Malky Haters

I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.

Spot on for me.

Being negative is one thing but not even trying to win games and just defending and hoping for a set piece was just to much.

Nobody hates Malky so lets just clear that up.

I wanted him replaced as I was and still are convinced we were going down. IF we go down now at least it will be having a go. The Aston Villa game was the most enjoyment Ive had since Wolves at the beginning of last season. Not overly bothered what league we are in, Ive already renewed and look forward to some real football....the game I fell in love with.

So you preferred the villa game to the man city home game?

Nobody hates Malky so lets just clear that up.

I wanted him replaced as I was and still are convinced we were going down. IF we go down now at least it will be having a go. The Aston Villa game was the most enjoyment Ive had since Wolves at the beginning of last season. Not overly bothered what league we are in, Ive already renewed and look forward to some real football....the game I fell in love with.

So you preferred the villa game to the man city home game?

I said enjoyment. The villa game was better to watch and more enjoyable as we had more than 30% possesion and we attacked. Obviously the Man city result was fantastic

I was one who thought malky had to go but i certainly didn't hate him, who can forget the cup final and him bringing us top flight football for the first time in 51 years??? he deserves all the credit for that and the respect that goes with it. His signings in the summer, in general, have been poor and even his good signings were way overpriced, we were conceding almost two goals a game and scoring less than one goal a game under malky, his last two games in charge were all over before the half hour mark (3-0 down at liverpool after 20 minutes and 3-0 down at home to southampton after 30 minutes) and does anyone think he would have done any better in january with away games at arsenal, man city and man utd??? no team in the history of the premiership has spent more money on summer signings in their promotion season than us then to be served up in most cases with mind numbing football, (even all the tv experts made weekly comments about it) others on this thread have mentioned some of his strange dealings (Cornelius, brayford etc) but our biggest forward threat this season has been noone so why did it take malky four months to give him some game time??? for me if it was going to happen then malky should have gone when moody went, that way ole could have had two months before the opening of the transfer window to suss out what was needed. Thanks for everything malky and good luck in the future, now we move on.

I don't think anyone hates Malky, the main issue is that Cardiff were so negative but yet didn't have a great defensive record in the league.

He'd spent enough money to get two decent squad players for the price of Cornelius. Played Odemwingie woefully out of position, spent money on Brayford for no reason and spent the summer chasing players that he didn't get. Also his treatment of Noone was questionable at best.

Obviously not everything was his fault. Tan really turned up the crazy and made his job basically unworkable and he deserves serious credit for remaining professional during that period.

Overall he did a fantastic job, cup final, play offs then title winners. But ultimately his style became dour and he was unwilling to change. Playing such a negative team against Palace was really unforgivable.

I think you're being a little harsh on Malky's style. As a newly promoted team, I had no problem with Malky being negative away from home, even at Crystal Palace. I think every point away from home is a bonus in this league. We also played 9 home games under Malky with 7 of those 9 home games being against teams currently in the top 9 of the league, so Malky had no other option but to set us up negatively at home as well. We still picked up some good results at home which kept us above the relegation zone all season (apart from the first day) and our only 2 home games against current bottom half of the league opposition - Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0. This shows Malky would have been capable of picking up wins at home against the bottom half teams in the second half of the season to keep us up. I don't know what more Malky could have done to be honest.

But unfortunately, we have a deluded owner who thinks we can attack teams and win games with style. We also have deluded fans who wanted to see more exciting football and I suppose they are getting that, watching us concede 2 goals at home to Wigan, 3 at Swansea etc. We have gone from an organised unit who could grind out results to an open, vulnerable soft touch. I will not blame Ole mind, he seems a good guy and he wants us to play a certain way. But drastically changing the good work Malky has done half way through the season was suicidal. But that's not Ole's fault, there's only one egotistical man to blame for letting his personal jealousy of Malky's popularity interfere with what's best for our club. If we get relegated, it will all be Vincent Tan's fault.

We lost 3-0 at home under malky against Southampton 2-0 away palace 4-1 to Chelsea 2-0 to west ham 3-0 to arsenal 2-0 to villa 3-1 to Liverpool So that's 19 goals from 7 games, malky leaked goals like a tap.

Ole has conceded 14 goals from his first 7 games.

