the manager that signed them, the same as the bad signings. Our form this season is down to both managers and players! We had off the field shit last season and it didnt effect the players so why does it this season?

Our single biggest failure was failing to address the same issue we had since Malky took over......a goalscorer! The amount of money Malky had to spend it was criminal it wasnt addressed! We are creating chances we just have nobody to put them away.

Craig I believe Annis is referring to the running of the club and the decisions Tan makes and the effect it has on the club, its success, the failings, its debt and its problems.

The owner is the decision maker and when things go well then he wants to take the credit but on the flip side he must shoulder blame if it fails.

The 'Tan' statement released by Lim was an attempt to pass the buck and abolish any blame for failure this season to the owner.

But the owner is responsible for the way the club is run and I don't think anybody can claim to be totally happy with how the club is run this season with so much that has gone on.

I agree so why didn't you or Annis speak out about the way the club was run under Hammam like you constantly have under Tan and Ridsdale?

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Ole hasn't really had or been given a chance in the transfer market yet. malky had many chances. cowie and wolf played because maybe mutch and medel are injured[/quote]

Rubbish, 5 of Ole's players played yesterday and we still lost.

Ole hasn't really had or been given a chance in the transfer market yet. malky had many chances. cowie and wolf played because maybe mutch and medel are injured[/quote]

Rubbish, 5 of Ole's players played yesterday and we still lost.[/quote]

Ole hasn't had a chance to settle and do his own thing and you know it

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

Vincent Tan for the way he has handled the Club totally overall.

Memhet Dalaman for the way he handled sacking the last and bringing in the inexperienced Manager simply because hes an ex Manchester United name.Dalaman was quoted as saying he felt he was the " cat who got the cream" & " there was only ever one man for this job"

Simon Lim. Making the Club look totally pathetic with his recent statements.

OGS, being clearly very naive making the statement and belief that he could " change the way and play his way of attacking football out of a relegation battle. Signing the wrong players in the transfer window, Fabio everyone knew was the hopeless brother, the Norway signings were never going to step up to the different level of the Premiership, especially a relegation battle.

steve your right buck stops with all of them and clearly the players who cant convert a cross into a goal on another note a agood friend who knows nothing about football was talking to a certain person from prisk and he was bleating on about why they all call malky milky have your heard anything ???????? some very intresting stuff from someone who has no need to lie

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

What a load of nonsense,first of all Tan may have sanctioned the signings but it was Mackay list of players that he sanctioned

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

the return of sam hammam nqat. all the off field stuff started about 5 mins after he arrived and it's all gone pete tong from there.

Tan needs to pay up and f**k off

Based on your theory Annis. Tan is the man who got us promoted then, he takes all that glory, he is the man who got us a cup final, he takes the credit. He signed the cheques for Noone, Caulker and the good signings so he must take the credit.

Not a chance!!

The good signings we made were down to the manager that signed them, the same as the bad signings. Our form this season is down to both managers and players! We had off the field shit last season and it didnt effect the players so why does it this season?

Our single biggest failure was failing to address the same issue we had since Malky took over......a goalscorer! The amount of money Malky had to spend it was criminal it wasnt addressed! We are creating chances we just have nobody to put them away.

Craig I believe Annis is referring to the running of the club and the decisions Tan makes and the effect it has on the club, its success, the failings, its debt and its problems.

The owner is the decision maker and when things go well then he wants to take the credit but on the flip side he must shoulder blame if it fails.

The 'Tan' statement released by Lim was an attempt to pass the buck and abolish any blame for failure this season to the owner.

But the owner is responsible for the way the club is run and I don't think anybody can claim to be totally happy with how the club is run this season with so much that has gone on.

I agree so why didn't you or Annis speak out about the way the club was run under Hammam like you constantly have under Tan and Ridsdale?

Jinks i did remember

but seriously you are actually correct. It's been a very long spiral of events built on mountains of debt and mismanagement of many.

