Tan is going nowhere if we stay up or go down

As I said you don't know me, but other well known forum members know about this but as they have other agendas to put out there they will keep quiet about this. All I will say Tan is here for a while, ask a west ham fan he might shed some light on this for you, i think he knows

So if Daya knows, you know, more posters know - then its hardly a secret is it.

Like I said, if you knew - then you would say. There is no reason not to. Its ludicrous. Simple as that.

Tan has already said himself that he's not going to throw money at the club.

As I said you don't know me, but other well known forum members know about this but as they have other agendas to put out there they will keep quiet about this. All I will say Tan is here for a while, ask a west ham fan he might shed some light on this for you, i think he knows

So if Daya knows, you know, more posters know - then its hardly a secret is it.

Like I said, if you knew - then you would say. There is no reason not to. Its ludicrous. Simple as that.

Where have I said it's a secret

Tan has already said himself that he's not going to throw money at the club.

Your are spot on Barry he has said that, but we all know what he says and what he does are two different things

Tan has already said himself that he's not going to throw money at the club.

he also said he would not spend 1penny in january..........not change the colour..people change their minds..and sometimes say one thing meaning another.........ffs

Where have I said it's a secret

Ah excellent.

Go on then, you have made the thread to discuss it.... Indulge us.

Tan has already said himself that he's not going to throw money at the club.

he also said he would not spend 1penny in january..........not change the colour..people change their minds..and sometimes say one thing meaning another.........ffs

No, he said he wouldn't give Malky a penny to spend in January. It was obvious that a new manager would have money to spend.

He only changed his mind on the colour when some fans convinced him to stay for the in vestment, sadly.

Where have I said it's a secret

Ah excellent.

Go on then, you have made the thread to discuss it.... Indulge us.

Starting to get worried about you for a while. you must have gone nearly 15 minutes without posting anything.

Starting to get worried about you for a while. you must have gone nearly 15 minutes without posting anything.

Cool.

Okay back to the thread. Indulge us in this great plan then Arrow

Far from it do you honesty think Tan will walk away after all the money he has put in, his reputation as a business man, just think about it there is a lot more on the line for Tan than just money. Why would he have meetings with Fergie a number of times over the last few months and that is after ole become our manager

Absolutely do, in fact I'm almost certain he would.

It is ALL about the money. So far everything he has put in has been secured. He has reached his limit of investment now as the clubs assets cannot cover over £100m.

Im a very successful businessman myself on a smaller scale. However the principles are exactly the same.

Relegation will give Tan an obvious out, if he doesnt take it then I would be absolutely amazed. The alternative makes no sense what so ever.

you dont mention liquidation.........but the obvious out can only really mean liquidation of assets ?

you dont mention liquidation.........but the obvious out can only really mean liquidation of assets ?

Completely different things. Liquidation and selling assets are not the same thing.

How else is he going to get his money back? Fairy dust?

Its business, its not difficult folks. Think about it.

Where have I said it's a secret

Ah excellent.

Go on then, you have made the thread to discuss it.... Indulge us.

I have told you what I have been told, lets see how the season pans out and when the things I have talked about start to happen then and only then will I say who told me, come on you being the Big business man should know how theses things work

Tan has already said himself that he's not going to throw money at the club.

he also said he would not spend 1penny in january..........not change the colour..people change their minds..and sometimes say one thing meaning another.........ffs

No, he said he wouldn't give Malky a penny to spend in January. It was obvious that a new manager would have money to spend.

He only changed his mind on the colour when some fans convinced him to stay for the in vestment, sadly.

i knew youd say that because you can never stop yourself........but no he didnt mention malky.........yes it was obvious from the statement that a new manager was on his way, lol?.........but that is not what he said.........yyou just love not being wrong and in so doing make a complete and utter chimp of yourself........i bet your unemployable cant ever learn,listen,or be corrected

I have told you what I have been told, lets see how the season pans out and when the things I have talked about start to happen then and only then will I say who told me, come on you being the Big business man should know how theses things work

Im not asking you WHO told you. Not interested in that.

Im asking you what you are suggesting "the plan" is. YOU created the thread remember, so lets discuss it. What have you been told?