1-0 wins at home to Swansea and West Brom, that's 0 goals conceded in 2 games. Surely you can't list the Southampton game, Tan's disruption with the email, 45 minute protest at Anfield etc caused that. We also played very well at Chelsea and home to Arsenal and only conceded late goals because we went for an equaliser. Yes, Malky wasn't sitting back, he attacked at Chelsea, taking Medel off and putting Kim on at 1-1! Still, focus on all the negatives (which Tan undoubtedly contributed to with his off the pitch disruption) to suit your agenda.

Malky was in charge during the 3-0 drubbing at home by Southampton, it was Malkys job to organise the team as he was still being paid to do so, malky should of put the team first not him, if he cannot set up a team because an email has been sent to him then he's a weaker manager than I thought.

So going by your method, does that mean 1 of west hams goals do not count because we were all out attack looking for the equaliser

If you honestly don't think the events leading up to the Southampton game drastically had an effect on our performance, you're more bonkers than I thought. I really don't know what you're going on about with your West Ham remark either. 3 of the 4 goals Man City scored against us were on the break because we attacked them and we played really well at Man City under Ole. We also played really well at Chelsea and at home to Arsenal under Malky, attacking them and then be caught on the break to concede a few late goals. The "negative" Malky knockers seem to forget about those games for some reason, trying to take the game to the very best in this division!

Everyone knows what happened at the games and everyone knows what happened off the pitch to disrupt Malky's good work, so it's pointless you trying to twist things. You are so anti Malky, I would swear you're Vincent Tan himself! Clearly, it's impossible having a mature debate with you so this is the last response you will get from me in this thread.

I was a MM supporter, and don't agree with all Kenfig's Blue comments, but can see where he's coming from. He is putting a point of view across, and at least he hasn't thrown his toys out of the pram just because he has a different point of view to someone else.

I was a MM supporter, and don't agree with all Kenfig's Blue comments, but can see where he's coming from. He is putting a point of view across, and at least he hasn't thrown his toys out of the pram just because he has a different point of view to someone else.

That's what people do on here, if they disagree with your view your 'bonkers' or an 'idiot'. Leave him to it shows his insecurities

Think we also need to take into account the conditions Malky had to work under.

To say the relationship between Malky and Tan was strained is the understatement of the year and this was long before the famous email when the shit hit the fan.

Anyone who doubts this should look at the friendly handshake between the pair after the Man City game!!

For Malky to work under those circumstances could not have been easy and for us to gain the points we did during this period, with all that shit going on in the background , is a credit to him.

Yes he was inexperienced at this level and was learning, no difference to Ole and I still firmly believe that Malky would have kept us up, it might not have been pretty to watch but neither was the football we played when winning the championship!

Hilarious how Tonteg Bluebird seems to have the answer to everything and will defend Malky until he dies but can't answer Craig's question.

I am still shocked as to how Malky threads are still created a whole 2 months after he has been sacked. Appreciate his good work, move on and support Ole and the team because we all know he/they need it.

I don't think anyone hated Malky, but he had only won 1 match in his last 10, drawing 3 and losing 6. This is what people hated. LOSING without throwing a punch.

Hilarious how Tonteg Bluebird seems to have the answer to everything and will defend Malky until he dies but can't answer Craig's question.

I am still shocked as to how Malky threads are still created a whole 2 months after he has been sacked. Appreciate his good work, move on and support Ole and the team because we all know he/they need it.

I have answered Craig's question several times in my posts. How many more times do I have to say we played 7 of the top 9 teams at home under Malky's reign? If our home fixtures were reversed and our fixtures in the second half of the season were switched with our fixtures in the first half, I believe we would have picked up more wins at home against the Sunderland's, West Ham's etc and kept a few more clean sheets as the West Brom and Swansea home games demonstrated. This Saturday, I would have been confident of us winning with Malky in charge and Hull would have expected a tough game. But these days, I get the feeling Hull will be turning up thinking we are there for the taking.

Hilarious how Tonteg Bluebird seems to have the answer to everything and will defend Malky until he dies but can't answer Craig's question.

I am still shocked as to how Malky threads are still created a whole 2 months after he has been sacked. Appreciate his good work, move on and support Ole and the team because we all know he/they need it.

I have answered Craig's question several times in my posts. How many more times do I have to say we played 7 of the top 9 teams at home under Malky's reign? If our home fixtures were reversed and our fixtures in the second half of the season were switched with our fixtures in the first half, I believe we would have picked up more wins at home against the Sunderland's, West Ham's etc and kept a few more clean sheets as the West Brom and Swansea home games demonstrated. This Saturday, I would have been confident of us winning with Malky in charge and Hull would have expected a tough game. But these days, I get the feeling Hull will be turning up thinking we are there for the taking.

