' ALL MALKY MACKAYS TRANSFERS AT CARDIFF CITY '

and had he kept us up?

another year of crap park the bus non attacking football...

didnt anyone watch any games..........and think,im sure we could beat these, or f**k i wish he would be more attacking......was dour..

Lets see the difference in Bruce and Malky as an example of why we wont stay up this year.

Medel: 11,4 Huddlestone: 5,1
Cornelius: 7,6 Long: 7,4
Brayford: 1,5 Figueroa: Free
Catherine: 2,2 Davies: 2,3
Odemwingie: 2,5 Elmohamady: 1,5

Cardiff: 25,2mill Hull: 16,3

Malky never knew what was needed to stay up in the PL. He didn`t do his homework, therefore we get relegated this year.

I dont know where all this manlove for Malky comes from, he was taking us down. Only the blindest of fans still believe he would have kept us up. We scored the least amount of goals and had the second highest conceded.

And i dont think that he would been trusted with any money during the january window when we see what others bought for this season compared to us.

Lets see the difference in Bruce and Malky as an example of why we wont stay up this year.

Medel: 11,4 Huddlestone: 5,1
Cornelius: 7,6 Long: 7,4
Brayford: 1,5 Figueroa: Free
Catherine: 2,2 Davies: 2,3
Odemwingie: 2,5 Elmohamady: 1,5

Cardiff: 25,2mill Hull: 16,3

Malky never knew what was needed to stay up in the PL. He didn`t do his homework, therefore we get relegated this year.

I dont know where all this manlove for Malky comes from, he was taking us down. Only the blindest of fans still believe he would have kept us up. We scored the least amount of goals and had the second highest conceded.

And i dont think that he would been trusted with any money during the january window when we see what others bought for this season compared to us.

You are right that Bruce was very astute in the TM but not everyone is Steve Bruce, he's been sacked from numerous clubs and learnt from that experience. Steve Bruce is now a very experienced manager and wise in TM with good connections, and Hull Tigers are overachieving because of it. Doesn't mean to say they still won't get relegated though.

Vince in all his wisdom believes in giving inexperienced managers the transfer kitty then criticize them when they've spent his dough. #clownlogic

Malky Malkay became Cardiff City Manager in the 2011/12 season.

2011/12 Season Carling Cup Finalists drawing with Liverpool at Wembley 2-2 and losing on penalties.
2011/12 Season Play off Semi finalists losing to the eventual winners West Ham.

2012/13 Season Runaway Champions of the Championship, Our first Major Title since 1927 and first manager to take us up to the Premier League in 51 years even with all the politics going on behind the scenes regarding our Identity.

2013/14 Season Premier League, Never in a relegation place and things only started to go down hill when Malky's boss started publicly slating him and going in the dressing room and also telling our manager how to manage.


' MALKY MACKAY " THANK YOU

That's not quite true though is it annis, the first game of the season away to west ham we were dire, at home to everton we did not have one shot on target, we were dire away to crystal palace, aston villa , norwich and stoke, our first half performance at home to newcastle was another sub standard effort, these were all before tan and malky fell out.

Forst game in Prem and yr having ago at Malky
What happened v Man City
Tan wanted top 10 a Fact.
By midd Oct Tan started on Malky a fact.
Before the Newcastle game Lim stormed in the dressing room and gave a message from Tan and embarrassed Malky infront of his players, ALL will eventually come out.

Can you post a link to these please?

This thread has now become hate Tan love Malky. Why always agendas?? The most plainer
of fact is that Cardiff City were going down with Mackay at manager. The only reason that
counts is the signings Mackay spent on this season and only really Caulker and Medel have
been a success. Mackay failed. Cardiff were never staying in this level by defendeing and
hoping to score on the break. Because there is more likelyhood of the opposing team scoring
first if you let them come at you all game. The Championship is different because there is not
the same quality that can hurt you from half-chances or break down determined defence. If
not for Marshall this season Cardiff City would be dead and gone already. Tan cannot be blamed
for that. He gave Mackay money and Mackay wasted it. The Tan in the dressing Room story is
also a nothing. All Mackay needed say was to ignore him as hes not coming in again. I believe
most Cardiff people i speak to wish Tan gone. But Cardiff are at the bottom of the league not
because of hime because of Mackcay

If Tan is blamed for signing off the acorn deal he must be blamed for signing off the Noone deal, Caulker deal etc.....

or do we credit Malky with good buys and blame Tan for the flops??

Managers sign players, if Malky had any deals vetoed this board would be in meltdown about Tan interfering. It seems Malky is immune from any form of criticism even when its a managers remit to sign players.

It's not past transfers.

It's the summer window when he had to turn out championship squad into a premiership squad. He wasted 35 million pound and didn't do it.