I have already told you what is the good business move. However you seem to disagree, im just waiting for you to tell me the alternative..... S0 far, in response, all you have said is "other people know"

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i knew youd say that because you can never stop yourself........but no he didnt mention malky.........yes it was obvious from the statement that a new manager was on his way, lol?.........but that is not what he said.........yyou just love not being wrong and in so doing make a complete and utter chimp of yourself........i bet your unemployable cant ever learn,listen,or be corrected

Malky was the manager at the time the comment was made, so I think it was pretty obvious that he meant Malky, when he said the manager would get no funds in January.

i knew youd say that because you can never stop yourself........but no he didnt mention malky.........yes it was obvious from the statement that a new manager was on his way, lol?.........but that is not what he said.........yyou just love not being wrong and in so doing make a complete and utter chimp of yourself........i bet your unemployable cant ever learn,listen,or be corrected

Chuckles is correct.

The statement was in response to Malky saying he needs money on January.

i knew youd say that because you can never stop yourself........but no he didnt mention malky.........yes it was obvious from the statement that a new manager was on his way, lol?.........but that is not what he said.........yyou just love not being wrong and in so doing make a complete and utter chimp of yourself........i bet your unemployable cant ever learn,listen,or be corrected

Malky was the manager at the time the comment was made, so I think it was pretty obvious that he meant Malky, when he said the manager would get no funds in January.

look you write a post with a Tan quote...............people question what you say by giving examples of other quotes where what happened was not what he had said..............end.......END...........but no..you come back on saying this was obvious he didnt mean this quote or that quote only the quotes that suit your stance.........its crap........you are obviously not a window licker but you do need to stop read and think sometimes..not just get a JCB out to dig a bigger hole to stand in.

Ok I've waited 2 pages for the grand master plan and it seems no closer to being said so on that note bed is calling.

i knew youd say that because you can never stop yourself........but no he didnt mention malky.........yes it was obvious from the statement that a new manager was on his way, lol?.........but that is not what he said.........yyou just love not being wrong and in so doing make a complete and utter chimp of yourself........i bet your unemployable cant ever learn,listen,or be corrected

Chuckles is correct.

The statement was in response to Malky saying he needs money on January.

lol...oh Donald Trump enters the fray............he did not mention Malky..look it up.
some thought he meant no money
others read more into it and chucked a bundle of cash on MM being sacked.
but it was individual interpretations. NOT that Tan had mentioned Malky
the email was sent 2 days later..was leaked 3 days after that.

look you write a post with a Tan quote...............people question what you say by giving examples of other quotes where what happened was not what he had said..............end.......END...........but no..you come back on saying this was obvious he didnt mean this quote or that quote only the quotes that suit your stance.........its crap........you are obviously not a window licker but you do need to stop read and think sometimes..not just get a JCB out to dig a bigger hole to stand in.

Malky Mackay was manager of Cardiff City when the statement was made about the manager not getting a transfer budget in January.

It's therefore safe to assume, that Tan was aiming that statement at Mackay, seeing as he was the only manager CCFC had at the time.

The statement was even aimed at Mackay, after Mackay came out and said he wanted three players.



PS - I've not written any Tan quotes.

Why on earth are people listening to a man who lied about being a Cardiff fan for months on end on a football message board as though he 'knows' anything?

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/18445138

Tan was 75million in the hole before he started the rebrand, he could have asset stripped us then if he wanted his money back, but let's face it he wasn't going to get anything like that back then, never mind now.

It's likely OGS was given some assurances about the future that he liked, otherwise he wouldn't have come, he didn't go to Blackburn because of their owners. The club is in a better position financially than it has been (note: this doesn't make it a good position, just that income streams are better than they have been (eg parachute payments)). Tan and Lim have already started blaming this season on Malky not exactly the sounds they'd be making if they were about to ship out. They probably wouldn't be adding a tier to the stadium either

My feeling is that Tan is a driven man who wants the club to succeed and will continue in the same vein he has thus far. Hell the last time Cardiff failed to achieve something he rebranded the club. That's probably the biggest (and most haunting) clue that of what's to come.

Do I know any of this? f**k no, but it's worth the same amount as a man who lied about being a Cardiff fan for months on end who thinks now is the time VT will asset strip because.. Business!

Why on earth are people listening to a man who lied about being a Cardiff fan for months on end on a football message board as though he 'knows' anything?

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/18445138

Tan was 75million in the hole before he started the rebrand, he could have asset stripped us then if he wanted his money back, but let's face it he wasn't going to get anything like that back then, never mind now.