What part of we won 1 game in 10 under malkys last 10 games don't you understand.

The old organised and defensively hard to break down remark under MM. We were leaking in goals for fun and still not going for games or going for goals.

Under MM we leak goals and under Ole we leak goals, at least games under Ole I expect us to score and create a shed load of chances.

Also remembering we were 1-0 down in the FA Cup and Ole made 2 big chances with his most consistent performers out of a bunch to go and win the game.

I love the FA Cup and still enjoy being part of it which we always will be but under MM he threw 2 away. Macclesfield he could of easily picked a stronger team without going all out. Against West Brom he played a weak weak squad but we had a game v Palace in the cup but still we gave the tie to WBA despite coming back.

I think the attraction of Football we saw under MM was the worst part, he had players in his hands who could offer something and impact, using Mutch in a 5 man midfield where they were all lumped together and no-one being allowed to be played in front of the midfielders.

I totally agree with Craig. Not only in this topic but most answers from him shows a true fan who backs the club no matter what.
Respect for that Craig, we need more fans like you.

Back to topic. The Malky hating thing is overrated just like his defence.

Excuses like not winning because he got a e-mail shows how low some fans will go to get their points through. As i posted in another thread we were the second worst at scoring goals and we conceded most goals too so please move on.
Malky was great in championship, in PL he showed that he could not buy the right players or pick the right players.

I agree that Malky deserves credit for all he has done, fantastic job last year but he is gone now and we got OGS who i believe has done a good job so far considering the difficult time he came in and the short amount of time he had to learn the team to know and buy players.
He could have overspent and bought in tons of "stars" with high wages and a declining career. I think he bought smart and also allowed our current players to get a chance.

OGS has gotten Craig Noone in some serious form. Malky didn`t use him. THat is almost like a new signing.
OGS got rid of an expensive Odemwingie in a trade for a younger Jones who has the same scoring record.
OGS brought in Cala who looks good and was a La Liga regular.
OGS brought in Dæhli who looks like the most exciting Cardiff player i have seen in a long time.
OGS plays attacking football and have better contacts than Malky which we can benefit from. (example is the linking of Meulensteen as coach)

I dont think he has done as bad as people try to make it seem. He could picked a starting 11 as most people want and i can guarantee that if he followed Malky`s example we would not seen Craig Noone on the pitch.
Let the man test and fail in his search for a first team, if we go down atleast we have a solid foundation for next year with the players who work best in his system.

Everytime I ask this nobody answers.

How were we hard to beat under Malky???
When he left only Crystal palace had a poorer defensive record and only Fulham had a worse goalscoring record. We played the top teams at home so from a defensive point of view that was easier than facing them away.

Can someone please answer this total myth.

Did you watch Cardiff City in their home games before MM was sacked?

I totally agree with Craig. Not only in this topic but most answers from him shows a true fan who backs the club no matter what.
Respect for that Craig, we need more fans like you.

Back to topic. The Malky hating thing is overrated just like his defence.

Excuses like not winning because he got a e-mail shows how low some fans will go to get their points through. As i posted in another thread we were the second worst at scoring goals and we conceded most goals too so please move on.
Malky was great in championship, in PL he showed that he could not buy the right players or pick the right players.

I agree that Malky deserves credit for all he has done, fantastic job last year but he is gone now and we got OGS who i believe has done a good job so far considering the difficult time he came in and the short amount of time he had to learn the team to know and buy players.
He could have overspent and bought in tons of "stars" with high wages and a declining career. I think he bought smart and also allowed our current players to get a chance.

OGS has gotten Craig Noone in some serious form. Malky didn`t use him. THat is almost like a new signing.
OGS got rid of an expensive Odemwingie in a trade for a younger Jones who has the same scoring record.
OGS brought in Cala who looks good and was a La Liga regular.
OGS brought in Dæhli who looks like the most exciting Cardiff player i have seen in a long time.
OGS plays attacking football and have better contacts than Malky which we can benefit from. (example is the linking of Meulensteen as coach)

I dont think he has done as bad as people try to make it seem. He could picked a starting 11 as most people want and i can guarantee that if he followed Malky`s example we would not seen Craig Noone on the pitch.
Let the man test and fail in his search for a first team, if we go down atleast we have a solid foundation for next year with the players who work best in his system.

Spot on. The malky excuses are getting pathetic, email some fans are clueless has to be said.