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Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:03 am

Green Arrow wrote:
bluearmy1990 wrote:
What by saying i know nothing about boxing? yeah my nerves are shot ere :lol: you need to to dig deeper than that JB look at me look at me, What's wrong you don't get any attention at home or what? :lol: oddball


I don't live at home mate. Some of us move out and grow up. Try it some time momma's boy. :lol:


neither do i, I live in chester on weekdays so try again oddball!

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:30 am

bluearmy1990 wrote:neither do i, I live in chester on weekdays so try again oddball!


That explains the lack of brains then.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:35 am

Green Arrow wrote:
bluearmy1990 wrote:neither do i, I live in chester on weekdays so try again oddball!


That explains the lack of brains then.


dont really need brains for what i do but then again you probably wouldnt last a day in my job

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:36 am

bluearmy1990 wrote:dont really need brains for what i do but then again you probably wouldnt last a day in my job


Just your luck then really. :lol:

What makes your job so special then?

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:35 am

Barnett I'd be willing to guess that you have never amateur boxed in your life? Which gym do you use?

If you go by numbers the UK, has done amazing my to get 6 belts on offer if the state's only have 20. They have resources and population that should swamp us.

British boxing is absolutely unrivalled. I've watched a few fights at Atlantic city the gardens and a couple Vegas. All had empty seats apart from Hatton v money. And I mean a lot of empty seats. The fighters weren't great an came nowhere near to as good as fights I've seen at men,copperbox and o2 in the UK.

If people want to listen to Eddie Hearn that's there problem, he's very good for his stable but is a boxing version of tesco in my eyes. But top rank talk just as much crap but with a US accent.

We h some cracking fighters in my eyes, cleverly if he has heart will win a world title again he needs to box differently but has great skill, he had a bad loss but so have many before him. Manny took a great defeat and came back strong to fly the divs. Haye took a bad defeat and unified the div. We have possibly 2 unrivalled for potential in Joshua and Luke Campbell both although untested look stars.

We also have who I think is a very top fighter in Frampton. Will beat which if the fight happened today. Has great coach in Shane and a great following in Belfast.

Now burns shouldn't be a world champ, but we can argue Manny won just as easy against Bradley.

Nobody knows how groves was, I think he was hurt but able to go on, froch looked knackered aswell, froch is just out telling any sky channel who will listen his jackannory.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:35 pm

np20 wrote:Barnett I'd be willing to guess that you have never amateur boxed in your life? Which gym do you use?


I've used gyms in both Cardiff and West Wales. Guess all you like.

If you go by numbers the UK, has done amazing my to get 6 belts on offer if the state's only have 20. They have resources and population that should swamp us.


I've already destroyed this argument. Population is a myth. What about Cuba who have 1/5th of our population? The population argument is a myth. China is a boxing nation (1920's adopted) but just not very good at it hence 1 belt out of all the available belts yet a very large population. Whats your argument there?

British boxing is absolutely unrivalled. I've watched a few fights at Atlantic city the gardens and a couple Vegas. All had empty seats apart from Hatton v money. And I mean a lot of empty seats. The fighters weren't great an came nowhere near to as good as fights I've seen at men,copperbox and o2 in the UK.


Laughable. British boxing is a joke. The belts distribution doesn't lie. The vast majority of highly respected belts don't like with British fighters.

We h some cracking fighters in my eyes, cleverly if he has heart will win a world title again he needs to box differently but has great skill, he had a bad loss but so have many before him. Manny took a great defeat and came back strong to fly the divs. Haye took a bad defeat and unified the div. We have possibly 2 unrivalled for potential in Joshua and Luke Campbell both although untested look stars.

We also have who I think is a very top fighter in Frampton. Will beat which if the fight happened today. Has great coach in Shane and a great following in Belfast.


Cant believe you've just said that. None of these have been tested at top level. Like I said, a B rate nation putting out B rate fighters. Its all there for anyone to see.