It's likely OGS was given some assurances about the future that he liked, otherwise he wouldn't have come, he didn't go to Blackburn because of their owners. The club is in a better position financially than it has been (note: this doesn't make it a good position, just that income streams are better than they have been (eg parachute payments)). Tan and Lim have already started blaming this season on Malky not exactly the sounds they'd be making if they were about to ship out. They probably wouldn't be adding a tier to the stadium either

My feeling is that Tan is a driven man who wants the club to succeed and will continue in the same vein he has thus far. Hell the last time Cardiff failed to achieve something he rebranded the club. That's probably the biggest (and most haunting) clue that of what's to come.

Do I know any of this? f**k no, but it's worth the same amount as a man who lied about being a Cardiff fan for months on end who thinks now is the time VT will asset strip because.. Business!

Jesus

In the championship you didnt have £40m worth of playing assets, you didnt have £20m of parachute payments and didnt have a share value of £20m... What assets did you have to strip?!

Of all the ridiculous ripostes on here, that one takes the absolute biscuit

As for "lying" about being a cardiff fan... I was only allowed an opinion if it came from a "Cardiff fan", i tried to post as a jack and was banned - hence canton magic was born

look you write a post with a Tan quote...............people question what you say by giving examples of other quotes where what happened was not what he had said..............end.......END...........but no..you come back on saying this was obvious he didnt mean this quote or that quote only the quotes that suit your stance.........its crap........you are obviously not a window licker but you do need to stop read and think sometimes..not just get a JCB out to dig a bigger hole to stand in.

Malky Mackay was manager of Cardiff City when the statement was made about the manager not getting a transfer budget in January.

It's therefore safe to assume, that Tan was aiming that statement at Mackay, seeing as he was the only manager CCFC had at the time.

The statement was even aimed at Mackay, after Mackay came out and said he wanted three players.



PS - I've not written any Tan quotes.

bigger JCB required............your unemployed arnt you?.

So who was his statement aimed at then?

Ok I've waited 2 pages for the grand master plan and it seems no closer to being said so on that note bed is calling.

Didn't the op say in their first post maybe not in detail but it does say about it

£40million of playing assets
Jesus I retract my statement you must be a Cardiff fan if you think the squads worth that much and buyers could actually be found. Relegated clubs don't exactly have the strong hand in negotiation with FFP, wages and players actively wanting to leave. Julio Cesar took how long to get a move? and it was a loan, same for Taarabt, Remy and Park

Even if that was the case you just labeled far less than Tans investment by a long, long shot if he asset striped. Which despite you wanting proof from everyone else you have no proof he would do. At least I had the decency to state my opinion is worth no more than yours. No one actually knows what Tan will do.

Also many Jacks have come here openly as Jacks and are fine. To come here and be a liar, then justify being a liar is some twisted logic on your behalf. Enjoy the thread, I'm sure someone else will reply to you but you seldom add anything after an initial opinion. So I'm not going to bother, chow

£40million of playing assets
Jesus I retract my statement you must be a Cardiff fan if you think the squads worth that much and buyers could actually be found. Relegated clubs don't exactly have the strong hand in negotiation with FFP, wages and players actively wanting to leave. Julio Cesar took how long to get a move? and it was a loan, same for Taarabt, Remy and Park

Even if that was the case you just labeled far less than Tans investment by a long, long shot if he asset striped. Which despite you wanting proof from everyone else you have no proof he would do. At least I had the decency to state my opinion is worth no more than yours. No one actually knows what Tan will do.

Also many Jacks have come here openly as Jacks and are fine. To come here and be a liar, then justify being a liar is some twisted logic on your behalf. Enjoy the thread, I'm sure someone else will reply to you but you seldom add anything after an initial opinion. So I'm not going to bother, chow

Where has he said we had £40 million of playing assets last season?

So who was his statement aimed at then?

Malky said he wanted to bring players in at xmas, and Tan said he wouldn't get a penny, you are right Baz

So who was his statement aimed at then?

you..........was aimed purely at you..........seems all his statements are..then YOU decide after the event what he meant....

JCB driver required to keep digging Barrys hole while he sleeps

you..........was aimed purely at you..........seems all his statements are..then YOU decide after the event what he meant....

driver required to keep digging Barrys hole while he sleeps

Can't answer then? Tan's statement clearly said the manager wouldn't get a penny to spend in January, at the time of the statement, the manager was Malcolm Mackay.

Therefore, it is pretty safe to assume that the statement was aimed at him. If it wasn't, who was it aimed at? I'm all ears.

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