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Re: Alan hansen on MOTD

Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:54 pm

The fact is that under Malky we weren't in the relegation zone. Under Solskjaer we have slipped into the relegation zone.

Would Malky have kept us up? Probably not, but maybe. Will Solskjaer keep us up? Probably not, but maybe. Do you see a theme here? It's down to the players really. If they don't deliver the performances we don't stand a chance.

Re: Alan hansen on MOTD

Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:47 pm

Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.

I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.

We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.


You mean after we were 3 nil down and Liverpool took foot off the gas.

Re: Alan hansen on MOTD

Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:54 pm

Neokutai wrote:
Willy-Wonka wrote: Solksjaer has been spending for fun and if we go down, it will be his fault.



Sorry, I struggled to take you seriously after you made that statement.



Me too!

Re: Alan hansen on MOTD

Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:34 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I still don't know how anyone think Malky would have taken us down. 7 of our 9 home games under Malky were against teams currently in the top 9 of the table and despite Tan's interference and disruption, he still kept us above the relegation zone. It's pretty obvious looking at our home games over the second half of the season, Malky would have got us enough results to keep us n the Premiership, without any shadow of the doubt.

Malky always made us very good at home and we beat Swansea and West Brom 1-0, the only 2 teams we played in the bottom half at home under Malky's reign. Malky deserved the chance to get us results against the rest of the bottom half teams we have left at home and I'm positive Malky would have got us enough results in these games to not only keep us in the Premiership, but finish the second half of the season stronger than the first half of the season to push us towards mid table.


No surprise you pop up again with the same nonsense.

I'm sure you can back up the fact Malky would have picked up enough points to keep us up? If not then stop going on like it is a fact he'd have gotten the points (much like the people who possess the opinion that Malky defiantly would have taken us down) because there is no way we'd know so acting as if you've seen the final table with Malky in charge then you're talking crap like usual.

Again, as I said to you in another thread (I know it is splitting hairs but you keep bringing it up) we lost to Newcastle at home, who were 11th at the time of beating us which is BOTTOM HALF.

Why did he deserve the chance to carry on for the rest of the season? We were constantly conceding goals, we weren't scoring, we were losing every away game and we'd spunked 35m on transfers and only 1 was performing consistently.

So it is okay to put in gutless performances away from home so long you beat them at home, right? Look at this;

West Ham
Aston Villa
Stoke
Norwich
Crystal Palace

How many did we win? 0 that's right 0 and we picked up two points. Guess how many we scored? 0 again. Yes we picked up a big fat two points but 2 points out of 15 is relegation form and it isn't acceptable.

So what on earth makes you think we'd beat these clubs at home when we couldn't muster enough chances away from home to even score ONCE?

Look I know you respect what Malky did for us in two years and you hate Tan so you'll stick by Malky but don't be blinded by 2 results. Whether or not we'd have stayed up with Malky is something no-one will know so there is no point debating it. But acting as if we can throw away points on the road just so we can beat them at home is stupid.

Re: Alan hansen on MOTD

Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:55 am

Willy-Wonka wrote:
citybluechris wrote:
Willy-Wonka wrote:You seem to have forgotten how up the players were for the game at Anfield. We were competitive and defensively ok in every single game.

I have never seen defending like that at Swansea.

We played well against Man City, that is it so far under Ole.


you mean alan Hansen seems to forgotten :laughing6: and yeah not all malkys games in prem was bad defensively but some was shocking and we conceded hell of a lot towards the end, I agree the Swansea game was shocking under ole, im more encouraged under ole on an attacking sense but the defense defo needs to tighten up


No, you seem to have forgotten.

We will never know if we would have stayed up under Mackay, so talking about it is pointless. As saying we 'definitely would have gone down' is just plain wrong.

The fact of the matter is, our best players were bought by Mackay.

Solksjaer has been spending for fun and if we go down, it will be his fault.

Tony Pulis has had less funds and the same time at Palace, look at them. Stop blaming Mackay for the failings of the current manager.