Hammam...... over spent and borrowed,to get to the Championship, brought in the Riddler who is a calamity in what ever circle, and at financial ruination stage entered the Malaysian Circus who at least had one thing going for them that they actually had some dollar.

A complete spiral of events. Starting in 2000 and being of the position today in 2014.

Based on your theory Annis. Tan is the man who got us promoted then, he takes all that glory, he is the man who got us a cup final, he takes the credit. He signed the cheques for Noone, Caulker and the good signings so he must take the credit.

Not a chance!!

The good signings we made were down to the manager that signed them, the same as the bad signings. Our form this season is down to both managers and players! We had off the field shit last season and it didnt effect the players so why does it this season?

Our single biggest failure was failing to address the same issue we had since Malky took over......a goalscorer! The amount of money Malky had to spend it was criminal it wasnt addressed! We are creating chances we just have nobody to put them away.

Craig I believe Annis is referring to the running of the club and the decisions Tan makes and the effect it has on the club, its success, the failings, its debt and its problems.

The owner is the decision maker and when things go well then he wants to take the credit but on the flip side he must shoulder blame if it fails.

The 'Tan' statement released by Lim was an attempt to pass the buck and abolish any blame for failure this season to the owner.

But the owner is responsible for the way the club is run and I don't think anybody can claim to be totally happy with how the club is run this season with so much that has gone on.

I agree so why didn't you or Annis speak out about the way the club was run under Hammam like you constantly have under Tan and Ridsdale?

Jinks i did remember

but seriously you are actually correct. It's been a very long spiral of events built on mountains of debt and mismanagement of many.

Hammam...... over spent and borrowed,to get to the Championship, brought in the Riddler who is a calamity in what ever circle, and at financial ruination stage entered the Malaysian Circus who at least had one thing going for them that they actually had some dollar.

A complete spiral of events. Starting in 2000 and being of the position today in 2014.

Steve, the debt was was about Half a million in the year 2000, by 2006 it was £24 Million, by 2014 it is now approx £150 Million

Based on your theory Annis. Tan is the man who got us promoted then, he takes all that glory, he is the man who got us a cup final, he takes the credit. He signed the cheques for Noone, Caulker and the good signings so he must take the credit.

Not a chance!!

The good signings we made were down to the manager that signed them, the same as the bad signings. Our form this season is down to both managers and players! We had off the field shit last season and it didnt effect the players so why does it this season?

Our single biggest failure was failing to address the same issue we had since Malky took over......a goalscorer! The amount of money Malky had to spend it was criminal it wasnt addressed! We are creating chances we just have nobody to put them away.

Craig I believe Annis is referring to the running of the club and the decisions Tan makes and the effect it has on the club, its success, the failings, its debt and its problems.

The owner is the decision maker and when things go well then he wants to take the credit but on the flip side he must shoulder blame if it fails.

The 'Tan' statement released by Lim was an attempt to pass the buck and abolish any blame for failure this season to the owner.

But the owner is responsible for the way the club is run and I don't think anybody can claim to be totally happy with how the club is run this season with so much that has gone on.

I agree so why didn't you or Annis speak out about the way the club was run under Hammam like you constantly have under Tan and Ridsdale?

Jinks i did remember

but seriously you are actually correct. It's been a very long spiral of events built on mountains of debt and mismanagement of many.

Hammam...... over spent and borrowed,to get to the Championship, brought in the Riddler who is a calamity in what ever circle, and at financial ruination stage entered the Malaysian Circus who at least had one thing going for them that they actually had some dollar.

A complete spiral of events. Starting in 2000 and being of the position today in 2014.

Steve, the debt was was about Half a million in the year 2000, by 2006 it was £24 Million, by 2014 it is now approx £150 Million

As I said a spiral of events.

Rather like you fell out with Sam and didn't speak a year, fell out with Riddler and organised a march , and detest Tan.

Hasn't been a 14 years of harmony has it? Certainly not a spiral of love.