Steve Bruce spent much less and managed to do it.

You do not get promoted to the premier league and spend millions on a youngster from the Danish league and pay him 45k a week.

There's no point looking at who he signed in the championship it's a completely different kettle of fish. He prove he wasn't cut out for the premier league. He spent days ass licking Tom ince when it was plain to see too all of us he wasn't going to come here.

Do you really think Caulker, Medel and KTC were a waste of money?

Caulker and Medel are the only improvements to our squad. Is KTC really that good?

But they were the bulk of the £35 million you speak about.

If Tan is blamed for signing off the acorn deal he must be blamed for signing off the Noone deal, Caulker deal etc.....

or do we credit Malky with good buys and blame Tan for the flops??

Managers sign players, if Malky had any deals vetoed this board would be in meltdown about Tan interfering. It seems Malky is immune from any form of criticism even when its a managers remit to sign players.

Spot on. Lets blame Tan for all the bad signings and praise malky for the good signings, you couldn't write it

I think that it is a great pity that MM time at our club and the affect that he had is coming down to his dealings in the transfer market. However good or bad his transfer dealings he was no different to countless other managers, ask Alex Ferguson about Jaun Sebastian Veron, how many £m's were pissed to the wind on that player.

In my opinion you cannot look at MM transfer dealings solely asking the question "A good or bad" buy because he had to deal within the confines of the situation that existed at the club at the time. Remember the day he arrived we couldn't even field a team but in a very short period of time he put together a squad that managed to reach the Carling Cup Final and the playoffs that season. All that was done on probably less than £2m and was a truely remarkable achievement because he was having to deal at the lower end of the transfer market, bosman frees with the odd player costing a fee.

The following season he was given over £10m and that allowed him to shop at a different level and who can argue that having delivered not only promotion but the Football League Trophy that was a fantastic achievement.

Last summer following promotion he was given over £30m and with the exception of Cornelius have the players he signed been that bad. Well that's all down to opinion but as I have said plenty of other more experienced managers have pissed £m's to the wind on players who haven't delivered.

MM needed more time to develop his squad into a PL standard, many experts believe it takes at least 3 transfer windows to be able to do that, but he wasn't given that time, Why? because VT wants success today and thinks that he can just buy that.

He is wrong and with every day that goes by he is finding another way to prove just how little he understands about football and yesterday statement being the latest example of how to de-stabalise a football club.

Tomorrow we play at home in the 5th round of the FA Cup with a real chance of reaching the quarter final, how many times in our history have we reached that stage? In my opinion everyones focus should be on winning that game but thanks to VT that game is hardly getting a mention. After Saturday we are left fighting for our PL lives and this sort of publicity is that the last thing OGS and the team need.

For OGS to achieve safety this season he needs stability but sadly he has an owner who seems intent on rocking the boat, again again and again.

That's the issue here in my opinion and not how good or bad MM transfer dealing were.

Looking at Malkys signings for this season other than Odemwinge I'd say he was maybe tasked with buying that would retain or command a higher fee than we paid just in case of relegation. Caulker, Medel and Moore certainly fall into that bracket. Obviously Corneilius didn't work out but Brayford is the that confuses me. Never given a chance.

Malky Malkay became Cardiff City Manager in the 2011/12 season.

2011/12 Season Carling Cup Finalists drawing with Liverpool at Wembley 2-2 and losing on penalties.
2011/12 Season Play off Semi finalists losing to the eventual winners West Ham.

2012/13 Season Runaway Champions of the Championship, Our first Major Title since 1927 and first manager to take us up to the Premier League in 51 years even with all the politics going on behind the scenes regarding our Identity.

2013/14 Season Premier League, Never in a relegation place and things only started to go down hill when Malky's boss started publicly slating him and going in the dressing room and also telling our manager how to manage.


' MALKY MACKAY " THANK YOU

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Looking at Malkys signings for this season other than Odemwinge I'd say he was maybe tasked with buying that would retain or command a higher fee than we paid just in case of relegation. Caulker, Medel and Moore certainly fall into that bracket. Obviously Corneilius didn't work out but Brayford is the that confuses me. Never given a chance.

To a degree you might have a point but, nevertheless, if that is the case Malky and Moody got it badly wrong. What's your valuation of Gary Medel for example? I suspect it wont be 11 million! The list Carl did for whatever reason does not look good to me when you consider the overall amount spent on the players.
Its all very depressing at the moment concerning the actions and words from the owner to the fan base. Everyone's agenda is unclear and appears to be very negative. Awhile ago I posted a wishful thought for Vincent Tan to start again. Without a fresh start that also includes a return in some form to our old identity I can't see much hope for us. Apologies for being so miserable.