Nobody knows how groves was, I think he was hurt but able to go on, froch looked knackered aswell, froch is just out telling any sky channel who will listen his jackannory.

Froch gets stronger as fights go on. Everyone in boxing knows this. Come on.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:53 pm

Green Arrow wrote:
np20 wrote:Barnett I'd be willing to guess that you have never amateur boxed in your life? Which gym do you use?


I've used gyms in both Cardiff and West Wales. Guess all you like.

If you go by numbers the UK, has done amazing my to get 6 belts on offer if the state's only have 20. They have resources and population that should swamp us.


I've already destroyed this argument. Population is a myth. What about Cuba who have 1/5th of our population? The population argument is a myth. China is a boxing nation (1920's adopted) but just not very good at it hence 1 belt out of all the available belts yet a very large population. Whats your argument there?

British boxing is absolutely unrivalled. I've watched a few fights at Atlantic city the gardens and a couple Vegas. All had empty seats apart from Hatton v money. And I mean a lot of empty seats. The fighters weren't great an came nowhere near to as good as fights I've seen at men,copperbox and o2 in the UK.


Laughable. British boxing is a joke. The belts distribution doesn't lie. The vast majority of highly respected belts don't like with British fighters.

We h some cracking fighters in my eyes, cleverly if he has heart will win a world title again he needs to box differently but has great skill, he had a bad loss but so have many before him. Manny took a great defeat and came back strong to fly the divs. Haye took a bad defeat and unified the div. We have possibly 2 unrivalled for potential in Joshua and Luke Campbell both although untested look stars.

We also have who I think is a very top fighter in Frampton. Will beat which if the fight happened today. Has great coach in Shane and a great following in Belfast.


Cant believe you've just said that. None of these have been tested at top level. Like I said, a B rate nation putting out B rate fighters. Its all there for anyone to see.

Nobody knows how groves was, I think he was hurt but able to go on, froch looked knackered aswell, froch is just out telling any sky channel who will listen his jackannory.

Froch gets stronger as fights go on. Everyone in boxing knows this. Come on.


Its Cubas national sport, 20% of all athletes in cuba box! Those numbers are unrivalled! and still when they defect they havent really made it that big. Boxing is roughly around the same in popularity in both countries UK/US when you play the %s. We have football, rugby, rugby league,golf, boxing. They have football (american) hockey, basketball, baseball, golf, boxing.

Froch might come on stronger later on normally, but hes aged, and was knocked down, nobody knows how you react to each knock down, especially after groves then ran him for the rounds after it.

Frampton absolutely dominated Kiko who has since somehow taken a world belt. Frampton made him look a 5 fight schoolboy. like i said, campbell/joshua are untested but look superb, im looking forward to seeing joshua again on 15th feb, also will be my first live showing of Fury, who i think will have a very entertaining career, and will be a world champ.

British boxing is far from a joke. Home advantage counts for alot, and sadly due to the money the american promoters and now German promoters can offer due to PPV the british fighters have to give that up since Hearn has Sky tied up, and refuses to bid big purses for his fighters on the way up against overseas fighters, Froch is the exception and thats only since some how finishing runner up in the showtime super 6.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:57 pm

Talking of home advantage that draw decision Ricky Burns got in his last fight denying the guy a world title was an absolute disgrace. Disgusting.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:43 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Talking of home advantage that draw decision Ricky Burns got in his last fight denying the guy a world title was an absolute disgrace. Disgusting.


Exactly. Same home advantage that Bradley had when he beat Manny. Read that the wbo had 5 people watch it back who all scored it to Manny. One scored it 118-110.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:46 pm

Green Arrow wrote:
np20 wrote:Barnett I'd be willing to guess that you have never amateur boxed in your life? Which gym do you use?


I've used gyms in both Cardiff and West Wales. Guess all you like.

If you go by numbers the UK, has done amazing my to get 6 belts on offer if the state's only have 20. They have resources and population that should swamp us.


