Under OGS, we are now a soft touch

We have been a soft touch all season. Ole will rebuild in the summer, ill judge him next season. After 3 transfer windows.

You have a short memory. We were no soft touch when we came from behind twice to beat Man City

That was one game

Yes but Craig said we were a soft touch all season. Please keep up.

We have been a soft touch all season. Ole will rebuild in the summer, ill judge him next season. After 3 transfer windows.

You have a short memory. We were no soft touch when we came from behind twice to beat Man City

That was one game

Yes but Craig said we were a soft touch all season. Please keep up.

Maybe I just read your post about man city "onee game" so keep up yourself

We have been a soft touch all season. Ole will rebuild in the summer, ill judge him next season. After 3 transfer windows.

You have a short memory. We were no soft touch when we came from behind twice to beat Man City

That was one game

Yes but Craig said we were a soft touch all season. Please keep up.

Maybe I just read your post about man city "onee game" so keep up yourself

It amazes me how people can say we're better under Ole.

We have been a soft touch all season. Ole will rebuild in the summer, ill judge him next season. After 3 transfer windows.

You have a short memory. We were no soft touch when we came from behind twice to beat Man City

That was one game

Yes but Craig said we were a soft touch all season. Please keep up.

Maybe I just read your post about man city "onee game" so keep up yourself

Oh dear is that is

Agree. We are a soft touch. Malky seemed to have a plan. OGS has good intentions. We know where they lead. The Norwegian League is like god Scottish League 2. OGS almost untried.

Malky did not play attractive football agreed but he could put a plan in place to grab us the odd point when it was needed. Ole tries to play attractive attacking football but does not have the class in the squad to pull it off. Unfortunately whilst Ole is cutting his teeth in the Premiership we will continue to get battered till the end of the season.

Just watched the highlights. I forgot about McClean's shot at the end after we threw our 2 centre backs forward and despite being frustrating, Zaha still contributed a lot more than I gave him credit for in my post. However, Zaha turning his back for Watson's free kick was inexcusable. If Zaha kept face on, I believe he would have blocked Watson's shot. To allow the ball to get tapped to Watson, and for Watson to then be allowed the time to get a free strike at goal is pathetic. KTC was at fault for the first goal, but also Taylor. Looking at the highlights, you can see Taylor turned to look at McCann twice, but then got sucked in to the ball, leaving McCann unmarked for the tap in. It was just bad defending all round which is getting a regular, worrying occurrence under Ole. We seem to switch off, not want it enough and get punished.

We have been a soft touch all season. Ole will rebuild in the summer, ill judge him next season. After 3 transfer windows.

You have a short memory. We were no soft touch when we came from behind twice to beat Man City

You must have a short memory as well seen as we came back once to win against City.

Just watched the highlights. I forgot about McClean's shot at the end after we threw our 2 centre backs forward and despite being frustrating, Zaha still contributed a lot more than I gave him credit for in my post. However, Zaha turning his back for Watson's free kick was inexcusable. If Zaha kept face on, I believe he would have blocked Watson's shot. To allow the ball to get tapped to Watson, and for Watson to then be allowed the time to get a free strike at goal is pathetic. KTC was at fault for the first goal, but also Taylor. Looking at the highlights, you can see Taylor turned to look at McCann twice, but then got sucked in to the ball, leaving McCann unmarked for the tap in. It was just bad defending all round which is getting a regular, worrying occurrence under Ole. We seem to switch off, not want it enough and get punished.

yes because we were defensively superb under Malky werent we

Just watched the highlights. I forgot about McClean's shot at the end after we threw our 2 centre backs forward and despite being frustrating, Zaha still contributed a lot more than I gave him credit for in my post. However, Zaha turning his back for Watson's free kick was inexcusable. If Zaha kept face on, I believe he would have blocked Watson's shot. To allow the ball to get tapped to Watson, and for Watson to then be allowed the time to get a free strike at goal is pathetic. KTC was at fault for the first goal, but also Taylor. Looking at the highlights, you can see Taylor turned to look at McCann twice, but then got sucked in to the ball, leaving McCann unmarked for the tap in. It was just bad defending all round which is getting a regular, worrying occurrence under Ole. We seem to switch off, not want it enough and get punished.

yes because we were defensively superb under Malky werent we

A bizarre post Paul. Our defensive record got us promoted. The only 2 teams we played at home currently in the bottom half, Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0, keeping clean sheets in both games. We had a few iffy performances away, but this is our first season in the Premiership, so of course we were going to lose the majority of our away games. I think some of our fans are deluded to be honest.