There is still time for ole, so all is not lost.


Not true our best player is our keeper who Dave Jones bought.

Re: Alan hansen on MOTD

Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:24 pm

llandaffbluebird1 wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I still don't know how anyone think Malky would have taken us down. 7 of our 9 home games under Malky were against teams currently in the top 9 of the table and despite Tan's interference and disruption, he still kept us above the relegation zone. It's pretty obvious looking at our home games over the second half of the season, Malky would have got us enough results to keep us n the Premiership, without any shadow of the doubt.

Malky always made us very good at home and we beat Swansea and West Brom 1-0, the only 2 teams we played in the bottom half at home under Malky's reign. Malky deserved the chance to get us results against the rest of the bottom half teams we have left at home and I'm positive Malky would have got us enough results in these games to not only keep us in the Premiership, but finish the second half of the season stronger than the first half of the season to push us towards mid table.


No surprise you pop up again with the same nonsense.

I'm sure you can back up the fact Malky would have picked up enough points to keep us up? If not then stop going on like it is a fact he'd have gotten the points (much like the people who possess the opinion that Malky defiantly would have taken us down) because there is no way we'd know so acting as if you've seen the final table with Malky in charge then you're talking crap like usual.

Again, as I said to you in another thread (I know it is splitting hairs but you keep bringing it up) we lost to Newcastle at home, who were 11th at the time of beating us which is BOTTOM HALF.

Why did he deserve the chance to carry on for the rest of the season? We were constantly conceding goals, we weren't scoring, we were losing every away game and we'd spunked 35m on transfers and only 1 was performing consistently.

So it is okay to put in gutless performances away from home so long you beat them at home, right? Look at this;

West Ham
Aston Villa
Stoke
Norwich
Crystal Palace

How many did we win? 0 that's right 0 and we picked up two points. Guess how many we scored? 0 again. Yes we picked up a big fat two points but 2 points out of 15 is relegation form and it isn't acceptable.

So what on earth makes you think we'd beat these clubs at home when we couldn't muster enough chances away from home to even score ONCE?

Look I know you respect what Malky did for us in two years and you hate Tan so you'll stick by Malky but don't be blinded by 2 results. Whether or not we'd have stayed up with Malky is something no-one will know so there is no point debating it. But acting as if we can throw away points on the road just so we can beat them at home is stupid.


Same nonsense? I think if you're honest, you will find it's hard to disagree with every point I have made. Every home game under Malky was against a team CURRENTLY in the top 9 (I know Newcastle were 11th at the time when we played them). Looking at the top half of the table, you will see there is a massive gap between 9th and 10th. It really does show the gap in quality and how tough our home games were under Malky.

What gives you the right to think we can beat teams with style in this division? Why do you think we should score more goals and pick up more points away from home? I'm not saying it's acceptable for us to throw away points away from home, some of our away performances weren't acceptable under Malky, but this is our first season in the Premiership! I think fans like yourself need a reality check, Villa's away record of winning 4, drawing 4 and losing 4 before playing us is exceptional for a Premiership team outside the top 6. The way you're talking you expect us to be able to achieve a similar record away from home in our first Premiership season!

Teams consistantly in the bottom half of the Premiership survive because they pick up wins at home against teams in their mini league. These teams are in the bottom half because the standard of the Premiership means it's awfully difficult to pick up decent results away from home. At home, Malky was delivering the results required. Highlight all our poor away performances as much as you want, but despite this and despite the fact 7 of the 9 teams we played at home under Malky are CURRENTLY in the top 9 of the table, Malky still managed to keep us above the relegation zone, despite Tan's constant interference and disruption. This was a remarkable achievement by Malky and considering apart from Liverpool and Chelsea, every team we had left to play at home would be in 10th place or lower, you have to say it's very probably Malky would have got us enough results to keep us in the Premiership next season.

Re: Alan hansen on MOTD

Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:09 pm

alan hanson is hoping we keep improving, to shut savage up..we all know savage hates us, due to all the shit he took off us when he played for derby