I've already destroyed this argument. Population is a myth. What about Cuba who have 1/5th of our population? The population argument is a myth. China is a boxing nation (1920's adopted) but just not very good at it hence 1 belt out of all the available belts yet a very large population. Whats your argument there?

British boxing is absolutely unrivalled. I've watched a few fights at Atlantic city the gardens and a couple Vegas. All had empty seats apart from Hatton v money. And I mean a lot of empty seats. The fighters weren't great an came nowhere near to as good as fights I've seen at men,copperbox and o2 in the UK.


Laughable. British boxing is a joke. The belts distribution doesn't lie. The vast majority of highly respected belts don't like with British fighters.

We h some cracking fighters in my eyes, cleverly if he has heart will win a world title again he needs to box differently but has great skill, he had a bad loss but so have many before him. Manny took a great defeat and came back strong to fly the divs. Haye took a bad defeat and unified the div. We have possibly 2 unrivalled for potential in Joshua and Luke Campbell both although untested look stars.

We also have who I think is a very top fighter in Frampton. Will beat which if the fight happened today. Has great coach in Shane and a great following in Belfast.


Cant believe you've just said that. None of these have been tested at top level. Like I said, a B rate nation putting out B rate fighters. Its all there for anyone to see.

Nobody knows how groves was, I think he was hurt but able to go on, froch looked knackered aswell, froch is just out telling any sky channel who will listen his jackannory.

Froch gets stronger as fights go on. Everyone in boxing knows this. Come on.

:lol: :lol:
The time you said you were a scout was more believable then this.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:55 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Talking of home advantage that draw decision Ricky Burns got in his last fight denying the guy a world title was an absolute disgrace. Disgusting.


Half of them on here aint got a clue. I've been posting quotes from here on the boxing forums to give them a laugh. Some of the best comedy I've seen since I last watch Only Fools. Froch is the best British boxer yet these nationalist fools all love the Rees and Cleverly and before that the Enzo and Calzaghe hype. Makes me laugh. Let them keep paying into Hearn's and Warren's pockets if you want as I'm not bothered either way. As already pointed out, the population argument is a myth and the belt distribution doesn't lie.

Polo don't bother listening to these - the only other posters I've come across clued up on boxing on here are citybluechris and the jacks - of course they're bound to know about boxing as they have to do it to fight in the dole queue.

:lol:

Bluebird86 wrote::lol: :lol:
The time you said you were a scout was more believable then this.


This forum is full of Rees and Cleverly worshippers. Its cringeworthy. All of them overrated as well. Save the nationalist rubbish for people who care. The best British boxers are English and Froch is the best in the country at the moment.

B rate British boxing for B rate fans. You lot can keep paying to watch Fury and Audley on Boxnation but ill stick to watching Andre Ward, Floyd and Garcia on HBO/Showtime.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:02 pm

Green Arrow wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Talking of home advantage that draw decision Ricky Burns got in his last fight denying the guy a world title was an absolute disgrace. Disgusting.


Half of them on here aint got a clue. I've been posting quotes from here on the boxing forums to give them a laugh. Some of the best comedy I've seen since I last watch Only Fools. Froch is the best British boxer yet these nationalist fools all love the Rees and Cleverly and before that the Enzo and Calzaghe hype. Makes me laugh. Let them keep paying into Hearn's and Warren's pockets if you want as I'm not bothered either way. As already pointed out, the population argument is a myth and the belt distribution doesn't lie.

Polo don't bother listening to these - the only other posters I've come across clued up on boxing on here are citybluechris and the jacks - of course they're bound to know about boxing as they have to do it to fight in the dole queue.

:lol:

Just an armchair fan who has no idea. Been to as many fights as you have city games. 0
Bluebird86 wrote::lol: :lol:
The time you said you were a scout was more believable then this.


This forum is full of Rees and Cleverly worshippers. Its cringeworthy. All of them overrated as well. Save the nationalist rubbish for people who care. The best British boxers are English and Froch is the best in the country at the moment.