Whether you like it or not, the Swansea and West Brom home games shows Malky would have been more than capable of getting us the results needed to stay in this division. Nevermind, we now have Ole who is "much better than Malky" according to Tan, so it must be true. We only conceded 2 goals at home to Wigan who have only scored 12 goals in their 15 away league games this season. We are clearly doing much better under Ole aren't we.

Just watched the highlights. I forgot about McClean's shot at the end after we threw our 2 centre backs forward and despite being frustrating, Zaha still contributed a lot more than I gave him credit for in my post. However, Zaha turning his back for Watson's free kick was inexcusable. If Zaha kept face on, I believe he would have blocked Watson's shot. To allow the ball to get tapped to Watson, and for Watson to then be allowed the time to get a free strike at goal is pathetic. KTC was at fault for the first goal, but also Taylor. Looking at the highlights, you can see Taylor turned to look at McCann twice, but then got sucked in to the ball, leaving McCann unmarked for the tap in. It was just bad defending all round which is getting a regular, worrying occurrence under Ole. We seem to switch off, not want it enough and get punished.

yes because we were defensively superb under Malky werent we

A bizarre post Paul. Our defensive record got us promoted. The only 2 teams we played at home currently in the bottom half, Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0, keeping clean sheets in both games. We had a few iffy performances away, but this is our first season in the Premiership, so of course we were going to lose the majority of our away games. I think some of our fans are deluded to be honest.

Whether you like it or not, the Swansea and West Brom home games shows Malky would have been more than capable of getting us the results needed to stay in this division. Nevermind, we now have Ole who is "much better than Malky" according to Tan, so it must be true. We only conceded 2 goals at home to Wigan who have only scored 12 goals in their 15 away league games this season. We are clearly doing much better under Ole aren't we.

Didn't Wigan bt Palace in the last round and they are higher up in the league than us, these so called giant killings happen every year

We have been a soft touch all season. Ole will rebuild in the summer, ill judge him next season. After 3 transfer windows.

You have a short memory. We were no soft touch when we came from behind twice to beat Man City

Sir, I put it to you that you have a short memory if you think we came from behind TWICE to beat Man City

Just watched the highlights. I forgot about McClean's shot at the end after we threw our 2 centre backs forward and despite being frustrating, Zaha still contributed a lot more than I gave him credit for in my post. However, Zaha turning his back for Watson's free kick was inexcusable. If Zaha kept face on, I believe he would have blocked Watson's shot. To allow the ball to get tapped to Watson, and for Watson to then be allowed the time to get a free strike at goal is pathetic. KTC was at fault for the first goal, but also Taylor. Looking at the highlights, you can see Taylor turned to look at McCann twice, but then got sucked in to the ball, leaving McCann unmarked for the tap in. It was just bad defending all round which is getting a regular, worrying occurrence under Ole. We seem to switch off, not want it enough and get punished.

yes because we were defensively superb under Malky werent we

A bizarre post Paul. Our defensive record got us promoted. The only 2 teams we played at home currently in the bottom half, Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0, keeping clean sheets in both games. We had a few iffy performances away, but this is our first season in the Premiership, so of course we were going to lose the majority of our away games. I think some of our fans are deluded to be honest.

Whether you like it or not, the Swansea and West Brom home games shows Malky would have been more than capable of getting us the results needed to stay in this division. Nevermind, we now have Ole who is "much better than Malky" according to Tan, so it must be true. We only conceded 2 goals at home to Wigan who have only scored 12 goals in their 15 away league games this season. We are clearly doing much better under Ole aren't we.