I think it's quite damning that after signing 32 players only 8 are regulars in the squad now.

That's what happens with progression, the majority of these were invaluable players to get us where we are today. He's not guna sign 20+ prem players in championship season's is he

If Tan is blamed for signing off the acorn deal he must be blamed for signing off the Noone deal, Caulker deal etc.....

or do we credit Malky with good buys and blame Tan for the flops??

Managers sign players, if Malky had any deals vetoed this board would be in meltdown about Tan interfering. It seems Malky is immune from any form of criticism even when its a managers remit to sign players.

Spot on. Lets blame Tan for all the bad signings and praise malky for the good signings, you couldn't write it

No it's the budget they release, not the players they choose. If the Dane was too expensive and went over budget I.e wanyama then the cheif exect. Can say no.

Malky Malkay became Cardiff City Manager in the 2011/12 season.

2011/12 Season Carling Cup Finalists drawing with Liverpool at Wembley 2-2 and losing on penalties.
2011/12 Season Play off Semi finalists losing to the eventual winners West Ham.

2012/13 Season Runaway Champions of the Championship, Our first Major Title since 1927 and first manager to take us up to the Premier League in 51 years even with all the politics going on behind the scenes regarding our Identity.

2013/14 Season Premier League, Never in a relegation place and things only started to go down hill when Malky's boss started publicly slating him and going in the dressing room and also telling our manager how to manage.


' MALKY MACKAY " THANK YOU

Spot on!

I think it's quite damning that after signing 32 players only 8 are regulars in the squad now.

Premier League is way way above the class of the Championship. It takes at least 2 seasons to build a Premier League Squad

Tell that to Swansea.

If Tan is blamed for signing off the acorn deal he must be blamed for signing off the Noone deal, Caulker deal etc.....

or do we credit Malky with good buys and blame Tan for the flops??

Managers sign players, if Malky had any deals vetoed this board would be in meltdown about Tan interfering. It seems Malky is immune from any form of criticism even when its a managers remit to sign players.

Spot on. Lets blame Tan for all the bad signings and praise malky for the good signings, you couldn't write it

No it's the budget they release, not the players they choose. If the Dane was too expensive and went over budget I.e wanyama then the cheif exect. Can say no.

No, it's the fact a cart horse was signed and Tan was led to believe that this was a good signing, and would repay the club back in the way of goals. Like Sam Hammann stated, Tan is not a football man and would of taken Malkys word that cornflop was a good signing, and as we now he was a total flop costing the club millions which could of been spent on a quality striker.

2011/12 Permanent Signings
Craig Conway – Good signing but not used properly by Malky
Don Cowie – average signing
Andrew Taylor – Good signing
Rob Earnshaw – Poor signing
Aron Gunnarsson – Good signing
Joe Mason – Good signing – not used properly by Malky
Kenny Miller – Average signing – We needed better
Rudy Gestede – Average signing
Ben Turner – Good signing
Elliott Parish - Pointless
Kadeem Harris – We don’t know ye

2011/12 Loan Signings
Filip Kiss – Good loan
Haris Vuckic – Poor Loan
Liam Lawrence – Average Loan


2012/13 Permanent Signings
Joe Lewis – average – decent back up
Filip Kiss – Poor signing – Not used by Malky - wasted
Jordon Mutch – Good signing
Etien Velikonja – Poor signing
Kim Bo-Kyung – Good signing
Heidar Helguson – Average signing
Craig Bellamy – Good signing
Matthew Connolly – Average signing
Tommy Smith – Poor signing
Craig Noone – Good signing – Not used properly by Malky
Nicky Maynard – Poor signing
Fraizer Campbell – Good signing
Simon Lappin – Bizarre signing

2012/13 Loan Signings
Kerim Frei – Poor signing – Hardly used
Simon Lappin – Average signing – needed as back up
Leon Barnett – Good signing


2013/14 Permanent Signings
Andreas Cornelius – Unbelievable, huge cock up
John Brayford – Poor signing
Simon Moore – Dont know
Steven Caulker – Good signing
Gary Medel – Good but over priced
Maximilliano Amondarain – don’t know - Does he exsist?
Kevin Theophile-Catherine – Poor signing
Peter Odemwingie – Poor signing.


Signing Summary
Poor 10
Average 8
Good 14
Good but not used properly 04
Bizzare 1
Pointless 1
Unbelievable – Huge cock up 1

All my opinion of course - Ive tried to judge them on where we were and what we needed at the time but its a very mixed lot of signing.