Based on your theory Annis. Tan is the man who got us promoted then, he takes all that glory, he is the man who got us a cup final, he takes the credit. He signed the cheques for Noone, Caulker and the good signings so he must take the credit.

Not a chance!!

The good signings we made were down to the manager that signed them, the same as the bad signings. Our form this season is down to both managers and players! We had off the field shit last season and it didnt effect the players so why does it this season?

Our single biggest failure was failing to address the same issue we had since Malky took over......a goalscorer! The amount of money Malky had to spend it was criminal it wasnt addressed! We are creating chances we just have nobody to put them away.

Craig I believe Annis is referring to the running of the club and the decisions Tan makes and the effect it has on the club, its success, the failings, its debt and its problems.

The owner is the decision maker and when things go well then he wants to take the credit but on the flip side he must shoulder blame if it fails.

The 'Tan' statement released by Lim was an attempt to pass the buck and abolish any blame for failure this season to the owner.

But the owner is responsible for the way the club is run and I don't think anybody can claim to be totally happy with how the club is run this season with so much that has gone on.

I agree so why didn't you or Annis speak out about the way the club was run under Hammam like you constantly have under Tan and Ridsdale?

Jinks i did remember

but seriously you are actually correct. It's been a very long spiral of events built on mountains of debt and mismanagement of many.

Hammam...... over spent and borrowed,to get to the Championship, brought in the Riddler who is a calamity in what ever circle, and at financial ruination stage entered the Malaysian Circus who at least had one thing going for them that they actually had some dollar.

A complete spiral of events. Starting in 2000 and being of the position today in 2014.

Steve, the debt was was about Half a million in the year 2000, by 2006 it was £24 Million, by 2014 it is now approx £150 Million

As I said a spiral of events.

Rather like you fell out with Sam and didn't speak a year, fell out with Riddler and organised a march , and detest Tan.

Hasn't been a 14 years of harmony has it? Certainly not a spiral of love.

They should keep to their promises Steve
Sam changed our badge and sold our Welsh players, The Riddler lied on the season ticket Money and well Tan he stripped us of our identity and in some ways may as well killed us.

Ole hasn't really had or been given a chance in the transfer market yet. malky had many chances. cowie and wolf played because maybe mutch and medel are injured

Rubbish, 5 of Ole's players played yesterday and we still lost.[/quote]

Ole hasn't had a chance to settle and do his own thing and you know it [/quote]

We all knew Ole had to hit the ground running given our position in the league. Ole walked into this position fully knowing these facts. Ole is trying to play attacking football without the skills in his team to pull it off. I am sure if we had a suarez up front then his tactics might pay off but he has to cut his cloth to suit. We do not have the time to wait till he cuts his teeth and that is why we are going down for sure.

Based on your theory Annis. Tan is the man who got us promoted then, he takes all that glory, he is the man who got us a cup final, he takes the credit. He signed the cheques for Noone, Caulker and the good signings so he must take the credit.

Not a chance!!

The good signings we made were down to the manager that signed them, the same as the bad signings. Our form this season is down to both managers and players! We had off the field shit last season and it didnt effect the players so why does it this season?

Our single biggest failure was failing to address the same issue we had since Malky took over......a goalscorer! The amount of money Malky had to spend it was criminal it wasnt addressed! We are creating chances we just have nobody to put them away.

Craig I believe Annis is referring to the running of the club and the decisions Tan makes and the effect it has on the club, its success, the failings, its debt and its problems.

The owner is the decision maker and when things go well then he wants to take the credit but on the flip side he must shoulder blame if it fails.

The 'Tan' statement released by Lim was an attempt to pass the buck and abolish any blame for failure this season to the owner.

But the owner is responsible for the way the club is run and I don't think anybody can claim to be totally happy with how the club is run this season with so much that has gone on.

I agree so why didn't you or Annis speak out about the way the club was run under Hammam like you constantly have under Tan and Ridsdale?