Didn't Wigan bt Palace in the last round and they are higher up in the league than us, these so called giant killings happen every year

Wigan were home when they beat Palace in the last round. If we had lost away to Wigan, I probably wouldn't have done this post. But we were the home team and losing to an average Championship team at home isn't acceptable.

Just watched the highlights. I forgot about McClean's shot at the end after we threw our 2 centre backs forward and despite being frustrating, Zaha still contributed a lot more than I gave him credit for in my post. However, Zaha turning his back for Watson's free kick was inexcusable. If Zaha kept face on, I believe he would have blocked Watson's shot. To allow the ball to get tapped to Watson, and for Watson to then be allowed the time to get a free strike at goal is pathetic. KTC was at fault for the first goal, but also Taylor. Looking at the highlights, you can see Taylor turned to look at McCann twice, but then got sucked in to the ball, leaving McCann unmarked for the tap in. It was just bad defending all round which is getting a regular, worrying occurrence under Ole. We seem to switch off, not want it enough and get punished.

yes because we were defensively superb under Malky werent we

A bizarre post Paul. Our defensive record got us promoted. The only 2 teams we played at home currently in the bottom half, Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0, keeping clean sheets in both games. We had a few iffy performances away, but this is our first season in the Premiership, so of course we were going to lose the majority of our away games. I think some of our fans are deluded to be honest.

Whether you like it or not, the Swansea and West Brom home games shows Malky would have been more than capable of getting us the results needed to stay in this division. Nevermind, we now have Ole who is "much better than Malky" according to Tan, so it must be true. We only conceded 2 goals at home to Wigan who have only scored 12 goals in their 15 away league games this season. We are clearly doing much better under Ole aren't we.

Didn't Wigan bt Palace in the last round and they are higher up in the league than us, these so called giant killings happen every year

Wigan were home when they beat Palace in the last round. If we had lost away to Wigan, I probably wouldn't have done this post. But we were the home team and losing to an average Championship team at home isn't acceptable.

it is acceptable because its the cup ffs, these things happen!


who knocked us out last season btw? when your god was in charge of the team?

Just watched the highlights. I forgot about McClean's shot at the end after we threw our 2 centre backs forward and despite being frustrating, Zaha still contributed a lot more than I gave him credit for in my post. However, Zaha turning his back for Watson's free kick was inexcusable. If Zaha kept face on, I believe he would have blocked Watson's shot. To allow the ball to get tapped to Watson, and for Watson to then be allowed the time to get a free strike at goal is pathetic. KTC was at fault for the first goal, but also Taylor. Looking at the highlights, you can see Taylor turned to look at McCann twice, but then got sucked in to the ball, leaving McCann unmarked for the tap in. It was just bad defending all round which is getting a regular, worrying occurrence under Ole. We seem to switch off, not want it enough and get punished.

yes because we were defensively superb under Malky werent we

A bizarre post Paul. Our defensive record got us promoted. The only 2 teams we played at home currently in the bottom half, Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0, keeping clean sheets in both games. We had a few iffy performances away, but this is our first season in the Premiership, so of course we were going to lose the majority of our away games. I think some of our fans are deluded to be honest.

Whether you like it or not, the Swansea and West Brom home games shows Malky would have been more than capable of getting us the results needed to stay in this division. Nevermind, we now have Ole who is "much better than Malky" according to Tan, so it must be true. We only conceded 2 goals at home to Wigan who have only scored 12 goals in their 15 away league games this season. We are clearly doing much better under Ole aren't we.

Didn't Wigan bt Palace in the last round and they are higher up in the league than us, these so called giant killings happen every year

Wigan were home when they beat Palace in the last round. If we had lost away to Wigan, I probably wouldn't have done this post. But we were the home team and losing to an average Championship team at home isn't acceptable.

