History to be made tomorrow ?

Can't see anywhere where I'm hero-worshipping anyone. Surely you're not saying that Carroll is innocent?

Surely you can't be saying that Flores did nothing wrong?

I have never said that Flores did nothing wrong. But with the typical myopic Cardiff outlook, no-one on here appears prepared to condemn Carroll, despite him being sent off and losing two appeals. Do you honestly think that Carroll would not have been sent off for what he did? The reaction is irrelevant.

Where did I say that you did, it was a question. You're normally banging on about grammar, I'd thought you'd know what a question mark is.

I don't think it was a red, along with a number of pundits.

.....and I'd have thought you would know not to answer a question with a question! Like the "number of pundits" you refer to, you are wrong!

Irrespective of whether it was a sending off or not. Chico's reaction was pathetic. Shame's the game we all love. Mutch went down easily in front of us at palace (nothing like this - he was barged and should have stood up) and I ripped into him shouting at him to get up. Fortunately it doesn't happen often with our lot.

Jack or no jack, that reaction from Chico was probably the most disgraceful play acting I've ever seen from a centre half.

Bad enough when a player goes down easily trying to get a penalty, but something else when it's an attempt to get an opponent sent off.

Do you agree ?

So are you now trying to say that there are different levels of cheating? Surely cheating is cheating wherever it happens and whatever the result? Cheating is an endemic part of modern day football whether you like it or not. In this money-fuelled environment you are naive in the extreme if you don't think that cheating occurs in EVERY match by EVERY team, whether it's blatant (as was Chico's) or whether it's defenders wrestling in the box with forwards. I would agree that utopia would be for all cheating to be dealt with, but I'm realistic enough to know it is not going to happen.

Yes of course there are different levels of cheating.

Do you think bringing a playuer down when he's in on goal is on a level with rolling around like you've been smashed with a baseball bat when you've just had your bun touched ?

Bollox.

He's a disgrace and if he played for anyone else you would realise that too.

It's not like it's even the first time.

If you read my posts, I have not defended Chico in any of them. But you're talking crap. Cheating is cheating. The point of it that someone is trying to gain an advantage through unfair means. Therefore, how can there be different levels? You're either cheating or you're not! You seem to conveniently forget that a Carroll lashed out in the first place. That's what he was sent off for, or do you honestly believe that a World Cup final referee, an FA panel and an independent panel actually thought Chico was injured. The red card was as a result of Carroll's actions, not Chico's, and if you believe anything different then you're either very naive or very stupid

It's really simple.

Of course there are different levels of cheating. That's why you have free kicks, then bookings for more serious stuff, then you have sendings off for worse.

Far worse than any of these is play acting in an attempt to get a player sent off.

Just like Chico.

I don't care about Carrolls sending off, it's good news for us. However I think players who feign injury in order to try to fascilitate players getting sent off ruin football.

He doesn't play for us which is just as well and if you are happy with him then that's your problem. You still haven't condemned him or what he did, or when he's done it before.

What an absolutely ridiculous post. So now you're arguing that a mistimed tackle, a late tackle or violent conduct is cheating?
Foul play is not cheating! Is it only players who feign injury who are ruining the game? What about players, like Mutch, who go down in the box under the slightest of contact? Or time wasters? Or wrestling forwards in the box? Why don't any of those incur your wrath? Carroll was not sent off as a result of Chic'o's actions, he was sent off as a result of his own actions. If Chico had feigned injury WITHOUT Carroll swinging at him, I would be the first to strongly condemn it. However, in this instance his actions were not relevant to the sending off. Carroll would still have gone. Chico just made himself look stupid

Can't see anywhere where I'm hero-worshipping anyone. Surely you're not saying that Carroll is innocent?

Surely you can't be saying that Flores did nothing wrong?

I have never said that Flores did nothing wrong. But with the typical myopic Cardiff outlook, no-one on here appears prepared to condemn Carroll, despite him being sent off and losing two appeals. Do you honestly think that Carroll would not have been sent off for what he did? The reaction is irrelevant.

Now THAT is myopic thinking, fella!

Yellow card at most without the theatrics