Jinks i did remember

but seriously you are actually correct. It's been a very long spiral of events built on mountains of debt and mismanagement of many.

Hammam...... over spent and borrowed,to get to the Championship, brought in the Riddler who is a calamity in what ever circle, and at financial ruination stage entered the Malaysian Circus who at least had one thing going for them that they actually had some dollar.

A complete spiral of events. Starting in 2000 and being of the position today in 2014.

Steve, the debt was was about Half a million in the year 2000, by 2006 it was £24 Million, by 2014 it is now approx £150 Million

As I said a spiral of events.

Rather like you fell out with Sam and didn't speak a year, fell out with Riddler and organised a march , and detest Tan.

Hasn't been a 14 years of harmony has it? Certainly not a spiral of love.

They should keep to their promises Steve
Sam changed our badge and sold our Welsh players, The Riddler lied on the season ticket Money and well Tan he stripped us of our identity and in some ways may as well killed us.

Sharks the lot of them. Riddler did a lot more than that too

And then there's the ones behind the scenes. Sold their souls for £ or just used your Club to gain £ too.

It's the genuine fan/ supporter who suffers and that's the very sad thing of it all.

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

Agree 100%, Annis. Tan needs to leave ASAP for the good of the club. He has brought nothing but trouble and division.

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

We can't blame anyone but ourselves. The fans are to blame.

We were seduced by the money and the majority of fans shut their mouths when they were needed most and only started to open them recently when it's too late.

If the fans had been united and shown some bollocks when Tan start fiddling with our club he would have gone by now - so what if we went down a few divisions as a result, at least it would still be our club. When Tan started messing around and destroying our identity I am amazed that fans thought he would stop there and as history has proved he can't keep his snout out of every area of the club... his reign has been a disaster and I am not sure if we can ever recover - BUT WE LET IT HAPPEN.

...the fans bought into 'red or dead' bullshit and were seduced by the money - even some fans on this board defending Tan and the Rebrand when others spoke out against it.

Thankfully I am working abroad and don't have to endure it as much as you all but I'll never step foot in the stadium again while we play in Red.

' The current blame for Cardiff City's crisis lies with one man and one man only '

Vincent Tan is the owner,he has sacked Malky,he sanctioned all the transfers,then publicly undermined the manager,divided our fans on the rebrand/Malky/created mass debt,yet to deliver on solving the debt and Tan has also created an international media circus which has rounded on the club.

After sacking Malky, rightly or wrongly, Tan then brings in an inexperienced manager for the Premier League of all the divisions and a relegation battle to boot.

To sum it up, Vincent Tan is the man at the top and gives all the orders, so takes the credit when all goes right(walking around the pitch after Bolton game taking the plaudits) and when all goes wrong thanks to his clueless football knowledge.


Who do you blame for the whole current crisis?

We can't blame anyone but ourselves. The fans are to blame.

We were seduced by the money and the majority of fans shut their mouths when they were needed most and only started to open them recently when it's too late.

If the fans had been united and shown some bollocks when Tan start fiddling with our club he would have gone by now - wo what if we went down a few divisions, at least it would still be our club. When he started messing around and destroying our identity I am amazed that fans thought he would stop there and as history has proved he can't keep his snout out pf every area of the club... his reign has been a disaster and I am not sure if we can ever recover - BUT WE LET IT HAPPEN.

...the fans bought into 'red or dead' bullshit and were seduced by the money - even some fans on this board defending Tan and the Rebrand when others spoke out against it.

spot on.

I blame Vincent tan for the unbalanced circus of a club we currently have .
I blame Malky mackay for the lack of quality in our squad after having roughly 40 mill to spend it should be better
I blame oles tinkering for the current form of the team .
I blame ( most ) of the players for not having the bollocks to fight for survival and prove everyone wrong by staying up

It's not just down to one man it's been a collective effort all season

Don't forget our shite fans for not getting behind the team on the pitch!!