Strange results happen in football home and away, best thing to do is to look forward to the Hull game or are you going to be doom and gloom about that aswell, Wigan game has gone it cant be changed the players are looking to the next game to improve as should we all

Just watched the highlights. I forgot about McClean's shot at the end after we threw our 2 centre backs forward and despite being frustrating, Zaha still contributed a lot more than I gave him credit for in my post. However, Zaha turning his back for Watson's free kick was inexcusable. If Zaha kept face on, I believe he would have blocked Watson's shot. To allow the ball to get tapped to Watson, and for Watson to then be allowed the time to get a free strike at goal is pathetic. KTC was at fault for the first goal, but also Taylor. Looking at the highlights, you can see Taylor turned to look at McCann twice, but then got sucked in to the ball, leaving McCann unmarked for the tap in. It was just bad defending all round which is getting a regular, worrying occurrence under Ole. We seem to switch off, not want it enough and get punished.

yes because we were defensively superb under Malky werent we

A bizarre post Paul. Our defensive record got us promoted. The only 2 teams we played at home currently in the bottom half, Swansea and West Brom, we won 1-0, keeping clean sheets in both games. We had a few iffy performances away, but this is our first season in the Premiership, so of course we were going to lose the majority of our away games. I think some of our fans are deluded to be honest.

Whether you like it or not, the Swansea and West Brom home games shows Malky would have been more than capable of getting us the results needed to stay in this division. Nevermind, we now have Ole who is "much better than Malky" according to Tan, so it must be true. We only conceded 2 goals at home to Wigan who have only scored 12 goals in their 15 away league games this season. We are clearly doing much better under Ole aren't we.

Didn't Wigan bt Palace in the last round and they are higher up in the league than us, these so called giant killings happen every year

Wigan were home when they beat Palace in the last round. If we had lost away to Wigan, I probably wouldn't have done this post. But we were the home team and losing to an average Championship team at home isn't acceptable.

Strange results happen in football home and away, best thing to do is to look forward to the Hull game or are you going to be doom and gloom about that aswell, Wigan game has gone it cant be changed the players are looking to the next game to improve as should we all

I did my post Saturday evening giving my thoughts on the Wigan game and people are still contributing to this thread. But yes, I am now looking ahead to the Hull game. We need to get at them and score an early goal. Bruce has got Hull to where they are because he makes his team organised, well drilled and difficult to break down, ensuring they are always in the game and capable of pinching a result (like Malky really). I fear Bruce will be too experienced and organised for Ole, the longer the game goes on at 0-0, the more worried I will be. If Hull take the lead, they will be extremely difficult to break down. I think coming out all guns blazing to get an early goal is our only hope, as this will throw Bruce's game plan out the window. Bruce will be quite happy to make his Hull side spoil it and get a 0-0 draw, that's for sure.

Nah,keep the faith boys.Under malky I had to stick pins in my eyes to stay awake.

Ye, beating Man City, Swansea, Fulham, drawing to Man United, drawing with Everton, beating West Brom and almost drawing with Spurs was awful.

Wigan had 4 attacks all game and scored twice. They had a shot across goal early on that just missed the far corner, their 2 goals, and a back post cross in the second half which was hooked back and Marshall clawed it out. I can't remember Wigan having any other attacks. We were by far the better team and played good football, but there was no cutting edge. Berget looked way out of his depth today and I was pleased Noone came on for him, but you have to wonder what's going on when we turn down a 1.5 million bid for Joe Mason, but never use him, or allow Maynard to go out on loan. I think even someone like Rudy would have scored today if he was playing.

Zaha was frustrating, he always overdoes it. After the Norwich game I was really excited by him, but his decision making and end product was abysmal today. Daehli had a superb game, what a talented footballer, he was the only player who looked like opening them up apart from Noone and Zaha (when he didn't over complicate things). I was also very impressed with Cala, he was solid enough defensively and looks a very good footballer. A number of times he carried the ball out to turn defence into attack.