I think it's quite damning that after signing 32 players only 8 are regulars in the squad now.

dont forget when mm first came he could have had a 5 aside training game.thats all.also most on here were happy to be mid table.in fact some predicted relegation.so 6th and a losing cup final apperance were superb

93 season we won the 4th division Hmmmmm
Malky has been a success and a trip to Wembley was fantastic. We won the championship. But I did think he was to negative but In the main he was good for Cardiff.
if it is proved he was anyway imlicated in any wrong doing with transfers then my opinion will change.

93 season we won the 4th division Hmmmmm
Malky has been a success and a trip to Wembley was fantastic. We won the championship. But I did think he was to negative but In the main he was good for Cardiff.
if it is proved he was anyway imlicated in any wrong doing with transfers then my opinion will change.

correct chief.if he was on the make then take down the statues i doubt he will be though.the lma seem confident enough

93 season we won the 4th division Hmmmmm
Malky has been a success and a trip to Wembley was fantastic. We won the championship. But I did think he was to negative but In the main he was good for Cardiff.
if it is proved he was anyway imlicated in any wrong doing with transfers then my opinion will change.

Implicated? strange choice of words. SamHamman was implicated in almost killing the Cardiff City FC
and in frauding supporters. he now speaks as the mouthpiece for Vincent Tan being a wonderful man
which proves his two faces even against his friends but still gets free from attack. to put this way - If
Malky Mackay had made this speech...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23444289

Would this forum not have teared him to pieces? Am i right? I think.

malky was going to name himself as sub for the 2nd half of the season. he wanted to play in defence with the rest of the team

Looking at Malkys signings for this season other than Odemwinge I'd say he was maybe tasked with buying that would retain or command a higher fee than we paid just in case of relegation. Caulker, Medel and Moore certainly fall into that bracket. Obviously Corneilius didn't work out but Brayford is the that confuses me. Never given a chance.

To a degree you might have a point but, nevertheless, if that is the case Malky and Moody got it badly wrong. What's your valuation of Gary Medel for example? I suspect it wont be 11 million! The list Carl did for whatever reason does not look good to me when you consider the overall amount spent on the players.
Its all very depressing at the moment concerning the actions and words from the owner to the fan base. Everyone's agenda is unclear and appears to be very negative. Awhile ago I posted a wishful thought for Vincent Tan to start again. Without a fresh start that also includes a return in some form to our old identity I can't see much hope for us. Apologies for being so miserable.

I'm not sure Medel's value would have dropped too much. I'd say he's worth 8-10 million. Caulker however will a lot more than we paid for him. Totally agree on your points of negativity among us supporters. Our fight season back in the big time should have been a celebration not all this in fighting.

Malky Malkay became Cardiff City Manager in the 2011/12 season.

2011/12 Season Carling Cup Finalists drawing with Liverpool at Wembley 2-2 and losing on penalties.
2011/12 Season Play off Semi finalists losing to the eventual winners West Ham.

2012/13 Season Runaway Champions of the Championship, Our first Major Title since 1927 and first manager to take us up to the Premier League in 51 years even with all the politics going on behind the scenes regarding our Identity.

2013/14 Season Premier League, Never in a relegation place and things only started to go down hill when Malky's boss started publicly slating him and going in the dressing room and also telling our manager how to manage.


' MALKY MACKAY " THANK YOU

Spot on, he made mistakes, yes who hasn't but overall top manager and if he got the same backing that tan has given to OGS we would be mid table by now. And the double over the Swans

I don't understand why people list his signings made two years ago and mark them as a flop. Saw someone do it in another thread.

Of course the likes of Filip Kiss and Kenny Miller would be flops in the prem, but they weren't bought for the prem!

Year on year, the transfers Malky has made have served the club well. People were moaning about Mutch and Nooney both benched against the Jacks... Who signed them? Malky.

SPOT ON Alex

Malky said Jordan Mutch would end up being one of his best signings in time

Malky never gave up till he got Craig Noone



he got craig noone , then had him warming the bench.. too attack minded for malky

How much are they both worth today?

Malky Malkay became Cardiff City Manager in the 2011/12 season.

2011/12 Season Carling Cup Finalists drawing with Liverpool at Wembley 2-2 and losing on penalties.
2011/12 Season Play off Semi finalists losing to the eventual winners West Ham.

2012/13 Season Runaway Champions of the Championship, Our first Major Title since 1927 and first manager to take us up to the Premier League in 51 years even with all the politics going on behind the scenes regarding our Identity.

2013/14 Season Premier League, Never in a relegation place and things only started to go down hill when Malky's boss started publicly slating him and going in the dressing room and also telling our manager how to manage.


' MALKY MACKAY " THANK YOU

Spot on, he made mistakes, yes who hasn't but overall top manager and if he got the same backing that tan has given to OGS we would be mid table by now. And the double over the Swans

On what do you base that? Just as likely to have wasted a shed load of money.