B rate British boxing for B rate fans. You lot can keep paying to watch Fury and Audley on Boxnation but ill stick to watching Andre Ward, Floyd and Garcia on HBO/Showtime.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:04 pm

You're from Newport for crying out loud. Also, learn to quote properly. As for armchair fan mate, I box myself. :lol:

I've been to numerous fights over the years just as i've been to numerous Cardiff games. :wave: :ayatollah: :lol:

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:30 pm

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So i've proved Norris wrong on boxing and now you on the fact that i don't go to football matches or boxing. Actually I often used to go to Cardiff games, Rugby games, boxing events (have been to a couple elsewhere to) and the ice hockey to watch the Devils.

I must be the best armchair fan in the world honestly. How are County getting on these days? Or wait, what about your rugby team? I highly suspect you've never watched either of them pal. :lol:


Look at the words complimentary, club guest, leckwith suite etc. --- I could and still can get tickets with ease because life is a lot of about who you know and not what you know. I am fortunate enough to know quite a lot of people at the club hence the big fat £0.00 entry fees I have to pay to enter the ground. Its the travelling back and for from Aber that kills me in costs and why i couldn't afford to go to many games when in uni.

I haven't been since Scarfgate and won't go until we're either blue or Tan has left. Simple as that really. I've turned down plenty of tickets, complimentary, and let someone who wants them and wants to enjoy a red Cardiff City have them.

And they're just the tickets i've got on me. The rest are in Bulgaria as unlike you I've been to games all across Europe. :lol:

I'll even show you one of my season ticket cards if you like. Its not my most appealing photo on it but if it helps prove you wrong then I'm game.

Ciao for now! :wave:

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:34 pm

Green Arrow wrote:You're from Newport for crying out loud. Also, learn to quote properly. As for armchair fan mate, I box myself. :lol:

I've been to numerous fights over the years just as i've been to numerous Cardiff games. :wave: :ayatollah: :lol:


Says the guy from Aberystwyth :laughing5: (a town full of wrong uns) if i want to support welsh boxers thats up to me, Ive never claimed to be the biggest boxing fan, Ill admit im a casual fan watch most domestic fights and an international fight now and again, I haven't got the time that you have to sit on boxing forums and boxrec all day, Theres a whole other life off the computer you should try living it one day :thumbup:

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:38 pm

Be an interesting one this. Think GG will have a bit more self belief going into this and CF slightly more apprehensive, which in turn will bring the best out of Froch. GG knows not to stand and trade with Froch now, so he'll possibly be on the outside more this time, which will suit him better.

Hopefully all the controversy of the last stoppage doesn't impinge on the the referees judgement, as the most important thing to boxing fans is the two warriors safety and well being. If it needs to be stopped then so be it.

As for the debate about lack of talent in the UK I disagree. Expecting big futures from Paul Butler, Callum Smith, Frampton and I think Tyson Fury could potentially be a force once Vlad retires but jury is still out on that one.

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:49 pm

bluearmy1990 wrote:
Green Arrow wrote:You're from Newport for crying out loud. Also, learn to quote properly. As for armchair fan mate, I box myself. :lol:

I've been to numerous fights over the years just as i've been to numerous Cardiff games. :wave: :ayatollah: :lol:


Says the guy from Aberystwyth :laughing5: (a town full of wrong uns) if i want to support welsh boxers thats up to me, Ive never claimed to be the biggest boxing fan, Ill admit im a casual fan watch most domestic fights and an international fight now and again, I haven't got the time that you have to sit on boxing forums and boxrec all day, Theres a whole other life off the computer you should try living it one day :thumbup:


I just partake in the sport and watch it actively. I pulled you up on your bullshit because you belittled another poster or tried to tell them knew nothing when in fact you don't either. Aber is a town full of wrong uns yet has one of the lowest crime rates going.

