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Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:32 pm

soulofthesea wrote:because your .keyboard warrior name caller nobody...........i am me.yes i would be wierd to a bloke with no spine or substance..//go and insult people you cant see.....


My little bit of paradise ;) can't wait till they get back this week, they don't like the winters to much
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Hope this cheered you up Soulie boy!!

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:33 pm

ELY BOY wrote:haha so you're basically saying that to be a Dictator you have to have killed thousands of people.

He is a Dictator, won't listen to reason, does what he wants without regard for people who care and know more than him, uses the media to his advantage, blocks any attempts to protest or speak out against him.

He is a dictator plain and simple.


no that's not what i said at all. a dictator is usually someone who flouts democratic principals and customs (usually using violence or fear) to become a ruler who runs by single decision not by council.

Dictator refers to the leader of a country. not the owner of a business. as much as i dislike tan he is within his rights to do with this club as he wishes as football clubs do not consult with their fans as to who buys their club...they never have and never will.

the reason i mention the countless deaths and attrocities is because that is the usual association with dictators (can you remember a dictator of a country that hasn't caused suffering?) is different to what tan is doing.

In short, if Cardiff City FC was a country then yes, Tan would be a dictator. But it isn't...so he isn't

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:42 pm

ELY BOY wrote:haha so you're basically saying that to be a Dictator you have to have killed thousands of people.

He is a Dictator, won't listen to reason, does what he wants without regard for people who care and know more than him, uses the media to his advantage, blocks any attempts to protest or speak out against him.

He is a dictator plain and simple.



im a dictator because i tell the company secretary what i want written in a letter :lol:

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:03 pm

ThomasC wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:because your .keyboard warrior name caller nobody...........i am me.yes i would be wierd to a bloke with no spine or substance..//go and insult people you cant see.....


My little bit of paradise ;) can't wait till they get back this week, they don't like the winters to much
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Hope this cheered you up Soulie boy!!


yes..ive never seen two people standing by a fence before.
says it all

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:13 pm

Military Junta wrote:
connersccfc wrote:Now i'm not pro Tan by any means. In an ideal world id like him to stay, turn us back to blue and act like any other owner would: working somewhere within the peramiters that the fans of the club are happy with (to varying degrees) but if that isn't to be then i don't want him within the club that i love.

With that being said the thing that really gets to me is when people describe him as a "DICTATOR" it really annoys me. It completely trivialises the unspeakable horrors that occured under countless dictators for the last 100-150 years and still happen to this day. Now i do understand where this mantle has come from but i still think its quite a stretch to compare him to people often responsible for the deaths of millions.

Call Tan what you like, call him crazy, call him a terrible owner, call im a terrible business man; but every time you go to call him a dictator just remember: You are not risking your life for your political/religious/cultural belifes, you are not hiding your family across boarders in fear of your life, you ARE a fan in a football stadium who doesnt like the billionaire who owns it. Perspective needed for some i feel


The actual meaning of the word 'Dictator' is 'A dictator is a ruler who does not rule through democratic means' which with the colour and badge change sums Tan up nicely :wave: :wave:


Which is complete bollocks. He said he wanted to change colour and badge. Fans revolted so he said I won't do it but the 100 million I was planning to invest I will no longer invest and then the fans (not all but definitely a majority) got him to change his plans back towards the rebrand.

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:20 pm

soulofthesea wrote:
yes..ive never seen two people standing by a fence before.
says it all


Would you like to see more of my house then? No problems, i'm very proud of it.
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I could go on, but I have to take into account other poster's viewing pleasure above yours :wave: I am no internet warrior. My name is Tom Cunningham & lots of friends could vouch for me (if any read this forum) bye bye :wave:

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:47 pm

ThomasC wrote:
soulofthesea wrote:
yes..ive never seen two people standing by a fence before.
says it all


Would you like to see more of my house then? No problems, i'm very proud of it.
Image
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I could go on, but I have to take into account other poster's viewing pleasure above yours :wave: I am no internet warrior. My name is Tom Cunningham & lots of friends could vouch for me (if any read this forum) bye bye :wave:


nice looking house...but its in equador ffs............very grown up putting the pics up..sort of confirms a lot

and yes..if your going to call anyone a c**t try doing it in person......otherwise keyboard warrior is exactly what you are..

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:55 pm

bluetones wrote:
nice looking house...but its in equador ffs............very grown up putting the pics up..sort of confirms a lot

and yes..if your going to call anyone a c**t try doing it in person......otherwise keyboard warrior is exactly what you are..