But overall, today was very frustrating. We dominated, but the ball wouldn't drop for us. Unfortunately, we will always be chasing games under OGS, because we are now a soft touch. Today showed we have some good footballers, but we are no longer the organised unit we were under Malky. We are way more open and vulnerable now. Wigan had only scored 12 goals in their 15 away games in the league this season, yet they still managed to score twice against us. I don't think that would have happened under Malky and worryingly, we no longer look the organised unit with the guts and passion capable of grinding out the results required to avoid relegation.

Yesterday jus summed up what I said last week, especially the part I've highlighted in bold! We are down.

Wigan had 4 attacks all game and scored twice. They had a shot across goal early on that just missed the far corner, their 2 goals, and a back post cross in the second half which was hooked back and Marshall clawed it out. I can't remember Wigan having any other attacks. We were by far the better team and played good football, but there was no cutting edge. Berget looked way out of his depth today and I was pleased Noone came on for him, but you have to wonder what's going on when we turn down a 1.5 million bid for Joe Mason, but never use him, or allow Maynard to go out on loan. I think even someone like Rudy would have scored today if he was playing.

Zaha was frustrating, he always overdoes it. After the Norwich game I was really excited by him, but his decision making and end product was abysmal today. Daehli had a superb game, what a talented footballer, he was the only player who looked like opening them up apart from Noone and Zaha (when he didn't over complicate things). I was also very impressed with Cala, he was solid enough defensively and looks a very good footballer. A number of times he carried the ball out to turn defence into attack.

But overall, today was very frustrating. We dominated, but the ball wouldn't drop for us. Unfortunately, we will always be chasing games under OGS, because we are now a soft touch. Today showed we have some good footballers, but we are no longer the organised unit we were under Malky. We are way more open and vulnerable now. Wigan had only scored 12 goals in their 15 away games in the league this season, yet they still managed to score twice against us. I don't think that would have happened under Malky and worryingly, we no longer look the organised unit with the guts and passion capable of grinding out the results required to avoid relegation.

Yesterday jus summed up what I said last week, especially the part I've highlighted in bold! We are down.

Sadly, your virtually spot on.

Wigan had 4 attacks all game and scored twice. They had a shot across goal early on that just missed the far corner, their 2 goals, and a back post cross in the second half which was hooked back and Marshall clawed it out. I can't remember Wigan having any other attacks. We were by far the better team and played good football, but there was no cutting edge. Berget looked way out of his depth today and I was pleased Noone came on for him, but you have to wonder what's going on when we turn down a 1.5 million bid for Joe Mason, but never use him, or allow Maynard to go out on loan. I think even someone like Rudy would have scored today if he was playing.

Zaha was frustrating, he always overdoes it. After the Norwich game I was really excited by him, but his decision making and end product was abysmal today. Daehli had a superb game, what a talented footballer, he was the only player who looked like opening them up apart from Noone and Zaha (when he didn't over complicate things). I was also very impressed with Cala, he was solid enough defensively and looks a very good footballer. A number of times he carried the ball out to turn defence into attack.

But overall, today was very frustrating. We dominated, but the ball wouldn't drop for us. Unfortunately, we will always be chasing games under OGS, because we are now a soft touch. Today showed we have some good footballers, but we are no longer the organised unit we were under Malky. We are way more open and vulnerable now. Wigan had only scored 12 goals in their 15 away games in the league this season, yet they still managed to score twice against us. I don't think that would have happened under Malky and worryingly, we no longer look the organised unit with the guts and passion capable of grinding out the results required to avoid relegation.

Yesterday just summed up what I said last week, especially the part I've highlighted in bold! We are down.

Sadly, your virtually spot on.

I was really hopeful we were starting to turn it around, but conceding 3 against a patched up West Brom team and another 3 today has sealed our fate. That's 12 goals conceded in 3 games. Palace had only scored 6 away goals all season, but they still managed to score 3 against us didn't they! You would never believe we won the league by 8 points last season when Hull beat us 4-0 and Palace beat us 3-0 today. 100 years of heritage thrown down the toilet for this. I feel very low and miserable at the moment. If we go down at least go down fighting. But the fight just isn't there and we are a disorganised mess.