You really are a special breed. :lol:

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:06 pm

Green Arrow wrote:
bluearmy1990 wrote:
Green Arrow wrote:You're from Newport for crying out loud. Also, learn to quote properly. As for armchair fan mate, I box myself. :lol:

I've been to numerous fights over the years just as i've been to numerous Cardiff games. :wave: :ayatollah: :lol:


Says the guy from Aberystwyth :laughing5: (a town full of wrong uns) if i want to support welsh boxers thats up to me, Ive never claimed to be the biggest boxing fan, Ill admit im a casual fan watch most domestic fights and an international fight now and again, I haven't got the time that you have to sit on boxing forums and boxrec all day, Theres a whole other life off the computer you should try living it one day :thumbup:


I just partake in the sport and watch it actively. I pulled you up on your bullshit because you belittled another poster or tried to tell them knew nothing when in fact you don't either. Aber is a town full of wrong uns yet has one of the lowest crime rates going.

You really are a special breed. :lol:


I box aswel in the army before that i was at cwmgors abc, Where do you train? Ok a town full of six fingered mutants nothing good about Aberystwyth no soul or character there so i wouldn't mock other towns if i was you

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:12 pm

bluearmy1990 wrote:I box aswel in the army before that i was at cwmgors abc, Where do you train? Ok a town full of six fingered mutants nothing good about Aberystwyth no soul or character there so i wouldn't mock other towns if i was you


I've trained in both Cardiff and West Wales. Not in Aber by the way.

Aberystwyth? No soul? Aberystwyth has the highest people to pubs ratio anywhere in the UK with plenty on offer. Another idiotic statement by yourself. Just as well it does have loads of pubs on offer because with plonkers like yourself about then people like myself need a drink to cope.

:lol:

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:42 pm

Green Arrow wrote:
bluearmy1990 wrote:I box aswel in the army before that i was at cwmgors abc, Where do you train? Ok a town full of six fingered mutants nothing good about Aberystwyth no soul or character there so i wouldn't mock other towns if i was you


I've trained in both Cardiff and West Wales. Not in Aber by the way.

Aberystwyth? No soul? Aberystwyth has the highest people to pubs ratio anywhere in the UK with plenty on offer. Another idiotic statement by yourself. Just as well it does have loads of pubs on offer because with plonkers like yourself about then people like myself need a drink to cope.

:lol:


Pubs don't equal soul. Far from it in fact!

With your last msg ive never been a Newport fan in football or rugby, a blues fan along with city. Played for city through all the age groups up to and Inc reserves whilst a yts.

And you criticise on here about people boxing knowledge, but I'm sure you were riding the broner hype very hard!

First time he's tested he was matched well by paulie who has never had power and lost fairly to maidana. Another hyped American?

Re: George Groves

Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:51 pm

np20 wrote:Pubs don't equal soul. Far from it in fact!


Plenty of atmosphere down here though. Student town and very active and vibrant.

With your last msg ive never been a Newport fan in football or rugby, a blues fan along with city. Played for city through all the age groups up to and Inc reserves whilst a yts.


Fair enough. Just stating I aint no armchair fan.

And you criticise on here about people boxing knowledge, but I'm sure you were riding the broner hype very hard!

First time he's tested he was matched well by paulie who has never had power and lost fairly to maidana. Another hyped American?


Name a British boxer at Broner's weight who could beat him. I have one in mind.

Broner is hype but still a good boxer and you cant say he isn't. He was never going to be a Floyd as he was hyped up. Fact of the matter is Broner isn't America's top level in and around that weight yet he stepped up to fight Maidana who is a good boxer. At least he's going against the best. The best Brit currently in that division, Ricky Burns, is too scared to take a trip across the pond. Broner's done more in his career in less fights than Burns has and he has better names on his record.

I was also right when I said Broner would beat Rees. He's much better.

My top 5 fighters currently are: Floyd, Garcia, Ward, Golovkin and Lomachenko. :ayatollah:

What about yours?