:sleepy2: I was bated into using a stronger term than bore-off and I simply obliged :lol: I am able to discuss topics with clarity & substance, don't hate for that. It looks bad upon yourself.

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:13 pm

ThomasC wrote:
bluetones wrote:
nice looking house...but its in equador ffs............very grown up putting the pics up..sort of confirms a lot

and yes..if your going to call anyone a c**t try doing it in person......otherwise keyboard warrior is exactly what you are..



:sleepy2: I was bated into using a stronger term than bore-off and I simply obliged :lol: I am able to discuss topics with clarity & substance, don't hate for that. It looks bad upon yourself.

Ah Thomas I have just realised what the C in your name stands for. Cheers.

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:16 pm

connersccfc wrote:Now i'm not pro Tan by any means. In an ideal world id like him to stay, turn us back to blue and act like any other owner would: working somewhere within the peramiters that the fans of the club are happy with (to varying degrees) but if that isn't to be then i don't want him within the club that i love.

With that being said the thing that really gets to me is when people describe him as a "DICTATOR" it really annoys me. It completely trivialises the unspeakable horrors that occured under countless dictators for the last 100-150 years and still happen to this day. Now i do understand where this mantle has come from but i still think its quite a stretch to compare him to people often responsible for the deaths of millions.

Call Tan what you like, call him crazy, call him a terrible owner, call im a terrible business man; but every time you go to call him a dictator just remember: You are not risking your life for your political/religious/cultural belifes, you are not hiding your family across boarders in fear of your life, you ARE a fan in a football stadium who doesnt like the billionaire who owns it. Perspective needed for some i feel

I think you've completely misread the situation :lol:

Re: DICTATOR!

Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:25 pm

Grumpyguts wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
bluetones wrote:
nice looking house...but its in equador ffs............very grown up putting the pics up..sort of confirms a lot

and yes..if your going to call anyone a c**t try doing it in person......otherwise keyboard warrior is exactly what you are..



:sleepy2: I was bated into using a stronger term than bore-off and I simply obliged :lol: I am able to discuss topics with clarity & substance, don't hate for that. It looks bad upon yourself.

Ah Thomas I have just realised what the C in your name stands for. Cheers.


I know it's true I let myself down today. I am embarrassed now. TC ain't comin out to play with the snot-nosed loosers. 100% postage about Cardiff from now & hereafter

Re: DICTATOR!

Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:59 am

Blue_Always wrote:
connersccfc wrote:Now i'm not pro Tan by any means. In an ideal world id like him to stay, turn us back to blue and act like any other owner would: working somewhere within the peramiters that the fans of the club are happy with (to varying degrees) but if that isn't to be then i don't want him within the club that i love.

With that being said the thing that really gets to me is when people describe him as a "DICTATOR" it really annoys me. It completely trivialises the unspeakable horrors that occured under countless dictators for the last 100-150 years and still happen to this day. Now i do understand where this mantle has come from but i still think its quite a stretch to compare him to people often responsible for the deaths of millions.

Call Tan what you like, call him crazy, call him a terrible owner, call im a terrible business man; but every time you go to call him a dictator just remember: You are not risking your life for your political/religious/cultural belifes, you are not hiding your family across boarders in fear of your life, you ARE a fan in a football stadium who doesnt like the billionaire who owns it. Perspective needed for some i feel

I think you've completely misread the situation :lol:


care to elaborate? cos as far as i can see its 1 of 2 things

you're being serious when you say it: you're an idiot and need to buy a dictionary

you dont reeeeally think he's a dictator: then you've resorted to name calling which weakens any legitimate argument against him.

is there a third option that im missing?

Re: DICTATOR!

Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:45 am

connersccfc wrote:

if people are likening a business owner to hitler or hussain then maybe its not me that needs to take things a little less seriously.

i just personally think its a pretty childish comparison and whilst it may give you a little giggle it takes validity away from anything else you have to say on the single matter that has affected our club most in my lifetime, which from having read your particular posts in the past are not exactly a million miles away from my own veiws.


In fairness though Connor, the thread was based upon you not agreeing with Tan being branded a Dictator. Why bring Hitler into this when he was a democratically elected leader? :happy1: Homework my good fella! :lol:

Re: DICTATOR!

Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:45 am

connersccfc wrote:

if people are likening a business owner to hitler or hussain then maybe its not me that needs to take things a little less seriously.

i just personally think its a pretty childish comparison and whilst it may give you a little giggle it takes validity away from anything else you have to say on the single matter that has affected our club most in my lifetime, which from having read your particular posts in the past are not exactly a million miles away from my own veiws.


In fairness though Connor, the thread was based upon you not agreeing with Tan being branded a Dictator. Why bring Hitler into this when he was a democratically elected leader? :happy1: Homework my good fella! :lol:

Re: DICTATOR!

Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:48 am

ThomasC wrote:
connersccfc wrote:

if people are likening a business owner to hitler or hussain then maybe its not me that needs to take things a little less seriously.

i just personally think its a pretty childish comparison and whilst it may give you a little giggle it takes validity away from anything else you have to say on the single matter that has affected our club most in my lifetime, which from having read your particular posts in the past are not exactly a million miles away from my own veiws.


In fairness though Connor, the thread was based upon you not agreeing with Tan being branded a Dictator. Why bring Hitler into this when he was a democratically elected leader? :happy1: Homework my good fella! :lol:


im not one to spout about my own personal life but i did a degree in 20th century european history. hitler was never democratically elected to the presidential post (yes as chairman but there was so many other issues there it still pretty much doesnt count).

don't mean to be rude but you should probably do your homework. if you did you'd know that hitlers consolidation of power was anything but democratic.....but im pretty sure you said you only wanted to talk football so we should probably just leave that there

Re: DICTATOR!

Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:53 am

connersccfc wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
connersccfc wrote:

if people are likening a business owner to hitler or hussain then maybe its not me that needs to take things a little less seriously.

i just personally think its a pretty childish comparison and whilst it may give you a little giggle it takes validity away from anything else you have to say on the single matter that has affected our club most in my lifetime, which from having read your particular posts in the past are not exactly a million miles away from my own veiws.


In fairness though Connor, the thread was based upon you not agreeing with Tan being branded a Dictator. Why bring Hitler into this when he was a democratically elected leader? :happy1: Homework my good fella! :lol:


im not one to spout about my own personal life but i did a degree in 20th century european history. hitler was never democratically elected to the presidential post (yes as chairman but there was so many other issues there it still pretty much doesnt count).

This is Cardiff City related, you said so yourself and I agreed with you when I thought that might not be the case. :) Yes, I am totally ashamed I stooped that low, I have no interest in bickering with other poster's, just accept the forum for what it is.

Didn't the German people vote for him? I was under the impression they did to be fair :laughing6: Maybe i'll watch an episode the rise of Hitler but its a little depressing

don't mean to be rude but you should probably do your homework. if you did you'd know that hitlers consolidation of power was anything but democratic.....but im pretty sure you said you only wanted to talk football so we should probably just leave that there

Re: DICTATOR!

Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:42 am

connersccfc wrote:
Blue_Always wrote:
connersccfc wrote:Now i'm not pro Tan by any means. In an ideal world id like him to stay, turn us back to blue and act like any other owner would: working somewhere within the peramiters that the fans of the club are happy with (to varying degrees) but if that isn't to be then i don't want him within the club that i love.

With that being said the thing that really gets to me is when people describe him as a "DICTATOR" it really annoys me. It completely trivialises the unspeakable horrors that occured under countless dictators for the last 100-150 years and still happen to this day. Now i do understand where this mantle has come from but i still think its quite a stretch to compare him to people often responsible for the deaths of millions.

Call Tan what you like, call him crazy, call him a terrible owner, call im a terrible business man; but every time you go to call him a dictator just remember: You are not risking your life for your political/religious/cultural belifes, you are not hiding your family across boarders in fear of your life, you ARE a fan in a football stadium who doesnt like the billionaire who owns it. Perspective needed for some i feel

I think you've completely misread the situation :lol:


care to elaborate? cos as far as i can see its 1 of 2 things

you're being serious when you say it: you're an idiot and need to buy a dictionary

you dont reeeeally think he's a dictator: then you've resorted to name calling which weakens any legitimate argument against him.

is there a third option that im missing?

Is this a football forum or the bleeding history channel?

Re: DICTATOR!

Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:51 am

What a very odd thread

Re: DICTATOR!

Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:56 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:What a very odd thread


its turned in to a very odd thread i'll give you that. but i stand by my original point. calling tan a dictator is pointless, childish and inaccurate...whatever your feelings on tan or the rebrand are